Why The 360 Needs LittleBigPlanet

So it was two months ago when Sony acquired Media Molecule, removing almost any hope of seeing LittleBigPlanet 2 on the 360 and immediately prompting us to consider what, potentially, the 360 might have lost. Because suddenly the whole concept of “Play, Create, Share” appealed much more to us.

[hay]

The 360 has the answer for LBP.
It's called Kodu, anyone remember how it was hyped when first LBP was around the corner?

[Barbapapa]

yeah turned into vaporware

[Kr155]

it's not vaporware. its on the market now. under indie games.

[Godmars290]

It says something that the 360 has an answer to LBP and most 360 owners have no idea it exist.

Probably that its missing a central theme to pull it together. Like Sackboy.

[darthv72]

If I recall, MM stated they approached MS first but MS turned them down on the whole idea of user created content.

Bad move on MS part became a good move for sony.

[dangert12]

360 needs alot more platformers having a 360 i miss the hell out of games like mario jack n dexter rachet n clank etc

[Corrwin]

WTF happened to Kodu? It looked quite cool.

[Bibto]

http://fuse.microsoft.com/k...

I like the "programming" aspect of it and it's a fun way to teach programming concepts to kids, but the games creation itself just isn't that great.

[PotNoodle]

Kodu has been out on the marketplace for ages.

And Media molecules acquirement wasn't what removed the chances of LBP on the 360, because the franchise has already been bought up by Sony before the announcement of the original game in 2007.

[Morbid Bulldozer]

Kodu is on the Marketplace, but I think it faced the problem that LBP2 has yet to tackle - creating whole games this way is time consuming and the results are still inferior to available XBLA/PSN games. At some point it's more reasonable to create an indie game via XBLA from scratch than struggle with limitations of so-called "game creator software".

[hatchimatchi]

"At some point it's more reasonable to create an indie game via XBLA from scratch than struggle with limitations of so-called "game creator software"

Comparing little big planet 2 with a marketplace game is pretty silly. Granted LBP2 isn't out yet but media molecule and the LBP community have proved in spades what they are capable of doing, and that was with just a level creator. The community content for LBP2 is going to be absolutely insane.

Incase you didn't know, some people within the LBP online community recreated the entire game of Contra using the level creator. People made Dead Space, Resident Evil, Silent Hill & Mario Bros levels. As amazing as those levels were they don't even compare when it comes to some of the wholly original levels that were created. One guy was so talented that media molecule hired him.

[Kleptic]

LittleBigPlanet 2 seems also to address the only problem I had with the original title, which was sorting through the millions of levels to find the great ones in somewhat awkward fashion...for every awesome level, there was an equally pointless one, and it to this day is nearly impossible to find the great stuff quickly...

I was never much for the creation aspect simply because of the amount of time it took to do it 'right'...i threw together multiple crapper roller coasters and stuff just to mess around, but could never dedicate the time it would take to create something impressive...seems millions of others did the same thing, yet published them to everyone also...so its unavoidable that there is a lot of less than stellar content, which by definition is part of UGC entirely...

I do agree that the 360 could use this stuff...but it doesn't 'need' it...as most core 360 users simply don't care about UGC, as its legion of fans and supporters have never had it, yet still buy almost everything released...if anything it would simply help brand expansion and MS's name in this industry...But going toe to toe with Sony in a competition of 'who is more open' would only embarrass MS...as Sony has gotten it right since the beginning...and the PS3 is the first platform to really illustrate that...by the end of this generation Sony will have a 100% stranglehold on the free and legal UGC side of gaming and its business advantages, save the indie PC scene which gets little overall spotlight...its too late for MS to do anything about that this generation; meaning with the 360 specifically...

[Ju]

"create an indie game via XBLA", yeah, because there are soo many community games in XBLA, especially free ones. /s

[Morbid Bulldozer]

@Ju: Is LBP2 going to be free then?

[hamburgerhill]

It's not really an equivalent simply because XNA rewards it's creators with the incentive to make money. LBP2 is Sony's monster that is (your correct) there XNA just being a tad bit more user friendly. XNA has more potential but the design of LBP2 will always keep it ahead in my eye.

[Ju]

LBP2 isn't free, nor is XBL.

We'll see what LBP2 can do. But it's an authoring tool for dummies. No (traditional) programming involved. That said, it's not as flexible as say an full blown engine (scripting?), but it is the best environment to create content - with logical and visual tools.

[hamoor]

games like lbp is what the 360 needs
and please micro....NO MORE FPS!!!!
one more and this will happen to me
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Def Warrant]

LOL yeah i remember when the desperate trolls where claiming kodu was a GOTY contender. Let's see what else they have to say about LBP2.

[vhero]

LBP would be impossible on 360 anyway thanks to the restrictions on Live MM said this before they were acquired by Sony. So this is a moot point. This is just some site trying to get hits.

[avengers1978]

360 could use any unique game. Sadly you will never see LBP on the 360, but I guess some one can try to do it better than Media Molecule. Since Sony bought them there is no way you see LBP, or LBP 2, or MNR for the 360.

[Greywulf]

They had the little girl making a level."AT LIGHTNING SPEED!"

Kotaku and the rest of the media were so amazed at how epic it was, tried to hype the hell out of it. Yet, absolutely nothing major has shipped on the scale of LBP at retail, or anywhere. It was just another "but yeah so what we have this!" to save face and look as if they are multi faceted, and boom nothing awarded at GDC.

Did everyone forget that the 360 already had its LBP? Banjo Kazooie from RARE? Search on N4G. Banjo was very hyped by the community here, but it sold less than 25k copies come NPD time. The audience for these type of games aren't 360 owners.

[CrimsonFox13]

I'm not entirely sure, but I thought Media Molecule went to Sony first. They were part of Lionhead Studios but left to make LBP and went to Sony first and they supported them much more than they expected and the project turned into something massive. Maybe they did go to Microsoft before forming Media Molecule... Or maybe I'm wrong. Oh well.

[The Wood]

im not sure they'd allow such creativity to bounce around for free. Look what happened to unreal tournament... One of its main features removed because either ms is worried about the content 'some' may put up or because they know they'd have to pay for the upkeep without getting payment from whoever creates/downloads/uploads...pe rsonally i think its a bit of both...why do it for free when they KNOW they can charge xbl users.

[Scott667]

Actually, MS is fairly open with XBL. They offer XNA which allows people to create their own games and sell them over Live (I really wish Sony would implement something similar, creating/sharing indie games over a subsection of the PSN Store would be awesome!). A quite well known example is 'I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES 1N IT!!!1" (Yes, it really does have a name that silly) which made a single person over $100,000!

I don't care about Cross-Game Chat or a Party system, if PSN had a Sony equivilent of XNA the two services would be equal in my eyes. ...wait, has that idea been submitted to PlayStationBlog.Share yet? Hopefully.

[Apolloeye]

Once you have the SDK you need only get the game approved to have it appear on PSN - for example

Everyday Shooter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Or games like Shatter which was made by a group of 4 friends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Kleptic]

well LBP2 seems to be the business equivelent to XNA for the PSN...but in the end consumers benefit more than they do with XNA, but the creators are not in a position to earn money...

if LBP2 does what its supposed to...people buy the game and than create 'games' through it...and other people buy the game to play games others created...and the only money exchanged is for purchasing the game in the first place...

i'll take that any day over buying all the indie games pushed through on XNA...as almost everything is relatively weak compared to any 'real' arcade title created for xbl...if they were better with previews and demos for said indie games; allowing users to try more of a indie title before buying...it would go a very long way...

and thats what I love about LBPs approach...you can try anything for free...share anything for free...and create anything for free...albeit once you have the game...if something sucks, so what?...try something else or create something better...

overall though Sony still needs to market LBP and especially LBP2 better...they did a great job with it, but there are still multiple PS3 owners I know that are just now hearing about the first LBP...and what its capable of...not sure how they can get the word out more, but so many people just think its a platformer with good graphics and simple gameplay...and its so much more...

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I Totally agree, I'd wrather us buy LBP 2 and play everything that users create for free, then to have some that are free and some that you need to pay for(I Hate this Concept), so when I Buy LBP 2 I Know that every game/movie/music video that is made with it is completely free.

[Godmars290]

The funny thing is you have to pay for full access to XBL. Don't why they'd turn around looking for more money for a LBP-like title that then "freely" shared user made content.

Think HDD space was/is more of an issue.

[The Wood]

im sure MS get a cut out of the games and thats my point. What about unreal tournament? Whats the reason they cut ugc

[anonymous]

Its that simple. Does that mean the 360 sucks? No. I own one and its nice to have for exclusive games. Sonys platform along w/ a massive 1st party team that communicates and shares tech it a godsend of a combo to have for creating amazing experiences, like LBP/LBP2. It your a fan of gaming, you have to own a ps3 at this point especially w/ it being priced at 299.

[HighDefinition]

Its that simple. Does that mean the 360 sucks? No. I own one and its nice to have for exclusive games. Sonys platform along w/ a massive 1st party team that communicates and shares tech it a godsend of a combo to have for creating amazing experiences, like LBP/LBP2. It your a fan of gaming, you have to own a ps3 at this point especially w/ it being priced at 299.

Edit: Why did my comment come up as Guest?

[Javert]

Were you signed in?

[MrMiyagi]

whatever happened to that game MS ripped LBP look from? was it supposed to be the xbox LBP? i cant quite remember what it was...

[palaeomerus]

Are you talking about "9" a CGI movie by Shane Acker released in 2005 that is that ALSO has a little guy made of burlap with a zipper running around huge everyday objects?

It had a full length feature film version made that released in 2009 under the Universal Pictures label.

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

I think a lot of Xbox only owners would dismiss a game like LBP. The 360 owning demographic is very shooter orientated.

[Kleptic]

while you'll get a lot of disagree on here...it is true from the business standpoint...shooters sell on the 360...and MS has done a good job of keeping that market growing and appealing to its core user base...

Sony never did that, although they are currently still trying to open that genre up on the PS3 (resistance series, Killzone 2, etc.)...

doesn't mean though that a game like LBP wouldn't do well on the 360 and XBL...its just XBL to this day is not built or advertised like that type of network...its not open...at all...and its users are used to it being that way, and don't seem to mind...but for whatever reason MS avoids UGC almost entirely, save a handful of titles having some UGC type aspects (forza 2 and 3 car mods, Halo video, etc.)...and Sony doesn't, starting with full support for mods for UT3 built into the game...

[Chubear]

.. and it's hard to understand that demographic cause if it's shooters they mainly like the PS3 actually has more shooters than the 360 does. When you go down the line of exclusives in genres, the PS3 always has at least double the # of games in that genre.

I think it's way more than "they just like shooters". I think it's more "they just like MS products" than anything else cause it doesn't make sense any other way.

Think about it; the 360 only has ONE exclusive FPS in 4yrs (Halo) while the PS3 has THREE - KILLZONE, MAG & RESISTANCE in 3yrs. Even if you throw in less popular FPSs like Frontlines, the PS3 has Haze which you'll still see more activity online than with Frontlines. So even with those 2 thrown in, the 360 has 2 FPS and the PS3 4... unless you want to throw in Hour of victory & Prefect dark zero into the mix to :(

The most you can say is the 360 has more RPGs but even that's not really true. Maybe 2yrs ago but certainly not now.

Unless you insist on counting timed exclusivity, the PS3 has way more exclusive gaming content in almost every genre than the 360. Heck, the PS3 has games in genres that don't even exist on the 360.

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

With regards to the FPS on each console.

MAG wasn't that good IMO and the reviews weren't outstanding. Even Insomniac revealed they were disappointed with R2, as were many fans of the first Resistance. Killzone is very good, but it's a lot less accessable than Halo.

[PimpHandHappy]

for the reason The Wood said

MS has a very closed off system with XBL... "Create and share" is not something the 360 will ever do.. unless your sharing money with MS every time you create a level

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

You mean Boku?

[MrMiyagi]

naw, im thinking it was another title

[krisq]

Kodu, and it's already out.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Kodu and the avatar game are indie games so they wont be anywhere close to a 60$ retail game. They are little indie games, and I dont know if the avatar game even ever came out.

[AssassinHD]

I laugh at the statement that Sony's acquisition of Media Molecule removed "almost" any hope of LittleBigPlanet 2 going multiplatform. LittleBigPlanet was a Sony owned IP well before the acquisition, so there was no "almost" about it.

So I must wonder why the author feels that the Play, Create, Share genre is now "suddenly more appealing".

Edit: To be clear, this is not some veiled attack at any platform. I just don't believe that the author really thought his article through. This is about him, not some console war.

[Javert]

I have to agree that the article seemed kind of off, it got going then it just sort of stopped. As for him saying the acquisition of Media Molecule stopped the 360 from getting LBP2, he probably just meant the future Media Molecule games, as MM has now not only created it's own genre of games, but are maintaining status as being the best at it as well, so most of their games would probably be in that genre.

[Ju]

Re: "So I must wonder why the author feels that the Play, Create, Share genre is now "suddenly more appealing". "

I could imagine, because now in LBP2 you can actually create full games, even without Sackboy or being locked to the platform genre. That adds quite a new dimension to the "game"; it makes it an authoring tool.

[Akagi]

Probably M$ have a game not similar in the works.

[Hellsvacancy]

Large Small World cummin soon 2 a 360 near u

[hatchimatchi]

LOL, that's hilarious

[D4RkNIKON]

Nice, Hells. Bubbled up for humor.

Does 360 have any Play Create Share style games with user generated content? I loved LBP, can't wait for LBP2 and about to get my hands on Modnation Racers!

[Hellsvacancy]

Bubbles happily returned

[Demarco156]

360 only need a halo every year

[SuperStrokey1123]

It would seem that you are correct...

[Doc Sony]

6 DVD's

[A change in the wind]

The 360 desperately needs Little Big Planet. However, due to Sony`s experience and intelligence they showed by purchasing Media Molecule, that will never happen. If MS wants to throw ridiculous amounts of money at childish timed DLC, instead of actual investments that benefit themselves and their fanbase, just so they can say "hahahaha nanny nanny boo boo," then the 360 gets absolutely no sympathy from me. I`m glad MM games will only see the light of day on the PS3, they deserve it.

[SephireX]

LBP rocks and the guys at Media Molecule are extremely smart and talented, as Peter Molyneux described them. This is the game that competes with Super Mario on Nintendo but what has the 360? The 360 has no great platform games that can compete with Nintendo or Sony. Sony has LBP and Rachet and Clank, two critically acclaimed franchises. The 360 fails big time in this department. Yes I know it has arcade games but they're not this generation. The only console on the market right now that provides quality games in every genre, is the PS3. Hell, just look at Heavy Rain. That game is in a genre of its own and the Wii and the 360 have nothing to compete with it.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Also you have LBP 2 coming out and that to is It's own Genre and so far Nintendo and MS have no answer to that, Just like HR.

[Stationfan]

Ada Boy Sony, instead of buying the milk buy the cow and get all the milk for your consumers, now that's looking after your own versus this timed exclusive crap that,

[SuperStrokey1123]

Removing almost any hope? How about it removed any and all hope...

[Dannehkins]

This bloody titles with their hyperbolic headlines.

The Xbox 360 doesn't NEED LittleBigPlanet, but I am sure there are some out there who wouldn't actually mind Sackboy coming onto their console.

It's a great game and kudos to Media Molecule for providing something that is different. I'm sure some people with an Xbox 360 would LIKE to have a game that resembles the cuddliness that is Sackboy, but it certainly doesn't NEED it.

Sorry to be picky, but it sounds as though the Xbox 360 won't survive without the game.

[Rowsdower]

If you want LBP buy a PS3, its that simple. The cost of a PS3 is not prohibitive at this moment. I know times are tough all over, but if your a gamer, and have the ability to save some cash over a period of time buying PS3 should not be hard to do.

When the slim came out I saved up some cash and purchased one, and now I am a very happy multiconsole owner.

When I purchased the slim the first game I purchased was Killzone 2, which I enjoyed and I still enjoy the multplayer. The second game I purchased was LBP and it was that game that showed me the power of the PS3. To this day I will start up LBP, pick a rollercoaster level from the community, and just hold on and watch the light show.

My favorite level is The Miracle of Life:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[lowcarb]

Now that's an insane looking level. It's hard to believe LBP2 will have even better graphics and features. Honestly I would love a game like this on 360 but like you said it's easy to just pick up a PS3.

[bobrea]

360 doesn't NEED LBP, but it would be nice to get some variety in the library. I picked up a 360 last week along with Halo 3, ODST, Gears 1, 2, and Fable 2. I feel like the library is pretty stale beyond those games (I play games like Mass Effect, SC:C on PC, and I also own a PS3.)

[Def Warrant]

Little big planet has redefined the platforming genre to the point that any other game that tries to be like it will fail hard. Sony was smart to buy MM. Can't say the same for M$.

[tiamat5]

No offense to Xbox 360 owners but from what I have observed from most people who own a 360, creativity is not a usual trait. Look at most of their games. Imagination and creativity isn't exactly encouraged rather kill everything that moves.

[lowcarb]

That's a false observation especially when MS is the company pushing Indie games. I would love a LBP on 360 but if not for this game PS3 owners wouldn't even be getting cocky over the subject.

[XabiTheHumble]

Yes, MS is pushing Indie games but who is buying it? 2. uh ps3 owners have alot to get cocky over there is a lot of innovation in that library.

[callahan09]

Well, the 360 was never going to get LittleBigPlanet anyway. They make it sound like Media Molecule could have brought the game to the 360 whenever they wanted before they were bought by Sony. Are they forgetting that the game was published by Sony, and that Sony owns the intellectual property?

From LittleBigPlanet.com ... "“LittleBigPlanet”, “Sackboy” and “Sackgirl” are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe"

[Darkiewonder]

360 could barely get a game to run at 540p. How can it run a game like LBP with all the physics going on and still have crisp IQ?!

[BrianC6234]

Microsoft had their chance at LittleBigPlanet and said no thanks. Their loss. Now there's no chance they get it. That guy said almost no chance but he said absolutely no chance. Since Sony bought Media Molecule why would they ever let the game go to the 360?

[divideby0]

my 360 needs the sharing of stuff.
UT on the PS3 with all the mods and simply downloads through its browser extended the value and gameplay of UT.
same for games like LBP and MNR...
you have to be a complete fool to think the sharing of free user contributed levels does not extend the value of a game

[labwarrior]

And notice the sell part

[TreMillz]

10 minutes into hoping on platforms, bouncing around and all that good stuff, majority of them would say; "When do we get to the part where I shoot something?"

[lowcarb]

360 gamers would welcome it with open arms. Don't stereo type us because we've had some good shooters.

[tiamat5]

It's not stereotype. If Xbox 360 owners were so hell bent on games like this how come you ignored games like Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata that got such good scores? We are just going on facts. All the people that I know if you ask them what games they have the first games they list are either shooters, racing games or sports. You almost never hear them start with Braid,Blue Dragon, Viva Pinata or Banjo Kazooie. Don't pretend that the 360 is suddenly so varied. They barely have any decent action platformers,platformers,RPGs or anything that doesn't involve shooting something. I understand that not all 360 owners are exactly the same but believe me most of them would open their arms to LBP.

[XabiTheHumble]

Just like they welcomed every other non shooter with open arms :)

[Rowsdower]

on XBL is pretty robust with some really cool games, and many of the games are fairly inexpensive.

So while its no LBP, there is a robust community of people making small games on XBL that gets little to no attention.

Check them out:

http://marketplace.xbox.com...

There are sports games, gamemaking games, music making games, shooters, avatar games, rpgs, pretty much everything you can imagine.

These are totally separate xbl arcade games (which have their own exclusives but most games can also be found on the PSN store)

http://marketplace.xbox.com...

and Games on Demand

http://marketplace.xbox.com...

where you can find 360 games and original xbox games.

I personally have purchased just one games on demand game and that was Pyschonauts.

Also keep in mind that all these games (except some games on demand) have free demos.

[Socomer 1979]

Unreal tournament 3 on ps3
littlebigplanet
modnation racers

ps3 also has other genres like
The Eye of Judgement!
Eyepet!
The Move games!

PS3 is bringing 3D Gaming In Glorious High Definition.
Blu-Ray
Free Internet Browser

ps3 has PSN which is a universe all of it's own. Sony shows us love with free access to
HOME
AD-HOC Party
Netflix
Exclusive games
Movies to own
mouse & keyboard support
printer support
everything.

Ps3 runs wild with exclusives !
Breaking barriers, revolutionalizing, creating new genres, technicaly amazing & graphically unrivaled. A new way to play. 8 vs 8 just isn't cutting it anymore.

Most importantly!

No need for extra DVDs to scratch.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[Shawnzee]

LBP is garbage.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Actually LBP is fun, I've been playing it often the last several days, I Never created anything but I've played other peoples levels before.

Some of the people in the LBP Community is very good at making Levels.
I've played this one game where you even got to shoot enemies that had health bars, and I was like how the heck they do that? LOL.

With LBP 2 I see many Indie game developers and even normal players taking the leap and doing prototypes for bigger funded projects.
And if this article means nothing to you and LBP is Garbage(according to you) then why bother replying?, Keep your panties on, all 3 Consoles have there Good games.

[Jack Klugman]

Yeah it is.. zzzz

Most of the levels are garbage and even the fun ones are only fun for a day and then get old fast.

just like most things ps3 and ps3 owners are over hyping this stuff like that socom guy above you.. just like the front page of n4g and all these types of articles it seems the sony camp needs as much daily encouragement and reaffirmation of their purchase.

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

maybe or maybe not.

[Rowsdower]

We all the know the PS3 is awesome, your preaching to the choir here.

Its just that this article is about the 360 needing LBP, and it does not.

Look at my 2nd post in this thread, check out XBL Indie Games, there are folks trying out new things on the 360.

Both consoles are giving their users great and unique experiences, and its my opinion that if your missing out on either experience then you are missing out on the best of this console gen.

360 and PS3, together ftw!

[Jack Klugman]

when i read that spew all I read is.

"I'm cool right?"

"The PS3 is the best right?"

"Please reaffirm because I just dont know"

ps3 is alright but nothing like the monkeys on this site make it out to be and if the world agreed there would be no doubt sony would be looking down an ninty and ms instead of the other way around.

insecure all around

[MastermindPS360]

360 fans have no idea about LBP let alone care...this article FAIL

[MastermindPS360]

ps3 needs a halo still...

[AssassinHD]

I wholeheartedly disagree with that statement. The PS3 game library is packed with very high quality exclusive titles that cater to a wide range of gaming tastes. It is just fine without a Halo. Perhaps there are no titles that sell as well as a Halo title, but the player base has a very diverse gaming palette, and that is ok.

I am not trying to take anything away from Halo here. Clearly it is a working formula, because millions of people are still enjoying Halo 3, and many people were still playing Halo 2 online a few weeks ago.

I just don't believe it is "needed" in the PS3 library.

[Dramscus]

How about they get a ps3?

[Jack Klugman]

No it doesnt. did any xbox owners actually miss the first one? with XNA and Kodu if you want to make a full game you have the tools and with XNA you can actually make a commercially viable product ask the Dishwasher Samurai dev.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Are xbox owners highly trained C++/VB programmers? are they highly skilled 3D modelers? 2D artists? animators?

Thought so, LBP was a GOTY & won many awards.

Live with the facts fanboy.

[I_Luv_2_Game]

like LBP however I do think MS needs more in house games.. Maybe if they had more in house development maybe MS could work there way to having a game like LBP..

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi__]

...Banjo-Kazooie!!! ;-D That was...er erm...hmm...

[OmarJA-N4G]

Best game of 2008 beside MGS4 & GTAIV.

Every platform needs it, but lucky Sony.

[macalatus]

My fellow Sony gamers, the 360 doesn't need LBP as they already play (and disturbingly worship) a Power Ranger rip-off videogame franchise! What the 360 gamers need instead, is a new set of gray matter to make them realize that 360 games doesn't offer anything fresh.

Sony Gamers Lead the Way!

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

The game is well suited for the ps3 disk space not saying that the 360 can't do the graphics.....but Media Molecule would be very limited in there creation because of disk constraints.

[midgard227]

360 needs more game exclusives that arent just shooters in general. forza and fable r their only good not shooting exclusives

[Denethor_II]

I don't think MS like the idea of user created content being shared considering the 360 is a hackers dream.

[rezzah]

Sack Boy is the PS3s mascot, 360 cant get LPB