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Wada surprised at Versus XIII 360 reaction

Scrawl: "Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada has responded to the reactions of Final Fantasy Versus XIII possibly coming to Xbox 360. Apparently, he’s surprised."

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Strange_Evil5183d ago

Waiting for M$es check to clear are we?

Lucreto5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

Or he looked out the window and saw a angry mob with pitchforks and torches or as it is Japan samurai swords would be a better choice.

thereapersson5183d ago

We will see FFXIII become a multiplatform game at E3, enabling Microsoft to once again parade around the mainstage about a game that is still multiplatform, yet will be pushed as an exclusive by Microsoft.

As much as I want Versus to stay exclusive -- because we have yet to see what exclusivity can do for a FF game this generation -- I have a sinking feeling that Wada will push for multiplatform status on this one as well.

We shall see what happens in the coming weeks ahead, eh?

cayal5183d ago

Nomura might be leading the mob of samurai sword wielding Versus-stay-on-PS3 mob

Noctis Aftermath5183d ago

He's suprised? has this clown been living under a rock this generation?

*facepalm*

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Anon19745183d ago

It doesn't matter what console it's on. I think it just makes sense for developers to take their games multiplat.

My concern is that the 360's aged hardware would hold back development on the PS3. For some unknown reason, developers always try to keep their games exactly the same across platforms. Why? When the PS2 and Xbox were going head to head, everyone knew the Xbox was a more capable machine and no one had any issues using the Xbox's power to make better looking games. Yet this gen many seem afraid to play to the strengths of the PS3 when it comes to multiplatform releases.

I don't get that. We know what the PS3 is capable of because we've seen it over and over again through it's excellent exclusives. Make the best damn game on whatever platform you're working on and parity be damned.

Ludakriss5182d ago

Hey man..."virtual handshake to ya" I've been puzzling over the same thought for years. I have yet to hear a single answer from directors, devs about the matter. Strange.

UltraNova5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

No wonder Japanese video game development is in a course to extinction.. They forgot their own and em-brassed foreigners, the dollar mostly.. Its a shame Japanese culture is all but alive.

@ 1.1.6 and 1.17

The answer is pretty much in your face. MS is smart. The took advantage of the head start they got which made developers invest on the 360.

Then when they got them by the balls they told them 'If you dare making a multi platform game superior on the ps3 we will scrap the 360 version' and to keep them happy they greased the hell out off them.

What would you do if you were a developer back in 2006-07?

Sony, to their own loss, never did this with the ps2 and the ps3.

But why doesnt Sony force them not to release a game that is inferior on their console I hear u say? (especially heavy hitters like RedDR) It beats me!

Dont get me wrong I give MS the thump up, they have balls and they used them sort'speak, in the end it paid off.

deafwing5182d ago

I didn't think anyone else noticed that one ...
but ya, I'll never forget Onimusha on XBOX and MS's campaign on how much better it was ... Sony, devs, etc could do the same but it's all a little odd.

yet, dev houses, producers, etc know what they are doing .. they'll gimp games (on whichever platform) and keep them the same (more or less) to keep gamers in the current install base happy... if one game was so drastically better (in this case the ps3) visually/gameplay wise they would be missing out on the XBox Market (or vice versa); so they'll do this for sometime.

SkyGamer5182d ago

Not to diss on darkride as most of your comments are levelheaded. But exactly how the X360 aged hardware when the ps3 has an even more aged graphics card? The best thing in the ps3 is the 256 MB of XDR RAM. The speed on it is impressive. rsx is not and to put all fanboy issue aside, you know that too. I know that if Versus went multiplatform it would sting, heck think about the comments sony fanboys made when Bungie expressed wishes to develop for ALL platforms. Although it didn't affect X360 it still stung and that was worse because they WERE owned by MS and First Party. Difference is that SE is Third Party. So yeah it does sting but life goes on.

The amount of support for MS this gen is startling. Never would have thought it in a million years. Especially since they bought Eidos, a PC dev and publisher, yeah, things are going to get intersting very soon . . .

IdleLeeSiuLung5182d ago

Nothing startling about it. Profits speaks the loudest and you would be a fool to ignore the PS3/Xbox 360 right now.

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LordMarius5183d ago

Maybe he saw Nomura's reaction

HolyOrangeCows5183d ago

Better start stockpiling discs, SE....

Denethor_II5182d ago

No need. They'll just compress and cut, compress and cut.

97gsx5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

Microsoft has the money. The problem is that the 360 might not be able to handle the world map and backtracking. He is waiting for the devs to give him the ok. Which hopefully they wont.

tigerstyle5183d ago

what makes you say that? Just asking, where did you get the facts?

Im not a fan of Final Fantasy anyways. But hopefully this baby stays on ps3 :3

FOXDIE5182d ago

he is talking about changing discs etc when moving from different areas on the map!

Disccordia5182d ago

...and Nomura said a few months back they might not make e3 due to changes to the way the world map worked.. It seemed to suggest they were making a more linear game, presumably to cater for the 360 for the reason Caso above stated.

MadMan005182d ago

Is this a joke? 360 can't handle it? PS3 is only better by graphics a bit and they don't need to use multiple discs, it has NOTHING to do with them watering it down.

Lost Odyssey had no problem with Back Tracking and the world was huge.

Trust me they will, you have no idea how either system works, you're a freaking idiot.

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Anarki5183d ago

I don't want 360 to gimp Versus ¬___________________¬ ;

Mc Fadge5183d ago

From what we've heard from developers, nothing suggests the PS3 will 'gimp' anything. We know that, on either console, exclusive development produces better results. When an exclusive PS3 game is being developed, then down the line becomes multiplatform, it is not going to be as good as it originally was. The same thing would have happened with the 360.

CimmerianDrake5182d ago

Let me get this straight, the PS3 is the reason SE REMOVED towns, NPC's, sidequests, basically a WHOLE game from FFXIII? You're saying the PS3, with it's immense capabilities for scale and visuals, is the reason FFXIII suffered major content cuts?

*sigh* delusional fanboys.

Game13a13y5183d ago

does anyone still give a crap about Square-enix after the FF13 incident? us PS3 fans should just abandon them.

Christopher5183d ago

Because nothing will convince SE to 'do the right thing' for their PS3 fans than not buying their products.

RBdrift5183d ago

The only reason I have a bit of faith in FF Versus is only because of Nomura.

Legosz5183d ago

I agree, any PS3 fanboy who thinks Versus will be a great game because is exclusive is blind as a fucking bat. This game is going to suck as much as FFXIII did. As a PS3 and 360 owner, I wouldn't buy into this even if it was exclusive.

Christopher5183d ago

I think people let their emotions get to them a bit too much on this site.

Not buying FF games if they go onto the 360 console only leads to less sold on the PS3, which then leads to them being further encouraged to stay on the 360 platform.

You want them to listen to why they shouldn't forget the PS3? Then be coherent, sensible, and even-headed and approach the situation as a community that speaks to SE with a determination and desire to be seen for the fans you are and the desire to be treated as such.

Game13a13y5183d ago

if they care about us PS3 fans, they wouldn't release it on the 360. and its not like they are doing it out of good cause, they just want $$$. if they are treating us like crap, then why should we support them?

FOXDIE5182d ago

SE has not produced one single AAA title this generation!

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Tony P5183d ago

I'm surprised he was listening.

I don't care where it goes. Just make it good and interesting.

Sm0k3y_Bac0n5183d ago

Yh, as long as it's a good game who cares how many platforms it's on

sikbeta5183d ago

Don't Push Harder Wada, You do it, you lost Nomura and that's the Beginning of The End for your Company, your "westernization dream" didn't work, the release of FF13 as a Multiplat game didn't get you more money, FF Supporters starting to lose Faith in the FF Series and that's Only Your Fault, better FOCUS on PUSH The Boundaries with the Next FF Game, cos IF not, say goodbye to the Money you want so bad...

Anarki5183d ago

Kinda makes me not want a FF7 remake... 'cause they'll probably fuck up on that too...........

It's sad, this company was once my favourite developer...

darthawesome905183d ago

I have lost all faith in SquareEnix in the past ten years too.

I say let whoever made FF:Crisis Core take over the production of FF and add a more traditional FF battle system and exploration. That's the only Final Fantasy title that has been any good in the past ten years!

jwatt5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

As much as I don't want it to, this pretty much shows that they're really considering making it multiplatform.

360RRODFIX5183d ago

People care about FF games? Are we in mid 90s early 2000? No!? Ok then who cares! FFX was last good FF. 360 can have Versus, FF14, etc WHO CARES!

HQLocated1115183d ago

I don't really care anymore, JRPGs are becoming extremely repetitive and boring (except for Demon's Souls of course).

Parapraxis5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

This really shows how out of touch the guy is.

Why would people react badly?
No it's not because they are angry 360 owners will get to play it, not in the least.

I personally worry that if the game went multiplat it's content would be cut back (like FFXIII's game-worth of content) and it would be delayed by a year (like FF XIII was so that they were released on the same day in NA)

If they do decide to go multiplat I don't want to hear of ANY cuts to content or any version is held back in order to complete the other.
It's a shame S-E had to reduce their overall vision to accommodate http://www.joystiq.com/2010... disc swapping.

topdawg1225183d ago

It will happen for sure, but honestly my hype died for this game a long time ago.... Square Enix sucks now.

ZombieNinjaPanda5183d ago

I've no idea why he's surprised, he doesn't remember the initial reaction of FFXIII going multiplat?

Also a reaction such of this came about because Versus XIII was promised to be an exclusive. Whenever something like that is promised and developers go back on their words they should expect a large negative reaction.

lelo2play5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

@ "Waiting for M$es check to clear are we?"

After the sales that FF13 had on the X360... even with a gimped version of the game, and having less sales then the PS3 version, but still sold pretty well. They would be pretty stupid not to port FF13 Versus to the X360. Microsoft does not have to pay for the game. The sales justify a port of the game to the X360, even if they have lesser sales then the PS3 version.

I said a few months back that i would not be surprised if Versus come out on the X360. Unless there is a big check involved, nobody should expect 3rd party exclusives. Is Sony willing to pay a big check to Square for exclusivity???

EDIT... I think the same thing will happen with Rockstar's Agent. Unless Sony made some kind of deal or paid a big check, Agent will probably be a time exclusive for the PS3, and be released later on the X360/PC (like X360's GTA4 episodes).

Ssxtreme365183d ago

while people are running around here acting as if its the end of the world seeing how another FF game might potentially be released on another platform other than the playstation, the guys over at SE are thinking about whats more profitable for them.

if you don't plan on buying the game because "teh 360 dumbed it down", its not hurting them and there will be more people going out and buying the game because its "Final fantany" than there will be people not buying the game because its another FF game ruined by it going multiplat so either get over it or miss out entirely....

the funniest part is that so many people were hyping this game up to be 2 times better than FFXIII just because it was exclusive to the ps3 and some of the guys who worked on the KH series are involved in this game. if you like KH and the battle system, are you seriously going to tell me that you have lost all interest in buying this game just because its on another console?

enough of this console patriotism bullshit. like a game on the basis of the game, not on the basis of what console it will be available for.

Greywulf5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

Its the quality of the game suffering because the 360's hardware can't compete with the PS3's hardware. Bluray+Cell = Good Time.

Every single PS3 exclusive proves this over and over again.

Hearing news of a Multiplatform game means its not going to be what it could be. It will be something OK, instead of being like Uncharted2/WhiteKnight/Killzon e2/ValkChron/LastGuardian/GodO F War3/GT5/MGS4, etc. Sure it might be a good multiplat, but even the best multiplats pale in comparison.

Its getting excited because you might get a ferrari, then finding out its a mustang GT instead. Happens with everthing this gen, which is why this gen is garbage.

MS's business plan is to just buy into the former image of the Playstation brand. Which is fine, because Sony doesn't depend on third party, but its still annoying for MS to just not want to develop Xbox associated franchises. You don't see Sony stealing franchises at e3 as their headline news.

360 owners should just buy PS3's if they want to play all of its associated franchises, no? I mean if everyone has the same titles, why not just have EA & Activision make 1 console. Halo and Guitar Herobox.

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morkendo5183d ago

LIKE HOW?? u would think a person running a big business like SQUARE ENIX would know what the hell going on.

UltimateIdiot9115183d ago

Makes you wonder if someone is reporting the numbers wrong to him or something.

Heisenberg5183d ago

And that'll tend to happen when you plug your ears and wait for the paychecks.

knight6265182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

M$ is trying to buy its way through the gaming industry

knight6265182d ago

Funny to see how xbox fans thing ps3 fans are upset cause they losing FFvs but thats not the case ps3 fans are mad cause if they lose the game and goes multi they will be upset about how crappy the game will be...and looking at how xbox fans react they talk with M$ money and say "who care as long as i get the game iam happy"...xbox fans could never be happy when a ps3 gets an exclusive game cause it will make their xbox look like crap but when a game goes multi they happy cause their xbox version looks slightly better and say xbox is way better than ps3

booni35182d ago

Oh my aren't we cheeky.

On topic, this is not good news for those wanting exclusivity for the game. i didnt care at first, but thereapersson made a fantastic point: how many consoles could an exclusive FF sell? now im interested.
However,
This shows a widespread reaction to it, similar to the one ff13 achieved at the announcement, and that only furthered the games success(and sold a few xboxes cuz it bundled). So we can infer that perhaps this man knew exactly what he was saying the moment he said it, to only recant the statement later, and announce the exclusivity due to the rabid demands.
Clever ploy, Wada Yoichii

ThanatosDMC5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

So straight line levels again? No exploration till near the end of the game and cut out a whole half of the game again?

Dont they remember that a contest was booed by everybody including the competitors and the winners when they announced that the price for winning was a copy of FF13 on the 360? Where's that video?

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MexicanAppleThief5183d ago

At the end of the day you can't trust 3rd party developers to make exclusive games for you. Thank god for first party games.

sikbeta5183d ago

That's Why Paying For Exclusives is a "tactic" that goes nowhere, Timed Exclusivity can be only Applied with Big Titles...

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

That is why is good thing have a lot of 1st Party Developers. Like Sony or Nintendo.

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Killzone3Helghast5183d ago

MS: So Wada how does 50 milwion dorru sound to you? Wada: $_$ sold!

George Sears5183d ago (Edited 5183d ago )

I always thought that Square sort of used FFXIII as a leverage to understand the 360 user appeal when it comes to JRPGs. Judging by these results was to conclude Versus state of being exclusive or not.

Square isn't the same pro Sony only dev like they usually were last gen. The industry has changed and they have to accommodate to that.

Personally, I've really lost interest on pretty much everything JRPG this gen (excluding Atlus and there MegaTen series) so I wouldn't even care if it goes multiplatform.

As for Versus per se, I believe Nomura can pull out a great game so I hope he could redeem Squares reputation when it comes to the FF series.

zootang5183d ago

I couldn't agree more (well, partly because it will only let me once)

As long as Persona 5 is exclusive and uses that blu ray space, I am happy.

Homicide5183d ago

"As long as Persona 5 is exclusive and uses that blu ray space, I am happy."

Atlus has hired 360 developers, and they are a small company. They won't use full of the PS3's power and blu-ray space.

Noctis Aftermath5183d ago

I don't see where he wrote that he expects them to push the PS3's power, the space on the blu-ray on the other hand is entirely possible.

gamingisnotacrime5183d ago

yep, developers were not used to MS handing out big checks for stealing exclusives ad time exclusive BS. Other than that we all know who is pushing gaming forward and who is milking gamers for their money with obsolete tech

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Square Enix Is "Working Hard" On Small To Medium-Scaled Games, CEO Says

The Square Enix CEO has recently confirmed in a shareholders' meeting that it is still working hard on multiple small-sized games.

CrimsonWing6927d ago

I thought they said they were focusing on bigger games… so, we’re staying the same now?

just_looken27d ago

They should come clean and just say that they are working hard on keeping the light's on as they were a greedy company that is now almost broke.

The_Blue27d ago

They can't decide rather to squeeze into the indie mobile market or AAA.

CrimsonWing6927d ago

All I can say is I hope Front Mission 3 Remake didn't get cancelled.

anast27d ago

Quality should be number 1.

Abnor_Mal27d ago

Does smaller games translate to smaller prices for the consumer, or no?

just_looken27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

HA HA square small prices this is the company that made avengers and said Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Didn't Meet Sales Expectations Amid Struggles

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Same in 2023 with ff16

https://www.eurogamer.net/f...

They got 202 million usd in operating income they want cash fast so get those $60 3hr long games out there fast and more microtransactions now.

Hotpot27d ago

Well I don’t mind more HD-2D games.. preferably something like FFVI, Chrono Trigger, or Xenogears.

shinoff218327d ago

Even some new single story experiences in hd2d(octapath is good but I like single story games to)

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Fear Effect coming to PS5, PS4, Switch, and PC in 2025

Limited Run Games, in cooperation with Square Enix, will release action adventure game Fear Effect for PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, Switch, and PC via Steam in 2025, the company announced.

CrimsonWing6935d ago (Edited 35d ago )

What!? That is freaking great!!!! I really loved this game back in the day and was so pissed the Remake got changed and then eventually canceled. This is such great news that it’s the original. Will definitely get the plat for it.

Mr Pumblechook35d ago

The article mentions:

* PC
* Nintendo Switch
* PlayStation 4
* PlayStation 5

But why isn’t there a mention of the Xbox Series version?

CrimsonWing6935d ago

Yea that’s a Limited Run Games thing like what @Scissorman showed in the article. They’ve tried selling the physical versions of Xsex games, but they just don’t sell. But I’m fairly sure this should be digital for Xbox, if not, then it’s time to drop Xbox and come to greener pastures.

wesnytsfs35d ago

@CrimsonWing69, greener pastures.. Yep moved to mainly PC now myself get all the good games from both companies now if only Nintendo would release games on PC too.

RiseNShine35d ago

so a ps1 game launched in modern platformos, mmmkay. I can play it already in emulators with high res, retroachievements support and more, doesn't make much sense.

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Square Enix Is Going Multiplatform; The Layoffs & Its Past Don't Inspire Confidence

After its latest games didn't meet sales targets, Square Enix is going multiplatform but the company's track record isn't convincing.

Scissorman70d ago

Square Enix been multiplatform for decades, a few exclusively-deals doesn't make them any less multiplatform.

fr0sty70d ago

Nor is selling their games on a console with only 25 million install base going to bring their sales to where they hope they will be... Unless they somehow manage to dumb down FF7 trilogy to work on switch, they aren't going to have much luck. They already released it on PC, after all.

anast70d ago

Where are you getting that number?

SegaSaturn66970d ago

It kind of does, giving preference to a certain platform by timed exclusivity. Console ports generally feel superior. Legend of mana PC port extremely broken

neutralgamer199270d ago

Sega

It doesn’t when square themselves didn’t want to fund the development of remake. It’s only after the success of the 1st they realized their mistake but now contract is signed. If it wasn’t for Sony there would be no FF7 remakes. Same goes for silent hill 2 with Konami. They don’t want to fund AAA budget. Companies like PlayStation and Nintendo get blamed when in reality they are saving some of these franchises

Remember sega didn’t want to fund bayonetta and epic games didn’t want to fund another gears of war. It’s easy to blame console makers but they are the ones taking the risk and paying huge upfront costs without seeing the final product. FF7 remake trilogy won’t be coming to Xbox now or in the future. PlayStation and PC is what square signed up for. Sony paid them more than they would make from Xbox sales.

ravens5270d ago

I just wonder when everyone is going to demand that the Square Enix exclusives with Nintendo come to PS and Xbox. Or it's just the PS exclusives that matter lol

phoenixwing70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

I'd love for the nintendo exclusives to come to pc or ps5. They'd actually be playable then.

neutralgamer199270d ago

Raven

Exactly and that’s where square enix does more exclusive than any other platform. Gaming is square has always been very unrealistic with their sales expectations. Remember when tomb raider reboot sold 7.5 million and square said it wasn’t enough. They need to spend less on development and have more realistic expectations from sales.

And those thinking games being not on Xbox makes a difference don’t understand we have a decade plus of data showing square enix games having less than 20% of their multiplatform sales on Xbox (final fantasy series) and Nintendo consoles aren’t strong enough to run any current games. Nintendo switch should be as strong as Xbox one x atleast but we all know that’s most likely won’t happen

RoadRacer70d ago

@raven

thing is, as neutral said in their comm, the switch isn't strong enough to run flagship SE games
i think what SE does is, it makes unique games for switch only so that it has something for that console too. Thats where all the "underlined sans" rpgs go to mostly

maybe things will change when Swtich 2 drops cuz that's gonna be as strong as ps4 afaik from the rumors flying around

TheGamingHounds70d ago

@Scissorman

Your point is valid enough but when the icon of this company is limited to one console in timed-exclusivity, it means the company has crossed the line. By some degree at least

All things aside, Square itself stated "aggressive multiplatform strategies" so we all know what it's talking about

Scissorman70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

Then the headline should read "Square To Drop Exclusively Deals in Pursuit of A Sweeping Multiplatform Strategy". I don't recall this argument when Square Enix released Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, and Triangle Strategy on one platform. And even if FF is the icon, not all of its titles have gone to one platform. We're talking about three games, one of which is already on PC. Did Square suddenly go 'multiplatform' after it released subsequent Tomb Raider sequels on more than just the Xbox? It's just a silly way of putting it.

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TheGamingHounds70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

SE needs to go all in optimization. Broken PC ports won't help its case, especially with big releases like mainline Final Fantasy

Asterphoenix70d ago

It's actually simple. What doesn't inspire confidence is Square allocating their budgets on the wrong projects such as Forspoken, Avengers, Babylons Fall and Foamstars.

Square has always been multiplatform since PS3/360 days which 80 % of their games are. People kick up a fuss over PS exclusivity but not Nintendo which has more exclusive projects console exclusive from Square.

FF16 has done ok but not enough to fix the blunders that the past mistakes Square has made with some of their projects. FF7 Rebirth is unclear we'll see a PC release for sure so it's hard to say so far not as good as they would of liked.

Then again unrealistic expectations. If it weren't for Sony these games would at least had another 2 years development time. So some people need to be realistic in that regard.

Scissorman70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

It's the blunders that set those expectations so high. If you remove those from the equation, I bet the sales numbers would be more than stellar. Square believes it's okay to release a pile of risky, middling, garbage because the big boys will ultimately subsidize the cost. Don't worry if Forspoken sells poorly, FF16 will surely sell 10 million copies to balance that right out. Oh wait, it only sold like 4 million. Well that's a disaster. Meanwhile games that sell 2 million units with comparable budgets are deemed successful.

thorstein70d ago

I would also add that FFXVI, which I loved has a hint to one of their biggest problems: the number 16.

It's a great franchise, but that's all they've become known for. Dragon Quest is my favorite all time series but it's like they don't know what to do outside of those two IPs.

Valve never makes trilogies. The idea is that they don't want to become stagnant. Gabe Newell hates the number 3.

I can't imagine their talent wouldn't want to try a new RPG.

RoadRacer70d ago

Square Enix just really need to revise its expectations. Maybe consider a change in strategy on dev end as well. Multiplat will help for sure but only good games that are marketed well will sell

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