Pachter: First Activision-Bungie game 'well along' in development, will sell at least 10 million units

Joystiq:

Though firm details about the terms of the Activision-Bungie partnership are still awfully slim, industry analyst extraordinaire Michael Pachter has given his two cents to Gamasutra about the financial potential of the merger, which should result in Activision earning a great deal more than two cents.

First, Pachter suggests this is a publishing partnership instead of a mere distribution agreement, which will increase Activision's profit margins from around 10 percent to anywhere between 15 and 20 percent on all of Bungie's titles. He estimates that, should the developer's future titles be as popular as its Halo franchise (which typically sold 10 million units a piece), they could as many as 15 million units by virtue of Bungie's new multiplatform ambitions. According to his calculations, should it sell 10 million units, Activision stands to make $65 million off the first successful Bungie title

[BubbleSystemSuck]

Clown

[Shadow Flare]

Asshat

[TreMillz]

Let's hope Bungie takes being a multiplatform developer to its full advantage. And please whether PS3 or 360 is the lead console, no F'ed ports!

[BeaArthur]

That's a lot of units for something Bungie develops without the word Halo on the front. I think their first game will be good enough to sell that many units but very few games reach that mark. Also Pachter said it so that makes it even more unlikely.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

atcher, never the one to state the obvious, so I'm a little surprised. I was expecting him to say something like "Wii's version will have dlc...".

[thebudgetgamer]

http://n4g.com/industrynews...

[eagle21]

Mr. Psychic Cleo. :)

[Danteh]

Patcher sucks balls

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PS: New N4G YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DD

[Anorexorcist]

He and every PS3 critic act like they have a crystal ball and state future assumptions as facts.

Unfortunetly for Pachter, he doesn't have an immaculate history in fortune telling: "PS3 will not be able to make a comeback unless Sony releases a Blu Ray-less PS3"

[ikkeweer]

on anything with the word Patcher in it.
I don't hate the guy, but everything he says is pointless to me.

[Downtown boogey]

Love the pic :)

[BeaArthur]

It would be better if something was impaling his head.

[Kingdom Come]

This guy seriously needs to STFU...

[Bathyj]

And in he swoops to weight in with his prophetic wisdom.

Where was your "Bungie will sign with Activision for 10 years" prediction?

I know we would have all laughed, but at least we'd take you seriously now.

[TheTwelve]

Good point. If he had predicted this I would actually have given him props.

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[RadientFlux]

I belive that Bungie's next title will either an RTS or an MMO.

[TheTwelve]

No, I'll be Pachter: "Bungie's next game will be a Japanese RPG."

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[-Ikon-]

MMO mark my words.. Halo on steroids? come on..

[Spawn-KING]

All Tecmo did is changed the name ...
Ninja Gaiden Sigma ......

[Captain Tuttle]

I'm always amazed at the smugness in Pachter threads.

[Bathyj]

ok, I'll be Pachter.

This is all still sinking in for me. Its like I've been in a car accident and I'm in shock. It still doesnt seem real.

I want to know what people think of this. X360 will survuve No Bungie. But will XB3?

Seriously, think about it. Does anyone actually know who owns Halo? Everyone assumes its M$, but Bungie seem to shrewd to give away the rights to their bread and butter franchise. They worked a good 3 years on that game befor M$ had anything to do with it. They really just swooped in at the last minute and bought it for Xbox, with much success.

And remember, everyone said M$ own Gears of War as well but they dont.

The fact is, unless commissioned to make a game, a dev usually owns a new IP til they publish it, and then its up to what kind of deal they work out at the time. The more pull the dev has the more likely they retain the rights.

So my question is, Will XB3 survive without Halo?

[cmrbe]

all the damage control by x360 fans about this news like its something they expected and it's not a big deal when in fact it is HUGE!!.

No one really expected Bungie's next game to go multi. Everyone expected MS to take it up because they have first dip as they say blah blah blah. If x360 fans are honest they will at least admit to this.

Halo is by far MS biggest franchise. Its the franchise that made the xbox as a brand. To have the dev that was responsible for it go multi is huge. That's even bigger than say a PD game on the x360.

Its going to be really tough for MS. The timeing for this announcment couldn't come at worst time for them gearing up for E3. Now everyone will doubt weather Bungie is really focused on Reach and the implacations for reach and its fans and MS is really not good.

Halo as they said has always been about MP and its gameplay. The fact that that gameplay and MP will come to the PS3 is HUGE!!. All the expereince that Bungie gained from Halo will be used on their new IP which will come to the PS3. If anyone dosen't think that this is not huge then they are living in denial. Thats like saying PD using their expereince to create a new Car sim that will be avaliable for the x360 as well is nothing important.

The bottom line is. This move will significantly cut any advantage MS has with Halo gameplay wise and MP to some extent. That is huge and will have a significant impact on the console war.

With Activision marketing. The new Bungie IP will be a huge blockbuster that will really take the shine off Halo as well like COD4 did.

MS are indeed are not in good shape at the moment. Its all their fault to begin with. Now there even talks about Gears going multi. ME i am pretty sure will eventually be on the PS3 as well as SCC. Their biggest mistaak has always been relying on 3rd and 2nd party devs while closing down their 1st party. Sony saw this right from the beginning.

Going in to next gen. I really don't see any real exclusives for the x720. Gears and ME will be gone if not by then while Sony just keeps building up more real exclusive IP's and gaining all former xbox exclusives. Will it survive though. If think it will still have a chance in NA but not anywhere else.

[MiloGarret]

I just want you to know that no one read that.

Short, simple. Look between your legs for inspiration.

[Bathyj]

Sounds like you read it and just didnt like what was said.

We're not flaming dude, we're having a discussion like grown ups sometimes do.

If you cant handle the subject matter then move on, or toughen up Princess.

[palaeomerus]

Read the #@#$ing article man.

MS owns the Halo IP no matter how shrewd you want to think Bungie is. It was one of the conditions for Bungie's independence. It was part of the price that Bungie payed to buy themselves back as a pricately held compnay.

MS have a studio staffed with former Bungie team members who worked on Halo games called 343 Studios who will handle(supervise) the production of future Halo titles and associated products. Frank O'Conner is with them.

I don't see any relation to the nextbox at all beyond some desperation of your part to come up with a scary sounding topic almost out of thin air. It seems to me like you want to stir up trouble without even reading the article to get the basic facts right and somehow you want to blame it all on Pachter.

[Bathyj]

FKN hell, relax dude.

For starters I dont see anything you said in that article, but if you say it true then ok, I accept it.

Still, I'm only putting the question out there for discussion because it occered to me. And even if M$ continues Halo it wont be the same. But then it gotten stale to me anyway so maybe thats a good thing.

Point is, dont go off at me because you cant have a conversation without getting all butthurt. I'm just hypothesizing about M$'s position next gen without Bungie, one of two devs they owe all their success to, your acting like I made a pass on your mother. Grow up, or just dont talk to me.

[acere]

bungie next game will b better than halo

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The Halo name sells Halo not Bungie. Ask games like Marathon and Oni who didn't sell even a fraction of what Halo did.

I hope for their sake they do move that many units or Activision will not be pleased. Even if the game is perfect, if it doesn't sell Activision doesn't like.

[Theoneneo81]

wow your post fails on so many ways its not even funny first of Marathon was orignaly a Mac Trilogy ported on to Pc after bungie was acquired by MS the only way Bungie/Halo got successful is caused they killed the Original Halo that was out on mac and Marketed the hell out of it had MS did what they did with Halo but with Marathon it would be as popular as Halo is now.

[clintos59]

I mean atleast buy bungie and have them as a first party studio that way they never make ANY game for your RIVALS. I mean when are they going to learn that first party support is NEEDED if u want to be the TOP DOG. Nintendos been there & Sonys been there, I wonder why. Simple because there fanbase is loyal to them because of those key first party games. Yes 3rd party support is NEEDED aswell but with 3rd party devs looking to go multiplatform now days, first party support is NEEDED. This is why I believe MS will end up last this gen aswell because of the lack of first party support.

[palaeomerus]

MS did buy Bungie in 1999 or so.

Bungie wanted out in 2007 so they took their money and made MS an offer involving MS keeping the Halo IP and making several exclusive titles for MS. They also bought out most of MS's stock in Bungie with cash money paid to them BY MS as incentives for making such a successful game series.

So now Bungie are independent again.

MS had to let Bungie go or a lot of people would have quit and formed a new studio funded by those incentives I talked about and probably Bumgie would have had bad blood with MS. This way MS got the Halo IP, and some money, and a couple of exclusive games before Bungie starts making multiplatform games for Activision to publish.

[Gun_Senshi]

I do not support Activision

[Anon7349]

Hazama smooth criminal avatar...

oh, and that activision thing.

[maverick1191]

to the title

doubt it unless it has the name Call of duty or Guitar hero in the name thats there biggest franchises

[Theoneneo81]

I could have made that prediction in my sleep

[Aphe]

I'm sick of this Pachter guy, seriously. He is not a gamer, or a developer, or anyone I really care about when it comes to the games industry, he is just some business guessing man. In short - Fu*k off Pachter you complete c*nt.

[cam2030]

i'm really excited about this hahaha. i really'am :D.. but i don't like psychics, they're really full of rubbish

[TheObserver]

Who the hell approves/post this crap? Please don't post news (Doesn't even qualify as news...) about this person ever again please.

[Perkel]

if it isn't a falo game then won't sell even a 7 mln.