Red Dead Redemption Comparison by Ars Technica: "360 version has quite the graphical advantage"

Red Dead Redemption 360 vs. PS3: Ars Technicas thoughts

"Our review copies of Red Dead Redemption have arrived, which means it's time to get to work on some coverage. Rockstar sent both a PS3 and a 360 version of the game, and many people are wondering which version to get, so we thought we'd do a quick comparison."

[Ghoul]

Well, its an opinion nothing more. But i guess the 360 really seams to have a slight advantage.

im totally neutral. In the end it comes down to how many of my friends get what version of the game.

[booni3]

there is just no excuse for flamebait.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

if sub-HD is your game

[pangitkqb]

It's nice to know which version is superior. With a growing number of reports corroborating the differences in both versions, I will be going with the 360. Just as I chose FFXIII on PS3 for obvious reasons.

[Morituri]

Is superior defined by slightly optimized graphics or by exclusive content, because it seems that both versions have the upper hand on the other in different respects.

[Desecron]

Well put, pogibaldy... but this is n4g, we don't do "reasonable" here, gtfo.

[Raf1k1]

I think it's safe to assume that the reason for the extra content on PS3 is because of it lacking slightly in the graphical department.

[booni3]

and in that choice lies the beauty of multiconsole gaming. gamers up, fanboys down.

[ExgamerLegends2]

He says that if you have both get the 360 version based on a slight graphical difference? What about the ps3's exclusive content? Hmmm, slightly better grafx or more features. Be a grafx whore or be a gamer? So hard to choose./s

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It's an extra location and mission. I hate to say this, but OWNED!!!

[TheBand1t]

Extra clothing and an extra area to explore.

[ExgamerLegends2]

The point is that 1 miniscule difference is not a deciding factor as the author would have you believe. And I would like to point out to those who cant read the "/s" at the end of my comment.

[DMason]

Im sorry, but I have a feeling the reason R* offered up the exclusive content was because of the graphical difference. It's to entice people to buy the PS3 version. Because believe it or not, people will buy a version based on graphical differences.

The same thing can be said about Dantes Inferno. Why do you think it got additional content on the PS3? It's to keep the PS3 gamers happy because they know that EA ripped off God of War completely (even though nothing could technically rip off God of War, its too good).

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

''The same thing can be said about Dantes Inferno. Why do you think it got additional content on the PS3?''

To compete against GoW 3. Not because of the Graphics subject.

[Hooby]

Consider that every single ps3 fanboy seems to think graphics > all, this must really get their panties in a bunch.

[DMason]

Yes, I know it wasnt because of the graphics. It was because of the gameplay. I was just making a comparison.

[JD_Shadow]

This is Ars Technica here. They've NEVER shown the PS3 much love. I'm not surprised that they are saying this stuff. I don't know why anyone else IS surprised.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

after Im done with AW Ill get RDR for 360. Im still more interested to see a better comparison tho.

LOL grey wolf. 360 has the better version of RDR. Just like FF13 is better on PS3.
Why are you talking about PS3 exclusives???? Is it because there is no superior 360 version of those games?

Way to go completely off topic and add nothing but a whining fanboy rant to the conversation.

[beardpapa]

So how many multi console owners are going to skip out on the extra content for a minor Improvement in graphics?

[SaberEdge]

So how many multi console owners are going to skip out on the better graphics for a minor bit of insignificant extra content?

[SPARTANVI]

Well, skipping it to play with my friends on XBL.

If I wanted better graphics, I'd always buy the PC version... then play by myself.

[aGameDeveloper]

The blurriness of GTA4 on PS3 (rendered at the same resolution) and the fact that it was such an eyestrain is going to prompt me to buy this on 360.What good is the extra content if I can't stand to play the game long enough to even finish it?

[DaTruth]

Better to have blurry full streets and some kind of draw distance rather than a slightly crisper empty streets, no draw distances and insane pop-in!

[Brock Danger]

Hate to burst your bubble, but the graphics are insanely crisp and the draw distance is ridiculous with, from what I've seen so far, no pop-in.

Objectively speaking, probably the best looking game I've seen

[villevalorox]

When I went to gamestop last night for the MIdnight launch they had 2 lines. for ps3 and xbox, ps3 line was well over double the size of he xbox line. I don't think this graphic thing will make the difference in sales at all. I have a good feeling that ps3 is going to outsell xbox on this one.

[Biggest]

It's strange to me that unless the game is called Madden, Call of Duty, Halo, or Gears of War the majority of 360 owners just don't care. The same thing happened at Best Buy near me. The PS3 version was down to 3 copies before the night was done. The 360 version has 2 full displays and a few boxes left in the back.

[sikbeta]

I'm totally OK with this, once again there is a MULTIPLATFORM Game that looks slightly Better on the x360, but everyone knows how this Start and how it Ends

Some Crowd will start to talk about "Console Superiority" by taking this game as The Primary example and denying Their Own Exclusive games that don't look as good as they were thinking and Hyping it so much, then when Someone try to "argue" by talking about Other Games That Looks AWESOME on the PS3, they'll just deny and talk crap, so this is pointless...

[WildArmed]

lol @
'Here's another reason to buy the game for the Xbox 360: if you dislike playing with strangers, there are 16 Ars Technica members in the game's thread playing online with the 360 version, compared to three on the PS3. If you're going to be playing, sign up!'

So playing with random people on a site is better than people you already know IRL or old LIVE/PSN friends?

Anyways, I'm not hooked on this game yet.,
Alot of my friends have picked it up, so far it's split between my 360 n ps3 friends.
12 - 12.

Now I just gotta decide if this game is worth buying and what people i rather play with o_O

[BannedForNineYears]

Lol@It's an opinion.
"The textures are more clear...."
"IT'S YOUR OPINION LOL10011"
Really....It's not a freaking opinion.

[MEsoJD]

I have a ps3 but I would enjoy this type of game on PC More.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

All those broken promises of HD gaming both PS3 and 360 are guilty, is not fair on the consumer.

That's really disappointing and disservice to gamers expecting HD quality. Sony and Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves!

And this is bad for video games altogether. This needs to stop.

[likedamaster]

Funny how when PS3 versions are considered slightly superior, EVERYONE is supposed to get that version but when it's the 360 version that's superior... it doesn't matter. Double standards as always with ps3 fangirls.

With that said, get it for whatever platform you have or feel like getting. Didn't stop FFXIII from selling on 360 although it was superior on PS3. Nuf said.

[Tapewurm]

I picked up my PS3 version and threw it in and it looks a hell of a lot better than any of the screens I've seen in these comparison threads....Playing it on my Sony Bravia and it looks pretty sharp...all of these screens were either taken from an inferior TV or they have been doctored. Haven't seen the 360 version running yet...so I can't comment on that, but rest assured that if you grab the ps3 version and have the HDMI set up on a decent TV you will be very happy with what you see.

[Quagland]

"Here's another reason to buy the game for the Xbox 360: if you dislike playing with strangers, there are 16 Ars Technica members in the game's thread playing online with the 360 version, compared to three on the PS3"

Brilliant reasoning.

Very disappointing, Rockstar. I'll get the PS3 version anyway and see what DF/LoT have to say.

[WildArmed]

Yup.. because 16 Ars Technica members are not strangers =p
So feel free to take a ride in their dark van with their masked friends.

[SprSynJn]

But that comment sounds very immature. Is there any video games website out there not run by hermits?

[Forbidden_Darkness]

Lets change the very slight to 360 has quite the advantage and get tons of hits!

[Hooby]

The difference is only "very slight" if you're blind.

[cliffbo]

"The difference is only "very slight" if you're blind."

i disagree i`m blind and i cannot see any difference. lol

[Lucreto]

I was looking at a few reviews and some gave better graphics to the PS3 version. Another one said they were exactly the same.

[Applegate]

Weird, most reviewers didnt get the PS3 version, only the 360 version.

[UnwanteDreamz]

What I find weird is your comment above. Trying to compare an exclusive to a multiplatform game. I like how that is all you have to brag about.

[StanLee]

Can you please link to a review that said the PS version had better graphics? Many remarked that there weren't any clear differences between the two but you'd be hard press to find one saying the PS3 version was better. Please show and prove.

[moegooner88]

9.5 Presentation
A powerful story and remarkable characters. Tons of depth, but it doesn't quite have the perfect polish that most Rockstar games exhibit.
9.5 Graphics
A few visual hiccups are the only downside to this incredible looking game. Fantastic art direction.
( http://uk.ps3.ign.com/artic... )

9.5 Presentation
Menus are thoughtfully integrated into the game's own style, load-times are near non-existent and the HUD is kept beautifully minimal.
9.0 Graphics
Up-close it can be a little rough around the edges, but when it's dealing with the scale that's the game's penchant it's truly breathtaking.
( http://xbox360.ign.com/arti... )

@cold 2000 both reviews r from IGN UK, next time read b4 commenting

[Hallmark Moment]

IGN US-360: 9.7
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/a...

IGN UK-360: 9.8
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/a...

Both IGN-UK and IGN-US use the same PS3 review but the 360 has two reviews from both the IGN-US and the IGN-UK

And yes Both RDR 360 reviews are listed on the UK site so you will have to look by the review date to see that one of the reviews is from the US despite it being posted on the the UK site and the other from the UK on the UK site.

MAKE SURE YOU LOOK FOR THE DATE BECAUSE THAT WILL SHOW WHERE THE REVIEW CAME FROM REGARDLESS OF ALL THE REVIEWS BEING POSTED BY "IGN-UK"

That is probably one of the more effective PS3 fan damage control tricks I have ever seen. LOL people are still agreeing with you. I guess fanboys have to win something lol.

You tell him to read before commenting but it's clear you didn't read everything and you have a comprehension problem.

[bjornbear]

PS3 has an equal score 360 RDR on metacritic.

that should do for most of you. if you arguing over review sources, you really need to just shut up and play videogames.

both versions are equal, end discussion.

[SaberEdge]

Lol at anybody that thinks review scores will ever tell you which version of a multi-platform game looks better.

The truth is, the vast majority of reviewers only review one version and have no experience with the other version. Only dedicated technical comparison sites will reveal the true differences.

[zeddy]

i aint buying it now, rockstar have 3-4 years of experience with the ps3 and there should be no excuses.

[thewhoopimen]

I'm not getting this new either. Something along the lines of my thinking saying that I should pay 20%less than full retail... since i'm getting 80% of the resolution.

[BeaArthur]

Are we going to have to see these articles for the next 3 days?

[Nike]

You know what they say: Ain't no rest for the wicked, when there's money to be made.

[asdf12]

Yes, we are.

Ain't life a bitch?

[blodulv]

this will go on for quite some time... GTAIV was no different.

[himdeel]

...well have to stomach these type of useless articles for the next few weeks at the latest since the reviews have been showing up later than some other games this year. If you already have this game you're not taking it back for the other version. Likewise I doubt the difference breaks the game for anyone.

[Pennywise]

Yes we will, unfortunately. One game in the last 4 months has an advantage on the 360 and they will beat it to death. The first FFXIII article like this for the 360 and the tears were flowing about: "We already know this, its not a big deal"... and now its a big deal. lol

I only own a PS3. Congrats on having a better looking version, but I will never know any better.

[BeaArthur]

Pennywise...to be fair any edge for PS3 versions of games is also beaten to death.

[-MD-]

"Congrats on having a better looking version, but I will never know any better. "

Which is the case for literally every single multiplatform game. Nobody buys a copy for both consoles so they never see the difference.

My copy of Red Dead should be in the mail tomorrow (360 version).

[bjornbear]

"this game looks awesome on PS3, now stfu"

until then though, its waiting and seeing this crap all over n4g

[Pika-pie]

Well, if your not trying to decide which version to buy then just ignore them.

Outside of the 'my console is better than yours' fanboys... There are legitmate multiconsole owners who need to know these things

[Colonel-Killzone]

Sigh I knew I would see this flamebait article eventually. Who cares just play the game. First PS3 fanboys rubbing in the xbox fanboys face "haha we got exclusive content" now we have xbox fanboys says "haha we got better graphics" lol...... Seriously its still a nice looking game on both consoles.

[Ares84PS3]

Now I MUST sell my PS3 and my games collection and buy a 360 right away.

Looks like R* still doesn't know how to work on the PS3.

maybe they should ask Naughty Dog for some help or advice?

[ShOtCall3r33]

wow..................i couldn't give a bigger shit about an article than i do with this piece of text

[xYLeinen]

*Giggle*

[MiloGarret]

best comment in this thread yet.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

dont care... i sold my xbox360 months ago. No need to "chose"
I dont count pixels... just insert mi Bluray an PLAY... an Enjoy my game

Edit:

Lol at the disagrees... only on N4G

[Applegate]

I bet you sure do count them pixels when it comes to 360 games that you cant play anyway.

[UnwanteDreamz]

No but he probably laughs at all those 360 fans claiming graphic superiority then they finfd out their game is sub HD. You fankids want to pretend that what happened with Alan Wake was all about the Sony fanboys, and you ignore all those 360 kids running aroun claiming best graphics ever on a game they hadn't played.

[SaberEdge]

You know what, UnwantedDreams?...Alan Wake is one of the best looking games I have ever played on a console.

PS3 fanboys were hypocrites right off the bat because MGS4 is sub-hd and is constantly held up by PS3 fanboys as a graphical beast, but suddenly tried to pretend that Alan Wake can't be a graphical beast due to its sub-hd resolution. Like I said, Alan Wake does have amazing graphics, regardless of its native resolution.

[AssassinHD]

The native resolution of MGS4 is 1024x768. Where did you read that it is sub-HD?

[Dusdg]

Saber edge 1024x768 is not the same thing. it is sub-HD actually...

1280x720 = 921,600 pixels
1024x768 = 786,432 pixels

I don't care how tall an image is on your widescreen tv. It's all about being wide enough to fill the tv.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

i have PC too

[BYE]

That's all you need for gaming ... PS3 and a good PC.

[Tony-A]

Ahh, multiplatform superiority! That's like getting the last chicken wing on the plate..... before we ask for another plate.

:D

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Its like us paying the same amount of money for the "same" wings, only mine are better(only resolution isnt a subjective opinion like the taste of wings is).

[UnwanteDreamz]

Yours may be better but they still came from a place that sells mediocre wings. You missed his point, but from what I can tell that is nothing new for you.

Anyone bragging about graphics on a multiplatform game is desperate. I knew this would happen and I knew it would get heat like crazy because that is all the 360 camp has left. The chance at a superior multi.

I think it is sad

[Tony-A]

Thanks you, UnwanteDreamz & Parapraxis.

Solidus, even if your point was valid (which wasn't in my analogy or point), then this would fit snugly with what you said:

Even if you get better-tasting wings, mine would be the complete meal, since it came with a drink and fries (the two bits of DLC). Reminiscent of GTA IVs DLC, only we have yet to see if you get the same meal a week later.

[Parapraxis]

Extra content, or slightly better graphics....
So, which is "better"?

[Biggest]

For some people it seems the higher resolution is better. But they are the same people that pay $299 for a Xbox 360 and think they've purchased something better than a PS3 for the same price. So what if you get more with the PS3? Red Dead Redemption has a higher resolution. It's obviously the better deal.

[ajay_solidsnake]

"Here's another reason to buy the game for the Xbox 360: if you dislike playing with strangers, there are 16 Ars Technica members in the game's thread playing online with the 360 version, compared to three on the PS3. If you're going to be playing, sign up!"

What the.....LOLOLOL

[Fishy Fingers]

Cherry on top if you were buying the 360 version I suppose. But I wasnt expecting much less, it's the same Engine as GTA 4 right? And I (that's, >I< as in my opinion) thought that performed slightly better on the 360.

[wissam]

Anther inferior 3rd party game for the ps3. is there anything new here.

[blodulv]

with L.A. Noire.

[Pennywise]

with Agent.

oh wait...

[teedogg80]

Lol...good one.

[-MD-]

It'll be funny if (when) Agent goes multiplatform.

[aaronisbla]

not so sure about that, normally when sony touts something as exclusive for their console ( and not exclusive for this console for this year, like they said with FF14 ) it normally holds significant weight.

Can you name 1 exclusive this gen that sony touted as exclusive from the top of the mountains only to end up with egg on their faces Murderdolls?

Not talking about something that sony fanboys thought they were entitled to and something xbox fanboys bragged about, i mean something that sony knew was exclusive only to have the rug pulled out from under them? All of these exclusives that went multi sony knew about

[AssassinHD]

It will be about as funny as if (when) Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, and Splinter Cell: Conviction go multiplatform.

[corneliuscrust]

with FF VS XIII?

It really doesn't matter in the end. Both systems get great multiplat games and great exclusives (yes even 360).. but the exclusives are specifically where Sony is putting its money and flexing some muscle.

And I am daaaaamn glad for that!

Game on MS and Sony, get competitive while we gamers sit back and reap the benefits

[maxcer]

same shit different pile. as soon as that rumor hit N4G, fanboys came out of the woodwork saying VS will now suck and their skipping on the title.

[RyuDrinksTheDew]

...and it looks great, thats all that matter.

[Fishy Fingers]

Exactly, your not going to know or care what the other version looks like when your playing the game. I always side with the console most of my friends will be playing on, friends over pixels.

[Redlogic]

I probably would have gotten it for 360 but since I know I'll be playing this game for hours at a time I'm afraid my Xbox will over heat. So I went with the ps3 version by default. It doesn't matter in the end, but it would be nice if both versions were equal across the board.

[divideby0]

I bought the PS3 version this morning...and as stupid as this may sound, I am thinking about switching to the 360 version....I respect this dudes...

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You shouldn't. I did a comparison with the versions. Not a single
person I asked could tell the difference between the games.

[MACADOODLE]

If you have a choice get the 360 version, we have both on display here at my Walmart and there is a diffrence.

[weazel]

Thanks for telling me what version we need to get, Mr. handy Walmart Shelf-Stacker.
Your opinion will certainly hold a lot of weight in my purchasing decisions for future electronic and gaming needs, as i'm sure that your magic display will show us the right way to invest any future financial transactions, and you must be the most objective, impartial, and, gosh-darn-it, the most honest and informed shill hound ever.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

LOL!

[ian72]

I will be getting RDR for PS3 as I don't have a 360. It really doesn't matter which version you get, you'll have the same enjoyment with either.

[Animal Mutha 76]

I'll wait for the LoT comparison as I think they do a good job. Most likely a 360 purchase for me due to the fact all my friends are on XBL and I've not updated my PS3 since the remove other OS update

[unknownhero1123]

meh, It still looks good on my tv. go ahead though, while you guys are bragging about graphics I'm going to actually play the game right now.

[8thnightvolley]

time to fight... now answer me this.. which is the superior one?. X-D

edit: today seem to be like some sweet day for the 360 fannies.. thou.. first Vesus coming multi(rumour) and now this .. lol ps3 fans u gotta be pisssedd offfff lol

[Voiceofsoi]

If the PS3 version looks worse than the Xbox version then Rockstar = Lazy

PS3 is a more powerful machine. Fact.

But admittedly (as my friend is studying this at the moment) the PS3 is a headache to program for. Like... You have no idea. But seriously, if you're making a game with this much ambition - to simply downgrade the whole thing for the PS3 is just plain lazy. It's like stuffing an Xbox game into one of the PS3's 8 processors - which is what they did with GTA IV.

[corneliuscrust]

From their (the Rockstar dev team) perspective, they did what they had to do to finish the project to their best ability in the time allotted, I'm sure there was a ton of pressure on them to get the game out on time.

Also, people really need to understand that studios like Santa Monica and Naughty Dog and Guerilla aren't just some random devs that lucked into being able to write great games for Sony's technically marvellous but technically messy hardware.

(even According to SCEA's CEO Jack Tretton:
http://gizmodo.com/5025980/...
"The hardware guys developed the [PlayStation 3] fairly independently, then dumped it onto the software guy's lap, effectively saying 'do something with it.'")

The aforementioned devs did a FANTASTIC job coding amazing engines for the PS3. Yes the ps3 has more potentially powerful hardware, but if not in capable hands, that turns into a moot point.

I really hope Sony continues to buy up amazing first party talent as THAT is where we see the PS3 really shine. Buying MM means that it really looks like Sony is in the right direction.

[PS360_37]

Are these articles ever going to stop? A lot of you people sound like 10 year old kids arguing over who gets to sit in the front seat.

If you are a true gamer, and unless the difference in graphics caused a version to be unplayable, this sh*t doesn't matter.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

To those people its pretty important to see which one is better for whatever reasons.

[Monkey521]

Only when that difference is significant. How about get the game on whatever console you like more, and stop arguing like a bunch of babies.

[keysy420]

on the ps3

[xg-ei8ht]

I expected the same thing as was with gta4, nothing has changed. I'm guessing either they don't want to mess to much with the engine, similar thing with split second, looks slightly burry being a lower rez on the 360./ and better quality on the PS3.

But it's no biggie either side.

[mrmikew2018]

Why are some of the people making a final decision base off a rumor and some random person's opinion? Come on guys be honest with yourself, if you were going to get the 360 version, you were going to get the 360 version (or vice versa). You don't need anybody else to tell you differently.

[weazel]

disagrees for using common sense!? HOW??WHY??

[ApocalypseShadow]

SOME multiplatform games come out looking SLIGHTLY better on 360 because of a multiplatform engine,and the 360 fans sing the praises when the truth is still out there:

PS3 EXCLUSIVE games still look better.

360 EXCLUSIVE games still can barely reach 720P.IF even that.

when a 360 exclusive game bests the top ps3 games,let us know.now we return to our regularly scheduled bullsh!t articles and comments.

[Dance]

you are fooling nobody http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

[Space_cancer]

Play ur PS and shut the fcuk up, nobody cares.

Play teh games, not the machine.

[Guitarded]

MOST multiplatform games come out looking SLIGHTLY better on 360 and SOME come out looking WAY better.

The truth is the largest portion of games on both systems are multiplatform and they look better on 360 more times than not.

PS3 exclusive games still look SLIGHTLY better.

360 exclusive games are slightly less visually stunning.

When a PS3 exclusive game bests a 360 game the way Splinter Cell on Xbox bested Splinter Cell on PS2 let me know. As of now the difference between PS3 and 360 graphics is closer to Xbox to Gamecube. Now you may return to your regularly scheduled comments.

[Space_cancer]

Have no fear, she will return.

[zorglub]

Uncharted 2 and god of war 3 kills everything on 360 so wake me up when it changes.

PS3 >> 360 right now

You get to play every game including the most beautiful ones (PS3 exclusives).

The best multiplatform version is PC anyway. I played Mass Effect 2 on PC, it destroys the 360 version.

[tudors]

if I said I was not happy that the 360 version is better, Alan Wake really has been bashed these last few days, and considering this is likely the best looking sandbox game ever made and I own a 360 of course I am happy, why wouldn't I be? but!!! I will wait until the IGN review because I heard all this before with Final Fantasy.

[eggbert]

never got released?

[Meryl]

alan wake is not the best game ever deal with it

[Crystallis]

Easy Nerd boy. RDR is a multi...AW is an exclusive.....or is it?

[asdf12]

I've got a big bag o' trolls here, i'm gonna put them in this threaaaad!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

There were two articles stating the 360 version of FFXIII looked better too. You people are so gullible.

[MACADOODLE]

Yeah but this ain't just two articles and there is the fact that Rockstar kept any vids anf pics of RDR quiet. It's over and done with let it go.

[TreMillz]

seriously, exactly why did n4g remove the open section? this is a complete joke i bet all these fanboys dont even have the game yet, if they did theyd be playing it instead, cant wait to get out of this mall to go play my copy on the "inferior" version on ps3, really yet these same fanboys are the ones that claim "graphics dont make the game" all of you please GTFO!

[maxcer]

so i guess the same goes for all the twats ripping on alan wake about sub-HD, none of them have the game yet they rip it up and have a laugh in the mean time.

it serves those fanboys right for dissing wake and conviction. now we can shove it in their face.

[aaronisbla]

see maxcer, its comments like this that prove fanboy mentality. " well they laughed at us, so now we laugh at them" Fanboys shouldn't have the right to call other's fanboy when clearly it shows thru them also

[KidMakeshift]

So like after you're done comparing d!cks you should really try playing the game

[xYLeinen]

This is not a matter if you can see which version is better or not. Ofc you will not notice this when you sit home on a Friday night playing the freaking game.

This is a matter of which console got the BEST version of the game. Meaning the SUPERIOR version. That is why fanboy A is fighting with fanboy B and this is why there is no conclusion to this thread.

So why bother arguing?

[jambabie69]

when rockstar we're having issues? something to do with their management or whatever, can't really remember for sure. if the game is slightly better on the 360, it would kinda make sense if i remember right. it takes more time and all to make games really shine on the ps3, everyone knows this.

i'm not surprised by this "news". as long as the ps3 version doesn't have framrate issues and such then it will be ok. i really don't think those that play it on their ps3's will be disappointed. i will wait for a "real" comparison before judging.

one things for sure, n4g sure is full of flamebait lately....

[justlu]

the point of any of these types of articles. It's not like most of us have a choice in which version of the game we get. We either own a 360 or a PS3 not both so we don't have the option of choosing either version we are stuck with whatever version is available for our console. So what's the point of even comparing the two versions ? There is none.

[Close_Second]

...a difference? Both consoles have proven what they're capable of. Why does the developer not front up and simply state the reasons for the difference rather than not showing any footage from one version before its released?

[xYLeinen]

The reason many multi platform titles are a bit different is that every developer starts out developing for one console. Many developers start developing for the Xbox 360 because it's the oldest and easiest console to develop to. After that they port the version to the PS3 and make changes from there on.

[Close_Second]

...its the same ole story that has been bandied about since the first 360/PS3 multiplatform release. However, I want more information about the differences and why they could not adjust their game engine accordingly. Of course obvious answers will again be time and money however, I'd prefer not to speculate. You'd have thought they would have had heaps of time to get both engines running the same since releasing GTAIV.

[Rowsdower]

fosters this bullshit. N4G and the sites who gain their hits through it thrive off of this bullshit. No maturity, no sense of responsibility, no short term memory, just bullshit.

if you love gaming run from this site as fast as you can, you know what ignore online gaming journalism all together, you'll be better off in the end.

there is nothing of value here

fanboys are people with emotional and psychological issues, they will put you down one day for some stupid issue or for some stupid thing someone says, then when the tables get turned they cant admit they were wrong in the first place, and the cycle goes on and on

gaming is the last thing this site is about, its really about driving traffic to websites through sensationalism, hyperbole, and drawing out the worst in people.

[mrmikew2018]

Well said bro

[aaronisbla]

Damn bro well said

[Digibull]

+bubble for correct conclusion & the name. Rowsdower, awaaaaaaaaaaaay!

[foss3]

While I agree that the argument is petty, I disagree that we shouldn't have a response and we should disregard any opinion on differences between the versions.

If a game is released on two competing consoles and one version runs at 720p and one runs at 644p, we should be annoyed that it needed to be downscaled.

Of course I don't know if there are any other differences that might give preference to the PS3 with respect to rendering but it still shows that the developers had to set different standards because of their inability to develop on the PS3.

That said I own a PS3, PSP, DS, and Dreamcast. I have owned and sold or given away a Wii, PS2, PS1, SNES, NES, Gameboy, Intellivision, and Coleco Vision. I have never owned an xbox or 360.

[cpuchess]

If you only have 1 console then this topic is pointless, however it does help those who have both. I cancelled my PS3 pre order and just picked up the 360 version because I want the best looking one. PS3 is still the superior console, it sucks it got screwed over like that.

[Hanilugtehul]

im still going to get it for my ps3:-)

[mrmikew2018]

A lot of people are jumping the gun to soon, this whole "644p resolution" is just a rumor. Nobody knows what resolution either version is running at and in end is not going to matter anyway. I can see now N4G is never going to change their ways.

[Raider69]

Im going to give this comment on this post!Do you people now the reason MONSTER HUNTER will not happen any time soon or ever on the PS3?Theres one simply reason,CAPCOM, MT FRAMEWORK runs like SH%T on the PS3!LOST PLANET,LOST PLANET 2,RE5,all of this games run badly wend compared to the Xbox 360 version that runs super smooth!Now comes RDR and the EUPHORIA engine,and once again another multiplatform engine that runs subpar against the Xbox360 counterpart!The real deal is that this haves nothing to do with making the PS3 the lead platform,its just a simple method of code for that console hardware ,and the 360 is more easy and faster to code for!TIME IS MONEY !

[seij555]

Rockstar is a pile of shit, I didn't like GTA4 and I won't like RDR despite the overrated ratings its been getting. They are fucking lazy if they still can't make a fucking HD game for the PS3. I'm boycotting this fucking game just so they know PS3 users won't stand for this shit. I'll just pirate this game when it comes out on PC.

[maxcer]

lol cry some more.
boycott!, lazy devs!, boycott!

i bet if the game did have a higher resolution you would be praising the ps3 itself for the visuals instead of R*. but now that its not up to your standards(ie.better than 360) you start to moan and bitch about R* being lazy. Here's a tip get off you lazy ass and get a 360 if you can't handle it.

[jaosobno]

So they did comparison by eye, and they concluded that the 360 version is superior... How scientific! Beware of fanboy's eyes... They see what the ordinary eyes cannot...

Well done ars tehnica, you started another flame war! What a$$holes...

[Ri0tSquad]

First GTA IV, then Midnight Club LA, and now RDR? Wow, they need to step it up, especially if they plan on releasing an exclusive PS3 game; sub-HD is unacceptable. Excellent game so far, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in their failure to get their games in HD on PS3 by now. Seems like they don't care.

[Alcohog]

THAT WAS THE GREATEST COMPARISON EVER.

[Mr Lahey]

The 360 version of GTA IV (among lots of other multigames) had a SLIGHT graphical advantage.. But it's so slight that you have to compare both versions side by side to notice any difference at all. (some reviewers even stated that the PS3-version had the upper hand) In other words, it won't affect the experience in any way. These differences are exaggerated by 30 year old virgins counting pixels and trolling fanboys shouting their mouths of in forum threads.. I read/heard that Bioshock, AC2, GTAIV among other multigames supposedly looks horrible on PS3.. I finished all of them on PS3 and they all looked great!

[Gun_Senshi]

If you are multi-Console Owner, just buy the version which you have friends to play with.

Posse with friends should not be missed.

[divideby0]

^ totally agreed, who is the nitwit who gave you a DA....

thats the big reason I bought BC2 for my 360 (+ party chat since the game is chat gimped)

for some reason, most of those I play online with are buying the PS3 version of RDR..

[gamingisnotacrime]

good for 360. I was watching someone playing it at GameStop on a PS3 it looks phenomenal, i was more than pleased with the PS3 version i saw

[R_aVe_N]

Well both versions look bad really considering how far games have come. So we are fighting over which one of the bad looking games look best? It in no way reflects how the game plays. Stop being babies and enjoy the dang game already!

[Mr Lahey]

Have you not read one review of this game? I think most of the reviews state that this is one of the best looking games yet this generation considering the sheer size of it!

[R_aVe_N]

I don't read reviews... I play games! It is in no way one of the best looking games this generation. It does indeed look better than GTA4, but that is not saying a lot.

[FlipMode]

Good thing i don't care about resolution

[angeleau]

deja vu anyone ?

[ceedubya9]

I think that the reason most reviews aren't mentioning the differences is because they aren't really big enough to talk about. If you can only tell by playing the games side by side or going back and forth, then the differences must be minimal. Its obviously not a big deal overall, but good to know for those that have both consoles and actually care.

[breakdancefight]

Alan Wake is a great looking game even with lower res textures. What Alan Wake lacks is originality. I have played this game once before. I believe it was called Alone in the dark. Transpose the gameplay from East to West Coast and the frame work is exactly the same. Here is the punchlist:Amnesia (check),possession(check), enemies that can only be killed byconventional weopons after exposure to fire/light(check), poor driving section(check) and faux TV episode set-up,"last time on Alone in the dark/A.Wake." If Alone in the dark had been a huge hit like Eden/Atari had hopes everyone would called foul along time ago, but very little mention has been made of this oversight.

[MGRogue2017]

I don't know.. I mean, The Xbox 360 can get the RROD/E74 at anytime & without warning, That really isn't the sort of console I want to buy & play through the game on, regardless of myself owning one.

I want to play this game without any worries of my system breaking down.. I'd say that buying the game for the PS3 is a more wise choice in my opinion

[Gamer_89]

are review it and say that the ps3 version is bad let me think if it was bad why dint ign or gametrailers or gamespot or other big sites mention it . this site and others just want to have some hits

[ps3best]

they said ps3 looked quite good that is good enough for me

also i get ps3 exclusives 360 players will never have EVER

[iistuii]

I'm a 360 player and i play PS3 exclusives on ........my PS3.You see Both consoles = best versions at all times.You get to choose the best version of a multiformat and play the exclusives on the said console. Easy really.

[CernaML]

"Here's another reason to buy the game for the Xbox 360: if you dislike playing with strangers, there are 16 Ars Technica members in the game's thread playing online with the 360 version, compared to three on the PS3. If you're going to be playing, sign up!"

Hahahaha

[bunfighterii]

Why can't devs make equal copies?

[mittwaffen]

Well; I knew the PS3 has a GPU thats roughly 3/4th the rendering power of the 360, and has Vertex/Pixel Shader where the Xbox has Unified (meaning 100% of the gpu can be used at all times)

This game isnt very CPU heavy and I think this is one of the rare times the Xbox actually has an edge in pure GPU brute force and when its CPU isnt limiting it. It could be a contributing factor, ontop of the engine perhaps not being designed for threading rendering to offload GPU work to the Cell.

Email Rockstar; get their 10 cents.

[Koneesha]

what this article says. I am getting the Ps3 version cause that's what I have. If it is a great game with fun game play, and high repeatability then it is good for me.

[DigitalAnalog]

-End statement

[vandal GAB]

I just hope the RDR has a better frame rate and less pop up than GTA4!

[The_Zeitgeist]

I just don't understand how and why this type of thing keeps happening. We are all aware that the PS3 is a graphical powerhouse and I don't see why third party developers haven't stepped it up yet. It's like they always want to take the easy way out and lead design with the 360. I guess as a business decision that makes some sense because of the technology, but it doesn't gain them any respect within the industry or from gamers.

[Master of Unlocking]

"Here's another reason to buy the game for the Xbox 360: if you dislike playing with strangers, there are 16 Ars Technica members in the game's thread playing online with the 360 version, compared to three on the PS3"

Just...unbelieavable.Where will M$ and their retarded fanboys stop with the F.U.D? As evidenced by this article,which should have been called "How to further lose whatever was left of your credibility in 1.2 seconds *for dummies*",which is really the only proper headline that comes to mind when you read that fanboy drivel some of you refer to as a credible source to know which version to get; the PS3 version is the one to get for the extras.If there was a technical difference,believe me,the reviews would have mentioned it,as SCE never gets a free pass from them.
But dang, it's really unbelievable how predictable and plain dumb those american M$ c*ck-sucking fanboys who run all those garbage websites are. One would expect them to at least try and pretend they're objective,but w/e.Fanboys ..-_-

[Moonboots]

Are you saying Ars Technica is a paid for MS site?? Really?

Even though Ars has done nothing but compliment the PS3 on its superior hardware?

I read a lot of weird comments here but Ars is anything but biased or paid off.

Just look through Ars Technica and you will find a lot of quality stuff and better than %90 of the amateur sites I've read here the last couple days.

You just sound mad because you don't like the results TBH.

[galmi]

People need to stop being fanboys and start being gamers, let it be ur ability to play and be ethe best not what console has the best graphics and all that crap, in the end, regardless of how much graphics a game has, it all comes down to gameplay, if it looks good and the mechanics are messed up then it amounts to nothing, we all need to grow up stop being fanboys when in the end we all spend money while these corporations make money off us.

[Information Minister]

It started with Bayonetta on PS3. Then it was Splinter Cell Conviction, FF XIII and Alan Wake on 360. Now it's Red Dead Redemption on the PS3. And that's just this year alone! No one remembers where it began. We have fanboys on both camps accusing each other of hypocrisy. We have people saying sub-HD is crap this week, when it wasn't two weeks ago and vice-versa. And for the love of me, I can't remember when graphics became more important than gameplay.

A great looking game today won't look so great in 10 years time. A game that plays great today, will always be fun to play.

[hoops]

Now SOME people dont care about GRAPHICS LOL
Oh the hypocrisy

[ironmonkey]

getting it for ps3 cause everyone i know is. if i want amazing graphics ill play uncharted 2 or killzone.

[lonix]

free version is superiorzzz

[AngryTypingGuy]

I really don't think the differences are that big a deal, but it's nice to see articles like this to remind the PS3 fanboys that the 360 still packs quite a punch.

[jessupj]

Actually it reminds us that developers can still get it wrong, after how many years?

But yes, the 360 can still handle its self.

[Moonboots]

It's a tough choice since 1 has a bit of extra content and one seems to perform better.

Seems like you can't go wrong with either version.

Is there a place on N4G that keeps score of these things? I notice a score by the user is that for how many times your platform of choice has a better story published for it?

You would think everyone is playing for a billion dollars with how serious they take all this gaming/hobby stuff. I guess it is a game in and of itself.

[Morituri]

The only people that this article would remotely matter to are those who own both consoles, in which case the consumer should just go with the choice that better suits their needs. The choices are between a bit more content and slightly better graphics. Either way, anyone who is not in this particular situation should just shut their traps because if you only own one console and plan on getting RDR then guess what-You're getting it for that one console. Go play the friggin game and stop gloating/complaining.

[divideby0]

I keep reading about jaggies.. I have yet to see any and I have been looking... If the game is upscaled by the TV, I wonder if its the TV creating the jaggies.... On a 40" XBR 9 there are no jaggies.. Now graphically I am not blown away as I thought I was going to be..

[jessupj]

This is quite disappointing. Differences this big (if what they say is true) should not be happening these days, especially with a top tier developer like rockstar. RDR is my most anticipated game this year and it really saddens me they couldn't get the PS3 version up to par.

Like a few are saying, I wouldn't be surprised if they exclusive content is to make up for a graphically inferior product.

[commander]

GO FUCK YOURSELF

[SpinalRemains138]

Commander, why are angry with ARS Tech rather than Rockstar? Why shoot the messenger? Rock* gimped the game.

[devilhunterx]

Its funny to watch all the x-fans come out of the woodwork to talk about the few extra pixels. Wonder where they were hiding during the Final Fantasy 13 fiasco eh?

[Solotov]

probably because FFX13 was such a disappointment. All everyone was talking about was the failure of the game itself, not which version was a better version of crap.

[Solotov]

The 360's more powerful GPU is helping for this game. The PS3's RSX GPU is most likely the culprit. Some games rely more on GPU than the CPU

[stonecold1]

more powerful than 360 heavy rain uncharted 2 didnt cliffy b say 360 hardware was maxed out 2 years ago

[fuzion17c]

for a Lens of Truth comparison.

[rekof]

maybe,.. but the console is a piece if shit ,.. so?

[mopground]

"Here's another reason to buy the game for the Xbox 360: if you dislike playing with strangers, there are 16 Ars Technica members in the game's thread playing online with the 360 version, compared to three on the PS3. If you're going to be playing, sign up!"
- renders this article pretty much useless
and also to the people commenting about the sales theyve seen...ive also have gone to 3 different game stores today with the ps3 version sold out and in one they had two full shelves of 360s left

[Pika-pie]

Still waiting for Lens

[UziSuicide]

I remember hearing how GTA IV was better on the 360, I believed it until I bought it myself and was shocked at the level of pop up.

I'll take this with a grain of salt, article is written very poorly and typical Ars 'look at me' junk.

[rbrtchng]

Isn't this just some guy pulling out fanboy flamebait out of his own ass?

[Bluemayhem]

What is all this kiddie ranting. How about people stay objective 360 fans pls stop fueling the fire and ps3 fans pls stop insulting the other side its not their fault that the 360 version looks a little better.

For what it is worth, I am multi console owner as such it damn well is important to know which version is better.
I wanted to get it for PS3 but know seeing that the 360 version seems slightly better am having my doubts. However considering the fact that my xboxlive ran out on the 12th May and in order to play online i would have to renew the online fee, I would much rather now get the ps3 version as a minor graphical disadvantage is not worth paying additionally to play online.So PS3 version it is this time!

People is it so hard not trying to sound like 12 year old pri**s!

Rgds and have fun whichever version you choose.

[SnakePlissken]

Some people are gonna say PS3 version looks better, others will say 360 looks better. When in all reality theyre going to both look exactly the same. I see no antialiasing and if you want more saturation or contrast for deeper and richer colors, you can adjust under display options in the game! Jesus, who are these wacky posters?

[ReBurn]

Typical ad hominem stuff. "I don't like the content, so the author is no longer credible." Ars Technica wrote what they saw. The best thing to do is try the game for yourself and make up your own mind.

[awi5951]

Because of the streaming tech in the 360 its one of the advatages 360 has over ps3. Thats always been known its in the tech sheets. If more developers actually used the crap and the lossless compression no one uses it though its unreal everything this generation and it sucks.

[Claudinho69]

and fallout 3, ff13,ratchet and clank says other wise

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I will give you FF13 for your counter, but you get minus points for Fallout 3 as it does run better on the 360, minus points for missing the obvious Oblivion argument as it clearly was better running on the PS3 and a big fail for even bringing up Rachet and Clank in this argument.

[Claudinho69]

have u played fallout 3 on ps3 pretty sure u didnt.....didnt mentioned oblivion cause i only state known facts i dont make make up stuff like a fanyboy therefor cause i didnt play it i didnt mention it...and ratchet and clank was brought up because its graphix would melt the 360..

[labwarrior]

The difference is huge, PS3 looks extremely blurry and all detail is lost

[awi5951]

The reason is money how much money did killzone 2 cost that has to be the most expensive game ever to make. What did it cost to make like from 40 to 45 mill to make that game. Come on if you give a talented dev like bungie that kind of cash anyone could make a game like killzone 2 on xbox but when you can make a game like gears 2 for 10 mil using the unreal engine why spend the extra cash just to make graphic whores happy. The fact is xbox games look find doing it the cheap ass unreal way and thats why 360 games dont look any better. They are cheaper to make, they sell more and you can port it easy to the pc. They will choose the easy way everytime.

[Dorwrath]

Who cares, enjoy the game whichever console your buying it for.

As for the guy who asked what multi console owner would turn down the PS3 version with xtra content for the 360. A a small side mission and an outfit isn't going to persuade me to buy it for the PS3. Most of my friends have a 360 and a mic, I can chat with my friends while playing.

Also I dislike the PS3 controller and dumb ass trigger buttons.

[Claudinho69]

is just means the developers are lazy, got paid by microsoft or are not on the level of other developers......it has been has been proven

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Did you really just call Rockstar a lazy developer? Good Lord...how many duckets you wanna bet when your "exclusive" Agent game from Rockstar comes out you will be praising them as the next best thing?

Get real!

[Ma1nframe]

As usual, the PS3 version looks better.

Nuff said.

[mochi]

PS3 is over
PS3 is over
PS3 is over
PS3 is over
PS3 is over

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Man the PS3 fanboys get all rilled up when something doesnt look as good as a competitor. I know the 360 fanboys get equally defensive. It's just more fun to see the PS3 fanboys go to defense given this site is flooded with them. Makes for more explosive conversation/denials. :)

Get the game on either system...you will enjoy it.

[jamenees]

with this crap, i'm switching back and forth between the two right now and I can plainly see the PS3 version is better. What the hell is wrong with some people?

[kwiseguy]

It's so funny that as soon as a multi-platform game comes out there has to be comparison to see whether it looks better on the xbox 360 or ps3; there is no game on xbox that looks even as good as killzone 2 and thats just a start. I hope that by this everyone in the gaming world realize that the ps3 is the more powerful system technically and graphically. its a fact that there is no game on the xbox that can come even close...lets compare first party titles...ok get my point.

[Kahvipannu]

...some people own both consoles, and they want to know if there is some differences in them? But yes, your right, games that has nothing to do with RDR, talking about them here makes total sense.

[kwiseguy]

I use to own a xbox 360; so i'm not a sony fanboy...facts are just facts.

[kwiseguy]

however I cannot deny that when it comes to some multi-platform games and third party games they do look better on the xbox 360.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Lots of haters on N4G all of a sudden. Who really cares about this or that version? I'm loving the PS3 version and wouldn't have it any other way.

[P_Bomb]

That whole "if you don't like playing with strangers play with us on the 360" jab by ARStechnica was kinda pointless. Yeah, because PS3 and 360 owners don't have their OWN friends, they only bought the game in hopes that gamertag "McLovinurmum123" would maybe...just maybe...invite them in for a round or two with the superstars at ARStechnica, who I hadn't even heard of until yesterday. lol. Wow, what an honor.

[snipes101]

Who the hell cares?

[CRAIG667]

your all sad ! just enjoy the game on your console of choice and stop whining like 7 year old girls.

[blakstarz]

well, its not like its running in 540P like SC:Conviction and 576P like Alan Wake its clocked at 644P so its barely noticeable...but even the two games I mentioned above still look damn good and if this type of news never leaked, no one would really care, so I don't see all the fuss...plus if you have a damn good HDTV you probably won't even really notice anyway....at least R* was kind enough to give the PS3 exclusive content: Solomon’s Folly Gang Hideout and Walton Gang Outfit. So it all works out.