In the latest episode of his new show on Gametrailers, Pach-Attack!, industry analyst Michael Pachter said that Xbox Live may be due for a price increase sometime between now and this time next year.
you already said it would go up too 100 a year.so wtf?
why would they do that, people complain at 50, come on. Might i not remind every 360 owner there is a free online everywhere else?!
Didn't he say it would increase ages ago?
Yes but he has Crystal Ball 3.0 now, its much more efficient at predicting the future.
Pachter lives in a careful world of "could have", "maybes", and "probables". He's like those psychics that exploit you for money when you are grieving over a missing child. None of what he says seems to have any foundation on reasoning or evidence. "He believes that Sony will begin charging users for Playstation Network soon." Sony themselves practically announced a Premium service. MS has the ability to charge more for LIVE because they know people will still pay for it. Stupid move IMO because MS could easily reduce costs which would make PSN look worse. Yet, PSN is the one set to offer a Premium service while maintaining free online which easily beats what MS has going right now. There is apparently going to be more added to LIVE since XBOX 1 services ended but LIVE is not worth $50. All I seem to use is cross game chat occasionally. They are lucky they have Halo, I find no real strong reason to support the 360 otherwise.
lol pacher runnin out of news
that means x box live may be free soon...
He just makes educated guesses and the worst part is most of them aren't too educated! I can't remember who said it, but for me, I like using netflix and last fm on my 360. Yeah I could go to my computer, but I spend so much time playing the 360 that I figure why bother moving over to a different product! People were paying for xbl even before they had all the extras. They just payed to play online. So I don't think much will change either way. If they do raise the price, they might lose some customers, but if they add in more features they could gain new ones! More importantly, they won't raise the price when there are already paid subscriptions. It would be unfair. If they were to raise prices, look for it to happen next gen!
Same old shyt different day. Guess he got tired of being wrong and had to rehash old predictions.
If MS offers internet tv packages then yes I can see them charging more expensive prices.
He keeps saying this. What's his deal? Does he want the price to increase? He called this about six months ago and it never happened. Now he's doing it again? Patcher, when you predict something and you're wrong you don't keep making that prediction in the hopes that it comes true (see Wii HD will be available in the holiday of 09).
me no pay
If true, the blind will continue to buy live.
Some (most) people don't have a problem paying for a premium service.
PC only gamers mind paying for it, PS3 only gamers mind paying for it, Wii only gamers mind paying for it. It looks to me that the "some (most)" people who dont have a problem paying for it are actually the minority, a minority who are happy to pay for what should be free.
Are you jealous or what? And your comment is rehtorical. The key word being only. That would be like me saying 360 only gamers mind buying another controller cause the first one didnt have feedback or buying HD cables or buying a mic or buying something to charge your controller being that you can't play and charge at the same time unless you sit right next to your PS3. See how easy that work's.
Y'all are pathetic for defending that you're okay with paying for live. We should always want things to be cheaper or free. What you should pay for is games and accessories. The operating cost of xbl doesn't cost that much and we know that because PSN is free.
Spock, im sure that comment sounded really good in your head but the way you have written it makes no sense at all. Its also completely out of context since the topic for discussion is xbox live. Think before you rant, dummy.
I don't think anybody is defending the price of Live. What people are saying is they have no problems with paying for the service and they find value in the yearly fee. If you don't want to pay for it then fine just that gives you no right to tell people whats right for them. Sony and Nintendo have never been about online which is why to me they both seem lost while MS making a killing. They can sit here and pretend to be the good guys all they want but PS3 and Wii are both overpriced and simply taking your money in a different way.
XBOX Live is well worth the money. For less than the price of a greasy ass meal from Mcdonald's once a month, I get the BEST online service out there at the moment. To me that is a steal, and that is twelve less disgusting meals a year put into your body. With XBOX live I get: -An awesome community of people that I can easily get a group of people together to play nearly any game at any time. On the PSN, it is literally a ghost town in many games. Try to play an Unreal Tournament 3 match on the PSN and it will take you hours to find a match if you even find one at all. On the 360, a minute or two. -Really fast updating and downloading. -Instantly hop into other games with my friends who are in my party (awesome feature of party chat) instead of text messaging on the PS3 and waiting for a response. On the 360 I say hey wanna play some Battlefield? I boot it up and hit one button and everyone in my party just pops up in just a couple of minutes. On the PS3, I have to text message every single person to start a damn match and it takes forever. This is why some of my friends who own both systems, will leave party chat on on the 360 whilst playing online on the PS3, (yes it is that good). -Lets say I join a game that I need to have a certain map pack. On the 360, I can download and install in one fell swoop and play the game instantly. On the PS3 you have to go to the PSN Store wait for ages for it to download and then install it, then boot up the game and finally play the game. There is a reason PSN is FREE and there are reasons why XBOX Live is well worth a couple bucks a month. Some people are friggin ridiculous. I have way more fun on XBOX than I can for any other experience I could possibly have for under 5 bucks a month.
This is such a tired topic. XBL is eaily worth my $4.00 less a month. Cross game chat, XBL partys, Twitter, Last.Fm, Facebook, Demos @ 10:1 vs. PSN, exclusive Betas, Netflix (no disc required!), ect. EASILY worth it just for the demos alone + cross game chat + XBL partys. Pretty soon you will have to PAY FOR PSN to get sevices that XBL has offered for a LONG time, & you still won't get all the content XBL offers: PSN PREMIUM: -Access to Beta Games -Cross-game Voice Chat Access -Online Music Service -Online Music Video Service -Automatic Downloads and Updates -Facebook Connectivity -Netflix Access Without Disc
@lowcarb Your saying that the Wii and PS3 are overpriced?? The Wii is cheaper then the xbox, and the PS3 is the same price but has a bluray player as well as other features built in that you have to pay for with an xbox, plus the online is free, where do you justify your saying that they are overpriced?
The Wii is a repackaged gamecube and Ps3 forces you to buy bluray, wifi and a headset. I don't need any of that stuff to enjoy gaming with 360.
Netflix goes for $9 a month which comes out to about $108 a year. Maybe they think people won't notice. I DARE them to make that move.
And why would he be in an articvle here ? He is a prophet or something ? Seems like a stipid "i know everything, but frankly i am just guessing BS" kind of guy
so I have never been a pachter basher per say and I also have never had too much of an issue with xbox live prices but this really makes me rethink this guys credibility. question 1 is "WHY?" second thing is it really does not makes sense for xbox to raise the price. people already [email protected]!tch and moan about the live price and M$ has it at a legit price right now(come on roughly $4 a month, cry me a river), but raise it and I think it will hurt them more than it will gain.
This is just some random guy that woke up one day and decided to share his bad predictions with everybody. He's never right, he acts like he plays games but says the most ignorant things all the time which has me questioning if he's ever even played a video game before. He calls his viewers "babies" I mean what the hell is with that? He just sucks. Not to mention it takes him the length of a 5 minute video to answer a question any normal person could answer in 30 seconds.
I just renewed my Gold Subscription 2 months ago for $35.00. Got it on sale from Walmart. That came out to like $3.00 per months. Common, a McDonald happy meal cost more than that. Even when it is at full price at $50.00 per month, it is still just a little over $4.00 per month. It is a great service to those that have a X360. Been a member for 3 years now, no complaint. PSN is also a very good service but It is not as Live, no pun intended, as Xbox Live, IMO.
the only thing is its dumb to compare PSN and XBL, when a free service is comparable to a pay service something is wrong. Besides 50 bucks isnt alot of money but to some thats one extra game they are missing out on a year to others water under the bridge. PS No one goes to mickey D's and says here's 50 bucks i want a happy meal every month for a year. j/k
your right no one goes to mcD's and says that but honestly I guarantee you over 60% of people that complain about how much live cost spend easily over that much a year on fast food or some other non necessary item. I know your not bashing and neither am I but come on man just because you pay up front for it doesnt change the fact that it comes down to that much a month. If you dont want to pay that much up front pay $20 for 3 months 4 times a year and lose out on $30 bucks. your choice, your money, your problem your paying more than $4 and some change. stop b*tching people it is a good service, you get DLC before psn, party chat, cross game invites, way more advanced friends list, easier to navigate marketplace menus, everything is linked to your gamertag and there is little to no hassle doing anything on live. uh yeah hard decision to make i guess.
who pays this guy, he just comes out with a load of random nonsense.
Wedbush Morgan Securities Inc. does.
He is just going to say this every year??? this man is a douch
a lot of people are so stupid and is able to help themselves but because of sheer ignorance they dont. people shouldn't condone a company to charge for playing online games in the first place no matter what the cost is. i know my arguments will fall a lot on deaf ears but it's mostly going to be the ignorant people who are stupid to not want a change even if it benefits them. to each his own, we are all individuals but if people literally look and analyse microsoft 's xbox 360s business strategy then theyll see that they are wasting money if they buy their products. people ignore buying batteries constantly or replacing the rechargable battery packs that go bad sometimes. people ignore that they have to replace headsets a few times. people ignore that they have to replace a scratched disc that the xbox 360 cant read on some occasions. some people ignore that they are paying a lot of money for a wireless adaptor. some people think its ok to send your xbox 360 off for repairs multple times. the things that i'm mostly shocked about though are the ones that keep replacing their consoles, pay for xbl and say they'd rather that and also keep lying to themselves about the exclusive games looking better than the ps3 exclusives when they clearly dont. the ps3 doesn't show that its the most powerful console because of its graphics , you can see it in the number of AI it could handle on screen, the animations of a lot of things, the realistic physics or physics in general , the sheer scope of certain highly detailed levels and other things. i have a xbox 360 and ive had one since its launch and i can logically say that its service and games are below sony's ps3 standard. playing games online is about playing with others online with the experience as smooth as possible so lag is a deal breaker and ps3 provides the best service with minimal to no lag on exclusives. xbox 360 has to use multple discs on alot of games while the ps3 doesn't . the ps3 has a rechargable controller while the xboxes uses battery packs for the wireless ones. the xbox 360s exclusives are below ps3s exclusives on a technological level. killzone 2, lair, mgs4 , uncharted 2, resistance 2, motorstorm 2, ratchet acit, heavy rain, gt 5 pro, infamous , M.A.G, G.O.W 3 and some others exclusive to the ps3 are sporting graphics , scope, ai , animations and other technological attributes that have never been done on any other consoles. to each his own but id rather have and support the best. its a bit funny that people are calling patcher an idiot for talking about xbl and a possible price jump but are ignoring the point that paying for it in the first place is idiotic.
if you dont mind paying for Live..thats fine...but openly defending it..is just silly.... I am a Gold Charter Member of Live and dislike paying for it... but I would never try to defend paying for it...whats even more silly is breaking down its cost to a monthly basis, why not go the other way and see how its costing you over 5 years... just dont defend the cost of live..its like defending paying for something that is free elsewhere
Name something that costs 50 dollars a year (or less)and provides me more enjoyment (365 days worth) than XBOX Live. I can't think of anything better to spend such a measly amount of money on. A game wouldn't count in my book, as you are limited to the content of that game. XBOX Live provides way more than a single game could.
I don't even pay for xbl anymore and I love seeing the uneducated scream about 50 bucks for xbl. a 12 month sub for xbl is 39.99 and that usually includes a extra month so 13 months total. Proof: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-... Now is it worth that 39.99? Not to me anymore since majority of my friends have moved on to steam and psn, but to some it's a great value. Now ask yourself this question. Who's the bigger fool? The person paying for xbl who has NO problem with it? Or the person constantly trying to get him to stop?
XBL is so cool! It should cost like two times more at least for all its coolness and awesome features! ))) .
Paying for online is stupid get a ps3 free online more money in your pocket. 50$ is money you can spend on your girl your silbling when you go out to chill you get the picture.
but a typical night on the town for me here in Florida is way more than 50 bucks. A dinner and a Movie with just my girlfriend and I is way more than 50 bucks and that is at a place like Carraba's then hitting the movie theater up afterwards. In fact, if I manage to only spend 50 bucks, that was one cheap date. I could see someone whining about XBOX Live if they are living off an allowance or nothing at all. As an adult, with a job, even working at Mcdonald's part time, you could easily fit in XBOX Live within a years worth of work.
not the first sign of inflation in the good ol u.s of a. just a sign of whats in store for us
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