stuff.tv: I had a first look at the Playstation Move system in action this week, and I wasn't disappointed. First off, the big glowing orbs look brilliant, and even at the end of the session I felt like I should be bringing planes into land.
you have to love all the reports of how accurate the PlayStation Move is.
it does look very accurate, i think thats the main reason im looking forward to this. i wonder with the accuracy what they can do with it. SPUNUPS I AGREE. i want them to untilize it,like they are utilizing bluray for games, ex: uncharted 2, gow3, killzone 2, these are good examples. i want something new! fresj that is very very accurate and runs based off of accuracy.
Agreed. I do enjoy all of the positive news and reviews that are coming out for the Move. What I really enjoy is the fact that when talking about the Move, we don't have to say crap like, "Let's wait for E3 to find out more." Sony's got the tech, and isn't afraid to show it off.
The Move may not be original, but Nintendo's failure with Wii Motion Plus deserves to be exploited. Not only is the Move way better tech, but it is going to have healthy support with software gamers want to play.
sure the wii's success was probably the factor that pushed more funds into this project and started mass production but what exactly do you call the eyetoy? for it's time it was extremely innovative. not to mention LBP, modnation Etc. Oh and by the way in no way do sales mean a product is good. It means a product was well advertised but not necessarily that it's good.
This is a tech demo from 2003. Sit down and learn something....
You might want to do some history check on Sony an controllers, it go's back to PSOne. 1.Trophies: Do you know how long Sony was thinking about bring it to the PS3? No I don't think you do, plus you can't say they are the same because you don't get a gamerscore from getting Trophies. 2.Home: Home would have come to PS2 but the PS2 lack power of online, another thing to keep in mind is how long were they working on it and if the had help from the people that made 2nd Life. 3.PSN: Ok so XBL is a copy of Sega Dreamcast online, how do you like that uh? Guess Xbox didn't have it first. 4.Background music: OK you most be dumb or something to say its the same, PS3 background music is offer to developers to add to their game if they want to, 360 offers you the chance to do it anytime you want. At the cost of your game freeze or losing in game sound. 5.Move: It maybe look the same but like I said, you don't know how long they work on this an it was way before the Wii came out, plus your comment about "Tell the 70mill people that" -_- please no one buys a Wii for the Wii plus and the games that use it have sold as good as Wii Sports or Wii Fit. Another thing, each company copys something from some one, 360 doesn't need HDMI for HD "BOOM IT HAS IT", 360 does need to waste memory an install games "BOOM it got it an helps". Think before you say Sony is the only one copying things.
"Trophies- Achievement clone Home- 2nd life clone PSN- A poor clone of XBL but its free so can't complain there.. Background music, Ingame XMB- All features copied from the 360 Move- Wii clone" Here we go again... Move tech was in the works long before the Wii was born, Xbox LIVE charges and uses mainly P2P servers, even with 1st/2nd party games (Give me the many dedicated servers of PSN in many titles (for free) anyday), Whoopie features! I guess we can excuse the inferior online connection in exchange for features, and home is not a 2nd life clone it is a place to connect with other gamers to play games with.
At least if Sony "copies" the wii they will bring out some decent, imaginative games using motion control What has the wii produced in almost 4 years? The same old Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart all with the same gameplay that you saw 10 years back, with laughable storylines and flawed game mechanics, such as Kart's rubber band AI Its Sony's exclusives that have been responsible for most of the innovation and creativity in this generation. LBP, Heavy Rain, Modnation Racers, Flower, where is the wii's equivalent of these games?
@Dark- Sure sony will say that the move has been in developement for years.. You think they are really going to come out and say "after the Wiimote sucess we decided to copy it!" "Oh and by the way in no way do sales mean a product is good. It means a product was well advertised but not necessarily that it's good." You really think the Wiis commercials was good advertising? LOL!! I thought theose commercials was stupid.. The reason the Wii is selling good is because its fun and non gamers are buying them up! I mean when have you heard a nursing homes wanting to buy a gaming console for their residents?? Yes to us "gamers" the Wii is garbage but for the rest of the population it was great! @ven100- Looks more like atech demo of a new feature for the PS eye.. @THC Cell- Wow its been a while since i've heard the 360 go the route of the Dreamcast.. Last time I heard that was before the PS3 launched and Sony fanboys proclaiming that the 1 year headstart the 360 had was irrelevant b/c the Dreamcast had a 1 year head start last gen but was still crushed by the PS2.. Fast forwared 4 years later and the PS3 still in 3rd place with most of their big guns already out(MGS4, GoW3, KZ2, FF13)only thing left is GT if that game even gets released but if M$ does come out with a 360 Slim, Halo Reach and Gears 3 it would be too late for Sony to overtake them for 2nd place! Oh and the dreamcast comparisons aren't really valid anymore that's so 2005!!! M$ has sold 40 million 360s with more to come and the 360 is still getting support past 1 year of life!
"The reason the Wii is selling good is because its fun and non gamers are buying them up!" Exactly. A system that is much cheaper (or so it seems to non-gamers who dont know anything about gaming) and its mainly non-gamers that are snapping them up So basically, now you can buy a system that offer all that the wii offers but in a superior format, with HD, free online that thrashes the paid Live (try playing Gears online with its laggy, host advantage and glicth-ridden multi) and games that are far superior to the tired, boring games that the wii throws up. Which can only be good for gamers. Incidentally, I know several "non-gamers" who have bought the wii, and none of them have used it afterwards, or would buy another console in their life.
@Icyhot.. When and what article did I bl*w natals nuts off? If you check my your PM i told you i'm one of the few 360 fans who think Natal is NOT going to be a system seller! I doubt both move and natal will introduce the 360 and PS3 to the casual gamers/non gamers like the Wii has.. Both consoles are made for real gamers and Sony and M$ is trying to get the appeal of the non gamers like the Wii but it won't happen. All these non gamers already have the Wii and if they don't they would rather have the Wii for casual gaming because i'm prett sure they've either played with one at a friends house or heard how much fun the Wii is.. @Thief- At least your a Sony fan who can admit the move was clone.. LIke I said above casual gamers clamor to the Wii because of reputation.. The motion controller has been there since day one and 4 years later both Sony and M$ comes out with one like it.. They are both too late to the market.. The Wii just has the market of non gamers lock down... Look at Apple and its Ipods.. Companies like Sony(Walkman), M$(Zune), Samsung, Panasonic etc.. They probably make better MP3 player with more features and cheaper than the Ipod but people still buy the Ipod up because everybody and their dogs have one and Ipods are just synonamous with MP3 players.. The Wii has the same effect to casual gamers! The 360/ps3 markets has always been towards the real gamers that's why many "gamers" disregard the Wii as not in the same class! @Redrumm- Wow if you haven't seen any PS3 commercials in your life you must be living under a rock! The PS3 has better marketing now than it did before.. Its selling because its cheaper, has better games now and it has the Playstation brand which had the biggest fanbase!!
there is one thing that you forget. although many ppl say that ps3 has improved its advertising, i still havent seen a ps3 ad on tv(and i watch a lot of tv) yet the ps3 manages to sell very well evry freeking year, evry freekin month, in every freekin country they sell it. Xbox360 was advertised up the azz, halo was advertised up the azz, halo wazz advertised up the azz(on freeking mountain due bottles aswell) and dont forget that you can find a 360 at 200$ brand new. those sony big guns you talk about also has had very little to none advertisement yet they manage to sell millions still. and i also think its stupid you bring up M$ sales because they are most focused on sells and also the most shady in obtaining them(rrod, year headstarrt, 1million bans around ps3slim/MW2 launch) just a few of many stunts they have pulled. keep talking about sells but remember that ps3 exclusives combined have a higher rated score combined then the 360exclusive list. all i know is that you will keep playing the same games that are no different from 2005 as i play games that keep getting bigger in size, scale, graphics, inovation. have fun with halo reach, halo resurection, halo revenge, halo destruction, halo revelations, gears 3, gears 4, gears 5, gears 6, gears 7.
Looks like he is getting mad because everyone keeps showing how wrong he is or she.
What, if any, point are you trying to make? Do you think comparing the Move to a Wiimote somehow makes Move's tech less impressive? Do your comparisons some how invalidate the positive reviews it's getting? You think Nintendo was the first to use a "motion controller"? The "Sixaxis" says "Hi". Also, why is it when someone responds to you with a fact you respond by stating your opinion as if it were fact. Case in point: "Both consoles are made for real gamers and Sony and M$ is trying to get the appeal of the non gamers like the Wii but it won't happen". Judging from your post (and poor grammar) I can safely conclude that you are not college educated, not technically savvy, and you're obviously another immature Xbox extremist trolling in a PS3 article. You're obviously incapable of rational thought and have the dubious distinction of being the first person on my ignore list.
@Jaysquared Shouldn't you be in one of the 10,000 or so Halo Reach or Natal articles? It's pretty obvious you're not interested in the PS Move.
"Sure sony will say that the move has been in developement for years.. You think they are really going to come out and say "after the Wiimote sucess we decided to copy it!"" Don't be of bad faith you're just making a fool of yourself. We have videos from a 2004 conference given at Stanford U, where Sony's developper presents their motion technology based on a colored ball recognition, demoing it with a PS2 and explains the problems they've been facing with developpment since they first showed the technology back in 2000 (that's 6 years before we heard of the Wiimote). http://www.youtube.com/watc...
People stay on topic and ignore jaysquared and kill his bubbles instead he is clearly a deranged fanboy. We all know all devs will take great features from each other to make there own console better and usually improve on them I mean that's called good business. Back on topic Stuff TV are the website of a popular tech magazine in the UK I used to be a subscriber till I lost my job I am thinking of resubscribing though they really know what they are talking about when it comes to tech and have experts unbiased in every field. I feel Sony have got it right with move as they feel the camera alone wont cut it and need the extra control for fluid tracking and better gameplay. I really think NATAL like eyetoy will have problems with more intense games. I mean try play some of the eyetoy games on PS2 and you will see what I mean some of them are frustrating as the camera does sometimes miss what you are doing if too much is going on. With the controller you are not just relying on the camera to do everything.
1.Trophies: Do you know how long Sony was thinking about bring it to the PS3? No I don't think you do, plus you can't say they are the same because you don't get a gamerscore from getting Trophies. Maybe you are not aware but achievements was on the original xbox before PS3 was even thought of. And yes Trophies are a direct copy of achievements 2.Home: Home would have come to PS2 but the PS2 lack power of online, another thing to keep in mind is how long were they working on it and if the had help from the people that made 2nd Life. You can say could of would of all you want. Doesn't change the fact. 3.PSN: Ok so XBL is a copy of Sega Dreamcast online, how do you like that uh? Guess Xbox didn't have it first. Man i owned a Dreamcast and still do till this day, and i never seen a sega online service. A few games had online capability, but having a full online service for the dreamcast. Sorry no such thing but nice try though 4.Background music: OK you most be dumb or something to say its the same, PS3 background music is offer to developers to add to their game if they want to, 360 offers you the chance to do it anytime you want. At the cost of your game freeze or losing in game sound. And harly any PS3 games support it. I play my music all the time while playing games and i have never had my system freeze or loose sound. 5.Move: It maybe look the same but like I said, you don't know how long they work on this an it was way before the Wii came out, plus your comment about "Tell the 70mill people that" -_- please no one buys a Wii for the Wii plus and the games that use it have sold as good as Wii Sports or Wii Fit. And you dont know how long Nintendo has been working on it, same can be said. And the PC had this stuff way before Sony or Nintendo thought about motion controls.
I don't want to be part of this stupid war or anything, but to the people saying MS copied the Dreamcast. Microsoft help devlope the Dreamcast and its network hence the "Powerd by Microsoft" and the "Windows CE" logo. Remember it ran a custom version of Windows CE. Microsoft also had the MSX back in the 80s, that was there first console. Im not on ether side here, just wanted to share some video game history with the young ins. Im looking forward to Move and Natal. I don't think one is better than the other there just different. It's like trying to argue which is better Coke or Pepsi. No matter what you say they will both still be for sale. I still don't see how Move or Natal will help me play GT5 or Forza any better. And if you cant tell by my Avatar that's all I really care about, racing sims.
Where are you getting 2000 from? That is a conference in 2004. Funny how that video started then they showed Info on screen it was like it was spliced in. But Pc was doing motion controls before that.
There are videos from a developer from Sony, showing from the year 2000 and 2004, a motion controller with a sphere.
Really impressed with this first look for a couple of reasons apart from what you mentioned. What i also like is that 1. The first look is from a tech person that knows tech and not some celebrity. 2. How easy it is to setup and use move. 3. The variety of games that is already CONFIRMED it works on very well. I really really like that the author is no super hyping move without cause. Its a pretty straight forward and honest preview. No promises or talk about amazing potential etc.
GT5 FFvXIII Agent The Last Guardian Killzone 3 Resistance 3 inFamous 2 SOCOM 4 FFXVI Twisted Metal Mod Nation Racers Jaffe's new game The Agency DC Universe Online And you know there's more to come... M$ "guns": Alan Wake Fable 3 Crackdown 2 Halo Reach Gears of War 3 And to be honest, only 3 of these games are considered "guns".
Gotta let ignorance be ignorant lol But it'l be kinda weird if socom didnt have crosshairs i could see that taking awhile to get used to
Wow, you really most not know much about Sega then, when they started their online for the Dreamcast is was said to be the next step in gaming by bring it online. Background music, then play Halo 3 ODST then or how about Halo 3 online, then turn off the music an see if the sound is their, I own a 360 an right now it an my gf's Wii are the only two I count as a system I own for this gen. As for the other part, I think ALFAxD_CENTAURO nail it. I will be getting a PS3 Slim, but until then I'm play 360 games.
This will be great and not for casual only! I knew it! In SONY we trust!
I just can't wait for the games that will be made for this. The table tennis looks very interesting.
I'm really interested by the eye pet...I wish it was built into the PS3 XMB somehow haha. Parents never did let me get a dog.
I wonder why?
i just wish it had an analogue stick on the move as well as the sub controller, the socom demo looked quite good, but i hate the thought of having to move the curser to the far end of the screen to turn. dual analogue sticks would be great in a fps, keep the standard fps controls and use the motion control for precision aiming
Move replaces the second analog. That's the point. Now all we need is an awesome gun attachment to stick these contollers in.
yes but my point is that in the socom demo, the cursor isnt fixed to the centre of the screen like in most shooters, so when you move the cursor moves, much like a light gun game, to turn around you have to move the cursor to the edge of the screen. which means you cant accurately move and shoot at the same time. i think this could affect gameplay somewhat. Now if the cursor was fixed like when using a MOUSE this wouldnt be a problem I suppose it all depends on how the game is coded
It's Demon's Souls 2 or bust for me; And not some crappy integration that ultimately ends up ruining the game. Alan Wake with Move would probably be the best Move game if their were any chance in Hell of that happening. I haven't really seen anything else yet to make me buy this.
" to turn around you have to move the cursor to the edge of the screen. which means you cant accurately move and shoot at the same time" The cursor to the side of the screen and turning is something that happens automatically if you go off screen but is not the only way to turn around. I believe the other Navigation controller allows turning as well. That's what I got from the different bits I've seen anyway.
hey i never thought about that. having the crosshairs not fixed to the center of the screen is going to make aiming while straffing a bit more difficult and less percise, because it takes more turning to move in a circular motion around your target. i assume its gonna work similarly to the way the conduit worked for wii. did anyone play that game, and can comment on how it worked out in the conduit?
I love the potential of Move, but I know as well as everyone else, we don't want the "same old same old" software and ports of the Nintendo Wii. We just don't. Been there, done that. We want something new. Like an Oblivion Style game with FULL Playstation Move Support. Get it Done Sony. We want "Next Gen" Type Motion Control Support, Not Just HD. Something new and something Creative. The New "Fighter" game is a start, but don't abandon the Move like you did the PSEye. I've had an Eye since the beginning and YOU have done nothing for it, plain and simple. /rant
Just be patience lad. Sony will deliver.
I completely agree except about "fighter", which is a step in the wrong direction, imho. I want 1:1 games, not games based on gestures.
The eye pet stuff needs to die, that's the wrong direction.
If it were true 1:1 without gesture based movements, the game would need a way to stop your punches cold when your moves were blocked.
This is the most compelling motion control setup for the hardcore gamer.
How the heck do you put the D pad below the control stick...WTF...thats not gonna work...and all the little buttons all over the place....anybody notice this stuff...If anybody played the Wii you know your hand slips everywhere....looking like a rush job... Have to wait for a more " serious " test of the controllers...
Cez you must have the smallest man hands in the history of gaming. Your the weakest troll in this forum. If you can't keep your fingers from slipping how can you game on your 360?
Solution for you: Don't Buy it.
Socom 4 Nuff said.
Waiting the Survival Horror exclusive for Move. And Killzone 3 Compatible.
Oh my. When the developers from the Survival Horror show the 1st Preview about that game, I'm gonna bet Fanboys will compare that game to Alan Wake.
Eye Pet, Heavy Rain, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Resident Evil 4, Lights Out, LBP, Wii-Like Sports Game, Downloadable games and many other possible titles for the move it looks like sony is going support this quiet well. I can't wait to see how they're integrate the move it more pre-existing titles and make new IPs that take full advantage of the Move. New IPs can come from this, and new IPs are important.
"I'd happily wash my monkey again." Word!
So far i like what im seeing. Idk if im gonna buy it on day 1 but if im able to use it with previous games and also some new titles that support the move then its a day 1 purchase for me i just hope sony has good launch titles with this i dont wanna do the buy and wait for game thing thats annoying as hell.
Its okay to copy if you do it better why not.
actualy that is welcomed all the time in many different ways.
I won't be playing table tennis on my PS3. I hope for both PS stick and Natal success but these are not on my Menu.
i liked the wii but it had no games Sony has this one Natal is in deep doo doo
Anyone notice the triggers? Sony should totally make a new DS 3 controller with those triggers....Nudge nudge. So that we don't have to pay the extra 5 dollars for those snap on trigger things -_-. But honestly, L2 and R2 doesn't bother me, my fingers don't "Slip off". -_-
sony will always win
ps3 with PSmove ll have games for every1 and every1 ll buy different games by their preferences.Unlike some other companies where only shooters sell. ps move day one 4 me,i just hope there ll be some sort of compilation disk with games.
I used to loathe the look of the Move controller especially with the orb. I mean let's be honest here, it does looks like a dildo. But after looking at recent pictures and videos with how the orb changes color according to your liking and specification (especially how you can set it to change color according to your health/mana bar), I'm starting to like the look of it more and more. And it looks so sleek in stuff.tv's pictures of the Move. It's like holding a mini version of Light Saber!
It reminds me of a Shure SM58 microphone, but maybe that's just the musician in me. I really don't get the dildo obsession on this site.
I was about to post to rant about the missing R1 button but that button in the center could be it. I'm glad they kept almost everything intact except for the 2nd analog stick but that's minor.
Is anyone else getting the feeling that Sony are taking notes about this generation and thinking about the nest one? Like listing all the PS3 complaints such as -Cross Game VOIP -Universal music -Trophies -All demos for PSN games -Universal 3D etc and in the next generation they will rectify them.
If I wanted motion control I'd just get a Wii. I'd much rather have cross-game chat, a PS2 emulator, the ability to send voice messages, I would like my controller to charge while the system is in standby, the ability to appear offline, a game invite system, and more. There's just so much stuff I'd rather have than Move.
I'd rather spend $100 on Move for my PS3 than $200 on a Wii.
Theres no reason why Sony can't do both motion controll and all those features, With PSN Premium coming a lot of those features you said could easily be coming soon, I hope.
My point is Sony should work on actually adding those features instead of trying to be like the Wii. We've been waiting long enough, it's been over 3 years.
if all these features are so important to you that you've been "waiting so long" to have them, why not play on 360? it has every feature you mentioned besides ps2 emulation. it seems to me you could just go get and xbox besides waiting for sony to turn ps3 into an xbox 360
Then build a PC for Gaming. 1 Play Wii/PS2 Games with Motion Controllers/Normal Controllers/Keyboard and Mouse in your PC. 2. Free and Better Service Cross Game Chat, system invite more advanced. BUT, if you are rich and want to spend some money in services that you think is more worth it because you pay for them, then wait for the Premium PSN, you will be glad. @asyouburn Doesn't matter now, Premium PSN is coming, all those and better services people want it are there.