The Console Wars Round 11 The Future

The ‘Console Wars’ are back, and this time LP has future features in his sights. It’s been a long and hard fought road, with the Xbox and PS3 each throwing some serious punches and the score a very close 5-4. With only one round to go after this, the PS3 can lock it up if it wins, or the Xbox can make a comeback and tie this bloody battle up. Project Natal, PlayStation Move, Xbox Live, and PSN all feature prominently in this round as we look at the future potential of each console. LP has crafted a fine masterpiece, so sit back, relax, and watch the future unfold.

[Godmars290]

Microsoft has Natal and 2nd level 3D support specifically for game.

Sony has Move and 1st level 3D support for games as well as movies.

Basically I see the PS3 continuing its slow edge ahead.

[Imperator]

MS is all but finished. In fact, were it not for the 1 year head start it would have been far behind at this point.

[kaveti6616]

Microsoft is finished? You are aware, of course, that Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar corporation and that the 360 is but one small and relatively insignificant source of revenue for them right?

If Microsoft was willing to make an Xbox 360 after losing 9 billion dollars on the original Xbox, what the hell makes you think they would drop the 360 now when they're actually making profit on it?

The one year headstart on the 360 is not something to be criticized. Rather it was a business strategy that appears to have paid off for the 360 because despite the RROD fiasco the 360 is still selling well. Microsoft most likely weighed the cost-benefit ratio and decided it was in their favor to launch the 360 prematurely and risk the reliability issues.

Do not bring Microsoft down to your amateur level. You're talking about one of the large corporations in the world. Give them some credit.

[ForROME]

Dumb as door nails you are kid

[Pillville]

"MS is all but finished"

No, but I would say that Xbox 360 over the hill. But it will have a lasting stay, the same way the PS2 has had.

The PS3 I think is still climbing, so It's hard to tell what it's going to do.

The Wii has flatlined, it's not getting any better, but it's not going anywhere either.

[DarkSpawnClone]

@ kavet6616 that argument could work both ways both Sony and ms are billion dollar corporation's ones more focused on software and the other on hardware,i agree its a brilliant strategy i would defiantly want my console to have a head start on the compilation if ever was a head of a big corporation,but i have to say i really agree with Godmars290 about Sony having more "1st level 3D support for games" that could mean a big victory for Sony if they play there cards right,i think ape escape will be the best motion control game so far but thats again my opinion also I'm a huge ape escape fan and can not wait for a new one!!! day one buy for me i really miss that game!!

[SaberEdge]

The fact is, we don't know what impact 3D or motion controls are going to have for either console. It's all conjecture at this point. I think we just need to wait and see how things pan out.

[Trey_4_life]

The difference is games, the 360 only has a few good games if you can call halo good that is. PS3 on the other hand has had the GOTY for the last 3 years running and is over flowing with AAA ground breaking world class titles.

360 really needs more good games to compete with the ps3 in terms of qaulity, in terms of sales they are doing great.

[DJexs]

I see the opposite Natal is pretty much a supped up eye toy. From the tech demos it is laggy and cannot even recognize it right. Also tech buffalo sucks because he is bias he would give every round to xbox if he wasn't trying to keep readers. He even says that PSN cannot even sound better than XBL because that would be wrong for the playstation's online features to be better then xbox's and he is also right be reinforcing almost all his points with rumors. He is also trying hard to not piss anyone off but we can all see the xbot. This applies to all the articles the only reason he gave the ps3 any wins is like I said earlier he doesn't want to loose readers by showing off his xbot.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Besides some of the rounds, will be outdated soon. And he will need to REmade those rounds.

I assume he is based by speculations and not from experience with the motion controllers.

[DJexs]

I doubt he will remake the outdated rounds. But you are right he definitely should.

[ImmortalLegend]

He has a right to his own opinion rather you agree or not. I don't see him as an Xbot at all because I watched all of the console war videos. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean you can just accuse him of being a Xbot. Just saying...it seems like nobody can have an opinion when it comes to video games lol.

[Tony-A]

I think it's quite obvious that he had to give the round to the 360. If the PS3 were to win, what would be the point of having one more round? Either way, the PS3 was going to win.

Anyways, this round didn't seem to be about the future much at all. It was more about which motion controller was cooler to him and which online service offered more, which I believe was already covered in a previous video.

If you want to make a round about the future, make it about motion as well as games, hardware, value and 3D among other things. In a round about the future, you need to compare what both will be like in the future.

He talked about the games from launch, but not the future. Will DVD9 still be enough down the road? Will Blu-Ray continue to grow, therefore making the PS3 more appealing, or will the Blu-Ray standalones take over? Will the PRICE of both motion controllers play into who buys what?

[HolyOrangeCows]

This guy is incredibly lenient on the 360 and forgets to mention half of he Ps3's qualities in his videos.

Before watching:
Ps3:
-Exclusive HD games
-Viable medium of motion control
-3D and other new technologies
360:
-A few exclusives, mostly sud-HD
-Limited, laggy motion control (And possibly almost $200, if the 3+ sites' prices were accurate
-Lack of new technologies

The 360 has flat-lined, and a camera isn't going to change that.
The Ps3 is actually evolving.

[ChozenWoan]

So true.

Also, this guy should have waited one month to compile this round. With E3 just weeks away, much about the future of both consoles will be announced very shortly. Especially since 50% of what MS claimed Natal will be able to do last E3, we now know technically that it's not possible.

As for software, 1st party beats 3rd anyday. Sony wins that battle hands down. Not to mention that supporting the PSMove is just a simple step from the Wii, which most 3rd party devs already have experience with. But it is what it is and he knew he was blowing smoke up everyone's posterior, thus the disclaimer at the beginning.

Ohh... and did anyone else notice the choice of PS4/Xbox720 concepts that where used for this piece. Is it just me or did they really just use the lamest PS4 concept on the net. The minute I saw it I knew who they where giving this round to.

[UltraNova]

He based the future of both consoles solely on online? Is this guy serious? Where are the games? Where is blu-ray's future growth? and dvd9's crippling march to the future?

The ps3 is actually the no brainer future proof system here but he just had to give that point to the 360 to tie things up so he can keep round 12 relevant and get some hit-points.

Weak stuff indeed..

[Hank Hill]

*Puts popcorn in microwave*

[D4RkNIKON]

Haha I feel the same way. I love these reviews!

[Zeevious]

As much as I hate to admit it, there is a Guilty Pleasure to these kinds of reviews...like watching Josie & the Pussycats the Movie* or Kick Ass.

It's 1/2 for the article and 1/2 for the reactions.

*remember, Blue is the new Orange...Join the Army.

[jambabie69]

nintendo saved it hank redneck. sony copies ninty's every move. microsoft knew last gen ps2's suckage point- online gaming.

you ps3 fanboys underestimate anything, just like sony has, abd look who's fighting- SONY.

blu ray and all that was crap. the next gen for consoles was online, like the pc, and micro still stomps on that.

keep thinking they didnt "innovate" fuckin ps3 fanboy, get ya shit str8 and like i said dreamcast was micro so try again!

[ape007]

and I can safely say that these comparisons are the best

[willie6289]

I agreed up until the point where he said that ps3 couldn't match xbox because of facebook and twitter and last fm. all of which ps3 had from launch on the internet browser.

*actually not sure about last FM i use Pandora instead. same diff.

and he conveniently forgets to mention the fact that we have no hands on any of this future tech. but like someone else said, xbox had to win this "future" round so that he would have a reason for the next round.

[Epicor]

This is easily the best 360vsPs3 comparison in the net. Surely LP can't please all the fanboys but to be fair, I think he has done outstanding job in each of his rounds and I agree with the winner at all rounds (and I can admit that I am a Ps3 fan).

Controller: Surely Ps3 has better analogue nubs and digital pad but 360 has better shape and easily better triggers (which is vital). Winner 360.

SKU's: Both have really confusing aproach. Draw.

Hardware: Both consoles look beautiful but Ps3 has way better inputs and outputs + built-in wifi. Ps3 is clear winner!

CPU: 1st party games are the proof - Ps3 has better processor.

GPU: Extremely solid work LP! Really deep review and I can see why 360 is the winner.

User interface: I agree with LP. Speed is a key to succes and Ps3's interface is faster to use.

Online Experience: I don't own 360. I still have to admit that 360's cross game chat and party system beats Ps3's online services. Sure it costs something but I would be more than happy to pay 50-60€ to have better online services. Hopefully PSN Premium membership (if it's ever coming) will top the xbox live and be new champ of online services. At this point, 360 takes the cake.

Media Playback: Easiest round to judge. Ps3 wins by a landslide.

Multi platform games: With the release of FFXIII things are not that simple any more but still I have to admit that most of the older multi platform games look better on 360. Not that big issue any more but still...360 takes the round.

Exclusive games: ME, ME2, Halo3, ODST, Fable2, L4D, L4D2, Forza3, Gears1&2, AW. That's an impressive lineup. Especially AW and Mass Effect series make me wish that I would own 360 as well. Luckily I have MGS4, R2, R&C-series, KZ2, LBP, GOW, HR, U&U2...and future look bright. I'm glad that LP declared Ps3 a winner of a round.

Future: This is hardest round to judge and I think it could have gone either way. I agree that natal seems a bit fresher than move (c'mon, natal is not an eyetoy even so many fanboys would like to think so) but I think move is better for hc gamers. Natal could be just a novelty feature, nothing else. But we have to wait and see. This round should really have gone out after e3! But it's good that 360 won this round as round 12 is going to be epic!

[stonecold1]

the ps3 already has twitter and face book since day 1 where xbox 360 256 players on screen at once no where in sight and another one xbox live you cant surf the web which you already do on ps3 sorry ps3 has the upperhand on this one

[D4RkNIKON]

If you watch his other videos you would know he is not bias.

[Anarki]

It's like he's picking out the good points of the 360 and the bad points of the ps3(which is stupid as most of the points he made the ps3 have had or is better in) just to keep people watching and to even out the scores.

[DJexs]

exactly

[Omar91]

ur right at the fact that ps3 has internet support and 256 players at once, but he did come with some very good comparisons on both the ps3 and 360. to me he is not bias at all. he just listed things that were true and some of his opinions. 360 has a few more features and the online may be a bit superior. but of course your paying 50 bucks a year so there has to be some significant improvement over your competitor.
ps3 has very good online connectivity. i wish the psn felt more like a community (and no dont mention home) but overall ps3 does what i need it to do the most. play games.

[ImmortalLegend]

I agree that this is a flaw with his comparisons, but I've watched the other videos and he doesn't seem biased to me.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

This guy will need to REmade that round about PSN and Live, when PSN Premium comes out.

And I bet both consoles will have the same points when the rounds are over, tie.

[RedPawn]

Steam comes out of the suits cracks.

Initialize

[iPad]

The Console Wars Round 11: Motion Controls.

Me personally, Sony/PS3 wins because of the hardware. Seriously, just asks yourself this.

Imagine a PS3 exclusive game on its 8th year.

[dizzleK]

imagine the fact that in the eighth year even the shovelware will surpass uncharted 2 and gow 3 visuals lol. they look amazing now but in 5 years they'll look like launch titles.

[Hotel_Moscow]

gtfo with this round 1-10 were awesome 11 was just straight bias how do you judge something you know nothing about

as well as the fact that things can come out anyday that changes that whole perception overall useless round which is inspired to fuel fanboy debates

[frankymv]

xbox 720 will launch in fall 2011

with halo reach this fall and gears 3 in april 2011(MS's 2 biggest franchises), expect the announcement at e3 2011.

PS3 may get an extra year but not sure of this..they may launch day and date with MS as well. Both companies will move toa two console strategy with current consoles for the casual market and next gen for the hardcore.

There will always be plenty of early adopters that will buy at launch.

[D4RkNIKON]

I will not be buying at launch.. I agree with you tho

[Hotel_Moscow]

thing is unlike when every other generation of consoles there no rumours going around

[frankymv]

Do a little research

[Hotel_Moscow]

did researcg no rumours most of these rumours and the rumours that are out are from 2008 i mean come on larrabee

[Inside_out]

New console for 360 in 2012...Expect Sony and Nintendo to do the same....M$ definitely wants to come out first again...The big slip up was when Epic said no more Gears this gen, then Crytec came out with there new console game engine and made Epic respond...that fight is just getting started...also, M$ is working on the next Natal already...oooOPs...what happen to all those articles....Hmmmm...just disappeared...lol...New machine announced at E3 2011 for holiday 2012...Expect a new Halo and Gears at launch...using Unreal 4...you heard it here first...

[colonel179]

I would expect a new Xbox announcement at next year's E3, to launch Winter 2011, also the next Nintendo console. I'm not sure about Sony, but my guess would be that by 2012 we will have the next PlayStation.

MS is in a very rough position right now. Even with the great exclusives (or "exclusives") that they're releasing this year, I think that they are launching Natal as a test for the next console. I don't think that MS would be launching Halo 4 for the 360, but I also don't think they will wait too much to release it, and they are running out of exclusive AAA franchise to do for the 360. I don't expect them to release sequel after sequel to compete with Sony, when their hardware is really showing its age.

Nintendo will be ready to launch their next console because everybody has been asking for a Wii HD, and since they have already won most of the casual market, they will be able to launch by next year with improved hardware.

Sony on the other hand, seems like they are just starting, they have always had 10 year plans, and even if the Move fails, I think that they have the game studios to still make exclusive games for the PS3 like the moved never happened, and that is if the move fails, if it doesn't they have plenty of chance to launch later. I personally think that Sony will launch earlier only if the next Xbox or the next Nintendo console does something innovative that would force them out.

[TrailerParkSupervisr]

Mortgage the damn house if I have to. FDP for both next-next gen consoles.

[Anarki]

I'm sorry to say but I find this abit bullshit. After watching through the majority of his videos and finding them pretty fair, I find this particular one abit bullshit. It's almost like he's trying to even out the scores to keep people watching.

[thehitman]

comparison but this guy seemed a little uniformed on the ps3 side like he doesnt have 1. PS3 already has facebook integration allows updates on trophy info that he said wont happen until this fall and it has a browser since day 1 so facebook always been available via ps3 as well as twitter and every other site youtube etc. Also I dont see how he used the subcription fee as an excuse for MS to get better features for xbl when on top of the subscription fee they want to charge more subscription fees to use extra services. I believe Sony will give xgame chat as a free service via firmware update I dont see how they could implement a feature like that and leave it out as a pay service when their features are integrated into the O/S.

[Mista T]

lol this is never gonna end, let me guess, the PS3 wins the next round and then the xbox wins the round after that....

but this is a good way to get hits from the fanboys :P

[Anarki]

The next one is the last round.

[Mista T]

oh thanks, didn't know that. I just skip to the end

[A change in the wind]

I`m sorry, but the brutal truth is that the PS3 has a much brighter future, and will be remembered as something much greater than the Xbox 360, and the main reason is the games. Let`s be frank here, the 360`s exclusive lineup absolutely pales in comparison to the PS3`s. The exclusives that are supposed to give consoles character are extremely shallow and forgettable on the 360, side from maybe Mass Effect and Fable. You know the future is bleak for the 360 when it consists of Gears 3 and Halo: Reach. Yeah, Sony has made some mistakes this generation, but they`re providing gaming on an entire different level, such that no PC, 360 or Wii can reach.

[AK46]

Wow! that was bad, and when does online services prolong the future? He did not even say that you can implement 3D-HD with Move to create a unique experience that no other console can do. I can tell you the 360 aint more future proof than the PS3.

[nnotdead]

i find this episode to be awfully thought out. just so much wrong with it.

1.MGS4 "only sold ok." 5 million copys is now, just ok, but this is just a minor issue that shouldn't really effect who wins or loses the round. just makes you look uninformed.

2.the DLC comment. BatmanAA and Red Dead have exclusive DLC on PS3, and both are big games. im not sure who will get more/better DLC in the future, but i am sure only looking looking at 360 DLC makes you look either bias or uninformed again.

3. Natal vs Move. more is known about Move in terms of tech and games coming out. Natal has Ricochet and a laggy Burnout demo. if you're going on what the Natal could be then why can't the PSN premium get bigger consideration?

[CernaML]

You know what I noticed about exclusive DLC? Pretty much all of the "exclusive" DLC that comes out for a 360 multiplatform game always ends up on the PS3 sooner or later. And as far as I know, all of the exclusive content that PS3 multiplatform games get have yet to appear on the 360.

[The real killer]

"Microsoft is finished? You are aware, of course, that Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar corporation and that the 360 is but one small and relatively insignificant source of revenue for them right?"

It sound you speak about amateur level, if you say that Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar corporation and thinks Microsoft has allot of money it doesn't mean that Microsoft has allot of money and stil the fail. If people buying stuff from Microsoft, those people has no idea what Microsoft doing those people fooled bu mislead BY Microsoft, and that's why you are amateur, money say nothing right? Ans yes, for a multi billion company can't even buy Yahoo.

"If Microsoft was willing to make an Xbox 360 after losing 9 billion dollars on the original Xbox, what the hell makes you think they would drop the 360 now when they're actually making profit on it?"

Becouse, Microsft hire people to make or develop the X-box. and that's is far cheaper than make them self. They don't have own production after 9 Billion dollars, so long if Windows with unfair competition with stolen windows from Amiga back than you can call Microsoft are thiefs, we all know that Amiga starts with Windows first and with those pattent no one has the right make windows, only Linux is holding back becouse of the pattens what Microsft has and so long if Microsoft make money on windows they support the X-box division and try defeat Sony or Nintendo what never goning to happend.

I doubt, if they make profit.

"The one year headstart on the 360 is not something to be criticized. Rather it was a business strategy that appears to have paid off for the 360 because despite the RROD fiasco the 360 is still selling well. Microsoft most likely weighed the cost-benefit ratio and decided it was in their favor to launch the 360 prematurely and risk the reliability issues"

O, no what is it? The headstart by fooling people millions of people un-aware that Microsoft play dirty game with those RODD/Scrats/E74 ERROR/Noise DVD player and make people fool that the 360 is a Full HD console and you think it's not be criticized..........that's sounds like a amateur answer to me.

It was a filty and garbage strategy by fooling people and give people false information about the specifications for the 360, and believe me they nkow that.

"Do not bring Microsoft down to your amateur level. You're talking about one of the large corporations in the world. Give them some credit"

Speak for yourself with your amateur behavior, even Microsoft is big it doesn't mean they deserve it by fooling people and play dirty with money giving to 3 party developers behind the back from other players.

That's dirty work, and you say "give them some credit" funny guy you are.

[Colonel-Killzone]

OMG he was being such a god damn fanboy. Why when he said console games suck when the consoles first released and all he showed was lair and i believe heavenly sword. I haven't had a problem with any of the rounds so far except this one he was being a fanboy though. He should of just shown both bad games and good games for both console. He was taking so much jab at the ps3 for no reason but its w.e end of the day its what every individual thinks about their console of their choosing.

[Godmars290]

All I want to hear now is what a paid PSN has to offer, and will anything in addition be coming to non-"premium" PSN users as a result.

there's already the MBL.TV app for example, and I doubt its use is going to stop there.

[MajestieBeast]

The future the 360 uses dvd9 which has been holding games down ever since 2008 how does it win round 11 when we all know this,the round was extremely biased IMO.

[AK46]

I agree. Maybe he felt he had to be biased to even it out and prolong his series of rounds, which is bad journalism.

[KratosGod3]

So the 360 want to win the war by providing the best Online experience and improve the online and the online and the online mmmmm.
In the other hand the PS3 is working on better online experience and quality exclusive games. In my opinion we "the gamers" want more quality games from our console brand.

[Colonel-Killzone]

I know funny he mentions lets talk about the future but he talking about what the xbox has now lmfao he contradicts himself its to funny bubbles for the amazing post.

[Ravage27]

either he lacked time to make a full compilation of the features for comparison, or he simply wants the 360 to win so he can make another episode

[dizzleK]

how can a console whose format has been holding back gaming since the launch of the ps3, win jack s**t? if you don't think 6.8 gigs is holding back modern gaming when something like killzone uses 2+ gigs per level, then youre high. we will never know how badly multiplat games have suffered this gen due to sheer lack of space (im not talking graphics, i'm talking content/length).

[gumgum99]

failed episode is fail.

[Rhythmattic]

This post by beardedndragon on techbuffalo made beer go through my nose..

Its starts like this.

"This board is so PS3 fanboy contaminated...
Seriously, either way there was no chance for the PS3 to win this round. "

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

For one talking about facebook, the PlayStation 3 has an internet browser and was able to install linux operating systems for better browsing. They didn’t mention that the PS3 has a read-only blu-ray technology making it the cheapest upgradable blu-ray player on the market. Nothing about PS Home being a social network (hence the XBOX facebook), motion control demos, and the list goes on.

That’s gaming journalism for you, always leaving out the important bits. Anyone who has been a follower will know what I’m talking about, but making sense on this website makes you a Sony Fanatic? Call me a Sony Fanatic if you want, I just don't see a platform that only has DVD9 technology lasting too long especially when they are designed for gaming.

[devilSPAWN1977]

once the PSN premium service comes out, xbox live will be over and done with

[devilSPAWN1977]

round 11 and every other round to Sony