Developers Shift To Leading On PS3

NG: We speak to the world's leading devs to discover why the PS3 is taking over as the lead of choice...

According to Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase, the challenge that the PS3 sets developers is an exciting one of just how far they can push themselves. “When you talk about graphics you can see immediately that the hardware of the PlayStation 3 offers a much higher capacity and is much more powerful,” he told NowGamer, comparing PS3 with Xbox 360...

[Lord_Ranos]

PS3 is a powerhouse.

[sikbeta]

And Awesome...

[Akagi]

And did I mention it's an awesome powerhouse?

[blizzard_cool]

And did I mention that it's an awesome powerhouse that has free online?

[MGRogue2017]

... And guess who is the best at PS3 development so far??

Naughty Dog with their baby, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves!! So F**king talented! :D

[darthv72]

I always felt ps3 should have been lead. When 360 leads it is as if they dont put any more effort into porting the game right to the ps3. Sloppy ports are not acceptable and can only lead to tarnish a devs cred.

PS3 as lead will only make the multiplat games that more equal. Anyone with either console will be getting a quality title if more devs do this.

[Anon1974]

Last gen the Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and everyone knew it. If a game was available on both consoles, the Xbox game always had the edge and developers weren't afraid to maximize what the Xbox had to offer. There was no push to make games look equal across both platforms.

This gen it's different. If a multiplat game is perceived to be slightly inferior on one platform versus the other, internet buzz will sometimes kill a game before it launches and I think that's had developers spooked for a long time.

There's no doubt that the PS3 is the more powerful system but multiplatform developers aren't developing games like they were back last gen. I think they've been afraid to exploit each system's strengths for fear of backlash from the other camp, but thankfully that's changed now and we're seeing multiplatform games routinely look better on the PS3 (we started to see the shift reflected in review scores back in 2009 when PS3 games on average were found to be better than their 360 counterparts).

I think that the playing field is different for developers now. Before, if a PS3 multiplat looked better, you couldn't afford 360 fans to snub your game because they felt they were getting an inferior version. The PS3's installed base wasn't large enough and such a snub could be costly. Now that there are roughly the same amount of PS3's as 360's in the wild, this isn't as much as a factor at present and we're now seeing PS3 games shine.

Or it could just be that games take a long time to develop and we're only now seeing developers getting the hang of working on the PS3.

Or maybe it's a bit of both.

[webeblazing]

i thought it was in they contract not to have the game looking too much different on the other consoles i sworn i read it on this website in 07 correct me if im wrong

[Sevir04]

all these 3rd party devs are laaaaaaaate to the party, Insomniac pretty much pioneered PS3 development and ND and GG took it to the next level. First party have been saying it for years. to make the most out of the system. move all your work the the SPUs... nobody listen. it took games like MGS4, Resistance 2. ratchet and clank future, Uncharted, KZ2 to show people how to make games. now 3rd parties are waking up and saying hey we figured it out... No you didn't it was right in your face the whole time. PS3 developers were screaming it. but better late than never.

[cmrbe]

This gen both are about equal in installbase right now. Multi devs can't afford to loose half of their potential clients. Just something i9 though about.

[nix]

...and thank you Sony for all your great exclusives! if it wasn't for them, no one would have believed anything. 2 years in a row PS3 exclusives have been winning GOTY. this year, it has started with GOW3 and it will end with GT5!

and yeah.. it saves time! q:

EDIT: why does the comment counter says "2" but there's more than 10 already.

[mookins]

Best console I ever owned.

[M-Easy]

Bubble for intelligence!

[Brewski007]

So true. It really does only do everything.... Except maybe cure my hangover :P .
I love that this statment is coming from a final-fantasy xiii producer as it shows they'll be loyal to its cause for years to come no doubt :)

[bviperz]

Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it. Unfortunately most will not get to read 'some' of the great points you made even though you did make some points. I'm no 'greater than thou' type but the fact is in a lot of cases the 'Console War' has nothing to do with a persons immense enjoyment of their preferred gaming platform. Just saying.

[vhero]

Medal of Honour is beating ported from PS3 to 360? That's different you would have thought they would do both versions together but I guess it saves money porting. Porting usually means 1 console gets a bum deal though... As PS3 owners found out the first year or so of the PS3's life..

[XeroTrinity]

Porting doesnt always mean a bad game. FFXIII proved that both games could be very comparable.. However the point of this article is to say that creating the game on the PS3 theeen porting to the xbox you get better results then doing it the other way around.

[Trroy]

The PS3 is the more restrictive architecture, really. If you write your code to work in a very modular, parallel, cache-coherent fashion, like the PS3 requires, chances are you're writing a better 360 game as well.

I'm going to stick my neck out there and say that its certainly plausible that 360 games could benefit from having engine architectures that work well on the more constrained, but faster if you harness it, architecture of the PS3.

[Christopher]

PS3 is a powerhouse, but that unfortunately is not why you lead on it. It's also harder to develop for considering the greater level of effort needed in managing data and processes. Leading on the PS3 results in setting a good base for both platforms.

No matter which platform you're leading on, you will eventually have to scale something back on both of them if your goal is to have them look as similar as possible.

[JoelR]

this has been stated again and again at GDC but most people seem to miss it.

"Ham also feels the pain, but has come to believe that it’s essential as the PS3 is leading the way to the future of game development. “There’s been a learning curve, but we feel it’s worth it in the end,” he said. “Multi-core development is the future. It’s not impossible to imagine PCs with 24 cores in them within the next few years, so we figure, why not get going with it now?”"

that is since the PS3 has an architecture that is more like future systems that to do the learning now is a good thing.

[Christopher]

Not quite sure what you disagreed with, JoelR? I didn't say that multi-core development wasn't the future or that it wasn't better in the long run, only more difficult.

[JoelR]

the reason is... it really is not more difficult to program for (ask most game developers) just different from the base mindset. Sure if I approach it from a PC centric viewpoint it is difficult but if you approach it from the big iron side of things it's actually quite simple.

[StanLee]

Simple; they don't want to be flamed when the product is inferior even in the minutest on the platform.

[Hallmark Moment]

It's easier to develop on the lesser platform first after all the problems in the past, now developers are starting to do PS3 first because they will never have to fight the 360 advantages[because the 360 was not the lead] thus making it easier. This is why multi platform games are always close or slightly better on the 360 no matter lead platform. Any developer trying to win over that radical faction will say anything to please them so they can sell games.

Example: Bungie was hated, now they are loved because they are giving PS3 a chance. Everybody knows how sensitive that group is. Hell the RAGE devs had to come out and say the PS3 version of Rage was more stable just so they could let the media preview the 360 version with out backlash. If the PS3 version is currently more stable why not show off the PS3 version?

[PiTCHBLaCK]

You said Bungie is now Loved? your wrong, I've seen no differences from before to now, just more gossip.

Also there appears to be allot of assumptions in your comment.

[maka]

this guys gave a great example about shadow of the colossus, imagine what the games will look like on the ps3 in the future when they can finally use all the power of the ps3, im not 100% sure but i think they already used up all the xbox 360 can do, and we are still early in the console cycle

[Theonetheonly]

Wasnt it 5 years before? according to that time line followed by pretty much all consoles before current, wouldnt that mean the console cycle should be over over. Or soon to be since ps3 launched a year late?

[maka]

Yes still early, if you look at the ps2 it is still going and selling well, and do you really think ps3 and 360 would have release move or natal if they think its gonna be over soon , it takes a few years to make a good games now, and they probably only just started developing games for Natal and Move.

[hay]

Add Kevin Butler to the list.

[Persistantthug]

Now that the PS3 has reached approx 35 million units, you pretty much have to lead on the PS3 or risk suffering a bad port and risk getting shammed and shunned like BAYONETTA did.

[Saigon]

But this was actually a good article...It gave reasons from the devs mouth...

[Noctis Aftermath]

What i found the most interesting was: “Multi-core development is the future. It’s not impossible to imagine PCs with 24 cores in them within the next few years, so we figure, why not get going with it now?”

I'm glad to see some developers have decided to learn from the PS3 and apply the knowledge to multi-core processing for PCs, as it stands now not enough games scale well with multi-cores.

[siyrobbo]

mmm

[FlameBaitGod]

Like many knew, PS3 is the future. True HD vs sub hd and 3d hasnt kicked in yet, when it does.... 360 will probably look really bad. No web browser, No virtual online community, doesn't help in cancer research(it just burns houses), no blu ray player, only supports 1v2 signals when ps3 supports 1v3 and will support 1v4 for 3d while 360 wont, no weather channel and etc.

Wow xero, you do know SE made FF13 for 360 on another engine right, they didn't port it

[sgw_dec0y]

I agree it is a powerhouse of a console. Makes me wonder if they will stick with the cell processor for the next one or move to something that is easier for developers to grasp from the get go.

[zeeshan]

Well somehow, it seems that all the news and articles are more about PS3 than Xbox360. Boy, have Sony gained their momentum or what!?

[Comet]

I'm glad to see how publishers and developers are finally seeing the true potential of the PlayStation 3...
Looks like I bought the right console! ;D

[Kassanova07]

It was designed to do so...even Valve admitted it. Excellent engineering.

[boysenberry]

Show yourselves cowards! ;)

[SonyOwnsNextYear]

we still have 5+ years of great quality gamming on the ps3.

[jalen247]

Leading on PS3 is the way to go

[Hellsvacancy]

Bubble + 1, Reason? "Well Said"

And oh, its my Birthday 2-day all woop woop woop

[THC CELL]

The guy who made lair has been tellin developers to do this for years

[Xwow2008]

too bad the media and the community were focusing on bashing the game.

[nnotdead]

to be fair the game was pretty bad.

[MGRogue2017]

... Why didn't no one listen to him?? omg lol

Ah well, PS3 is starting to spread it's wings now & soar high into the sky.. Before, it was like a baby bird just hatching from it's egg & growing it's wings.. But now, It's a F**king American Bald Eagle! Stand proud PlayStation 3! :D :D :D

[venum]

that make sense

[Ludakriss]

I would like to just be frank with y'all if I can. Now I'm all for Sony being the lead platform, but only if this is the right platform to lead on. Don't just jump into illusion that if you like a console it's meant to do the job, and it'll do it best. Otherwise it'll just end up like microsoft which most of the time led teams couse of money and it sometime causes errors when porting to ps versions (I may be ignorant of some facts, then sorry). Plus I just for once want for whichever dev to just really put all they've got into EACH platform AND only THEN say "Yo! this is some and some years work. This is waht we got show us yours" AND only then to truly compare WHEN both 360 and PS3 devs compare the same game. But not ports. Instead, individual work. On an individual platform.

[Icyhot]

Mostly, there are no 'PORTS' for all major releases. Port would be referenced to something like Beyonetta which means it's kind a Inferior on 1 platform. In short, PORT in normal language refers to the 'Inferior' version.

All current day multi-plat engines like Cryengine, Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed engine, GTA engine, COD engine, all of them are designed for parallel development meaning there is no 'PORT'. However, there is a catch, as the engines render the same stuff parallely on both meaning both get equal content... It won't be a case where PS3 gets some more High Res Textures since Blu-Ray can store more or some advantage to the 360 since it's GPU is unified architecture, but it also won't be a case where the games are just ported from X to Y meaning Y suffers a lot since it ain't optimized.

no one is gonna sit and develop games from scratch for both consoles and optimize 1 for it's benefits and the other one for it's... It would be costly, take more time and would really spark off a fanboy debate over 1 version getting better content. Thats the truth. At least we are now nearly out of the phase of inferior ports.. Hopefully.

[Ju]

I would still think, that if the art department delivers high res assets (textures and polygons) and the technical artists scale that for the proper platform you can get maximum performance on both ends. But that exposes two different engine front ends to the art queue. Exactly what multiplatform engines try to avoid. Same with shaders and "micro-programs" to, e.g. post process raw art and pre-"compile" it for the proper engine. I think that is doable, but it requires a little bit of an adjusted workflow, not just in the SW departments.

[Ludakriss]

Well thanks. You know. My thought on the whole LETS SEE WHO'S GOT BETTER TECH is just so people could finally JUST PLAY! You know. Better yet. Maybe Microsoft AND Sony fuse. Kinda like a true meaning of multiplayer. A console against console would be accessible and you could have cyber-friends from another platform. Wouldn't that be tasty?

[Pennywise]

Hi, Frank... Some companies can not afford to have two teams working on two separate versions of the same game... This is why leading on the PS3 is so important for those companies. The quality of a game lead developed on the PS3 and ported to the 360 is higher than the opposite.

[zoks310]

With this generation coming to an end no doubt developer are looking at how to save money and invest into next generation of consoles at the same time, and to be honest the PS3 allows them to do this. The PS3 future proof build will most likely allow devs to develop on the PS3 and port over to the next Xbox or the next Wii and eventually the next PlayStation.

So in essence Sony sacrificed launching the PS3 when the 360 launched to allow their engineers more time to build a console that will give them a head start into the next generation, and now we see 3rd party developers taking advantage of that early bridge into the next gen of consoles all while saving money.

[Silver360]

come out with a gig or more of ram you are telling me the PS3 will be able to run these games
The console is not future proof it is the most powerful console right now, but that doesn't make it future proof. The year long delay was not for hardware improvements, but for costs and blu-ray implementation. Remember the original design called for two cell chips. The extra one had to removed because of cost. And to be honest two cell chips would have rocked, oh well maybe for ps4.

[Pennywise]

"The year long delay was not for hardware improvements, but for costs and blu-ray implementation"

Blu-ray implementation is a hardware improvement.

Also, any new consoles coming out will need at LEAST a gig of ram and the most powerful hardware available. It will cost over $600.00 and still not be enough of a reason for consumers to upgrade. I know I will not upgrade my PS3 until there is a reason to.

[hazeblaze]

Of course it's the right platform to lead on... By leading on the most powerful system, it's easier to port to the 360, period. We saw this years ago w/ Burnout Paradise being an excellent example. And more recently Batman:AA. Games that lead on the PS3 simply tend to run better.

[THC CELL]

http://www.computerandvideo...

then i hope the next call of duty team do the same
even tho i am sick of seen call of milk

[madpuppy]

Developers are doing concerning the PS3. The bad old days of Gabe Newell smugly dismissing the PS3 architecture as trash and bad ports are just about over. Now, everyone seems to be either coming to terms with developing for the cell and seeing the benefit or backpedaling previous statements and saying that multi-core processing is the future.

[XabiTheHumble]

Definitely a step in the right direction, now they need to focus on getting that extra uphm on Blu Ray. There is no need to waste all that extra space just because the other platform doesn't have it.

[jimmins]

Know why this story is still 0 degrees? I think N4G is broken.

[nix]

and it shows only "2" comments.

[DigitalAnalog]

It's "0" degrees because there are still people living in "2006".

-End statement

[Jerk120]

It takes a while to update itself.

[mookins]

Uh-oh...what's this? The PS3 is moving on up. :)

[Gamester101]

Logical stuff. This doesn't mean much in terms of 360vPS3 multi-plat game quality, that difference will remain negligible, regardless of whether it's favouring the 360 or the PS3.

But this does look like it will stop any Bayonetta fiascos from happening again..

[bjornbear]

work with the PS3 to ensure quality, then downgrade it / adapt it.

[galmi]

I dont really care what a game looks like, all am for is gameplay, regardless of how good a game looks its only nice for the first few hours after that the next question is, is the gameplay nice enuff?if it aint then the graphics dont mean s**t, regardless of what the future holds, lets all just hope for better games in terms of looks and gameplay, though I sort of agree that MS needs to step up their game too, make a new console that's all there is to it.

[Dorfdad]

Honestly this isn't going to happen this Gen. OR should I say too little too late.. We are almost 5 years into the "NEXTGEN" console cycle and new development teams are already working on games for 2013 and beyond (2013 is when I think new consoles will come around) 2014 at latest.

People already have huge investments in the 360 training, and tools to make a whole new switchover. Sure some new iP's might change but the bulk 50%+ will stay on the 360 as the main console and port to ps3 this gen..

Next gen is a different story.

[InfectedDK]

The PS3 will dominate EU in the coming 2 years, I bet :)
So why not start on the PS3 anyway.. Great "news"..

[Tempist]

A little late, but welcomed none the less.

[The Wood]

they'd probably predicted that the ps3 would end up as the dominant console for hd games. When the 360 was so far ahead it made sense to lead with it but now it seems leading with the ps3 yields better cross platform results in terms of parity. I'd also factor in the great work and games that sony's 1st/2nd parties have produced...not saying all devs have the same resources sony have but they have show what can be done if a little extra time and effort is applied. The point now is that same 'little extra' is a lot less than what it used to be therefore leading on the ps3 isnt such setback so to speak. Sony had to pull their fingers out to help many devs which in term helped them produce better performing games more efficiently...maybe

[yoshiro]

this just shows how valve is ridiculous, if everyone can work with ps3 architecture, why valve keep saying its dificult?...i call them simply fanboys.

[Jerk120]

How are they ''fanboys''? They definitely prefer Microsoft, but that doesn't make them fanboys.

[Biggest]

If people here can be called fanboys for stating simple preferences, I would say that the leaders at Valve are the kings of fanboys. They actually lose money. Millions of dollars are lost by stating and practicing their preference.

[JD_Shadow]

They are called into question also because of the language they use for it. They seem ready to insult our intelligence all before flip-flopping and teasing the fanbase into thinking that they are ready to take the plunge. Either their fanboys or they are not wanting to admit that things have changed and are electing for their minds to be closed.

When you think about it, Valve's the only major third party dev that is still holding on to that thought, and haven't even tried to make any inroads otherwise. The recent stories that are coming out about Portal 2 and the questions beginning to come out of the mainstream of "why isn't this going to be on the PS3, too, Valve?" should be saying that the stubbornness is starting to catch up to them, and people are starting to wonder as to why they haven't taken the leap yet (remember that they are developing Steam for the Mac, too).

[GAM3R7l]

The same could be said about Insomniac.

[UP]

I think developer can choose to work on any platform they want and to be exclusive. However when they constently attack the platform they are not working on like Valve has to ps3 thats being a fanboy. Insomniac never attacks the 360 and never have. Ted Price has a 360.

[SKCShifty]

lol.

[Dnied]

I'm actually quite curious...

I've heard recent games being lead on the PS3, what are some examples?

I'd say the closest game to touch an exclusive game with a first party studio would be BC2 but even then, it just lacks some things that keep it from being way up there graphically on the PS3. I'm under the impression this was lead on the ps3 though? any more examples? (actually wondering lol)

Honestly it's great to hear developers do this and all, but I'm really getting tired of developers claiming they've used PS3 to its full potential when games like UC2, GOW3, Killzone all prove otherwise.

Is anyone else annoyed by this? I mean Crytek being one, I don't know a whole lot about the software they're using to create the game but I find it hard to believe they're taking advantage of all 8 SPU's as efficiently as say, Naughty Dog while using the SAME software to develop the game for PC and XBOX simultaneously.

[jetlian]

you can max a system on day 1. its all about how efficent it is more than anything. Also you have to factor whats the game trying to do

[Biggest]

Maxing a system isn't a very brag-worthy accomplishment. Especially for console developers this early in a console's lifespan. When the life of PS3 is winding down we can look back and see who maxed the PS3 while also being incredibly efficient. Think God of War 2, but for the PS3. No one is close to that kind of achievement yet.

[TheHater]

I think this video get my point across

[Elvfam511]

Lmfao "I love this company yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh"

[Dnied]

+ bubbles.

ps. Does anyone have 4 yet? lol

[Jerk120]

Not that I know of.

[Silver360]

i think dusty said three is max bubbles

[peeps]

it makes sense though.

a few years back developers made games for 360 and ported to ps3, often resulting in poor ports on the ps3. as the devs got more experienced the ps3 versions got much closer to the 360 and in some cases surpassed the 360.

pretty much though, developing for the ps3 first and then porting to the 360 ensures that both versions are just as good as each other.

[jetlian]

jipping 360 ownwers to keep the playing field even.

[peeps]

not really when you consider most games that were developed on ps3 first look better multiplat games than the multiplats where 360 was lead.

[jetlian]

mirriors edge or ghostbusters =)

[Ironmantrunx]

That was a really well written, and informative article, very neutral as well with good use of quotes.

[fr3d0]

the 360 loses its last miserable 'advantage' over the ps3?

namely the inane lens of truth articles where the 360 supposedly has better looking this and that when zoomed in 400x

[HungPHAT]

Lead on PS3 equals win win for both consoles I own , there's no doubt game makers are
moving towards the PS3 these days , remember Microsoft said 5 years ago the life cycle for them was 4-5 years then it's time for a new console ! But world wide
economy in the toilet and MS not going Blu-Ray means more of the same on 360 till things level off and I bet will see a 360 slim at E3 ! Bank on it , Im going this year so I'll be right there with all the breaking news . Happy Gaming everyone

[Redempteur]

when you can make games like uncharted 2 , killzone 2 or lbp , of course it will motive somle devs to embrace the PS3 ...

not that i mind ..since the starts guys like criterion proved that PS3 as the lead platform is better for everyone

[JagX22]

PS3 rocks the party

[8thnightvolley]

since if its another format it will heavily downgrade the quality of the ps3... so its always best to lead on ps3 so ensure the quality is even across all platforms since the 360 is more adaptable to coding.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Too bad majority of N4G are fans of consoles, not games. If the game is good, I will buy.

[thedizzle23]

ps3 is the most powerful system out there now that is why devs atre switching tio leading on the ps3 so that they get the hardest workl out of the way before porting over to xbox and/or the pc for multiplat games

[Silver360]

has ram limitations ie a developer has a set memory size for different applications. i think it is only 40 megs of ram for sound. the 360 has assignable memory so the developer can make the 360 ram line up with the ps3 ram. therefore better to lead with ps3 and just adjust the 360 to fit. just picture the 360 as the lead platform you make a game that uses a sound file that needs 60 megs then try to put that on the ps3 you get a crappy screen tearing frame dropping port.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

Too me I think most DEV isn't taking a chance to utilize the PS3 full potential. Cause they only care bout their own sales. Most multi platform games I look back of the box each time says 720p NOT 1080p and the memory doesn't takes a lot of space still using only DVD-p on it. I have to say that Yoshinori Kitase is right cause games are getting bigger and longer. DEV don't see that they only care bout $$$ even VAVLE could care less bout PS3 cause they know they won't make lots of money off it cause they sell more games like L4D2 on the Xbox 360.

[HungPHAT]

L4D plays good and the coop is spot on ! But you can't get anymore dated old looking game than L4D !

[hi2]

lost planet 2,burnout paradise and i guess soul calibur 4

[GVON]

That was a good read,one thing that stood out.

“There’s been a learning curve, but we feel it’s worth it in the end,” he said. “Multi-core development is the future. It’s not impossible to imagine PCs with 24 cores in them within the next few years, so we figure, why not get going with it now?”

This echoes what Sony said at launch.They said the quicker you learn the cell now,the easier it will be in the future.I always took that "future" as PS4.
Sony are shrinking it down every year,currently they can fit two in the space of Ps3 60gb launch unit,I wouldn't be surprised if they dump 3-4 slightly tweaked Ps3 cells straight into PS4,thats potentially 32 SPU's (it was designed around the idea of scaling up)
The advantage being all code that works now,would work day 1 .And I think the more Sony hear similar comments from 3rd parties,the more likely they'll just add multiple (yet tweaked) Ps3 cell processors.As far as I can tell that would give them insane processing power,as proved by the many science,and military Ps3 clusters being used around the world.

Bring on the next gen of systems I say,I cant wait to see what all the manufacturers bring,it's rock.

[XxDeathDoctorxX]

good

[asdf12]

This should be better for both PS3 and 360, but i'm concerned about PC games getting the shaft, like GTA4, and possibly Crysis 2.

[Faztkiller]

U can really tell most Hands-on was always the 360 version but lately I've seen more and more it being the PS3 version

[ManiacMansion]

According to Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase...

please.. first of all SE, did you make any good game this gen? lol

[phantomexe]

there still well respected Einstein.....DO U LIKE PIE

[phantomexe]

seen this a comeing long ago

[CryWolf]

PS3 is a real Next Gen console with Blu-ray, free Online, bluetooth support, built in wifi, real kickass Next Gen games like God Of War 3/Uncharted 2 and KillZone 2, Sony thanks you for a Awesome experience with PlayStation I can't wait to see whats you'll do next.

[s45gr32]

Yup you are right the PS3 and PC are the only next gen video-game platforms. Is unfortunate so few gamers see this.

[duplissi]

its actually a pretty good article, i expected the same cheerleading crap that we usually get here on n4g but thankfully this actually wasnt.

oh and you guys could really stop the circle jerk humpfest youve got going over the ps3.....

[asgharagha]

so all xbox games will become sub hd

[divideby0]

there will still be disbelievers and nan sayers about the PS3.... its so obvious now, real gamers dont even pay attention to them anymore...for many is just so refreshing to have many developers now come open with what many of us believed in years ago

[Godmars290]

It doesn't matter if the PS3 is the lead platform, multiplayer titles still wont fully utilize the console's they're on.

[ReBurn]

I agree completely. As long as multiplat devs continue to shoot for the middle it isn't going to matter where development starts. Besides, most of these guys are putting their effort into multi-platform engines, so neither platform is really the lead.

[s45gr32]

There is lots of reasons why the PS3 may end up as the leading platform. One is the blu-ray disc capacity and the DVD format doesn't cut it anymore. Two both third party and first party game developers are starting to master the PS3's cell architecture. Three the development kits for PS3 are finally at affordable and reasonable prices unlike before which were expensive as hell................

[Meryl]

lol that's why bungie went multi they wante to taste that cell power hehe

[i3EY]

Ps3 has best exclusive games...that's why its shifting

[JonnyBigBoss]

I remember when I purchased my PS3 2 friends of mine were telling me that it was hard to develop on and I shouldn't have purchased one.

2 years later, both friends sold their 360s and purchased a PS3, and in that same year Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 come out and become the top 2 best-looking console games to date.

Great history.

[Dayngls]

so in other words, they started using their brains

[Dellis]

CRITERION made it clear a while ago

if you Lead on PS3 first the games will look better on

both consoles.

[MaximusPrime]

Yea its true.

[gamingisnotacrime]

after 3 tp 4 years of multiplatform development, many developers figured out how to use the PS3, and after Uncharted 2 and GoW 3, many developers are itching to be on the spotlight with genre defining experiences and mind blowing technical achivements. If some 3rd party do like R* did with Agent and develope exclusive on the PS3 backed by Sony support, we will start seeing some spectacular games, because even as good as Sony 1st PArty studios are, there are some 3rd parties that are very capable of delivering greatness in massive scale.
Bright future for gamers and the PS3 platform

[LinuxGuru]

The past has shown us that when the PS3 is the lead platform, both versions of a game shine.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

''When you talk about graphics you can see immediately that the hardware of the PlayStation 3 offers a much higher capacity and is much more powerful''

[bigboss777]

well no DUUUH

[Denethor_II]

Although I am a bit of a Sony fanboy logically isn't this great news for gaming as a whole!!

[Figboy]

developing games on the PS3 first, THEN porting to the 360 results in better 360 games. why is that treated like a BAD THING?

it's so funny how times have changed. i remember 2006 at N4G, when me and my fellow PlayStation 3 fans were ridiculed and laughed off the site for making statements like, "once developers get a handle on the PS3, you'll really start to see what it can do!"

PS fans knew it would only get better from 2007 on out, and it DID. multi-platform developers got their heads out of their asses and started to actually put some effort into learning how to code for the PS3, instead of doing the copy/paste job they were doing with PC to 360 ports, then shoehorning that code into the PS3, and wondering why it wasn't running as good.

it's easy (and fun) to say "i told you so," to all the haters and dissenters, but each and every awesome title that gets revealed for the PS3 on a near monthly basis, and articles like this, with more than just first and second party developers touting the virtues of the PS3 as a games platform does that for me also.

i enjoy my 360, and i think it's a great console when freed from the shackles of Unreal Engine 3, but there's no shame in saying that the PS3 is a more powerful console, especially when the evidence has been piling up game after game. doesn't make the 360 any less of a great console, with an incredibly strong lineup of games (anyone saying the 360 doesn't have a rock solid lineup this year is being a naive, blind fanboy). it represented the HD era right when titles like Gears of War came out, and it still delivers one of the best online experiences you can buy (actually, the ONLY online experience you can buy. lol. sorry, i couldn't resist).

it's just nice to see the PS3 finally come into it's own, and get the respect it's deserved for a while now.

[SQWERCH]

Once developers seen Killzone and Uncharted they had no choice but to hit the books and learn Multicore Processing, its the future simple as that. Man in the beginning everyone was saying Sony made a mistake with PS3 are sure eating their words now. How smart was Sony to include Blue ray for increased capasity in games and at the same time used the ps3 to win of the other hd process shit i forgot the name all i remember was the colour red like blood and it being killed by blueray lololololol but all kidding aside those japanese guys at Sony hit the bullseye.

[jack_burt0n]

Dont get your hopes up, developing something from the ground up for ps3 cannot be ported to 360 or PC. It just cant, if the toolsets for your multiplatform project can have minimal differences then thats great but you are NOT going to get multiplat titles looking like excluisves on ps3.

If you have an engine chugging out 8 threads on the ps3 where is that going to go on 360!? you just cant do it. But the fact is using just the PPE the ps3 competes with the 360 anyhow but when you have spe's handling AA, Animation, Physics its a different matter. Let alone 50 gigs on a bluray as well.

[SQWERCH]

what do you know get a life, all the developers are doing it for a reason but i guess you know best lol ya rightlolol looser

[hybridtheory12]

No surprise, console is a powerhouse

[roguewarrior]

more articles like this, instead of top 10 best breasts in gaming

[jimmins]

We were going to do top ten gaming nipples next :P

[roguewarrior]

put that chick from Heavy Rain at #1 ;)

[Obama]

well it's been half a year and UC2 still holds the crown for best graphic. PS3 is a powerhouse period.

[Djinn]

This is why FFXIII was so awesome on the PS3!

[polestar4]

If you are the best at something you will win.The same thing gos for gaming in ever fashion.If you can push the bar past ever 0ne you will be seen by ever one evan the na Sayers as the best.

[SephireX]

This is an obvious statement. Anyone who thinks the 360 can match the PS3 is either high, delusional or dumb. I'm not a graphics whore but 360 fanboys need to play either Killzone 2, GOW3 or UC2. Maybe then they would understand what the PS3 is capable of. It's good that multi-plats are now in lead development on the PS3. Though the 360 is still dragging multis down because of poor disk capacity (DVD9) and no mandatory installs (no mandatory hard disks). This will really hold the next GTA back. If it wasn't for the 360, you could see a GTA game with a huge map covering both London and Paris where you could fly between both cities without a loading time. That's because of blu-ray's huge capacity. Though that can't happen this gen because the 360 is limited to its last gen DVD9 format. The 360 is essentially reducing the potential quality of multis for PS3 owners. Dan Houser spoke out about the lack of a mandatory install on the 360 and said it was one of the 360's most major flaws. Seeing as 360s work without any hard disk, developing a game that required a mandatory install could mean a lot of people wouldn't be able to play it. As such, the overall performance of each multi game is marred with longer loading times and poorer frame-rates. We only have M$ to thank.

[acere]

im can tell all the xbox360 owner notice the console they buy is inferior and wanting to upgrade to a tru hd console the PS3, yuall going love the free network and the web surfing and the many many exlusives every month.

[MetalFreakMike]

I love the PS3 and I'm glad 3rd party developers are finally making the PS3 version just as good or slightly better then the 360 version. 360 will still have great looking games but people have to give PS3 games credit for games like GOW3, Uncharted and upcoming games like The Last Guardian and GT5. These games look amazing and set new benchmarks in gaming.

[ImmortalLegend]

If leading on the PS3 gives us better games, then I'm all for it!

[0LDSCH00L]

I fully support PS3 as lead platform. However, all this "PS3 much more powerful"
BS is just hyperbole.

[ReBurn]

I believe that the PS3 has shown what it is capable of. As far as the lead platform for multiplats, as long as the developers are striving for mediocrity it isn't going to matter what platform is in the lead. I'm looking at you, Activision. I'm looking at you, EA. If one platform truly is more powerful, then do what you did last generation and make a superior version. If the games are good the sales will come.

For exclusives this isn't an issue. In the last 18 months the majority of the games I've purchased have been PS3 exclusives. They've just been that good. I'm still looking forward to Crackdown 2, but not sure what else the 360 is going to bring my way.

[bviperz]

where we go from here. Totally borrowed that from The Matrix.

[Tsar4ever01]

People are finally getting it. the PS3 and it's unique fancy inards are finally starting to get some appreciation. It's all about multicore tech. That's not to say the the x360's not multicore too..........

[fatlifeforlife]

devs are deciding to lead with strength

[Shendow]

PS3 is by far the most powerful gaming system, a PC person can even tell you that the PS3 is more powerful do to the Bluray and Cell.

360 is more powerful then the PS2 an almost as powerful as the PSX ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

But the most powerful HD systems are 360 an PS3, now if both could come together to make on powerful beast, then I think will could see Nintendo dieing.

[Odin777]

It's about time...There's no excuse for sh**ty ports anymore.

[ManGastaS]

Just coz 5 devs are working first with PS3 it does not mean everyone is doing the same!
The most important franchises still on 360 first!

[Theonetheonly]

The thing the ps3 cell is best at is Transcoding video.
Everything else is up for speculation.