Rumor: Xbox 360 to drop price by $100 across all SKUs on August 1st, Major Canadian retailer says

After recent comments by MS on Xbox 360 price cut plans, the rumors of sooner-than-expected price drop have filled the internet and now MaxConsole reports:

"A major Canadian retailer has confirmed that the Xbox 360 is set to receice an Official $100 price drop across all Skus as of August 1st. That will mean that the Xbox 360 core will retail for $199 (with a pack in memory unit) and be even cheaper than the Wii at $249 USD."

[P4KY B]

I hope Europe gets a drop too.

[paul_war]

We will probably get a price increase!

[Also Known As]

The sony boys must be sh1tting in their pants right now, muahaha. :-p

there will probably be a denial on the part of MS but it will happen

EDIT:
prediction
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if MS actually does this, by the end of the year i see the 360 installed base hovering @ around 20 million easily.

EDIT 2:
To the idiot below me:
my response to your response of my comment. aaaah....you're an idiot.

EDIT 3
HERE IS PROOF THAT THIS SITE IS RUN BY SONY FANS
this story has over 50 comments and this one "E3: Assassin's demo rushed because of Bungie" has only 20something and yet is hotter and already up on the headlines section.

[marinelife9]

Why would you tell everyone 2 weeks ahead of time? Are you trying to kill your sales for the next 2 weeks while everyone waits. I'm still not buying it until they put in the 65nm processors.

[tehcellownu]

1.2 - not really it just mean more defective hardware is goin to be in people house hold.lol..and who would buy a piece of crap..buyin a sytem that will die on u isnt a smart choice..even when its a 100 dollar cheaper..

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Also guy whoever you are..they are not even making 20 million xbox this year

[Vavoom]

duh! The install base is aready at 11 mil.

[sony fan]

http://www.ps3power.com/xbo...
Sony's answer!

[JustCallMeDaddy]

you can pick one ps3...

or inestead take 3 xbox 360 core systems. lmao
or 2 xbox 360 premium systems. lmfao

[Bill Gates]

No thanks. I'll wait for the 65nm chip, or just buy the same games for the PC and play them on my 42" 1080p HDTV hooked up to my comp. Most likely the later, thank you.

Those $199 consoles will be all USED refurbished ones anyway...HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA

IMO, the Xbox 3FixMe is not even worth $50....HAHAHAHAHHHA

[EDIT] @ Also Known ASS above me - Well it's about time they do a price drop. IT'S ONLY BEEN ALMOST 2 YEARS...hahahaha

[Odion]

lol isn't it funny they didn't have to cut the price in 2 years!

[TruthHurts]

isn`t it funny that the ps2 DID.

wow. you just say thing to say them.

@all

the ps2 had a price cut 7-8 months after its release.
so give it up w/ the ps3`s early price cut.

ON topic:
this is good new for 360 fans.

@odion (below)
wow, thats funny you must know more about it than JACK TRETTON!

http://media.ps3.ign.com/ar...

proving again how ridiculous you are.

did you even watch what i gave you?

I give you the PRESIDENT of SONY clearly stating what i said.
and
YOU give me numbers from WIKIPEDIA.

i think you just completly proved my point for me.
thanks.

[Odion]

no the PS2 went 16 months with a price drop

EDIT

and once again i make you look like a moron

US$299.99 (October 26, 2000, release date) (CAD$449.99)
US$199.99 (May 14, 2002) (CAD$299.99)
US$179.99 (May 13, 2003, "temporary" pricing) (CAD$249.99)[1]
US$179.99 (August 18, 2003, official pricing)[2]
US$149.99 (May 11, 2004) (CAD$179.99)
US$129.99 (April 20, 2006) (CAD$139.99)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[ArduousAndy]

But I think you both are right and wrong
n May I started a Game Console Timeline. Here is the latest version.

August 28 2002 - Sony and Microsoft announce 17% price cut in Europe
June 25 2002 - Video games industry on track for projected increase of sales by 12 percent to $US31 billion
June 14 2002 - Sony cuts PS2 price to $399.95 in Australia
May 20 2002 - Microsoft announces it will invest $1 Billion in XBox Live game network
May 20 2002 - GameCube price cut in US (25%)
May 17 2002 - Gamecube hits stores in Australia
May 15 2002 - Electoric Arts plans to support Sony PS2 Online Gaming (articles : 1 2 )
May 15 2002 - XBox price cut announced for US and Japan (~30%)
May 14 2002 - PS2 price cut announced for US (~30%)
Apr 23 2002 - Gamecube price cut announced for Australia (~17%), pre-release
Apr 18 2002 - XBox price cut announced for Australia and Europe (38%)
Apr 18 2002 - Microsoft announce lower forecast for FY2002 from 4.5 - 6 Million to 3.5 - 4 Million units
Mar 2002 - XBox hits stores in Europe
Feb 2002 - XBox hits stores in Japan
Nov 18 2001 - Gamecube hits stores in US
Nov 15 2001 - XBox hits stores in US
Sep 26 2001 - PS2 price cut announced for Europe (~30%)
Jun 2001 - PS2 price cut announced for Japan (12%)
Oct 26 2000 - PS2 hits stores in US
Mar 1999 - PS2 unveiled in Japan

Please let me know if you think another date should be included

That is from some guys blog that is dated 8/28/2002 thats the best I can find heres the link

http://richardgiles.net/tag...

and heres a new york times article http://query.nytimes.com/gs...
that adds to the above timeline again take it for what you will its the best i could find.

Sony DID do a price cut but it was year or so later

I think Trenton is just trying to make the cut look better

Also anyone that uses wikipedia as a fact checker needs to be slapped with some sense. How are you going to use a website that anyonce can alter as legit.

[Tabasco]

You may be correct but can we please not use wikipedia as a source. It's not reliable.

[paracardium]

Still won't get one to unreliable.

[darx]

Admit it you never planned on getting one.

[AznSniper]

this just puts a bad image on the xbox cause that just puts an image that it's cheap but unreliable

[Also Known As]

can you say, scared sony fanboy?

to sniper below me:
ive had my 360 for over a year and no problems yet

[AznSniper]

well look at it.....more people will likely buy it and it still has the 90nm CPU so more people will come in with broken consoles again...i don't think it would be wise to do a price drop yet till they get the 65nm CPUs in first

[Captain Tuttle]

Maybe they're doing both at the same time...releasing the 65nm consoles AND cutting the price.

[AznSniper]

they better do that....but i'll wait till it's official so i can get mine

[kewlkat007]

I might wait, since I wanna get an elite. Maybe they might drop that damn Core too. Sony dropped the Ps2 price early last gen so this might have the same effect, with the new chips..if true.

More reliability with the 65n core, and the 3 years warranty against RR defect + the games coming out around that time. Really the best deal.

[Odion]

/dance, they would have reached the mass market price before Nintendo!

[SuperSaiyan4]

Well firstly this doesn't confirm a price cut as Microsoft have not officially announced one but if they do just before X-Mas I think they will sell tons of consoles.

However personally I wouldn't mind getting the new one with the new CPU and GPU 65nm size, but that still won't solve the DVD noise problem because that is really loud.

Am looking at the Elite but £330 is too much.

[R69L]

You guys do know MS said that the new chip is coming out this year arouund August,so if this is true it might be what MS need to stay ahead of the game.

[AznSniper]

where did they say that? could u give me a link?

[DrRage77]

i also remember reading that, so this price drop makes sense if it is timed with the updated 65nm chipsets since they are much cheaper to produce than the current 90nm chipsets

[Mike134nl]

who didn't see that comming

[PS360PCROCKS]

$199 is so cheap for a triple core CPU lol...their is so much tech for that price...it'll be like a $199 PS3 when it happens

[cdzie1]

If this were true, that would be a great value! But.. we'll see.. it's just speculation until I see it in the store at that price.

I wonder if they'll cut the HD DVD drive price too?

[DrRage77]

that would be really nice if htey dropped the hd-dvd drives also to around $129 since standalones are rumored to drop to $199 for the holidays

[Syko]

$100 down, While the same day Sony will be in the process of going up $100. Ironic, Don't ya think.

The pack in Memory unit makes the Core 1 notch above suck now ;)

[Crazyglues]

I am seriously worried about this being true, As a Sony PS3 fanboy I think that kind of price cut could be the nail in Sony's coffin.

I mean right now we are already having enough trouble trying to get the games to come out on PS3, and then get them to be as good if not better then 360 which is not happening right now.

but if you cut the price of 360 and with the launch of halo 3 right around the corner, then I would say this is going to make it hard to compete.. that $100 dollars off is a sweet deal for new gamers..

and with all our blockbusters Killzone2 , and MGS4 coming out in 2008 this is going to be Microsoft's Christmas if this turns out to be true.

[Syko]

Bubbles for being a fanboy, But not a douchebag. Appreciate it.

[THAMMER1]

I smell the fan boy pee pee already. They are going to just piss all over them self if the rumor is true.

[cdzie1]

Kudos to you for actually making good points and not just screaming childish lines like “Microsoft sucks!” As an 360 fan, trust me, I’ve had my share of downs this week too!

[kewlkat007]

regardless your aPs3 fan, like stated, get your point across, without bashing red ring jokes. Everyone deserves a chance to speak whether you like 1, 2 or 3 consoles, I'll take the wity fanboy comment anytime over dumb jokes, that bring nothing.

+1

[razer]

Crazyglue I think your post just competely renewed my faith in "hardcore" fans of a certain console can be level headed.

Bubble for you!

I do agree it will be great for the Xbox, but not a nail in Sony's coffin.

[Watching_N4G]

If this happens count me in to buy another 360.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

LOL.

Bill shut up you lemming you have your blinders on so you can't see which Sony exec. is taking turns f**king you in the ass.

M$ actually gives a price drop, and fixes their hardware.
Sony gives a fake price drop meant only to boost dismal sales.

Weak. E3 helped, but not enough droids.

Sony has put themselves into a hole of epic proportions.

[R69L]

Here you go AznSniper.
http://blogs.mercurynews.co...

[AznSniper]

err....it just said it will likely be put out in the fall....but who knows anyway....they probably could have gotten it in early

[R69L]

Azn you do know fall start in sept.

[Honcho]

A hundred dollars seems a little much considering the 1 billion they are investing towards the warranty issue. I have a ps3 and a 360 and like them both. Microsofts gaming department is hurting right now financially and this will not help. They are still selling well right now and with all these new good games coming out in the next couple months, will definitely be more then enough to sell units.

[Also Known As]

What do you think you're smarter than microsoft? They're going for the jugular baby. It's over.

Oh yeah and stop impersonating a 360 owner you know youre a sony fanboy. I bet now you'll post some random pic you found on the net to try to prove that you do own a 360.

[tplarkin7]

The report said a memory card was included, too! If this rumor proves true, MS will win the console race for this generation.

[TruthHurts]

so people can be pissed off they cant play the games people on the elites/premuims can.

the CORE is their curse, not their gift.

if your poor, go for it.

[riqued]

Cheaper than Wii?

This is a Fanboy rumor, M$ CAN'T lower the price in ALL SKU or they are gonna lose much more money than they can...

Maybe they make the core cheaper, but the rest will stay the same.

[DrRage77]

the production costs will drop significantly when you move from 90nm chipsets to 65nm chipsets. about 6 months ago a report came out saying that it costs microsoft $323 to manufacture an xbox360, so if costs dropped a bit since then, and then the chipset change comes in around august, then they definitely can afford to do it since they are already making money on selling the consoles themselves

[bizzy12]

elite here i come 379 is a steal oh and sony price going back up once they get ride of them 60 gigs model to 600 hundred oh halo3 mass effect bio shock,iptv,gta4 plus new content next year

[Watching_N4G]

And let me add this food for thought...who will get all the GTA4 fans to buy their system?

XBox 360 Core $199 + GTA4 $60 = $259

PS3 $599 + GTA4 $60 = $659

$400 friggin dollar difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You could then still have money left over to buy a Wii and some games and still have money left over.

Since the 60GB PS3 will be gone by then and discontinued.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

Ps3 is $499

[Scions Wrath]

Looks to me like an act of desperation. I mean c'mon Sony humiliates microsoft at E3 2007 then all of a sudden a price drop? Hmmmm....

And microsoft has missed they're sales targets twice in a row!

And theres hardware reliability, NOT TO MENTION PROFIT!

[tplarkin7]

Microsoft focused on this year, unlike Sony. Sony has you excited for stuff you won't see for 18 months. The desparation is by Sony. PS3s aren't selling and they're too expensive to produce. Therefore, Sony drops the price on the old model and maintains the price for the new one. That has never been done in history for any product whatsoever. Sony is fighting Sony and losing.

[kingjkv]

Well larkin this year is not enough. You need to be prepared for the future. That's why the ps3 has killer apps this year and next year.

[rain1971]

Wouldn`t take a 360 even if it was FREE. I wouldn`t spend time buying the games and the accessories (yes microsoft say YOU use OUR stuff, ear pieces, wireless adapters all with MS stamped all over them) and then the machine breaks (because it will) I`d rather spend money on a ps3 with it`s use any manufactures product with ours.

Besides, however much they reduce it, 9gb is still your limit.

[BoneMagnus]

My prediction was Thanksgiving...

But dropping it in August would help secure the GTA crowd who buy a console just to play GTA - and there are a lot out there!

Adding a memory unit to the core is a VERY smart move - should have been done sooner. I was irritated that a memory card was not included in PS1/PS2 - because it is a necessary piece of hardware and adds to the actual price of the console.

At any rate, things are becoming increasingly interesting!

[cdzie1]

Even if this now means MS will break even or lose money on every system, just think of what the average 360 owner will buy:

1-3 games $60 each
Xbox Live Gold $50
Xbox Live Arcade Games ($5 to $15 each)
Steering Wheel or HD DVD attachment $100-$200
Extra Controller $50
Movies & TV shows $3-$5 each

This would be a genius move by them. They make more money after the system is sold than they do when someone buys a 360.

To the jerk below: riqued - "Who is idiot enough to buy a 360 with a HD DVD?"

- Idiot? No, I own every system and all the latest tech (including a PS3). Checkout my profile. Funny, I'm rich enough to buy whatever I want and I still prefer 360 and HD DVD. What does that tell you about which is better?

[riqued]

Who is idiot enough to buy a 360 with a HD DVD?
Its almost the same price of a ps3 with blu-ray, the obvious winner...

[Blankman]

haha after all the good news for sony with e3 and killzone and ps3 sales increase. The xbots finally come out to play. LOL well 300$ to $600. Sony should be feeling really stupid now. I know its about minimizing losses but at the cost of loosing console war. I don't think so

[pshizle]

i believe people will buy the cheaper product

just look at the wii

if xbox get -$100 towards their system they will shut down sony for good and a price drop for the HD DVD that would be great

i think the -$100 will not hurt M$ because in the end the customer will buy the hardware and the games for it

xbox360 has the best lineup of all time for games this year and im buying 6 games this holiday season [thats a first for me]

[benny o klaatt]

if this comes to uk im getting a core! it aint a tard version in my eyes cos this baby will be in my bedroom acting as a media extender! btw did ya know you can now boot to media centre like you could dash or disc?

[carlman23]

PS3 price drop = great! 360 price drop = great! Get over yourselves. If your favorite console (360 or PS3) is so great, than it doesn't need your pansy-little whining and complaining to make it look good. Let them stand on their own merits...

[big_tim]

Then the over priced Wii will have to come down. It is the only one I have waited on because it is way over priced. I can't justify spending 250 on a gamecube 1.1. I said the same thing about the price of PS3 until I got one for under the price of a 360 premium with a 80 gig HD included. With this drop it will bring the other two units down making it better for those who haven't purchased them yet.

[Monchichi025]

They just announced the Halo 360 edition at $300 in September at E3. They will probably wait till this whole defective issue smooth down a little bit more before bringing it to the masses.

And to all you haters...THE 360's HAVE ALREADY BEEN FIXED WITH NEW CHIPS!!!! Smooth sailing from here on in!

[carlman23]

But they've now got more secure thermal paste and better heat sinks. The drives have also been modified for improved stability.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

If this is true, I will get a Core system as a backup.

[Sphinx]

I will go out and buy a second 360 the same day the price drops, just so I can link two together and play Crackdown with my wife.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

wow good for you

[psycho360]

I already have 2 but only one 50" HDTV :( can connect to my 19" WS Monitor though, but since i'm divorced and broke up with gfs so i only play alone. I like it this way.

[SILV3R_]

I think I'll wait for the new CPU.. if that's all also real.

If this article is real. Then I GUESS instead of M$ calling for a recall, they want customers to buy what's outside. If you get the bad one, then send it back to M$.

Nice move M$. money money money.

BTW if Canada retailer announced this then why is the currency in $USD?

[Bloodmask]

It will spell only bad things for PS3. Both Wii and 360 will both be at mass market prices, and PS3 will be over twice the competition.

When families go out shopping for loved ones this Christmas and see all the options they have on consoles. Most gamers care about mass market games like Madden and GTA they will be able to get them both on 360 for $200. Or on PS3 for $600.......

I wonder which one they will pick.

[Adamalicious]

Canadian $ != US $ (a Canadian dollar doesn't equal a US dollar)

[BenzMoney]

The Canadian dollar is trading at around $0.96US today.

So $1CAD = $1.04US.

Big deal.

[dantesparda]

You mean

$1CAD = $0.96 Cents US

[Adamalicious]

Sure. I'm just saying it's weird that a Canadian Retailer is supposedly releasing pricing info in USD when they don't use them in Canada. Why not Pounds Sterling? Yen?

Just makes it seem less credible.

[BIadestarX]

Now... all microsoft has to do is drop the 20GB hard drive to $50-60 (Price of a game).
I knew this was going to happen... Microsoft was not going to allow the inevitable comparison between the elite($479) and the PS3($499)... since it's a given the PS3 have better value... I mean even if you are planing to use it just for watching blu-ray movies until the big hitters (Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Lair, Kill Zone 2, etc).

I don't think Sony can compete against Microsoft or Nintendo in terms of price.. the PS3 has more expensive components... but dropping the price of the PS3 by $100 was great for the people that wanted a blu-ray player and for those gamers that can't wait to play those AAA exclusive PS3 games (I'm one of them).

I don't think Sony should go head to head against microsoft and start dropping price like crazy. It's obvious that the PS3 it will apeal more to hardcore gamers and the people that love movies and are willing to spend on their entertainment home theatre. Specially now that they have the blu-ray advantage over HD DVD. Concentrate on bringing games to the hardcore gamer..keep bringing games like Killer Zone... And they will make their money... besides if Sony wins the format war (Blu-ray) they don't have to sell as many consoles as they did with the PS2.

I think Microsoft is going to go after Nintendo's market...
Notice this has nothing to do with which console is better... but let's be realistic... casual gamers or parents are not willing to pay $499 and then play games like Killer Zone and Metal Gear.
Let's not forget how many PS2 console sony sold after it hit below the $200. And though the PS3 will have games targetted to cusual gamers or kids; in reality they are not console sellers.. (wait let me make myself clear) No Parent or Casual gamer will not buy a PS3 just to play Little Big planet... instead for the most part.. people or parents that already have a PS3 will buy these games.
Combination of price and games is the key to conquer the casual/kids market. Let's not forget that playing games is not on the top list of the casual gamer...

[Covenant]

Wow.

IF Sony "re-raises" their price with their SKU change (back to $600)...

And IF the Wii stays scarce, as is likely...

And IF the 360 gets a price cut across the board....

And IF MS is able to recoup some of the goodwill lost over defective systems, and bring consumers back...

(Lots of IFS there...)

Then MS will own Christmas 07, with plenty of momentum for 2008.

[Mr VideoGames]

we'll Damn im Surprised, MICROSOFT has really HIT BACK HARD this time (if this Article tells the truth that is) Microsoft REALLY MADE A TRULY GENIUS MOVE but if the WII drops to $150 Dollars they will be in the GAME as well lol Nice Job MS!

[TheMART]

If this happens with a 100 dollar/euro cut instead of 50, Sony is dead.
It'll just be dead.

Imagine indeed the choices:

playing GTAIV on a

360
Core: 200 dollar
Premium 300 dollar
or an Elite if you like it for 379.

OR

GTAIV PS3

PS3 500 dollar/euro (or even 600 in a package in EUrope not the low priced PS3)

Damn... And then get the 2 exclusive episodic content downloads for real fans.

Play Assassins Creed and all those other multiplatform games for about half the price then the direct competitor, about the same quality and at this time mostly better quality. Even get UT3 and Haze, although a bit later, but still... Only real exclusives PS3 1st party. MS got the most, plus:

200 dollar/euro is where the mass of people will buy.

Christmas, the 360 will be all over the world selling like hell then. This will get insane selling out of shelves totally empty if true. Major pwnage. I am looking forward to August to see if its true or it'll come later. A pricecut will come, 50 is nice but 100... INSANE

@ idontcare (below)

That's you and a few other diehard idiots that pay a lot of money for less.... But the mass of people won't. And THOSE people decide the consolewar. In favour of the 360

[felidae]

if i want a ps3 .. i want a ps3 - no matter how much the 360 is.

now that you see that ps3 games look hotter than 360s you have to bash the ps3 on another level. dude, get a life.

[Dudeson42]

A 199.99 core system is a HUGE weapon in a console war.

[Syko]

Yeah this Console War will soon be locked tighter than Hillary Clinton's pants....If this is true.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Syko you reminded of that South Park episode, Hilary with a bomb

[XENOCIDE]

Well, since I'm in the market for an Elite, I'll bid my time n' see what happens. It seems too good to be true, but I'm HOPING it is. We'll see, I don't need a 360 'til Sept. anyway, but I've gotta get one by then. Hell, they drop the Premium to 3 dollar's then I may say fk the Elite altogether.

[PSN Starfleets]

Sony will now HAVE to react to this. It's pure and simple. They will have to cut it to $400.

And we ALL KNOW that will happen sooner or later, it's just a question of when. And this rumour, if true, will mean its sooner.

The PS3 will the generation if it's only a $100 more. And every 360 fanboy knows this.

Thank you,

[TheMART]

Too bad the mass of people don't care @ 400 for a PS3 when...

The 360 core will be 199 and the premium will be 299.

They just won't. Thats a lesson learned from the past. Too bad. The war is over! PS3 just started at a too high price point and will not be able to follow the 360 that fast in price.

@ idontcare

You actually proved my point there:

"if you are a real gamer than why you don't wanna play these great games?"

That's you me and some other people that are real hardcore gamers. The mass of the console buying people are CHOSING a platform, not buying them all.

They choose on price first and games second. Those that buy the Wii. Those that bought the PS2 when it got at the right price of 200 dollar... And got the right game: GTA.

Both will be the 360 this fall:

GTAIV best version with 2 episodic content downloads
Pricepoint starting @ 200 dollar

See?

"what do you think will happen? no more ps3? everybody's sellin' their ps3s to buy a 360?"

No, those that already bought the PS3 are those diehards. That buy the console for any price. Not the mass of people. In the end, some may sell their PS3 yeah. You're saying it yourself. You're waiting for games. I already see many PS3 owners that are pissed that the 360 gets the multiplatform games first. And get 3rd party exclusivity support (like the PS2 got last gen) and the PS3 doesn't.

I MIGHT buy a PS3 in the end. Listen. I had many gaming systems since the first out there. Many different brands. I'll only buy a PS3 when it comes down to 300 Euro or less. THat'll be a long time from now. ANd then there will be games hopefully.

"i'm a little pissed cause i purchased the ps3 in march (i live in germany) and now i'm waiting for games - i'm hungry."

Thanks, proved my point again for not buying a PS3. At least not yet for sure.

"c'mon man - be honest. the ps3 is getting more attractive right now and this is good for fans of the system. if you don't wanna play ps3 - ok, fine. but why all the hate for the system dude?"

No I disagree. The combined factors, price, less online system, less games, promisses for the future, good games in 2008... Makes it still a bad choice. It's still: This is waiting!

I am sarcastic, I am harsh. But I'm realistic.

[felidae]

what do you think will happen? no more ps3? everybody's sellin' their ps3s to buy a 360? have you seen the games coming out for ps3? killzone 2, uncharted, ratchet, heavenly sword, lair, .... if you are a real gamer than why you don't wanna play these great games?

i'm a little pissed cause i purchased the ps3 in march (i live in germany) and now i'm waiting for games - i'm hungry.

c'mon man - be honest. the ps3 is getting more attractive right now and this is good for fans of the system. if you don't wanna play ps3 - ok, fine. but why all the hate for the system dude?

i think you really have some good points sometimes. i really think you are an intelligent human being - but when it comes to sonys playstation 3 - you often act like a monkey, sorry!

come down from planet MS and let's talk about games on a level where everbody's cool with it ...

i had some friends and they were like you - and me - i have been like you before. always bashing the other systems to the ground because my system is the best ... but now i know it's so much better to discuss with people and if they don't like my nr.1 game than ok. i've no problem with that.

c'mon MART - you can do it. you're a grown up person and actually someone who really cares about gaming at all.

sry 4 my english (german)

[sumfood4u]

I just wish they would fix there system, so more people who decide to buy this system won't be anrgy if it breaks down so quickly!

p.s. omg I lose a bubble for given positive opinion what n4g comming too?

[ilovepswii60]

microsoft are losing toom much money and will never make any money of the 360s if they cut the 360s this early. They never made any mone of the original xbox and they could be going the same way.

what they should do is drop the core completely.
lower the cost of hard drive so everyone benefits from 1
put the 65nm chips in to maximise profits

I need BUBBLESSSSSSSS

[TheFamilyGuy]

It makes sense for that fact that more consoles sold = more software sold.

Microsoft has two big first part titles coming out this Holiday: Halo 3 and Mass Effect. Most people are going to most likely buy at least one of those, making a price reduction already practically worth it at that point.

Sales of 360, if this happens, would also skyrocket. If people are scrambling for PS3s as they hit $500 (even though there actually a $500 PS3 before the price cut), imagine what is going to happen when MS releases $200 and $300 units! Cheaper even than the Wii.

[NextGen24Gamer]

Do you not understand business? To start a new business and over take a giant such as Sony....You have to have deep pockets and loose money in that area for years. But the rewards is "HUGE"....You get the install base and you become number one. Which you can ride into the future. Dreamcast dissapeared because their pockets weren't deep enough to compete with Sony. Thats it. Microsoft's pockets are billions upon billions deep.

When Microsoft first got into the video game industry. They stated clearly and knew they wouldn't be able to make any real money for the next 8 to 9 years. They knew it would be a financial investment. But they are also very competitive a very savvy business.

When the core does drop to 199 packaged with a memory card....That will be huge in regards to Microsoft dominated this next generation in regards to console sales. They are alredy dominating in regards to "Game" sales...selling more than Sony and Nintendo combined...they are already selling more accessories....But a price cut of that magnitude will increase their already Multi Million console owners lead over both Nintendo and Sony.

Like a few have stated before me.

Core with memory card 200
Assasins Creed 60
GTA 4 60
Halo 3 60
Bio Shock 60
Mass Effect 60
Blue Dragon 60

Total Price 560

That is unbelievable folks. MS will own Christmas and beyond.

I said from the begining that MS's core was a genious idea...and I also said it will be huge when they get the first price drop to that sweet spot of 199...then you couple that with a 3 year warranty to secure your purchase. WOW....

[cdzie1]

You may want to pick up your system today and do a price match when they go down in price (most stores will match for 30 days). If this is true and the news hits, systems may be hard to find. You can always not open it and return it if the price cut turns out to be false.

[NextGen24Gamer]

That is genious....Walmart, Best Buy, EB Games/Gamestop all do price matches within 30 days of purchase. WOW....

I know this is off topic a tad...but for those who think HD dvd is going somewhere within a few months....

1. Walmart will be carrying HD DVD players for under 300 dollars along with dropping blu ray movies. Thats much bigger than Block buster carrying "MORE" blu rays than HD dvd's in select stores....Buying movies drives the industry not renting them...lol...

I'm curious to see which format has been selling more movies the last month or so. HD dvd releases have out numbered BLu ray for 2 months in a row in regards to movies released. And the next few months its the same story.

While ps3 fans are hoping for the death of HD dvd....Because it makes them feel better about their purchase with such little games available....HD dvd isn't going anywhere. But I do understand the Ps3 fanboy mentality....It helps you sleep better at night with your 600 dollar investment if you can at least feel like your purchase is future proof. And I can also understand why you get so defensive and angry when things don't look so hot for your beloved system. Thats a lot of money to throw down the drain. I own both systems. I use my ps3 for blu ray and I use my 360 for games and HD dvd. If one format fails....I will continue to support the winning format and I have no problem taking the 600 dollar hit. But, I am a gamer who doesn't want to miss anything. I don't want to miss Halo 3 and I don't want to miss the next Final Fantasy games. I could care less which console sells more or which format wins. I just call it like I see it from my perspective. And using common sense and not fanboyism generally gets my predictions right on the button.

[xfrgtr]

EliteLiar,you really are a joke,first check out the Nielsen numbers to see the sale of Bluray vs Hddvd:
Week 7/08: BD 66, HD 34 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 60, HD 40
Week 7/01: BD 65, HD 35 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 60, HD 40
Week 6/24: BD 70, HD 30 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 59, HD 41
Week 6/17: BD 64, HD 36 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 59, HD 41
Another proof?
http://www.eproductwars.com...
Another one?
http://www.dvdempire.com/Co...
And Wallmart will receive BLURAY players from FUNAI,and it's official;there is a partnership between Sony and Wallmart
"Attention Wal-Mart shoppers: In the latest high-def bundle deal to hit retail, the big box discount chain is giving away two Blu-ray discs to consumers who buy Sony's BDP-S300 Blu-ray Player at a new low price.

Wal-Mart's price for the Sony player is $488, which represents a new low price record for a Blu-ray player (both the BDP-S300 and the PS3 are available elsewhere for $499).
ADVERTISEMENT

To further sweeten the pot, Wal-Mart is also throwing in two free Blu-ray discs with purchase of the BDP-S300 -- 'Gridiron Gang' and 'Open Season,' both from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment. Combined with the BDA's recently announced "Five Discs Free" promo, that's a total seven free Blu-rays for lucky Wal-Mart shoppers.

The latest deal from Wal-Mart follows a similar promotion at Amazon, tied to the PS3. As we reported earlier this week, that deal sees Amazon customers buying the PS3 receiving a free PS3 Blu-ray remote, a copy of 'Memento' on Blu-ray, plus the BDA's five free discs.

Wal-Mart is offering this promotion to customers online at Walmart.com and in its stores nationwide. The company says the offer is limited and only good while supplies last."
http://www.highdefdigest.co...
ELITELIAR HDDVD IS ON LIFE SUPPORT

[dale1]

there goes another 1 billion plus repairs make that 2 billion and its got to show a profit by march 2008 it could be only a dream

[fjtorres]

...it just got a lot less likely to come in august.
http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

Turns out Sony didn't really cut prices at all; they're just clearing out excess inventory...

Which means Microsoft's wait-and-see position from monday was quite reasonable. Nowadays you have to take everything Sony says with a pound of salt and read the fine print before believing anything they say. MS did and they didn't get suckered into a price cut before they are ready for it. They did nothing and they're still as much as $300 cheaper than Sony.

Gotta say the Sony guys are sure slick, though. Sleazy, but slick...

[gapzi11a]

A price cut + Halo 3 + Mass Effect = One hell of a holiday season for the Xbox360.

[00]

If true.

[okcomputer]

If the price cut is true, AND they release the improved hardware version with the upgraded chip at the same time, I'd pick up a 360 the same day. Mass effect looks almost too good to miss.

[aiphanes]

How are you going to get downloadable content for GTA4? How are you going to buy movies and other downloadable content? You will need a harddrive and it cost $99 more if you buy the core...So the core really is going to be $299 if microsoft lowers the price to $199. The premium price will lower to $299...but you only have a 20GB harddrive with 9 gigs free space....so you will need a bigger harddrive and so you have to get the 120 GB HD for $179...so the Premium price will be $299 + $179 = $469...Or get the core at $199 + $179 for the 120GB harddrive for a total price of $359...so you really have to get the elite for $379 if microsoft really drops the price by $100..

Really the Xbox 360 price is overall at $379 for a good configuration....after this rumor price drop..

All Sony has to do is drop the price of the 80 GB PS3 to $449...and they will compete well. This is what they will do before christmas and it will be perceived as a big price drop...$150 off $599!!! And Killzone 2 is comming out in feburary???

Sony is like the cylons...they have a plan...

[TheMART]

Nope, the core comes with a

MEMORY CARD

And thus you can save your games!

So you're done for 199 Euro then!

@ weekapaugh (below)

Your comment is worthless.

The question is, if a core model is able to play the games and save them. Yes it will. No extra HDD needed.

Memory sticks are still cool. THey're small you can take them with ya to a friend. A HDD is much larger.

Any way:

GTAIV with a 360 core 260 Euro
GTAIV with a PS3 560 EUro

Mmhhhh 300 EUro difference. One could even buy a HDD for 99 Euro and still have 200 EUro to spend on games

PWNED

[okcomputer]

The core isn't really worthless, its just more for "casual gamers" who don't care about downloadable content and just want to play the games. Of course for people like us who're really into next gen gaming, a hard drive is essential to get the most of your console, but to a lot of people downloads won't matter and $199 is a very attractive price point, especially around the holidays when the 360 would be the cheapest next gen console. The wii showed that theres a huge market for the casual gamer, so a $199 price point for the core would be a great move by m$

[weekapaugh]

"Nope, the core comes with a MEMORY CARD And thus you can save your games!"

saving games to a memory card? what is it 1998 all of a sudden?

[zerolinkgannon]

Seriously, M$ doesnt seem to care about money. I mean they have billions so...meh. All it seems like their doing is trying their hardest to defeat sony this generation. Hell, they'd probably give out free 360's just to get their numbers up. Spending a billion or whatever to fix the defect xboxes then a price cut??... Yup, they want sony down hard.

[predator]

ive sed it once and ill say it again, ms will win this crimbo battle, there are to many good games , oh and HALO 3

[Evoluti0n]

If this is true, MS will sell tons. Faulty 360's or not.

[Eagle Eye]

Now dont get me wrong I welcome a price drop. But does 360 really need it?
I mean the 120 gig 360 elite is still cheaper then the 60 gig PS3 which is now their cheapest console. They are still in a good price range to compete. So I dont think its critical that they do it. But it will boost sales if they do. And Peter Moore does know software is what will really move consoles.

[psycho360]

I want the price of HD addon and the HDD to be reduced as well.

[codeazrael]

Even though today it was confirmed that this so called ps3 price cut was simply to clear out current stock to make room for only one ps2 chipsetless 80 ps3 for $599, the overwhelming positive response in sales it gave Sony has forced MS hand to drop the price on all consoles sooner than expected, even though imo by holiday season they were going to drop in price anyway. But no doubt, if it is indeed 100 dollar price drop across the board, this will be huge for Microsoft overall domination of this console war, especially considering that the core will not only be fifty bucks cheaper than the wii, but it will also include a memory pack. Bubbles would be nice.

[IBLEEDBLU]

only if now they will lower the price of towels then i may end up grabbing one hahahahaha

ya ok who are we kidding...id play NES rather a cheap60

[Makroyale]

As long as the new puke green 360s don't have the design flaw, why not?

It might not be as good as the PS3 but who cares!! It's worth it just for Halo 3 and some other bad ported games.

[30ROCK]

First off, they can't afford a $100 price cut if they want profitability like they said - Halo 3, GTA4, Holiday season will bury them into billions more worth of debt in the entertainment division.

Secondly, they would have announced it at E3.

Thirdly, it's 100 Canadian dollars. How would the Canadian retailer receive USD prices? Maxconsole seems to have f***ed up, because PS3 is 499, and 450 in Canadian $ I believe.
100 Canadian decrease from 399 to 299 means its around 285 USD. Enjoy the $15 price cut.

Fourthly, Sony's 60GB stock is 1.3million in NA. It will last far longer than July, and will go until the LIMITED EDITION, key words there, 80GB bundle drops Motorstorm and drops to 399 or 499.
What we know is that there is absolutely NO way the 80GB bundle is here to stay (Limited Edition) and they can't just remove Motorstorm and leave the price, therefore, price cut as soon as 60GB is gone. They also can't make bigger hard drives without changing processes (80GB is the max using one process, anything higher would be more expensive than 60GB or 80GB which cost practically the same).

Fifthly, a 360 price cut will do nothing. The temp hardware boost will come as a result of those big games and the Xmas season. Price is NOT the 360's problem, it's casual games. They've milked out anyone hardcore enough, and the Core is too jipped for the target hardcore to buy, so it'll be ignored as always.

Sixthly, Sony would react instantly to this price drop and cut even MORE since they are and were profitable for many months before this for each PS3 sold. 400 PS3 is MUCH more attractive that 399 Elite or 299 Premium. The casual games and variety are more than enough to blow MS out of the water. Basically if MS drop the price, it's profit suicide, and game over since Sony will just keep dropping. Lose lose for MS.

Finally, Predator, aren't you too ashamed to be even posting after your MGS4 debacle? Mart, you too seem to have crawled out of your swamp. Go back and cower because the good Sony news hasn't let up.
No, Microsoft won't win, this isn't even true. You guys are jizzing over nothing.

EDIT 4 IDIOT BELOW: Sadly Sony, MS & Nintendo don't pay attention to exchange rates.
In Europe for example, each console is 40% more expensive when converting marked prices to USD.

[DaKid]

http://finance.google.com/f...

Looks like 1 CAD=0.955 USD, so I don't have a clue where you got your info from. As for the rest of your post, plz don't blind yourself to prove your point.

[DrRage77]

um, where in the world do you get your "facts" from??? the ps3 is making money on each console sold? are you on crack??? please show us some proof tha tthe ps3 is making money....the last i heard, the ps3 originally cost around $850 to make, and that was at launch...8 months ago. please show us some proof that the ps3 production costs have reduced by $350 for them to BREAK EVEN at the price of $499 that they are selling them now.

you have it mixed up, because it is the 360 that is MAKING money on each console sold. there were articles that came out more than 6 months ago saying the 360 manufacturing costs were reduced to $323 per 360...since a majority of 360's are premiums selling at $400, it is the 360 that is MAKING money, NOT THE PS3. so unless you can provide us with an actual article saying the ps3 miraculously reduced manufacturing costs by more than $350 in 8 months, your statement is completely false.

also, the price reduction on the ps3 is show of desperation on sony's part. to reduce the price of a console 8 months after it's release is unheard of. they need to try to ignite stagnant sales, which it really hasn't done much. the 360 has been out for 20 months, so it is ready for a price drop since most consoles get their first price drop at teh 2 year mark. the 360 makes money, so cutting prices only puts pressuyre on sony since they CANNOT lower their prices any lower than $500....and even their pricecut is not real. the are selling the 60gb ps3 for $499 and in early fall they are releasing the 80gb ps3 for $599...how is that a pricedrop when you are STILL selling your consoles for $499 and $599 price points??

[JIN KAZAMA]

to 99 dollars, then I will seriously consider buying it. With the three year warranty.

[Whoooop]

Look at MART...

Didn't even show his hair in all the good news about the PS3 which proved wrong ALL THE BULLSH*T he wrote..

Now GREAT News of a price cut for the 360 appear (if it's true) and there he is.. Writing BS like a maniac.

Be a man and accept the fact that you were wrong and that's why you were hiding in a hole eating your words.. NAAAAAA

you're way too fanboy to do that. We understand.. :)

[pshizle]

FREAK

[maverick443]

All I can say is this is complete genius. Sony's price drop was obvious to me that it was temporary when announced. Microsoft (like them or not) could seriously dominate if this is true.

[TeaDouble_E]

Didn't they already lose a billion dollars for the 360 ? I dont think they will drop the price when they lost that much money , they need to make ther money back if they can . They also lost a billion from ther last consols .

[incubus5187]

the price drop is good but also they should actually just take the core model off the market it's not even a full console every model should at least have a hardrive especially if they are pushing the dowloads on live .... so i wouldn't celebrate for a console not worth buying especially if it's cheaper than the wii

[pshizle]

does the wii have a hard drive if not

the core xbox would be an amazing deal

core xbox should not go if the price is drop

[pshizle]

and have the price drop

anyways i think it would be good for them

it would put Sony to their last legs this holiday season

360 has the best lineup of games EVER IN GAME HISTORY this holiday season!!! Anyways im buying 6 to 7 games this holiday season how about you???

[the_round_peg]

Do you know how most consumers make their purchase? On impulse when they see the price is cheap. You know how people go to sales. They buy things they have not intended to buy because those things are cheap. That's how impulse buys work, and it often works for consoles as well.

The typical console customer has no idea about the Three Red Rings of Death of Cell or RSX or 60GB or 80GB or whatever. The customer wanders into a store like Wal-mart or Target. He walks by a HD screen and sees beautiful video images flashing on the screen. He stands around for a while and becomes hypnotized by the flashing pictures. Maybe he even gets to play with the demo console and game a bit. Then he sees the price tag for the machine that is running those beautiful HD video images... it is only $199! (It's cheaper than Wee!) So he ends up going home happy with a Xbox 360, and he still knows very little about the console he's just bought.

Make no mistake about it: if the entry price was $499 or $599, he would NOT have been willing to pay at that price to bring those beautiful HD videos home. He would have just said, "wow, nice but pricey," and just walked away... even if he could afford it. He could care less if it was a PS3 with a dozen features or a Xbox 360 or Wii. The $499 and $599 price tag would just not trigger him into a buying mood. Consumers like him accounts for about 70 to 80-percent of the market. That include most of the people who bought a PS2 or another console in the past.

[Ru]

False = 100 True = 50

[Daewoodrow]

Honestly, I have no idea how likely a price drop is. There are practically equal reasons for both a price drop and leaving it be.
Logically, if I were in their position, I would wait for Halo 3 to release and capitalise on the flood of console purchases, then lower the price a month later ready for the christmas period.

[gogators]

they could really push some systems by dropping the price with Halo 3's release. I just don't know how MS can drop the price of the 360 with all the money they lose on repairing broken ones. MS needs a price drop. I still can't believe they have held out this long already. If MS isn't pushing the 20 million sold mark by the end of Christmas, then I see things going poorly for them through out 2008.

[the_round_peg]

Last fiscal year, Microsoft made over 40 billions and paid out 33 billions in dividends. So 1 billion is really just pocket change for Microsoft.

So far this year, before the warranty extension announcement, Microsoft's entertainment and gaming division has actually turned a profit for the first time: about 900 millions. That's why Microsoft decided to wait until July to make the announcement and lose 1 billions. It's the timing. So you work around with the math a bit, Microsoft actually lost about $100 million with the warranty extension.

[TheMART]

First off to all those fanboys crying I wasn't here over the 'good' E3 news on PS3...

I watched all the conferences Live, know exactly what happened. Too bad I was away the last few days also a lot and didn't have the time to react on all the news that was there. So I'll give you my short impression now.

The only thing the news was good this year, was because last years Sony E3 was SO FREAKIN'BAD

This year although many found it a good E3. I will still plea that it was mediocore:

- No 3rd party real exclusive support.

You read it right: UT3 & Haze are timed exclusive. Just because Epic and the developer of Haze know they're better of launching it later on for the 360. Because of the Halo 3 effect. And Epic because Gears is still selling strong. For UT3 and Haze Sony might not even have put up money.

MGS4 Sony guy screamed exclusive. Kojiama didn't say it. Konami just said in an article they're searching for other platforms. I wouldn't be so sure about this one Sony fans

- 3rd party multiplatform games had OLD trailers for the most part. In MS press conference, new footage, onstage showing of demo's, much better stuff. Sony just repeated with old stuff

- Much @ homo shiat. Did you hear what they said also:

'new parts of worlds to pay for and go there'

PAID dudes, your credit card will be checked regularly.

- 1st party support looked good. But still then... Much CG stuff. Inengine a lot but ingame real playable NO!

MGS4? Come on. Inengine maybe, but where is the playable stuff?
Killzone 2? First part like COD3 in the truck. On rails. The playable part, good but not the E3 2005 CGI trailer. Plus its so grey. Who did complain about Gears being with not so much colour? Killzone 2 is worse. Plus we only see much dark footage. E3 2005 had nice blue skies. I bet when the darkness coverup is gone, we'll see the game isn't all that.

It was ok. But if you look close, the MS show only gave games coming out this year. They didn't do the This is Waiting trick like Sony with MGS4, Killzone 2 etc. for 2008.

So yeah. I was underwhelmed. Also by Nintendo and MS. I expected the MGS4 tattoo on Peter Moores arm. I think he'll save that for X07 by the way ;-)

You know BTW all I've written on this pricecut is reality. Facts. And you're scared like sh!t

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I mentioned the lack of color the day Killzone trailer was shown and I called it smoke and mirrors and just a new way for Sony to BS folks. Yeah I do remember Droids stalking sh!t about Gears color palet and your right that its worse in the Killzone 2 trailer. It's not hard to make somthing look good when everything is grey and black without lighting. Your also right about the Halo effect and how this industry likes to avoid it and rightfuly so, it's a powerhouse title and nothing has yet to top it.

[natsfan7]

YES!!!1 That means my 20GB 360 can "Brake" and I can get that Elite I really want for the same price.....if this story is true....

[MasterChief2829]

920 and it's still not in the top 3 boxes or even featured on the front page... wow.

[Eagle Eye]

JEEZ if this is true just imagine if every potential Wii buyer and Wii owner would considering picking up a 360 it would be off the charts.

But who really knows what will happen it depends on the people. The question is are they looking for a good (cheap) deal?
Or do they merely like the weird wii controls? Hmmmm puzzling isn't it?

I guess we'll see what happen, and MS should bundle the core with Halo 3 or Mass Effect.
Or if they wanna be really clever find some family game
(maybe that Viva pianta game? or w/e its called) bundle it with the core and just see what happens.