Why Id's RAGE is going to suck

RAGE is id Software's latest project, in which John Carmack gets to display his newest graphics engine, ID Tech 5. People are excited about it, but Bobby Miller is pretty sure that RAGE is going to suck.

[RankFTW]

id, nuf said.

[toaster]

iD? One of the most influential developers of all time? The creators of classic and revolutionary games like Wolfenstein and Doom? The developer of Quake, the FPS game that put online multiplayer on the map?

Yeah, I can see why this game is going to suck.

[Bereaver]

Things come, and things go.

That's the way that life is.

Just because they've made good stuff in the past, doesn't mean they are going to do it again.

[Trey_4_life]

This is my cats reaction to the article title......

http://images.cheezburger.c...

NUFF SAID.

[darkmurder]

Pfft hwat a bitter article, there hasn't even been any gameplay and the article suggests its going to suck. Considering ID's previous record I can guarantee it won't - article looking for hits.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Actually It's more Logical to think RAGE will be Great since
it is ID doing it, usually the only ones who disrespect ID and there games are the ones who were just babies in the Doom days.

I Remember me and my friend hooking both our TV's and PS1's up playing Doom 2 Together, we'd spend hours and hours non stop killing each other, was a blast!, I'd see the action on my TV, he'd see it on his, we used the PS Link cable.

Doom 64 was a blast to!, so anyone who Bashs Doom and ID have literally no Idea what they are talking.

[Bereaver]

Wow, look at all my disagrees?

Did I say anything about RAGE going to suck? No, I didn't say it.

I was just trying to get you guys to open your eyes.

It probably won't suck, but in all things fair, I don't think that it will be as influential as Doom was in it's time. I don't think it will even be close.

But yeah, I doubt it will suck.

[Mo0eY]

I agree. Things come and go... look at 2D Arcade fighters and beat-em-ups. Now we have Ubisoft releasing a Teenage Mutant NInja Turtles Turtles in Time remake, and it was nowhere near as perfect as the original... what made that game? The 2D artstyle. Same goes for the new Rocket Knight game (though I will still buy it simpy because I loved the original games).

All of these games mentioned (Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, etc) were great in the past, but what have the developers done that's so great in today's gamers' eyes? Nothing. You cannot simply live on your greatest hits forever (look at Atari as a good example - the harbinger of old classic games that just couldn't cut the mustard in today's world). You simply just cannot let the past carry you to a next generation. You have to adapt, survival of the fittest if you will, or you won't make it. The Beatles learned to adapt to the ever-changing world around them and look how they turned out...

I love to hang on a needle of hope just as much as the next guy, but developers such as iD and Rare have caused me to realize that some things just need to be let go.

[ThanatosDMC]

Bubbles for your progressive thinking cuz it holds so much truth. I completely agree with you.

[champ21]

@toaster

Dont expect the console crowd to know anything about those games.

@Bereaver

had it not been for ID, Epic, Valve

3D gaming might not have progressed as fast as it did back in the late 90's early 2000's

[edhe]

id had their heyday. Since quake 3 they've done very little of note.

Epic have leapfrogged them, and valve, and many others. Here's hoping Rage puts them back on the map and makes them worth their legacy again.

[FangBlade]

"xbox360 version is gonna out shine the out dated pc any given day,u pc nerds need to realise pc gaming is over Alan Wake looks like DX12 game and u lot are stuck with DX11 talk about last gen."

lol

[kharma45]

Quality lol There really are some idiots around

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Perhaps a tinge of sarcasm? I'm not too sure though.

[Theonetheonly]

I didnt stealth troll.
Alan Wake is a good game but the hype killed it. #1.2.1
2d ago by FangBlade | View comment

You have some IQ issues.

you have no idea of what you speak. Absolutely no idea.

HAHAHA

[P1NKY]

Why did I get voted as "Trolling"?

I was just explaining how that comment was stupid. Im not some blind PS3/Xbox fanboy. I was just telling everyone pure facts and then I get voted as "Trolling"?

Anyway. Based on Developer interviews, Screenshots etc this game looks like it could be quite good. But I can see what the guy was on about. The character models look out of place as they are much more detailed than the environment.

[RankFTW]

Heh it's probably not clear since I have quite a few disagrees, but I mean that it's going to be awesome since it's id.

[MNicholas]

The in-engine screen-shots from the two big PC developers with upcoming console games, Id and Crytek, have been underwhelming, to say the least, and a far cry from the earlier bull-shots that got the fanboys into a tizzy.

I'm waiting to be impressed.

[qface64]

yeah 20 bucks says this is one of those very overhyped games that turns out being lame and or mediocre weve been getting allot of those lately

[Bobbykotickrulesz]

The mass majority of Nintendo Wii games comes to mind.

[mertesn]

But, like other id games, it'll sell like mad regardless of quality.

[MiamiACR]

Bobby Miller is """"" pretty sure""""&a mp;q uot;""

Well Bobby of course you can't be 100% sure, the game isn't even coming out for a good long time and your already passing judgement. Typical flamebait article, and looks like the morons are biting today looking at the comments above me, and later...below me.

[RememberThe357]

They earned their respect and I'm confident that this game will be great. But you guys go ahead and keep hating.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

it comes from a blogger that is too young to write crap he doesn't know about, let alone too young to know who id is and what they contributed to the industry....

[primesuspect]

wahahahahahahahahahahah

*breathe*

wahahahahahaha

I love when people full "facts" out of their ass

[tplarkin7]

IDs art design and story telling was always bad. Rage is not an improvement. It seems like they never replaced the original Doom art designer.

[Bolts]

I just never looked closely at those screens. Maybe they're the console version but the textures looks flat as hell.

[chak_]

whatever

gameplay > *

[Eiffel]

I'm actually looking forward to this game, this reason doesn't change it.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

stupid bloggers..

[Cyb3r]

This article is total BS and the guy who wrote it hasnt even played the game what an idiot

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi__]

WHO??? ;-D

I remember hooking up 2 PS1's + 2 TV's + my mate round and us playing 'DOOM' + 'Final DOOM' ;-P Happy days!!!;)
+ I thought 'Quake 3: Revolution' on the PS2 was brilliant(i was the only 1 who seemed to think that tho, not sure why) The 4 player split-screen mode was 'FUN'(i still play it sometimes) ;)

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

for this (last year?) and thought then it looked a 'must have'. Can't see how the authors 'feeling' justifies the negativity.
Also regarding Borderlands being post-apocalyptic - its set on another world! When I first played Borderlands (great game imho) I could really relate it to the RAGE trailer.

[Epicor]

Don't hate the blogger. He clearly isn't too young like some of you stated (the lamest argument there is - unfortunately it's used all the time here in n4g).

Secondly: Of course he hasn't played the game! This blog post is just mere speculation. That's what most blog post about gaming are all about.

And actually I have also got little concerns whether ID is going to deliver this time or not. The game has been long in development and I'm certainly not too impressed when it comes to story-setting. Screenshots are nice imo, but not astonishing (like I was expecting from this game).

I think this blogger goes a little too far for thinking that RAGE is going to suck! I don't think so. I'm pretty sure RAGE is going to be good or even great game, but I still am a little concerned at this point. And I am damn right entitled to my concerns. That doesn't make the blogger or neither me an ID-hater. I'm still really much looking forward to playing this game. So why all the rage? (sorry for the pun) ;)

[primesuspect]

This comment has been flagged as "too practical" and "too well said". Please tone down the maturity and reasonableness in future posts.

[chak_]

I just hope driving/shooting won't be 50/50, I'd rather shoot at those masked guys than drive around cayons.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I'm a Big ID Fan, I Love Companies that push gaming forward or
takes a gamble, or Tells the world that It's ok to do this.

A Few Companies come to mind.

ID: They created Doom and Quake and other games, they made it ok to play FPS.

Bungie: They expanded the FPS Genre(Halo) and created a huge Multiplayer experience that was fun.

Square Enix: The Kings of RPG's, first they were just Square though, Enix was a seperate company, There Final Fantasy series was always fun and unique(Hated FF8 though LOL).

Naughty Dog: Pushing the boundaries of Graphics (AND) Game play with the amazing Uncharted series.

Nintendo: Sure the Wii is the weakest in power wise of the 3 consoles but they Introduced motion controles to us and I think thats an Incredible thing, also I Have Good flashbacks when I think of Mario and Zelda!, Fun times.

Sony: Always pushing Tech in general forward and seems very comitted to gaming.

Microsoft: yes even them, Putting a hard drive in the XBOX was a great thing, Also Windows was developed by them, not always perfect but hey? every companies IS NOT perfect.

MM: They said it is ok to allow user content and to share it in game ON a console, LBP is fun! and allows the entire family to play it together, They created a new Genre FOR consoles!.

So to say RAGE will suck is like a Blind man saying I can see!, Nothing but props and thumbs up for ID.

EDIT: @ Epicor
If the Blogger did not want to be hated he should not have put his opinion on the Internet.

[chak_]

I'd rather call bioware or even more black isle king of RPG, but that's just me.

There we see difference of jrpg and wrpg :)

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Yes, I said Square Enix from my perspective, Secret of Mana on the SNES was Awesome.

Also I didn't want to name every company that I thought done great for gaming, I'd never have finished writing that post LOL

[cmrbe]

The worst this game can do is average. I really love the mad max look of this game.

[Figboy]

unnecessary this generation.

everyone is so damned cynical and jaded and NEGATIVE all the god damned time.

the game hasn't even RELEASED YET, and people are condemning it.

i mean, if i was a game developer, i'd be DISGUSTED with the herd, sheep mentality gamers have adopted this generation.

i'm going to sound like an old man, but back when i was growing up, we tended to flock to games that we LIKED, not games that we were TOLD to like. Nintendo had excellent marketers, sure, but games like Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Sonic were genuinely awesome, and worth supporting.

the gaming media didn't have this agenda to drive hits to their sites back then. because of that, they were a bit more honest and dignified when reporting the gaming news.

the gaming media this generation is the equivalent of a TABLOID, but there are no gaming equivalents of TIME or PEOPLE to help, at the least, add some class to game coverage.

i remember when game journalists were actually ENTHUSIASTIC about new games. even if the game ultimately ended up sucking, they were truly excited to simply new titles coming, ESPECIALLY new titles from developers as renowned and established as Id.

i can't say whether Rage is going to be good or bad, but i CAN say that i'm looking forward to finding out. it looks promising. i don't need a bullet point list telling me why it's not going to be all that. hell, you can do that with ANYTHING, but why bother to tear down the hard work of another person when you haven't even TOUCHED the finished product yet?

way to go Icrontic, you've just assured that i will never visit your site again if this is the level of "journalism" i can expect.

[aGameDeveloper]

You wrote MY response for me!

[primesuspect]

How on earth is an "op/ed" journalism?

[UPSLynx]

U MAD?

[Figboy]

i'm sick of half-assed, presumptuous journalism.

unless this guy went into the future, played RAGE, and is bringing back his thoughts on it, this article is pointless.

i don't care if the article is negative (i'm not even an Id fan), when there is ACTUALLY something to base that negativity off of. he pretty much created an entire article full of, "it LOOKS," "it SEEMS," "I'm not sure, but XXX doesn't sit right with me."

what LEGITIMATE news source would EVER publish something like this? it's amateur.

[mightydog1]

why dont you wait for id to finnish rage before you pass judgement on it....Talking crap before its out is just silly

[frankymv]

Interesting article

[BABY-JEDI]

It's amazing how the game isn't even released & some SAD case is dumping on it. Look at the guys record you SAD case & wake up & cheer up. Stop trying to make everybody miserable.

[Akagi]

Articles like this gives the gaming collective a bad name. How the hell can you say it's going to suck without witnessing footage of its current build?

[Cajun Chicken]

Actually, this article has a lot I've also been thinking about.

The open world is especially a big change for Id, hope they can pull it off. But I am feeling that RAGE is just something that's been done before.

Can't wait for Doom4 though.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

... is just BS like HHG.

Crystal ball to see the future?

This is stupid

[UPSLynx]

You talkin' crap about HH Gregg???

[Jdoki]

I don't see why this article needs to complain.

Game play beats graphics every time - and no one knows how good the game play is yet. And to me the graphics look atmospheric.

Also, the complaint about post-apocalyptic games being a tired formula... What? Sure we've seen a few more post-apoc games recently - but more games than the wizards and warriors themed games, or near future combat themed games?? I don't think so. Plus the variety in post-apoc games seems pretty huge - you can't really compare Fallout 3's, Bordlerand's, or Metro 2033's settings - they all feel very different.

And complaining about the NAME of the game. C'mon... grasping at straws!

[kraze07]

Damn bloggers.

[sgw_dec0y]

Wow.. iD is one of the leading developers out there. You know your good when you only have to release a game every 5 years and have books written on how influential you were. Stupid bloggers indeed

[N4BmpS]

I hope this guy actually seen this game in action cause a lot of the other gaming journalist said the game looks incredible so I'm questioning this dude's credibility as official journalist but hey everyone entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't I have to respect it.

[ATi_Elite]

I do agree with the point that consoles are dragging down the PC as developers continue to make games across three platforms Gimping the PS3 and PC versions but poor sales will eventually stop the maddness as PS3 PC or 360 exclusives are the only high sellers with the occasional MW2 anamolie.

Make games that take full advantage of each platform for better results and sales you moron developers.

[magicwalnuts]

No noticeable visual difference between the PC and console version? Well obviously the graphics are going to get middled by that. HOWEVER, its not like when Doom 3 came out it was the best looking game out there, the Source engine proved to be much more versatile and long lasting, but Doom 3 was pretty good nonetheless. id is a small developer and they've made 1 game in the past 10 years. They're glory days might be over due to the production values of games this generation but I wouldn't count them out as not being able to make a really good game.

[UPSLynx]

Who is this Bobby Miller? Why should we care about what he says? He plays off his opinion, slaps it on a website, and calls it journalism. What a complete waste of time.

This guy is totally full of it. Hating on the Xbox because it's the "lowest common denominator?" The lowest common denominator is probably Bobby's intelligence.

Frigging pretentious elitist garbage. Go read some poetry in Starbucks with your new Macbook.