So You Hate Campers?

Associatedcontent: Why Modern Warfare 2 Players Should Stop Whining!

I'll bet, in actual battlefield situations, that campers are hated, too. "I'll wish that sniper would just come out of there and run around like a fool so we would have a chance against
him."

[Gandalf]

But that's the thing, it's not real life. If you're going to compare the game to real life, then you're no better than the kids who stole cars and blamed Grand Theft Auto.

And of course you're going to camp with a sniper rifle. Unless you know how to quickscope, I don't think it's a good idea to rush with a sniper rifle.

[JonnyBadfinger]

Camping with a Sniper is expected, but with a SMG really?

But i cant say much im guilty of all forms of camping... i like to think of it as "strategic positioning between objectives", hence my decent 2.50+K/D ratio in almost all shooters. My K/D in MW2 at one stage was 22, then i started the knifing lightweight business for a while so it dropped really fast.

[hs123]

the difference is that in real life you'll die once, but when u r getting killed over and over again by camper in a game it is f**kin annoying. camping for a little while is okay but when you stay at one place for five minutes and then move to another that's stupid. but it's fun when another person camps nd u get to kill him over and over

[Anorexorcist]

Oh how many damn times I've been blasted in the back with a shotgun by some pinko camping in the corner of a room, just watching the doorway and pulling the trigger whenever someone comes in. Akimbo shotgun campers who camp in a single area, not just one particular spot, also are a huge noob tactic that really increases the imbalance in MW2's gameplay.

The ridiculous Nuke killstreak is further motivation for camping in MW2. A Nuke can only be obtained by camping or simply being a REAL lucking bastard where the universe is perfectly aligned for you in a match (no one blasting you in the back; not crossing claymores, always getting the first shots in a face-to-face confrontation, not getting killed by aircraft or predator missles; not fighting against a small army of campers, etc.)

General Sniper tactics are finding a secure place to scope and take out unsuspecting enemies at long range. I don't fault them for that.

[Yi-Long]

Someone has to defend the flag. I'm a sniper in Battlefield 1943, and I just make sure I die as little as possible, defend the flag, and take out as many bad guys as I can.

I can't stand it when players take a flag, and immediately rush towards a new flag, getting killed 3 times alond the way, while the flag they captured 5 seconds ago is already been taken again by the enemy(!) If you're getting yourself shot every 15 seconds, you're not doing it right! You're NOT helping the team.

Someone has to be there to make sure the enemy doesn't take the flags we conquered. Someone has to be there to save his teammates from a distance. The best snipes are the shots where you save a teammate, or avenge a teammate.

I LOVE sniping. I hate rushing into the enemy head-on, getting myself shot.

I'm talking about Battlefield btw. Haven't played MW2 and probably never will. I won't support the enemy (Activision) plus I'm not really into the kinda run&gun action that MP provides.

[Red_Orange_Juice]

Campers are annoying but imo it is "legitimate way" of playing. You want to play your way?, choose a game that lets you play in closed groups, if you play on public servers you need to accept the fact, the everyone has the right to play however they want, you like it or not.

I myself love to be in the middle of the fight, shooting, reloading, throwing granades, defending and stuff. Sitting in one place is not fun for me and not worth to pay for the game.

[Raz]

I can't stand campers. I understand if you're sniping - that makes sense. But I think people who abuse the practice should be punished...so I make a point of going after campers and politely knifing them in the back of the head while they're carefully lining up a shot.

The problem with staying in one place: everyone knows where you are. So it's actually good to keep moving.

[Yi-Long]

... In Battlefield 1943, it isn't THAT easy. Especially not if you're playing on an SDTV like I am.
Pretty hard to snipe a running guy in the head from such a distance, plus there's the slow reload after eacht shot, and obviously in close encounters you are pretty much helpless.

But the rush you get from sniping a dude who's on the other side of the map is great.

[evrfighter]

camping works to some degree on the pc. You'll never take the top 3 at the end of a round but you can still have a decent k/d ratio. The reason for this is .4 seconds is all someone needs to get a headshot on you. Campers usually have slow reflexes to begin with so they almost always lose to aggressors who jump&prone corners.

Camping just seems to work on consoles because thumbsticks don't give you pinpoint accuracy. It takes probably over a second to ironsight someone that's camping and corner jumping & aiming isn't really plausible because of the lack of pinpoint precision. It's safe to say there's almost no defense against a skilled player who's camping on a console.

Though this doesn't affect me at all as I use my mouse and keyboard on the 360 and ps3. campers on consoles are twice as slow as pc campers and so I'm able to jump corners and have my crosshair sitting on their head by the time I land (if not I have plenty of time to adjust).

You may think I'm cheating but I just prefer my mouse. Just as the kids on consoles prefer their controller. Someone who's never used a mouse can't just use one and expect to be good. I no longer have the time to try and be as proficient on a controller as I did with the m/k.

[captain-obvious]

i hate campers
if you're a sniper that’s fine i understand

but if your NOT
THEN WHAT THE FU*K ARE YOU DOING IN MY SPAWN POINT ??

this is the only thing i hate in BF:BC2
in conquest mode base/spawn camping is awful
DICE should fix this

on the other hand
if you camp on a wall or a corner the next thing you’ll know is an RPG or a 40MM incoming piercing the wall in to your skull

[AAACE5]

I won't lie, I camp from time to time! I even like when other players camp... Because it gives me the opportunity to drop a javalin right on their head...lol... It never gets old! Especially on afghan when they are on that cliff. Matter of fact on afghan, that guy tsquared had to give people a tip on how to beat me on that corner. Now they have to attack me as a group... No more emergency airdrops:(

@gandalf... The idea behind any military shooter is to treat it realistically... Otherwise, you should just stick with halo! It pissed me off to be on a team with people who have 3 kills and 21 deaths! Those guys should have just stayed with halo or something!

If they didn't want you to camp, they wouldn't have had bushed and stuff to hide in or a croutch or prone ability!

[n4gno]

jonny, ratio means nothing when you are sniper/camper, the most important thing new gamers are forgetting, is : the victory, and only players who are rushing to the objectives are the one who make that possible.

[Rainstorm81]

It dosent take very much skill to sit in a corner in a room and wait for someone to walk by and kil them.

Besides MOST people that camp are very skilled that why they hide, if majority of these camper get into a face to face gunfight they are dead 90% pf the time.

BTW i never camp. A straight Merc

[JonnyBadfinger]

I dont give a rats arse about winning. im more interested in making it so only me and nobody else enjoys the game. For you see i am an arsehole, and always will be... any chance i get to betray someone i will take it, and if i can make the game as miserable as possible for other gamers i will.

As long as i am laughing i dont care about the end result... even if i lose i have a smile on my face, and just because the other team wins i know for a fact that they are pissed by the way what has just happened.

[Rainstorm81]

if people were more worried about being good in a competitive online game and having fun, instead of just trying to piss people off......Online gaming quality would increase 10 fold.

You and people like you are the reason MW2 sells so much.

[jjohan35]

The game has a lot of problems but there's a solution to most of them. The worst problem that renders the game completely broken, however, is the respawning system. It is absolutely absurd to have the person you just killed get respawned behind you.

[captain-obvious]

by the way I’m a complete opposite of a camper
when I play I’m completely all over the map

if there is a sniper I got no problem going all the way to the other end of the map just to kill him even if I ran the whole distance
just to knife his ass

if there is a tank in the wide open or anywhere
I’ll be the mofo running my ass towards it with C4s in my hand
if a we start to lose a base or even lost one, I’m the first one to be there

if there is a Helicopter in the sky I’ll be shooting 100's of rockets on the thing tell it drops

If you don’t believe me I’m ready to show my BF:BC2 stat right here right now

i mean I’m all over the f*cking map and i think thats how everyone should play

[ThanatosDMC]

Nothing wrong with camping. That's what grenades and smokes are for... besides it's tactics.

[xc7x]

anyways if anyone complains about campers need to be shot,because your own skills should prevent being killed over and over by campers. do like i do,target campers and you won't have a problem,ah or you could just keep crying as usual :-P

[raztad]

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[JonnyBigBoss]

My suggestion is to just stop playing. The camping was so prevalent I couldn't stand it anymore. I'm into BFBC2 now.

[el_nene_lindo]

this article is useless we all no campers are campers and nobody is changing the way they play imcluding me i like to camp in mw2 not waiting for someone in a corner but kill them in a distance

[The Time Reaper]

When you're in an objective game, and your entire team is composed of "snipers" who sit on their ass... well, the game is just BORING.

[ThanatosDMC]

I completely agree with you! MAG is right now getting a lot of new players that have been brought up by camping games that they're not doing their job to grab objectives especially in Sabotage games. They camp around an objective and never rushing it. So it's double the job for me and my squad/clan...

[CountDracula]

I AM ONE!

(+1 if you're one too!)

[mcnablejr]

camper.

[Clarence Callahan]

@jlg
u fail

[Tristanh82]

You can hate them but the fact is camping is just another form of attack. If there are campers everywhere change your strategery, theres no right way to play the game its not cheating and yeah it can get annoying so stop running around like a numb nut and use your brain,adapt to your surroundings. the guy up the top said its not real life thou its a game, yes that is true but its based on real life and i like many prefer not to get killed by running down a street in plain sight and get killed 20 times. So stop winging and fight back. And reaper its not boring when u come up behind 3 snipers who think there smart buy sitting together on one side of the map and i stab the frak out of them all.

[Revvin]

MW2 is broken anyway why should anyone care how its played? Objective based rounds require setting up perimeters, guarding area's but when the game allows the pathetic perk mixes that make players almost impossible to hit and yet deadly with dual wield shotguns then of course its going to affect the way people play the game. Leave the weapons in the game but take the perks out and you'd have a very good shooter but as it stands right now its a joke. They could fix it, make a new game mod with no perks allowed even if it was just a team deathmatch mode I imagine it would become very popular with most players apart from the 10 yr olds.

[GodGinrai]

akembo shot guns that dont require you to even aim to make a kill,marathon,over powered smg`s that feel too sensitive when you ADS..oh and thermal scopes that make camping snipers jobs even easier. at least in cod4 they had to stick their heads out now they can just sit inside a bush an wait for a white blob to appear in there scope..pathetic.throw in a heart beat sensor and IW might as well just be holding our camping freinds hands...why not just give a perk that aims and shoots for them while your at it iw?!

these things only threw cod`s core mechanics out of balance and out the window. in no way have any of the things above made mw2 a better game. and dont get me started on the fact that you cant turn of that stupid auto aim.

The extra objects/obstacles on the maps made me realise how cluncky cods controls are too. some times my character draws to a halt...and i realise my charcter cant simply walk over a 1 ft high object..he has to vault it or walk around it. try move quickly in and out of doors and half the time your charcter just runs in the wall surrounding the door.MW2 made me realise how dated cod feels these days too.

[Anon7349]

When you play one of the worst FPS video games ever created.

[CaulkSlap]

Yeah and IRL there's no respawns either. The game isn't even close to reality and neither should be the way you play. The most fun games are when everyone is running around gunning and gaining angles on eachother. A battle of shooting and movement skill. Not watching a hallway with a sniper rifle or hiding around a corner. Campers are just lame.

[chickenlegs9]

the trouble with mw2 is the sniper rifles are far to easy to get kills with...noob easy infact.compared to the sniper rifles on bfbc2 where the bullets actually drop over distance,also the fact that if you are getting shot by a sniper(repeatedly) you can tag them for all the team to see.not sure why mw2 did not include such a feature?all said and done its not camping thats put mw2 on the shelf to gather dust for me,but the total lack of working as a team,hardcore team deathmatch,for example,start the game and almost immediately the entire team is all over the map,greedy players and very little to encourage players to play as a team really show this games short comings...wanna lone wolf experience,then mw2's the one for you,but want an online team based game???battlefield wee's all over cod from a great height.

[GeoScore]

I'm sick of people whining about campers - its necessary from a tactical standpoint. To me, the biggest thing that annoys me are the morons that yell "you fcking camper" when they get shot - even if you weren't in fact camping at the time. People just need to get over it, and stop using it as an excuse as to why someone else has more kills than you..

[claterz]

The only reason people camp in mw2 is because the game itself. No one ever camps in CoD4 because the game is actualy enjoyable and you don't need to camp to get kills.

[DelbertGrady]

M-16A2 with Magnum ammunition in BFBC2 takes care of snipers. I prefer without scope.

[captain-obvious]

no no no no

what i do is sneak up on him
knife his ass and hand it to him
and then do a little jumping dance after that so he can see that im happy

[rakunado]

Defibrillator them!

I didn't even know it was possible until one time i ran at a guy and accidentally pulled out my defib by accident and i killed him wif it. :O

[n4gno]

Because of call of noobies, they are producing game for mass market, so sniping is easy (even in bfbc2, you can reload to fast for that kind of action), guns are "moving" when a guy shot you, you can hide in the wood, etc so unskilled people can enjoy game too (in killzone, quake, unreal, etc it's not possible, skilled people, allways win)

[TheBand1t]

You can also make holes in fences with the defib.

[ThanatosDMC]

I'm surprised y'all dont use the drill.

[djfullshred]

It sure is a boring way to play a video game imo.

[GodGinrai]

when the majority of your team and the other team are camping with snipers on a map like derail, the game goes into a sort of stalemate.i remember playing on the map once and going 3-0...i spent 10 minute searching around for 3 kills! wtf!? i mostly play halo for my mp kicks now any ways followed by R2 and bfbc2.

[thief]

If you hate campers, play KZ2 or Bad Company 2 or MAG
MW2 rewards campers. Some prefer to play that way. Personally, after the intense squad-based multiplayer of KZ2 and then MAG, where tactics and teamplay matter more, CoD seems so weak and unsatisfying

[mcnablejr]

This is a game, not real life.

The only reason campers have become such a problem is because they are so damn annoying. When i have just been run and gun sniping (NO you dont have to camp while you snipe.) and i get killed by someone randomly spraying an assault rifle at me while they are sat down an alleyway, with no other access point with only their head poking over the top , Then i become frustrated.

and by giving campers HARRIER JETS(WTF?) and CHOPPER GUNNER(OMFGSRSLYWTF!!!) we have a game broken by campers. as well as the players who sit around the first 2 mins, until they get harriers and thing they are great because they won by camping and ai.

The only reason i can see people would camp are one of three reasons.
1)They are at a 22 killstreak (after running about) and want a nuke.
2) they need a drink/food/rest/toilet (or generally not playing)
3) they have no thumbs.

Otherwise they are just looking for cheap kills, whilst people with some kind of reaction to movement strolls about actually playing well in the game

CAMPERS ARE IDIOTS. period

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Camping in MAG is so easy. People running around all over the place. Just grab a sniper and rack up the easy kills.

Halo on the other hand has zero camping. The shields prevents camping. Unless you get taken out by a sniper head shot but at least that takes skill unlike games like COD or MAG.

[mcnablejr]

true.

[thief]

ha ha - thanks for the comedy! Apart from the fact that you so obviously have not played MAG, the fact that you talk about camping in the same sentence as MAG tells so much about yourself
1) You cant even comprehend what the gameplay in tactical shooters in MAG is like (hint: you dont go running around doing "pew pew" spraying coloured bolts from orange guns wearing a purple suit)
2) If you ever landed up in MAG or Killzone 2 you would get the biggest a**-kicking of your life - because Halo/CoD fans such as you would be totally outclassed in any shooter that required even the slightest bit of intelligence and teamwork

And stop boring us with the Halo love - its a generic, boring, overrated 640p shooter with gameplay mechanics that were revolutionary in 2001 but got old and obsolete years ago. Sure, lots of people play Halo, which just shows its the Mario Kart of shooters.

[mcnablejr]

i have played mag.

halo is right.

[DelbertGrady]

The guns in MAG sound like "pew pew" though. Some of the worst gun sounds I've ever encountered. BF:BC2 really set a new standard in that category.

[aaronisbla]

i happen to love MAG but Soda is pretty spot on, the guns sound weak as hell on MAG. i was spoiled by the gun sounds on the first BFBC, but BFBC2 spoiled me even moreso.

[TheBand1t]

I don't camp. I defend.

(Talking about Battlefield)

[glennc]

bc2 has taken care of campers. destruction 2.0 ensures campers stay on the move. that is why campers suck in MW2, the game is not realistic enough to balance out campers. blame the game not the legit players

[Dnied]

I thought the marking of enemies was more of an anti-camper feature than destruction 2.0 :S

[DarkEdson]

Truth of the matter is camping is a legit strategy, those of you who complain and call them annoying are just to stupid to figure out a way to beat them. if i get killed one time by a camper or sniper my first thought is i got to find them and kill them but i also let my team know where he is. lets see a camper drop 7-8 people baring down on them. In real life snipers are dangerous and they can suck the life out of any army, in the soviet days the red army used to have standing orders that if a sniper was found that all units clear the area and they would motar barrage an entire square mile to get one sniper. That right there tells you how snipers can change the battlefield. And for those of you who are annoyed by campers and snipers, that is the point, the sniper or camper is getting inside your head, you are so annoyed that you stop thinking making you easier to kill. you wanna live and win in fps's play like your life depends on it.

[Darkfiber]

The only people who hate campers are idiots who are dumb enough to continually get killed by one, and people who just suck. If anything campers are easier to kill since they are always in the same place.

[OSIRUSSS]

There is very little camping in Warhawk. I mean you can try but sooner or later a tow will be fired on your ass.

[ThanatosDMC]

HAHAHAHA! So true! People get pissed then grab a warhawk and find a TOW missile. Most of the time though they fly right at you before shooting... you know, they like the feeling that they know that you know that you're doomed and they want to rub it on your face... if that made sense.

[rezzah]

Dont need to read much to understand that this is pretty stupid, comparing a game to reality is dumb. Also camping in games can have their benefits however they can ruin everything. If you get kills only by camping you trully have no skill. But if you can get in the fight and be good enough to detroy people in the battle feild, that takes skill. Camping constantly is bad, but not relying on it is good.

[ShadowJetX]

I've played Modern Warfare 2, 5 times at the very least, and 2 outta those times I played online. First game I got a 7 kill streak like nothing. Call of Duty is one of the easiest games of all time, no kidding. I have a harder time getting a 5 kill streak in MGO.

Camping or not, it's easy to be good at the Modern Warfare games.

[Stretchystrong]

The whole system of modern warfare 2 is built around rewarding campers, this article is made by a kid defending camping because he doesn't have the coordination to run and gun. MW2 would be a whole different game without kill streaks. People would actually have to use strategy and map movement as a team.

At the people who say the halo kids would get dumped on in MAG, the pros make more money in halo and use more teamwork than MAG will ever have. That game will be forgotten after a few more months.

[HeadShot]

No, it's a good idea to spawn [email protected]#% the other team and rack up some kills :D

[tommy-cronin]

Everyone is a camper at heart, no one can say they never done it before, it's just playing a game in different ways, just a game at the end of the day.

[Commodore]

The guy who wrote it is a tard.

Snipers are allowed to camp, atleast ones that don't carry dual shotguns or SMG's because a sniper doesn't carry those IN BATTLEFIELD SITUATIONS.
When I snipe I move around because it's too boring.

IN A BATTLEFIELD SITUATION I could call in an air strike and level the entire building that the people are camping in without getting a required amount of kills.

[Deios]

I say, play the game the way you want to play it.