TMC: Nick Cowen a reviewer from The Daily Telegraph UK, mostly known as Telegraph has posted his impressions on Alan Wake before his review is out. After playing the first 2 episodes Nick Cowen says that Alan Wake is unbelievable good!
Can't wait to get my hands on this game. Fanboys have been proven wrong once again.
Have they? Have they really? I'm not saying I don't think it won't be a great game, but not a single review... one guy's impressions? How does that prove anyone wrong?
Natsu I'm not hating on the game but just wait for the reviews lol
lmaoooo xtruthx the word "unbelievably" is the Key to the answer!
As usual, when it comes to anything positive about a 360 exclusive, we hear comments (from the usual suspects) like "don't take his word for it" and "wait until the reviews come out". Yet, when it comes to exclusives for competing consoles, we hear, over and over, comments like "game of the year" and "best game EVER made", MONTHS before the game is released or reviewed. As for me, EVERYTHING I've seen and heard so far about Alan Wake leads me to believe that it will be a fantastic game.
@PirateThom Of course there's no reviews...because there's an embargo obviously but this "guy" impressions are from THE "guy" that will post HIS review on Telegraph when the embargo is up. You closet fanboys can't be pleased. If it's an under embargo impression then it's not even a review, if it gets 1 review then it's just one guys opinion and we should wait for everyone else and if every other review agrees the game is great then they all got paid.
lol soxfan grow up, how many articles came saying how great metro was going to be. look how that turned out. Search my post history and if you find me saying "game of the year" and "best game EVER made" for a game ill take your seriously. On the other hand I think I can find some 1 who has said that. As for N4PS3G I don't see how any 1 would take him seriously when he has been caught making things up and submitting hate blogs most of the time.
In what sense? The fact that the game runs on 576p? Or the fact that this may actually turn out to be an excellent game? Very confusing.......... - End statement
@N4PS3G How does that make "Fanboys have been proven wrong once again" true? What if every other reviewer hates it? Do you see how ridiculous this statement is?
@Nat i have not doubt that Alan Wake will be a great game but there have been games in the past called "unbelievably" by some person on the net and turns out it isn't. And Natsu how come everytime you post you always finish with a "fanboy" thing at the end? To me it sounds like you are tryiong to provoke them. Anyway Yeah like i said i think Alan Wake is going to be a great game @Sox Both side of Fanboys do this They did it with Mass Effect, God of war, Alan Wake, Splinter cell:C, Halo reach, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2(but won), Gears of war 2, Infamouse, Fable 2, Demon Souls, ect And all of those that have been released have been contender for GOTY Take a look in the open zone when UC2 won GOTY Can't wait for this game to come out, After playing Heavy Rain i am very interested in this game now
game seems boring....
Of course the game will be good. They've taken it's 5+ years of polish and turned it into one of the most hyped 360 games for the year. The story and atmosphere will be epic. Only fanboys would deny it doesn't have the potential to be a resounding success and be an amazing game. Edit: Sorry PS3 fanboys, what I MEANT to say was this game will fail immensely and Remedy wasted 5 years developing this finely polished turd for no reason. Happy?
@Piratethom I'm obviously not "Natsu X FairyTail" but i could explain that to you 1. If you enter any exclusive game thread ( in this case Alan Wake ) you will see tons of people writing things like : ( Alan Flop, 5 years for a flop, this game will.. etc etc ) and those are statements with no fundaments or basis instead of fanboyish logic. 2. He's most likely no talking about every especific fanboy in the world but just saying those words to the "trolls" that go screaming in every Alan Wake thread saying it will suck* 3. A reviewer writes that Alan Wake is unbelievably good after playing it ..then "Natsu" feels he can use this as a partial prove to shut them up and show them how good alan wake is turning to be. 4. Some fanboys says a game will be bad and people will find something to prove them wrong for a while...yes this is only one guy but you need to see to who he's actually referring when he says that statement and it's probably to a bunch of spamming ignorant fanboys. So yeah i don't think there's nothing wrong with him saying that fanboys got proven wrong here. It's not definitive cus in the end this are only opinions ...but atleast he has something to back him up instead of people talking out of their a$$es and thats good enough at least to prove those people with nothing to base their opinions like the guy above me (mista T) and the bitter fanboys agreeing with him because they have nothing good to say about this guys impressions ;).
Really guys? Newspaper reviews? Never in my wildest moments of delusion would I take a non-gaming news outlet's opinion of a game seriously. During my 20+ years as a gamer, mainstream media has consistently proven to be a colossal joke when trying to do segments on gaming. Completely ignorant. I think Alan Wake looks pretty good myself, and I do plan on buying it next month, but come on. Leave some straws for the rest of us to clutch. Suppose that's typical of N4PS3G's blog, though. Lies, slander, propaganda and tornado-like spin. All in a day's work for this blogger.
I wouldn't call an "initial" impression as something to back up the game's quality. If anything, it may incur a higher percentage chance that it would be received positively but it's not definite. Let us look at Heavy Rain, the initial impressions were always "meh" not to mention many French reviews would label it exactly what many fanboys have predicted. In other words, it would see that the game would go to the "flop" zone... That was until there was the lift of the embargo and we have seen many-a-positive outcome of the game. And it even exceeded beyond expectations by selling over 1.5 million copies. A total 180 as opposed to the initial impressions. The same logic can be applied here. Although I truly want this game to succeed as a gamer but let's not also deny the situation at hand. -End statement
How is it that everytime I'm enjoying some xbox news This pirate thorn guy is always the corner to backfire something back at me? this dude can't stand Positive news about Xbox games. So why the hell you be clicking on the links? You guys are soo insecure the fanboys true colors are showing. And yeah , go ahead and call me a "fanboy" but hey when's the last time I said something bad about the PS3 itself and it's games? You guys are always trying to start stuff against me for dumb reasons but I'm never talking against the Sony console and it's games.You guys call me a Xbox360 Fanboy because I dont bash the xbox360 like most of the people here. Havent you guys noticed that everytime there's something going on Where I'm involved it's some PS3 fanboys in a Xbox360 thread starting the BS? More proof for you guys. Desperation at it's best.
If my memory serves me right, PirateThom once said that he would "enjoy Mass Effect 2 no matter how many discs." ***Positive reception on a 360 EXCLUSIVE??? ***GASSSPPPPP -End statement
Geoff Keighley told HipHopGamer that Alan Wake is a 8.5/10 game.. http://hiphopgamershow.ning...
PirateThom is a pretty reasonable person. However there are numerous of PS3 fanboys on this site that dominate the articles. Any 360 news is spun as bad, and PS3 news, no matter what, is praised as long as it does PS3 praising. PS3 trolls will get numerous agrees yet any 360 troll will get the opposite. When SCC gets reviewed by IGN its "oh, strange how their final score isn't an average, it should be an average, so the games score should be lower". Yet that complain is non existent when GoW's review was out simply because PS3 fanboys like the shiny 9.3/10 score over an 8.9/10 average. An article talking about how FF13's 360 sales are doing well turns into a "lol, we have the best version" graphics argument. Trolling and off topic childishness at its finest getting approved simply because the majority are the same way. Alan Wake gets trounced on by fanboys who pop out of hiding when they find out that a false news piece states it has lower resolution. RESOLUTION out of all things, which has the most minimal effect on graphics. A large majority here would take pleasure in seeing AW fail, and that is what a fanboy does. Alan Wake is called black and white and said person will receive agrees, yet these same people will flip out when somebody says Killzone 2 is black and white. Just a few examples of double standards around here. The site is dominated by Sony fans, and that is a fact that clearly shows that they have an unwavering influence on what is accepted around here. Yet when you point this out you end up an anti-Sony fanboy or a hater. But PirateThom is one who will give a reasonable and fair response. Am I wrong here? Go back to those articles if you think I am. This is just one review but it's an indication that AW is obviously not a horrible failure. Still, it's best to wait just in case something goes horribly wrong, though that may most likely not happen. I haven't seen one game that was properly hyped and expected to do well fail miserably. Except MW2, which WAS a good game, but nothing that hardcore CoD4 fans expected. Not since LAIR have I seen a game hyped fail really badly. Hype fails very rarely. If anything a game becomes overhyped, but the game still remains good. So I don't know why, when it comes to Alan Wake, there are numerous people expecting it to fail.
AW looks really great, and I wish I had a 360 to play it. Why people would hope for the game to fail is beyond me. Remedy has already mentioned, it's having financial issues and come on guys, they have spent 5 years into the game 5 YEARS!!! What if someone wishes your last 5 years would be a failure? Remedy is actually counting on AW to bail them out and I hope it works out for them and 360 gamers support it. It's fun to just poke people here and make fun, but come on people show some class will you.
It's rumored to run in 547p. Despite some resolution setbacks, the game still looks like it will be a fantastic experience. I really love the theme of the game and the setting is simply brilliant. I wish more games took place in the pacific northwest.
game looks great. but i take newspaper views with a pinch of salt. i have to admit it , but so far this year has been epic with games on all platforms.
and whys that? because it cant handle 720P native and 4x aa? but its all about the gameplay isnt it?
GOTY confirmed. It's Remedy :)
Alpha the only problem about you is your hypocrisy, I see you is most articles and you only talk about ps3 fanboys this and ps3 fanboys that, you always dismiss the 360 fanboys ? and you call any 1 who doesn't like a game a fanboy. If this site was run by ps3 fanboys like most say, saaking and many others like him would have 10 bubbles yet they have 1 or 2.
Dark, With all due respect I have never seen you on here so I don't know how you got two bubbles. When I said "spinning" I gave a list. That is what I was referring to. "And why can't we say that the game isn't something we're excited about" Because that is what is never said. People don't say they don't like it, they go out of their way to sabotage it and make sure that that game is hated by everybody else or deemed a failure. Hence why fanboys danced in the AW resolution article. True fans of the industry would be disappointed, they wouldn't be happy for bad news unless they HATE the game or what it stands for I'm happy that you dont want the game to fail, but you are an exception How is this Sh*t? A guy, who has played the game, liked it. Nobody is forcing anything. In fact, the opposite can be said: there is so much hate and negativity on here towards 360 games like AW (look at the resolution news article), that news like this helps alleviate that fanboy negativity. And notice when I say negativity I don't mean that people don't like it, I mean the people that WANT it to fail. As for how stuff gets approved: It only takes 10 votes to get something approved and anybody can do it. But I see far more bad PS3 praising articles and 360 hating articles get not only approved but LIKED You post reasonable comments and if its of any consolation I'll track you and bubble you if you are anywhere as argumentative as you are here. The people that call out a liked article are called TROLLS which is a very juvenile way of ignoring an issue. Somebody isn't a troll just because they disagree with something. I have given you a list above that shows how PS3 comments have a double standard. Yet, for pointing it out and trying to be fair I get called a troll or an anti-Sony fanboy/360 fanboy. Sorry, but doing something like bashing the 360 version of FF in a SALES article by making fun of graphics is the real trolling. Double standard, once again. Truth, you say that I'm a hypocrite for only calling out 360 fanboys, yet fail to realize that when PS3 fanboys troll around here they are more accepted. Sure, Saaking sits at two bubbles, but I'm not saying it's always the case, just that it's mostly the case. And what's wrong with calling out fanboys despite their grouping? You shouldn't be upset that I call out PS3 fanboys if they are indeed fanboys to begin with. Additionally 360 fanboys are thoroughly beaten by others before I even get to articles, so what's the point of me putting in my word? For appearances? PS3 fanboys are ACCEPTED much more than 360 fanboys, and that is the real problem. If you truly believe that I ONLY call out PS3 fanboys then PM me a request to prove you wrong and I will give you links proving otherwise. My most controversial comments are glorified by the amount of ps3 fans disagreeing with me, which is why you notice most my comments as PS3-hating. Yet, when I say something critical about the 360 my comment ends up in a sea of other similar comments doing the same. Don't you get it? Only when being critical of the PS3 do red flags go off around here and those people get labeled a certain way. This is even more proof of how it is around here.
Because of the 360's 10MB EDRAM, increasing MSAA and Resolution requires tiling which, in turn, significantly increases the geometry processing requirements. 1 tile: 592P with 2xMSAA, 720P no AA, 2 tiles: 592P with 4xMSAA, 720P with 2xMSAA, 1080P with no AA, 540P with 4xMSAA (Alan Wake) 3 tiles: 720P with 4xMSAA 4 tiles: 1080P with 2xMSAA
Nothing here justifies anything currently. More elaboration and reasons would help. But we already know the game is good, Microsoft has been prepping it up big time and it will have an extensive campaign launch. But one single opinion doesn't "prove" anything just yet.
I'm a multi-platform gamer. Meaning, I have friends who have PS3s and 360s, and I'd often go to their places to finish entire games. Except for console RPGs like FFXIII (which I haven't played), the most I think we've ever taken with some games is two ENTIRE weekends. Understand that this in a country with a 100 degrees Fahrenheit temperature, where just going outside is guaranteed to roast you alive. And we can't get together all the time. I'm a fan of horror games. I'd love to be able to play Alan Wake on PC, but Remedy decided to stick with the 360. I have no qualms about admitting that I'd brave the heat, restrictive schedules (graduation is just around the corner) and more to traverse to a friend's place to play this when it releases. I guess what I'm trying to say is, despite being a horror game fan and interested in Wake, it still boils down to how the game plays. I hope to God it's fun. Expectations-wise, I like to not know much about the horror property in question to allow for maximum scares. But for games, it can't be just the story, the gameplay has to measure up. Even if every one says the game is good, I'll only get my enjoyment if I experience it myself. So all I'm saying - Natsu, Alpha, Thom, Truth and every one else - is that even if all the reviews are positive, let's just put them aside when playing the game. Not to allow any one else's opinion to sway us, but just so we can enjoy the game and be horrified, shocked and surprised first-hand. :)
Alpha what do you consider a fanboy is? and y do you think many are accepted ? because they lie or wut ? because if some 1 says that game doesn't look good hes automatically a fanboy ? thats y we have the disagree. If some 1 says "those graphics arent as good as that game" just because some 1 agree's with them because its the truth like in most cases, doesn't mean every 1 is a fanboy. Like I have said before, people in this site tend to call people who tell the truth a fan boy.
I have a very expansive philosophy on fanboyism that divulges past the gaming industry, if you really want to have a (friendly) discussion about it then PM me because I don't want to create another wall of text. In essence: Anybody who has an unreasonable hate for Product X solely because it threatens Product Y. "if some 1 says that game doesn't look good hes automatically a fanboy" I have never said this "people in this site tend to call people who tell the truth a fan boy." Oh believe me, I know. They don't get called a fanboy as much as they get called a troll. Yet, nobody will ever bother to construct a counter-response, they solely hide behind calling others fanboys or trolls. Calling something truth is also very debatable. Only through debating does one arrive at more solid conclusions. I am not claiming anything I say is solid truth, but until someone can respond to me why I'm wrong I have no reason to believe that I am. The easiest and most ineffective way people do that is by hiding behind the disagree button. @Carlton Sorry.
Thought blogs weren't allowed here.
Impressions from one guy from the Daily Telegraph UK and we can pretend that confirms it is an "unbelievably good" game? It sure doesn't take much to impress fanboys... EDIT: Ahh, it's another article from N4PS3G's blogspot channel.
"lmaoooo xtruthx the word "unbelievably" is the Key to the answer!" Oh my what a shame do you actually take one guy impression seriously lol
Graphics of this game look good from those gameplay videos Off Topic: I hear various people post on here alluding to the fact this site is full of ps3 fans and how ps3 fanboys are the worst the fact is no fanboy is worst than another. Alpha were you on this site on 2007, I was on this site since 2007 before I made an account in 2008, in 2007 this site was so run 360 fanboys such as the The Mart people whould lose all their bubbles trying to reason with 360 fanboys they would get the typical ps3 has no games or go back to your blu ray player response. And you talk of ps3 fanboys disagreeing have a look at this: http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/... Hmm i wonder why they disagreed was it his MGS4 Avater??? NO fanboy is worse than another, I think we should spend less time talking about them and more time talking about the news.
You still on your quest to even the level for the 360 fanboys who are outnumbered by the PS3 fanboys in here as the console war drags on? You still preaching your so-called neutral, " lets eradicate fanboyism" sermons? Well that is your aim is it not? I think you should just stop it already, I've seen so many people on here notice what a hypocrite you are. Ask guys like XTruthX and Jamie Foxx and more, they all have stated that you have major hypocritical tendencies. You clearly prefer the 360 and everyone knows that so stop pretending you are making anti-PS3 comments to make this console war a bit 'fairer'. I really dont know why you are on a mission to achieve civil rights equality in the gaming community. Gamers will always be fanboys in some form of another if they support and like a particular brand so just get over it and stop b*tching! Listen up Alpha don't you realise that your anti-PS3 comments in defence of 360 fanboyonly adds more fuel to the fire? It certainly does not placate the PS3 crowd, it simply fires them up even more and they make more anti-360 comments just to annoy you and you always take the bait. And you further look silly when always claim to neutral at the same time. Seriously, give it up. There is nothing wrong in discussing consoles and gaming and taking sides but....damn! Why would anyone get so upset and emotional about console wars and fanboys? Don't these guys have a life? On topic, I'm sure Alan Wake will be a very good game. I would'nt say it has out-of-this-world, spectacular graphics, but it still looks good. I like the sound of the game's plot/storyline, it looks interesting and I would admit that I would like this and the ME 1&2 to come on the PS3. However, I would not buy a 360 just to play those two games. Thats my two cents spent on this subject. EDIT: @ 4Sh0w - Alpha Male needs to give it up because he's looking very silly. He claims to be neutral but he always seen on here making seemingly anti-PS3 comments or defending anything 360-related. No matter what his so-called, good intentions are - a lot of people on here have noticed this fact and therefore he's developed a reputation on here as a clear-cut hyprocrite and he will end not being taken seriously by others. I dont need to own or like two consoles to see anything on both sides, it's very simple - fanboys are fanboys it dont matter which side or how many numbers are on each team. Just be real what you feel and at least we all know what toe expect from you, dont try and be a wolf in sheep's clothing. @ Alpha Male - I'm not turning a blind eye to nothing. It is what it is. Ok now, there are more PS3 fanboys in here, so what? What about a few years ago when it was different and the 360 crowd ran this place? It dont matter who runs what or who dominates, no one can force anyone to think this way or that way so I can't understand why you are on this quest to fight the might of the PS3 crowd. If you are neutral and more interested in just games then forget about these fanboys and live in peace.
Natsu's comment was a very general statement and it was directed at "Fanboys", which frankly it doesn't take much to prove fanboys wrong anyway. "I'm not saying I don't think it won't be a great game, but not a single review... one guy's impressions?" Yeah its a single guy's impression, saying AW is "unbelievably good!", so I really don't understand your WARNING for caution, this is very standard positive pre-launch news we see for almost every game, I skimmed over a few GoW previews praising the game and how great it WILL BE yet I don't see you or much of any of these same people saying "hold on, lets wait for all the reviews before we get excited" or something to that effect, NO its just here in 360 gaming news, sure ANY game has the potential to not turn out as great as hoped but 360 and ps3 have done just fine for the most part. If I didnt know any better I would start to think given the mass sony favoritism on this site, its just taboo to get excited about anything to do with the 360. So far this year I've been excited about Bayonetta, ME2, Metro 2033, SCC and of course GoW3, out of all of them the only one that was a bit dissappointing was Metro 2033 which up until 2mo before its released I never even heard of the game, still it wasn't a bad game just not among the other greats I listed above imo. So again odd's are Alan Wake WILL BE at least a good game which WILL PROVE ALOT OF FANBOYS WRONG, by any reasonable standard that you can use "prove" anything subjective wrong. @HolyOrangeCows, Did you say the same thing in Gow3 previews? @Will-UK, yes some fanboys are worst than others, we're all fanboys really, but some of us at least try to look at things without hatred, bias, while applying some measure of maturity, clearly some don't even attempt this so NO all fanboys are not equal, also n4g has been plagued with flamebait from both sides since the begining, only difference is there are less over-zealous 360 fanboys who still come to this site vs ps3 fanboys, it seems some have become what they hate, I would never let the insecurity of others dictate my behavior by becoming just like them to justify my current behavior= they win, you end up coming here less for the enjoyment of gaming are more to argue and pick fights, and now you enjoy gaming less. @Official General, why would Alpha need to give anything up? I would think a gamer, interested more in gaming than petty console war crap, would join him, did you even read what he said, I've seen him speak negatively of 360, but he's right more often than not its easy to find yourself point out the hypocrisy of sony fans vs 360 fans because its simply waaaay more prevelant by the sheer # of hostile ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys on this site, its really common sense, but I think you would have to be a dual console owner who appreciates both to actually see it.
@Will Were I where here in 2007 I'd rightfully bash the 360 fanboys the same way. I have seen this pop up so many times but it's completely irrelevant. Is it supposed to justify the shift of PS3 fanboys today? Because it shouldn't. You say no fanboy is worse than the other and I don't disagree, I'm simply saying one group is more dominant than the other here. @oFficer general, I'm not trying to eradicate anything, however when people make comments referring to how I'm a 360 fanboy I will tell them how I stand on the issue. You disregard my points and turn a blind eye to the dominant role played here by implying that it's a lost cause. I'm not trying to eradicate the idiocy of how things are run here, just making sure that when you are going to attack me on something that I'm going to defend why I do what I do. I've already explained to Truth what you reiterated in your comment so there's no point in bringing it up yet again. You say I'm emotional, but I'm quite calm about it: if my rhetoric sounds overly dramatic then that's not my intention but I'd hope that you would see past the one dimensional assumption that I'm just an anti-PS3 fanboy because that's far from the truth. Like 4Show said, PS3 fanboyism is more prevalent, but even worse, more accepted. I would love nothing more than to ease up and chill around N4G but I can't stand something that goes against my better judgment. It may end up preachy, controversial, or unpopular, but that doesn't change the message I'm trying to make. @4Show Exactly: there should be no reason to defend fanboys here and what Natsu said is easily permissible considering he is attacking the general fanboy. However, I'm not so quick to say that it's going to be that great judging on one guy's opinion but it certainly is good news to see people enjoying the game.
Can't wait for this game. Let the doubters bash the game because it's not Gears or Halo. Not every game needs multiplayer, not every game needs action every 5 seconds. Here's hoping for the slower paced thriller that fans of the genre have been waiting for.
"Is it supposed to justify the shift of PS3 fanboys today?" No its not but im showing you not long ago one group is more dominant here was the 360 fanboys. Two wrongs do not make a right but I can see how the site may have shifted this way after the same treatment happened before to ps3 fans. "I have seen this pop up so many times but it's completely irrelevant." I wouldnt say its irrelevant, history can show you why the site may be this way and why we should not be so quick to judge. All im saying is ps3 has its share of fanboys, 360 has its share of fanboys and pc has its share. I think we should focus on the news. @4Sh0w "only difference is there are less over-zealous 360 fanboys who still come to this site vs ps3 fanboys" I disagree thier are still some on this site foxgod for example calling people who like heavy rain "special".
I think I'll wait and see for myself. As of right now, it looks like it's all hype.
Agree with you. The reason why I say it's irrelevant is because it's something that is used as some sort of justification. You say two wrongs don't make a right and that it's brought up to show why PS3 fans here act the way they do but that in itself is a justification for the behavior. I'm just trying to point out that a vicious circle will exist so long as people fall into the exact same patterns of reasoning of fanaticism. And though people like Officer General may think that that means I'm trying to preach or change the way things are run I'm simply trying to point it out to make it apparent so that hopefully some people can see the roots of how fanboyism shape our perceptions of the industry. No PS3 fan is expected to say something negative about "his brotherhood", yet I'll do it, and even criticize the PS3 not because I hate it, but because I don't have some sort of obligation to it. So far as people think that way my comments will be deemed fanboyism, but I have rarely seen people just come out and counter argue my points. Edit: regardless of what I say is harsh I provided a list of examples for saying what I said. I'll try to be less harsh, and maybe that's what constitutes for my seemingly emotional rhetoric: I'll keep it in mind, thanks. @Official above You did the exact same thing me and Will have been discussing and that is excuse/ignore the fanboyism. 2 wrongs don't make a right. So what if 360 fanboys ruled before? PS3 fans dominate here. You don't deny it. You appeal to some popular consensus people have on me as if your hand-picked crowd illustrate anything against me. Yet you don't deny the population of PS3 fanboys on here and settle for "it is what it is". So why not just respond to my comments instead of hiding behind what others think? If your opinion of me is fortified through what others think then you really haven't been reading my comments around here at all. Yes, I attack PS3 FANBOYS, key word being fanboys meaning people who are by nature haters. Like I said, I already conversed this with Truth, so if you don't want to read what I wrote there then I'm not going to repeat myself. This is my last bubble so take care
"So why the hell you be clicking on the links?" Because they don't want to fight fair! In there minds they've already lost this generation so they will say any thing possible that's negative about the rival console just to pretend both are on the same level. Fact is 360 is on a totally different level then PS3 by providing an experience Sony is still trying to mimic across the board. Sony fanboys even try and say 360 fanboys are the same when in reality we are not and never have been. All we've done is clearly try and explain why 360 deserves some credit while they sit here and pretend Sony is really doing something this generation and deserves all the credit. My advice to gamers abroad is simply ignore these few multi account PS3 fanboys that think for whatever reason there opinions are the only opinions that mean something. AW is huge so naturally they will fight dirty and spread fud as if it's not on the same level as UC2 and KZ2. Honestly I could care less how they feel because right now where getting tons of gaming love on the way from MS. E3 is going to be great and I tell you right now the haters have been and now really will lose there so called war on MS and it's gamers.
I agree with this "I'm just trying to point out that a vicious circle will exist so long as people fall into the exact same patterns of reasoning of fanaticism." however this will happen always as we all witness with windows and mac fanboys people will always feel attached to something they bought but some dont. For example a person buys a new mercedes and you love it then someone says "look at the crappy car my bmw is so much better" the person feels a need to justify his purchase and stop lies going around.So he argues back. "No PS3 fan is expected to say something negative about "his brotherhood", yet I'll do it" I would not say that many ps3 fans say negative things about ps3 i think its the way you phrase it. To many people writing long paragrpahs is seen as a wall of text and I think many find you observation harsh like "Any 360 news is spun as bad, and PS3 news, no matter what, is praised as long as it does PS3 praising." I would say that happens for both sides but i do agree we are going to have a cycle.
@4Sh0w "only difference is there are less over-zealous 360 fanboys who still come to this site vs ps3 fanboys" I disagree thier are still some on this site foxgod for example calling people who like heavy rain "special". bro, I don't mean to sound harsh but either you're purposely missing the point or you have a way of only hearing what you want to once you have your mind made up about something= key word: LESS. Common sense applies, this is a free anonymous site about gaming, the age demographic ranges likely from 8 to 40+ on this site so you're NEVER NOT going to see imature fanboy flamebait type comments, expecting such is just very, very naive, which is why I TRY only to respond to people who I at least think have some rational intelect. Now of course there are some over-zealous 360 fanboys on n4g, always will be, my point however is that there are far, far more ps3 fanboys, that in and of itself doesn't bother me, the classic "this game sucks" along with the 4th grade rants are fine since its obvious they are either children or have the mental capacity of a young kid, in either case I can spot them a mile away and nobody really takes them seriously so no harm, no foul really. I more don't understand why the immaturity, bias, hate and trolling etc from those who I think are better than that, these are the people who possess the knowledge and maturity to make the "over-zealous" immature fanboys on both sides a vocal but irrevelant annoyance, once they lose the attention that they crave so badly they will move on and the industry and this site will be better off for it. @truth, don't pretend to know WHY so many 360 fanboys are no longer around, thats simply your spin on it, then the next fanboy will say its because they have so many great games to play, or that they are more mature, have jobs/know better sites without all the ps3fanboys/started their own site, etc, etc and the spin continues, fact is this site is great for gaming news, I won't stoop to flaming one console because I prefer another or because some fanboy "did it too" like a 7 yr old, its fine to disagree, have preference, point out negatives about anything, but when you find yourself spending the majority of your time making anti 360 comments while making pro ps3 comments, you've simply gravitated to becoming something we all should shy away from because its simply impossible for someone who really likes games to feel negatively about everything 360 and positive about everything ps3 or vice versa, it simply doesn't happen with a normal open minded gamer.
bro, I don't mean to sound harsh but either you're purposely missing the point or you have a way of only hearing what you want to once you have your mind made up about something= key word: LESS I understand perfectly what you said, what im getting at is both sides have the same amount of over-zealous fanboys however their are probably more normal ps3 fanboys (the kids if you like lol) than normal 360 fanboys. But like I said before and what you have repeated is, if we focus on the news and dont give then the attention they will eventually go away.
nobody is denying the existence of 360 fanboys. we're saying there's a giant imbalance. for every 1 360 fanboy there has to be 10-20 ps3 fanboys on n4g. that's being conservative. you need an example to support it? *even though you don't because it's obvious and you're just playing dumb to make a worthless point* ex: this is a 360 only article...and there's more ppl arguing for the ps3 than the 360. now go look at a ps3 article. there maybe 1 or 2 360 fanboys, and all their comments have been removed, and they've all lost 1-2 bubbles. it's obvious to anyone who ISN'T a ps3 fanboy that you people dominate this site. and it's becoming more and more obvious that n4g is actually run by ps3 fanboys because everywhere you go, you see blatant, idiotic comments from the ps3 fanboys that have nothing to do with the article or the discussion in the comments, and the comment remains--never gets removed. as for alan wake: glad to already hear the good news coming in. hope the game is as good as it looks. gaming needs it. 2009 was the biggest bust in gaming for a while, and this year hasn't really been any better so far. splinter cell is pretty awesome though. but not the game you'll hear everyone talking about. then again, we already know that at the end of the year we have 2 games coming that EVERYONE will be talking about: Halo Reach and StarCraft 2
OMG! Do you guys need more proof that the sony fanboys are full of insecurity???? Just check out the disagrees and comments on this one. WOW! Sony fanboys are showing their frustration. :)
LOL! It's a regular comment #1 family reunion again. You got the typical cast here doing their typical routine. Just ignore them.
Alan Wake has made good impressions on me for quite some time and I am really looking forward to it. All the people in this thread trying to appear reasonable and acting like they are neutral gamers just calling for a little constraint are really big hypocrites. Whenever positive news comes about a PS3 game, no matter how remote the game is from release, I never see these people try to play it down. Quite the contrary, they play it up as much as they can. These people have an obvious track record and are fooling no one. Anybody can easily see by my commenting history that I praise games on the PS3 and 360 nearly equally. I like both of those consoles and the extreme fanboyism I regularly see on this site leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Unfortunately no sensible person can say that the fanboyism is equal on all sides. It is clearly not. Wii fanboyism is almost non-existant, 360 fanboyism is medium, and PS3 fanboyism is at a very high level. That's just the way it is. To deny it is to deny the obvious reality that we see everyday on this site.
You think I'm spinning this lol ? you want me to start posting link's from 2 years ago ? to show you how the articles where full of bashings ? ps3 song, blu ray slow, no games, multiplats on ps3 suck, psn sucks, I can go on and on. I don't need to spin anything, I can show you it
CNT WAIT FOR THIS. stroytelling to the next level.
OK, do your best, and for every link you post of a negative ps3 thread, I'll post a negative 360 thread(PM you, I'm out of bubbles, lol, its n4g though). I've been around this site for awhile....hell I didnt bother becoming a member for like a year after I was first heard of this site. lmfao at you trying to portray n4g as if it was some innocent place for gamers until 360 fans came along and ruined it. Lets see where do I start, How about waay before launch and listening to sony's arrogant PR machine saying how "everyone will work harder to buy a ps3"?, How about before the ps3 launched and how every 360 launch game was critiqued to death by ps3 fanboys because of course we all knew ps3 launch games would be so much better? How about having to listen to ps3 fanboys for a year long laughing at 360 sales and how ps3 would eclipse 360 install base in 6 months because ps2 owners are all waiting for the ps3 to launch? How about every single report of even just 1 person's 360 RROD being posted as news+ plenty duplicates being approved daily when the source was the same, ps3 fanboys were having a field day, IGN and other sites had parody comedy skits about RROD and every 360 news thread no matter what it was about was filled with off-topic comments from some random sony extremists ranting about his 8th RROD= There plenty more hate topics towards the 360 and that was all BEFORE ps3 launched, hell many 360 fans were anticipating ps3 launch more than ps3 fans just so ps3 fans would finally shut up already about 'teh cell, or so we thought. lol, but that didnt stop the hate from the ps3 loyalists and now to this day all you can remember is when sony got blasted because their year long arrogant comments that you saoked in as fact didnt pan out, and you along with many other faithful extrmists got luaghed at, dont blame us blame your beloved sony. Now every since the day ps3 launched you and your fellow sony worshiping trolls have been using every excuse in the book to hate on the 360 to justify you irrational brand attatchment. So cut the BS and stop trying to re-write n4g history. I only have one bubble but if anybody disagrees with me PM me and I'll PM you plenty of links of everything I just described. Lets not kid ourselves wii & pc fanboys come and go, 360 fanboys spend more of their time focused on 360 than ps3 becuase they dont give a shiii about ps3 at heart, their more than satisfied with their 360, Yes there a some exceptions but just look around this site and you will see that besides a few ridiculous 360 fanboys, most of the folks labeled 360 fanboys are not rabidly attatched to ps3 news, you won't find them all over stuff like recent negative firmware issues, game delays, positive ps3 exclusive previews(like this positive 360 exclusive game impression) are not downplayed by tons of 360 fans, flamebait ps3 exclusive articles created for hits arent filled with massive amounts of 360 fans, check out the news about Bayonetta being inferior to the 360 version, look at the overall responses, then look at FFXIII situation, and tell me if 360 fanboys care more about the "console war" than ps3 fanboys do, lol dammm its like ps3 fanboys have a inferiority complex, which truly does make them the worst, Destructoid was spot on for a reason, many gaming journalist allude to getting a almost ridiculous amout of fanboy hate when they negatively critcize anything ps3 vs 360, wii, or pc. Sonyfanboys are like the gutless alley theives of the industry, waiting constantly in the shadows for their chance for blood, they would rather use all their energy to attack something they dont like, as oppose to directing that energy towards something they value. Again, not all but any nonbiased gamer can see this is the general difference between the communities overall on this site. You and Pirate Tom are right on cue as 2 types of ps3 extremists that dominate n4g, he stealth trolls 360 news and you just outright love to hate anything 360. JOY
This is so amazing. N4g has gone to the dogs, it really has. Well done, Mods, for allowing this to happen. Here we have another article about Alan Wake, in the 360 section only, giving someone's opinion of the game. Witness the ugly ps3 fanboys attack from all sides, downplaying and degrading this game. Half of the comments so far serve no purpose except to reiterate proven lies about the 720p resolution and general negativity. It's just poor form. Why can't ps3 fanboys stay the f*ck away from 360 news? Why don't they go and play KZ2 and UC2? Surely that's more fun than showing childish jealousy and insecurity about what could be a really amazing game exclusively on 360... ...oh wait.. NOW i see why they are here.
lmao the truth, 360 fb's reported our comments so people wouldnt see it and they left jokes on you comment rofl. Do we need more proof of biased even in the same site ? thank god i take screen shots of everything. Hey the one who deleted my comment, how is this off topic but youkesonyou, shadow, mlg pro, GiantEnemyCrab, Therealspy03, 4Sh0w, Will-UK, lowcarb, Alpha-Male22, President Tretton and on isnt off topic ? am I different from them ? Cause it feels like I am apparently (Original Comment) Joke you think Ima read all that ? and from you? You must be high to think any 1 serious would. You think you'll win kid ? This is my second acc on N4G, ive been here more than you believe me. Edit: LOL omg, I dont even need to look for the links, you provide them with your post history since your very first post with that acc. Example (This are from JokesOnYou very first post's) 1) I don't see anything great about home It's just some stupid Second life rip off that nobody but 12 yrs will be on walkin around some silly virtual world talkin to a bunch of other kiddies about how super sony is. I guess sony has to give you sony fanatics something to do cause they sure is hell aint giving you know games to play this year.= JOY sony kids 2) This update is pathetic.....jeesh, Sony kids get excited over any turd released on the pathetic sony network. -what a joke. 3) It's free cause it sucks if it ever turns out to be worth a damm then sony's going to charge you the moon, but don't worry that won't happen anytime soon this is just something to do in between watching poo-ray movies. micro hardware sucks but I bet I could send my 360 back 10 times and still get more gaming fun out of it then I would from poo-ray player. 4) Sony kids are plastering this site with the same old poo-ray has won news from fanboy blogs DO YOU SONY KIDS THINK THAT THIS POOR LITTLE SITE IS GOING TO DICTATE WHETHER THE FORMAT WAR? ITS FAR FROM OVER AND JUST CAUSE YOU FONY BOYS SAY ITS OVER DOESN'T MAKE IT OVER IN THE REAL WORLD OUTSIDE N4G. poo-ray hasn't won anything BB's descision was a non-factor, more poo-ray movies are selling cause ps3turds have nothing to play, which is exactly what sony intended when they created the poo-ray player with a ps logo on it. 5) yeah I started reading this site like a week ago, Didn't you say you had started to look at this say how much time b4 you made an account? lmao!!!!!!!! You really represent what I say in my post joy. With your links and mine you'll really look bad Hey shadow I dont need to do anything to prove to you I was right, just look at jokes on you history, if you need any extras(which i rlly doubt) BTW i Love the hiding disagrees :), that 2 come from the same person lol! See what happens when you say the truth ? you loose bubbles like i did :)
To be honest I think any and every site that delivers gaming news should disable the ability for people to leave their opinion; 'cause so many people can't handle it, they get upset for no reason and act like little kids, I don't care how old they are, so any and all sites that deal with things of this nature should just be done with the "leave a comment, let us know what you think" section. In a world full of ignorance I grow tired of seeing it on websites So I think that the commenting section should removed.
lol wow Would have never expected PirateThom to be nerdraging on Allan Wake. It seems as if his true colors have been exposed.
Natsu, nobody has been proven wrong. This game has been well received at almost every preview and it's hype is AAAE. It's going to be a great game whether it reaches that score or not. Just play your games and stop worrying about who got proven wrong.
I think that it has been talked up and now this guys impressions are sort of saying what M$ have been saying. Could it be that Alan Wake does something quite spectacular never done before? It's looking more likely.
1.5 - @PirateThom Of course there's no reviews...because there's an embargo obviously but this "guy" impressions are from THE "guy" that will post HIS review on Telegraph when the embargo is up. You closet fanboys can't be pleased. If it's an under embargo impression then it's not even a review, if it gets 1 review then it's just one guys opinion and we should wait for everyone else and if every other review agrees the game is great then they all got paid. ----------------------------- ------------ OH MY GOD! he just owned PirateThom and the whole Sony Loyalists Defense Force in N4G and the whole web. BUBBLES, Agrees and YEAH!!!! BLAST THEM ALL!!! AND THEN.... he answer back to the little hobbit "PirateThom" 1.12 - @Piratethom I'm obviously not "Natsu X FairyTail" but i could explain that to you 1. If you enter any exclusive game thread ( in this case Alan Wake ) you will see tons of people writing things like : ( Alan Flop, 5 years for a flop, this game will.. etc etc ) and those are statements with no fundaments or basis instead of fanboyish logic. 2. He's most likely no talking about every especific fanboy in the world but just saying those words to the "trolls" that go screaming in every Alan Wake thread saying it will suck* 3. A reviewer writes that Alan Wake is unbelievably good after playing it ..then "Natsu" feels he can use this as a partial prove to shut them up and show them how good alan wake is turning to be. 4. Some fanboys says a game will be bad and people will find something to prove them wrong for a while...yes this is only one guy but you need to see to who he's actually referring when he says that statement and it's probably to a bunch of spamming ignorant fanboys. So yeah i don't think there's nothing wrong with him saying that fanboys got proven wrong here. It's not definitive cus in the end this are only opinions ...but atleast he has something to back him up instead of people talking out of their a$$es and thats good enough at least to prove those people with nothing to base their opinions like the guy above me (mista T) and the bitter fanboys agreeing with him because they have nothing good to say about this guys impressions ;). ------------------------- LOL!!! PirateThom just quit dude... JUST quit.
Ill judge whether ill buy alan wake through more reviews.
Telegraph hahahahahaha wait for a real review from a real site.
i'm not gonna take their word for it. they do horrible review for games. i rofl'd when the aussie daily telegraph gave paramore's brand new eyes a 2 and a half stars. newspapers reviews can kiss my ass.
maybe because paramore is a very average band. I agree with the 2 and a half stars after listening to the cd. Opinions are opinions.
The funny thing is he is a bad games reviewer. It has nothing to do with being a Fanboy. He just as bad as the Metro newspaper reviewer. These people that do these reviews are also not journalists. They are just average joes of the street. The newspaper do not even pay them as it done on a free look at how big my dong is because i write for a big newspaper.
first i own ps3, Alan Wake isn´t best looking game on the consoles, it´s probably U2 or KZ 2, but Alan Wake will be awesome game, graphics is not everything in games ! and it would be fail if Alan Wake wasn´t unbelievably good...
After 2 episodes? I though reviewers were supposed to review full game, and who the hell is Telegraph anyway??? Edit: Below about my avatar, why do you care who I wannabe, Mr. perfect guy? Anyway I'm truly sorry if my avatar hurts your feeling.