CVG: Microsoft expects "a ton" of Halo fans to pick up Halo 3: ODST for the first time as hype builds for the Halo: Reach Beta launch.
Kind of like Crackdown.
except Crackdown was a complete game and really good from what I've heard.
ODST is also a complete game, and more polished then crackdown. Crackdown is a nice game too tho, but acting like ODST is not a full game is equal to trolling.
ODST was originally planned as an expansion was my point. The single player was quite short from what I have heard. I don't own it my self though but I have played a bit of the survival mode which was fun.
Why dont you go and play the whole game, instead of acting like the trolling you read on n4g are true. Its longer then DLC, but a bit shorter then most games.
It's the beta to one of the biggest games this year. Don't start trolling.
ODST was a good game but one worth $60? Hard sell, worth $40? A must buy.
just more people to be disappointed like I was. glad i just played it on my friend's xbox. whats up with you foxgod you sound like a butthurt little kid trying to defend something so bad! let up, just because they put a multiplayer in it does not make it a complete game.
playing halo 3 multiplayer again is fun after not playing for more than a year. Im excited to play the beta.
I don't listen to trolls m8. I have spoken about it to people I actually know who own it and if they say it's quite short, it is. Also I'd just like to add that I bet there is a lot of people out there that would be happy to pay £16 for just the beta. I myself will just wait for the full release.
In my opinion the ODST campaign was better than Halo 3's. Halo 3 campaign was a bit of a let down. But the last level is epic. How long will this beta be anyway? I heard Halo 3 beta was about 2 weeks. If that's the same for Reach that'd suck for me since my exams finish 3 weeks after the beta begins.
@dem0n: it's still a beta. It could be the beta of GOD, but this doesn't make paying for it anywhere smart when you're going to pay for the full game a little later. If Xbox gamers are so starved that they need to pay for a beta, then I'm sorry for them. Personally, as an all-platforms gamer, I definitely have no time for betas, especially betas I have to pay for. My "to play" pile is 13 games now.
i mean the gameplay wasn't that good, the story wasn't that good, all you do is go around collect orb things taht power you up n tahts about it i found the game kind of boring but then again thats just me
I would have held off on Crackdown until it was cheaper if not for the beta. Crackdown was just too short.
was a great game. a lot of fun single player. even better with 4 player co-op. plus firefight was a good time killer for a couple weeks. i don't think the game should have been 60 dollars...but i've certainly paid 60 dollars for a LOT less. bottom line...you can get odst now for 30 dollars...so stop making excuses. it's totally worth 30 dollars, and i know a lot of ppl who'd be willing to pay more to get into the reach beta. i'm one of em...fortunately, i don't have to. @abriael: it's entertainment. if you love halo, and are excited for reach, who's to tell you you shouldn't pay money for it just cuz it's a beta. it's a month of enjoyment for a lot of people. think about all the money most ppl spend to be entertained for much less bang for the buck. 90 minute movie...12 bucks. 30 minute hooker...100 bucks. 9 hour gow3...60 bucks. i can think of hundreds of examples. so 30 dollars for potentially non-stop game play for 4-6 weeks is a pretty good deal if you ask me. not to mention that when the beta is over...you still have odst (firefight ftw).
@Therealspy03: Because as a beta tester you're offering a SERVICE to the developer by playtesting his game and stresstesting his service. If you pay to get into a beta, you're basically paying someone to work for him. That's not "loving" a series. It's being a fanboy, and a guillible one to boot. But it's always so funny when people mistake "beta" for "free trial" (and in this case it ain't even free).
the amount of time it takes ppl to complete odst campaign depends on the individual(s) and how much they want to get out of it...a quick run through on normal or heroic can be done in 2-4 hours...on legendary, while looking for audio clips even on 4 player coop with a couple skulls on can lead up to 8+ hours i heard gow was completed in 4 hours...are you gunna tell me its short? of course not, cause that was a run through and that player didnt WANT to ENJOY the game, just FINISH it...same is applied to ODST, and with firefight (as long as you have friends to play with) adds to the amount of hours spent on odst there are much shorter games without any sort of multiplayer or even coop campaign that have been sold for full retail price and barely has been said about them, the only reason odst is getting this kinda treatment is cause its a halo game
I paid 10 dollars for a beta key for LBP. Did I regret paying 10 dollars? No. I had a blast making my own levels before the game was out. With ODST, you not only get Halo 3 multiplayer but you also get Firefight and beta access to Reach. I think paying 35 dollars for that package is a pretty good deal. 60 was too steep for some, but now it's 35 at Gamestop(Used).
it's 30 on amazon...new. free shipping. you'd have it in time for the beta. and abriael: you're missing the point again. you aren't just paying for the beta. you're paying half price for a fun game that happens to include a lot more additional fun starting may 3rd. :)
The same tired bashing of ODST is still going on. ODST offers a lot more than other games that have released at $60. Bioshock - Single player only, limited replay, $60. Dead Space - Single player only, limited replay, $60. Heavenly Sword - Single player only, limited replay, $60. Assassin's Creed - Single player only, limited replay, $60. God of War 3 - Single player only, limited replay, $60. Ninja Gaiden II - Single player only, limited replay, $60. Halo 3 ODST - Short campaign, but is action packed, four player co-op, Firefight, entire Halo 3 multiplayer experience, Halo: Reach beta invitation, $60. If you don't like Halo, fine, but to say ODST isn't worth the price, when other games that don't have as much replay value cost the same, that's just ridiculous. The ONLY reason people talk about the launch price, is because Bungie announced they didn't view it as a full priced title. I believe that was before Firefight was planned for it. I don't know the specifics, but it doesn't matter to me because I bought the game for $60 and I got my money's worth out of the game putting in hundreds of hours into Firefight and playing the campaign numerous times.
I totally agree. ODST's single player was well liked. I can understand if they rushed it, but it was well made and just as long as many other games (bioshock, Heavenly Sword etc), WITH multiplayer and co-op. That's more content than a lot of games. It would have been nice if they made it an expansion if they wanted to win favor from the community but it was clear that this was a move by MS to set up Reach's beta. I think the only people it wasn't worth the price to is Halo 3 players. ODST's focus was on the campaign. It's understandable people don't think it's worth it but I never heard so many complaints when games like Bioshock came out.
ODSTs campaign took me longer to complete on hard than God of War 3, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Heavenly Sword, and MGS4 (minus the cutscenes). but hey, its a 360 exclusive so lets just say its to short while excusing all the PS3 exclusives. ODST was worth every penny IMO. with how good Reach is looking, the beta looks like itll be worth what i paid for ODST (which is $67 Australian dollars on day of release, which is just over half of the RRP of most 360/PS3 games btw).
which GoW could be finished within 4 hours? the 1st one you mean? that is only possible with the "Dairy Bastard" costume AFTER you've beaten the Challenge of the Gods AFTER you finished the game the 1st time! that will take like what....10 hours or so! stop spreading FUDS! edit: @IHateYouFanboys you finished MGS4 faster than ODST on hard? MGS4 on the easiest setting you mean? - even that's already pushing it! and all the other games you've mention - uncharted, Uncharted 2, GoW3 except for Heavenly Sword, took only 5-6 hours? on HARD? you're delusional or just haven't played those games!
Those who got odst and beat it most likely traded it in to gamestop and now they will go back to get a used copy only to find gamestop has inflated the used price to higher than it was last month (supply/demand) and then these people will play the reach beta and the beta will end and those copies of odst that got a second chance will then be returned again to gamestop. YES that is one long run on sentence for a reason.
ODST came with a 6hr SP campaign, co-op, Firefight, forge, and Halo 3's multiplayer with 21 maps including 3 extra maps. While God of War 3 offered just a 6hr SP campaign and nothing else. Which is the real complete game?
@badz149, no, ODST on Hard took me as long to finish as it took me to finish the others on normal. maybe i should have been more specific, but it doesnt matter. Halo has ALWAYS been one of the few games that is a genuinely different (and better) game on the harder difficulties, as instead of just upping the damage/health of enemies, it makes their AI smarter. God of War, Uncharted and Co. simply make the enemies do more damage, take more damage before being killed, and do the exact opposites to the player. thats not good game design, and is just done to artificially make the game harder through frustration. Halos difficulty levels get progressively harder because they actually change the way the game plays. as it is, it took me about 9-10 hours to finish ODST, but less than 8 for Uncharted 1 and 2, 8 for MGS4 (taking away all cutscenes) and 8 and 3/4 for GOW3.
That's not a good thing... And before anyone says it is, wise up. Microsoft are implying people who didn't buy the game previously, now will for a beta.
Well it is only £16 now so people desperate to get into the beta are'nt getting ripped.
It's funny how people will say they won't pay for demos, but Microsoft outright states people will pay for a beta and it suddenly becomes ok... what is gaming these days?
Yes because Sony included the Uncharted 2 beta in Infamous out of the kindness of their heart and not in an attempt to increase sales..../s
The real question is why do you care? People can do as they please with their money. Weather it is paying for a beta which isn't new or a demo which also isn't new. Buy a magazine with a disc in it you get demos and videos. Join file planet and you get demos and betas. So why not complain about those? <-Rhetorical question. Not MS.
I wont pay for demos but that doesn't mean other people wont. Look at GT5: Prologue.
it's not like MS suddenly came up with the idea.. they promoted reach beta access through ODST before odst came out..
@SpoonyRedMage Beta access in a purchased game is indeed common and murky , but usually , you're supposed to get access for free at some point , or at least a select few does . Having as sole beta access , the purchase of a game doesnt sit well for me . Fine for those that do , but screw that mentality imo
PirateThom, go troll some place else. Geez, if people want to pay for ODST only for the beta, it's there choice. I'd say MS would be stupid to have not included the beta in ODST since we know a good portion of the sales were just for that reason. LOL, GameOn, I heard that from the amount of content GT5: Prologue, it could be considered a full game really. But I've never had a huge interest in car games so I don't really care.
You realise content in GT5 Prologue exceeds that of the MAJORITY of games released on either 360 or PS3? There's at least 20+ hours in that 'demo'.
The UC2 Beta wasn't included in all copies of Infamous.
Because the big difference between inFamous and Crackdown is, inFamous was a excellent game, it didn't need a beta to increase sales, crackdown drop to like $20 6 months after release or so. Unless that target that I saw the whole stockpile of it just wanted to get rid of the inventory.
only the first run of inFAMOUS had beta codes
but to include inFAMOUS and GT5:P in this argument is kinda off limit! 1. not all inFAMOUS copies have the beta for UC2 and unlike ODST which is a short game with rehashed Halo3 maps, inFAMOUS is a totally new game! with both cost $60, you know how much a rip-off ODST was! 2. GT5:P IS NOT A DEMO! at $40, it has more contents than most racing games out there and that's telling you something! compare it with GRID or SHIFT, you'll see it having more cars than each them at $20 less! 3. multiplayer DOES NOT EQUAL to more contents! when will people understand? people trying to justify paying $60 for short games with MP is what driving the devs to keep producing them and charge $60 and then charge again later with DLC map packs!
more content does NOT mean more play-time or more fun though, thats the thing. "3. multiplayer DOES NOT EQUAL to more contents! when will people understand? people trying to justify paying $60 for short games with MP is what driving the devs to keep producing them and charge $60 and then charge again later with DLC map packs!" no, but multiplayer does mean more replayability, and that equals value for money. ive personally put in over 200 hours in Modern Warfare 2, with 99% of that being multiplayer - and that DOES equal better value than if they hadve made the single player campaign 10 hours instead of 5.
yeah. from the used market. I bought it last week from GameFly for 18 bucks! (they want 35 at gamestop). heck of a deal for a great game.
gamefly is fwcking awesome, isn't it? i love it.
Gamefly is kick ass I got GOW 3 for $45 and Only had to wait 1 day extra EDIT: BTW I plan to buy ODST from gamefly soon for MP maps and the beta
11 minutes in and the trolling has started
Abriel is a small minded tool bag trying to stir up trouble instead of playing all those good games he thinks the 360 is lacking. The beta is pure awesome-sauce and the grumpy haters all know it deep down in their bones.
I have too many great games on all platforms to play to care about a beta. Sorry if that gets your panties in a bunch, but paying for a beta when you're going to pay for the full game right after is simply silly. Unfortunately the only small minded people are the ones that will waste time with a beta they will have to pay for, instead of playing the crapton of awesome FULL games the market offers :D It's unfortunate that some people are so fanboyish that they will fall for this shameful marketing ploy. But after all one gets what he deserves.
"i have too many great games on all platforms to play to care about a beta" then if you have ALL these great games and you dont care about the beta then why you are here?
I can not believe people are still complaining over what ODST was and is today. Get over it. I was wondering if ODST sales would see a small spike.
It clearly was though. I mean It's like half the price now and the beta is coming. There couldn't be a better time to pick it up.
Well of course it will and its cheaper now a win win
I bought myself a copy just last Thursday! They've worked their magic on me, damn Microsoft!
People that are criticising those who are saying that MS are ripping off consumers are right and wrong in that criticism. ODST is not a bad game, and for some it is a worthy purchase. But what many are saying (and this is what MS is implying) is that with the Reach beta part of the ODST purchase, it is now a worthy purchase, when it previously wasn't (when it was just ODST). With that in mind, people are then suggesting that buyers of ODST (following the announcement the Reach beta was to be included) are getting it solely for the beta. Now that may be true for some and may not be. But the fact is, value added or not, MS is (imo) shrewdly ripping off consumers, mainly because the beta will cost them next to nothing compared with the revenue they will get from the boosted ODST sales. I am not saying it is necessarily a bad deal, but MS is tricking consumers.
Halo: Reach beta access has been a selling point of ODST since before it launched. I'm almost certain that at E3 last year, they stated as much. Besides, if people buy it for beta access, and don't play the game, that's their fault. It isn't like MS is saying "we have a beta soon, pay $40 for it". You still get a great game with a lot of replay value. If you don't like the game, trade it in after the beta. You can still get back some of your money.
why do people hate ODST so much since the first halo 3 map packs I had been waiting for them to release all the maps together instead of buying each map one at a time not only did I get all the maps but I got a new (but short) campaign, firfight,and Reach beta after trading in Halo 3 I thought this was a steal and I'll be trading in ODST when Reach drops meaning once again I wont be paying full price
Halo ODST was a great deal...anybody who actually played it knows this...the kids complaining here never played the game...A rip off is GOW3 with 5 hrs of game play that was mostly cinematics and RTE's with NO multi-player... ODST feature a whole game, great story and graphics AND all Halo multi-player maps ( 24 ) including a couple new maps with all Halo special features ( forge etc...)...PLUS...an entire new game mode in fire fight...New weapons with the Sub-machine gun and pistol, one of the best combo's around...and of course a key to the beta for the soon to be classic...Halo Reach...Want to compare that to Mag, Heavy Rain or GOW3...please...you kids are embarrassing yourselves... Halo 3 was awesome, ODST was Awesome....Halo Reach destined for greatness...Bungie a class act, the best at what they do...that is make a great game with great features and great community support....thousands still playing every wk...I have all consoles...give credit where credit is do...
Why must you use such impracticality in your explanation? First off everyone is entitled to their own opinion so deal with it. Secondly, why do you drag GOW III into a discussion about ODST and say "That's fud about ODST" but than spread some untrue stuff about another game to try and back your claim? GOW III took me 11 hours on normal 1st time and that doesn't count the times I turned the game on and played Zeus or a few other bosses like 5-10 times only to get frustrated and turn it off without saving. I would say it took me more like 15-16
U should prolly take some advice from your own delusional comment. U definitely havent played GOW3 to be bringing it up, especially trying to say its a 5 hour game lol. I swear some of u halo fanboys are so brain twisted that u prolly think ODST shouldve won GOTY am I right? Lol I know ill get tons of disagrees but I cant help it that he is actually trying to say halo odst is better & worth your money over GOW3 lol. Yeah I guess I can say that haze was better then Uncharted Drakes Fortune because haze also has multiplayer & more replay value going by your comparison? GTFO lol.
Same kids that will pay 150 for a skin will pay 60 for a beta, nothing new.
In fairness 'the skin' comes with a bunch of "making of" documentary stuff and a nice plastic statue of the Nobel team. Personally I'm just getting the plain old version of the game but the skin is only one of the things included in the Legendary set. Pseronally I think it's a bit truer to the spirit of a collectors edition than a set of $70 toy monocular night vision goggles.
Betas are entirely overrated. Why spoil yourself of a game you are truly hyped for by playing a build that may be nowhere near what the final product would be while at the same time having your stats deleted completely just to start all over? I'd rather just wait for the retail release and not waste my time IMO.
Microsoft you're lame, forcing people to buy this game for that very reason. Sometimes I give you the pass, but seriously purchasing this game should NOT be your ticket to the beta. It should merely be if you purchase you get early access. Than you should give anyone who wants to try it out a chance for at least a week...Sure it's Halo, it will sell and no doubt extremely well. Which is why everyone should get a chance, as a thank you to the fans. But what do I know, I come from morals and integrity...
Just get a copy of craigs. You can find one for 20. IF the beta goes 3 weeks or more you are justified in your purchase...considering a rental is 10 a week.
are u planning on participating in the beta ?
I don't want the game, I wasn't interested in it. That's my point why should I HAVE to buy something? But no I don't plan on participating in it. I'd like too, but I most likely will not.
Then why did Sony include Uncharted 2 Beta with Infamous?
i know right why are people so quick to criticize
I didn't get a beta key for Uncharted 2 in my inFamous. What a rip-off! But can you really compare a DLC title, I mean, full priced DLC sized title to a full open "city" game?
That's funny I remember playing the Uncharted 2 beta without owning Infamous...nice try though
I don't know why people hate on ODST so much. The campaign was pretty short, about 4-5 hours. (I beat Modern Warfare 2 in 5.5 hours). The campaign was enjoyable, and the music was amazing with surround sound. On top of that firefight was fun as hell, and I never bought the maps for Halo 3, but I got them with ODST. I guess it depends on the person, but by no means was ODST a bad game.