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Editorial: Obama's Right, Accept It and Move On

Binge Gamer's James Walker writes: "The President of the United States, for as long as there has been television, radio and print, has been making speeches across the United States and the world. When he’s in a particular city, he may mention a city’s local sports team — but you don’t see fan blogs picking up every Obama speech where he mentions the White Sox, do you?

No. Because it has nothing to do with the core subject. So why do video game blogs — and yes, it’s the blogs who run with this tripe — feel the need to latch onto Obama’s every mention of video games and try to dissect it into being “zomg Obama hates games!” Not only is it intellectually dishonest to try and argue that Obama has it in for gaming, these relatively minor mentions ultimately have nothing to do with the industry whatsoever."

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unrealgamer585513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

cool story bro.

bring the disagrees ladies. :)

BannedForNineYears5513d ago

Honestly, if a republican said "Gaming's bad, m'kay?" people would be like "Loooooooooooool what a retard11111111 f dah presidenttttttt lawwwwwwwwl".
Obama's wrong, deal with it and move on.

Parapraxis5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

""Loooooooooooool what a retard11111111 f dah presidenttttttt lawwwwwwwwl""
But..isn't that the reaction many gamers are giving Obama?

It's such a typical form of denial I see when some gamers hear stuff they don't want to hear.
It's childish.

How was he wrong saying that gaming can distract from education?
PLEASE ELABORATE.

The Wood5513d ago

Parapraxis

i swear i was like the only 1

AEtherbane5513d ago

There are some people who play video games all the time and do poorly in school. And some are able to do well in school and still play games, therefore, is some are able to do both, than video games are clearly a distraction for some.

iamtehpwn5513d ago

When you consider Sarah Palin. Rush Limbaugh. Glenn Beck. Nuff said.

HolyOrangeCows5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

I think he should lay off of one of America's biggest, most exponentially growing industries.
But I know that wingnut isn't too concerned over things like jobs.

That said, let's stop getting politics and videogames mixed...stop posting Obama-related crap on N4G.

"When you consider Sarah Palin. Rush Limbaugh. Glenn Beck. Nuff said"
It's like some Democrats think Bush and Palin are the only Republicans in the US.

BTW, to make it clear, I am a Libertarian.

RememberThe3575513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

We only have 24 hours in each day and with all we need to do on a daily basis those hours fly by.

It seems that the people who have a problem with this are people who choose to have a problem with everything he says.

I can't believe you guy are so sensitive to what amounts to complete logic.

@above: Well Bush and Sara Palin are the people republicans are are electing and going to see speak. If republicans don't like Bush or Palin either, why don't they find some new more educated faces to lead their party.

EvilBlackCat5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

"And meanwhile, you’re coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don’t always rank that high on the truth meter. And with iPods and iPads; and Xboxes and PlayStations — none of which I know how to work — (laughter) — information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation. So all of this is not only putting pressure on you; it’s putting new pressure on our country and on our democracy"

Democracy?

-1st of the United State is not a Democracy Government. NO(BIG NO)
The United States of America is a Constitutional Republic

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
-2nd everything that is an entertainment is a distraction

for example: THIS SITE HELLO!

-3rd Everybody is responsible of what they do with their time. Parents are responsible of what they buy for their kids and video games store are responsible if they break the ESBR rules.
http://www.esrb.org/index-j...

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@RememberThe357
"@above: Well Bush and Sara Palin are the people republicans are are electing and going to see speak. If republicans don't like Bush or Palin either, why don't they find some new more educated faces to lead their party"

"why don't they find some new more educated faces to lead their party"

LOL!!! and you keep believing that the people choose their party leaders and presidents in the U.S. since Richard Nixon?

gamingisnotacrime5513d ago

From my experience he is wrong. Im studying engineering and i consider myself a core gamer, and i can honestlu said that the time and attention gaming gets does not share the same time and space with my studies, and i am very dedicated to my studies. But i have seen fellow students failing classes because of Halo or CoD, so from their experience Obama is right.
Either way i dont support this attacks on gaming because gaming has being criticized by a long time as a waste of time, unlike movies and music. Obama is too much of a control freak, and what many of us gamers dont want to happen is some strict regulations on the industry like we have seen in other countries. Is a long shot, but so it was with health care, my point is with Obama many imposible things, good or bad, can become pausible

Kurylo3d5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

Im a game dev myself. I can honestly say, yes play video games do become a distraction. If you play for 2-3hours after work.. or school.. do u really think ur going to have the energy to study after wards? I know im ready to knock out in my bed after a game of left 4 dead 2 lol. Not saying video games are bad for you.. im saying video games are bad for you if not in moderation... just like anything is bad for you if not in moderation. Hell water will poison you if you drink gallons of it.

So yea obama is right... if i were a parent i wouldnt let my kids play games all day. They could enjoy em for a couple of hours every other day, but id make them concentrate on their studies first. So when obama says to parents... put the controller down and guide your children... the man has a point. To many parents just leave their kids by the tv.

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FarEastOrient5513d ago

President Obama's kids play with the Wii; I believe it is a generation thing since both sides of the House and Senate have people blaming games at some point. I mean this is the first president that actually embraced the current generation of technology of blackberry, twitter, facebook, and yes ads in Burnout Paradise.

To my recollection the only president before to embrace technology to change the way the country forever was Abraham Lincoln with the telegraph, train, balloons, mass mobilization, ironclads, and of course total warfare.

As soldiers older than me never conceived that the new soldiers will have a different perspective and conduct to war.

The most played video game during my first deployment was Halo 3 and during my second deployment is Modern Warfare 2.

presto7175513d ago

The man is just cool like that.

Sheikh Yerbouti5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

I don't mean the games, but the argument. There is heaps wrong with this society in regards to education and magically pointing to video games and social technology isn't dealing with any substantial problem.

With the cost of education sky rocketing and foreboding inflation caused by Mssrs. Bush and Obama, we may see a education bubble like we had a housing bubble. The DOE may have to take over some private lenders.

Here in Nap, there is tons of money going toward the Super Bowl, but we're closing libraries and community centers, having to fire entire school faculty for incompetence, and bemoan why there are schools with 40% graduation rates. Does anyone thinks our problem is because of videogames?

We're getting dumber America, and it started at the top with our leaders and institution, not with little Johnny and his 360.

zoks3105513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

Until Islam becomes a major practice for the west then people will never understand the power of education and knowledge, and that all forms of the media distracts you from becoming empowered or better.
People are wasting hours (50-80+) a week on video games, some are spending $100's some even $1000 a year on this form of entertainment. Think about it, if we made that kind of investment into physically, mentally and spiritually making ourselves better, or starting our own business, where would we be as a people? It gets really crazy once you realize what this is doing to young people, or poor people that are taking their little bit of money to buy a $59 game, it is just sad. So Obama is right.... big time.

I know video games are fun as hell, but for the investment that it takes and for it give so very little in return, clearly it is not worth it.

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Parapraxis5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

Great editorial, he hit the nail on the head.

Blogs looking to make some big over the top story about Obama hating gaming are only making themselves look like complete morons.

About what Obama recently said about video games being a distraction;
Simple fact is, if teens and young adults spend too much time playing videogames their education is very likely to suffer. (Especially if there is poor parenting involved)
Obama was right to say they are a distraction, can't handle the truth, that's YOUR problem.

@disagrees
If you think Obama was wrong about too much gaming distracting from school work, explain why.

jmare5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

You're right that the blogs trying to make something out of this generally make themselves look foolish. However, the hobby of playing games is still considered a fringe hobby, regardless of the Wii and the industry slowing coming into the mainstream. It is still considered a child's pastime even though the average age of a gamer is around 32. So to have the POTUS specifically speak against it, it denigrates the hobby that many people enjoy.

And as far as gaming being a distraction, that is a convenient scapegoat. Anything that takes away from studies is a distraction. The same logic can be applied to TV, movies, comic books, anime, dating sports, etc. So all calling out games does is marginalize gaming when anything done excessively can be a distraction to education.

EDIT: Below:

I didn't say this specific comment alone was an insult, but when you consider all of the comments that Obama has made about games, you get a clearer picture of his views. And I'm "getting on his case" because anything done excessively can be a distraction, so he is simply making a convenient scapegoat of gaming as the main distraction to education.

TheoreticalParticle5513d ago

"However, the hobby of playing games is still considered a fringe hobby...It is still considered a child's pastime even though the average age of a gamer is around 32. So to have the POTUS specifically speak against it, it denigrates the hobby that many people enjoy."

And yet, in the same breath he laid down the same "insult" about iPads/Pods which are hardly niche. It's not an insult. Just like it wasn't an insult when he said that people who were trying to be fiscally responsible shouldn't be running off to Vegas to gamble money that they can't afford to spend.

This is by far the most positively that any administration of the last 16 years has treated video games, and you're going to get on the guy's case because he points out that video games can be a distraction?

RememberThe3575513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

I don't think you understand how big of and industry videogameing is. Nearly every single college kid has a game system(at least in the household). It's common knowledge that movies and tv and other activities can cut in on your study time, but less so with videogames. They are a relatively new entertainment medium and a lot of people don' realize how they can suck you in. I've had classmates who have blown test because they forgot to study because they were play videogames. Hell, I've done it. He's pointing it out so that people are aware. It wouldn't be fare to point out movies, magazines, and tv without mentioning videogames either.

Darkstorn5513d ago

I for one think Obama has a valid point. However, gaming is only going to become more popular and mainstream, so he'd better get with the times.

@jmare-
It may not be entirely correct, but the saying still goes: "Any publicity is good publicity."

GarandShooter5513d ago

It's all parenting, or in the case of young adults self discipline. Any form of entertainment is meant to be a distraction, an escape AFTER our responsibilities are fulfilled. For those in school, their studies are their primary responsibility. Videogames have just become the poster child as the new and fashionable distraction. When I was a child it was the evils of television. Something new down the road will replace videogames. The story hasn't changed, there is just a new cast of characters.

cricen5513d ago (Edited 5513d ago )

Well said. @4

Kratos Spartan5513d ago

Gaming is Entertainment. It is here to stay. It has been a distraction in my life for almost 30 years. And I love it. I'm not much for fitting into society. I'd rather not. I am content with my life right now. And Gaming is my life.

GAMES FTW

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola4d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola2d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin2d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola2d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop2d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel11d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola1d 11h ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel115h ago(Edited 15h ago)

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris4d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK2d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds2d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar2d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy2d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel11d 23h ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola4d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer2d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused2d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher2d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer2d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion2d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola2d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje2d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola2d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused2d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno2d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool2d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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