Explicit Gamer, "It's no secret that things are falling apart within the forces behind some of the most popular Call of Duty games, insiders seem all too aware."
I rather blame both
I don't really think that's fair...Infinity Ward didn't fire their own co-founders. activision is getting exactly what it deserves....jerkoffs
Now if everyone would kindly revert their attention to Respawn Entertainment. Really Activision there just isn't a word to describe how stupid you are
lets jus hope a phonix rises in its ases eh
There are things you can blame both parties for. Activision can be blamed for milking the Call of Duty franchise like Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero. Along with charging ridiculously high prices for a Map Pack and all while not honoring the agreement they made with Infinity Ward, which was the Royalties they owed to the core members. Basically telling an Artist to keep making work when your not even cutting them in on the profit they know they have rightfully earned. Infinity Ward put out a glitchy mess of a game, with a subpar storyline and improved little to nothing on the overall graphics of the first. They only improved the fun of Multiplayer which was the major selling point of the 1st game but never even bother to Beta test it for errors. It rode heavily on the success of the first and got a clean pass by many who just didn't care about its faults. However this whole thing is Activision's fault no doubt. We won't see the impact of this until Modern Warfare 3 in terms of the game development side of things but we already are seeing the impact on the moral of the industry. I find it incredibly weird that they loosely talked about this happening in GameTrailers Bonus Round before it actually happened. Although the guy who brought it up suggested they wouldn't be able to find a new job. Looks like he was wrong.
the company that has done nothing but churn out the same rehashed game over and over again is dead? darn...what ever will people do if they can't continue to support the development of redundant, boring, formulaic shooters?
@1.4: Its not Infinity Ward that gives the harsh deadlines for the game, its Activision, Infinity Ward only had so much time to make the game and Activision didn't even give them enough time to beta test the game, so all the glitches and such were left in it. So it's not IW fault, it all leads to Acti-Hell.
I don't think Activision became among the biggest publishers by being dumb. If you look at what Activision offered the two, full control over all future CoD games after WWII then that is immense power. Surely Activision knows that, it can be used as a pawn in negotation against them so I'm inclined to believe that West and Zampella enjoyed quite a bit of privilege. Furthermore, this is not the first time West and Zampella have pulled something similar. Remember 2015, Inc.... I have to say it goes both ways and blame the both.
Activision has a history of losing fights when they attempt to bully someone. They tried with Id and Carmack blew his top. He seems calm most of the time but he doesn't take crap off of anyone. He told Activision to go screw themselves and he walked. Hollenshead didn't blink once. Now Id is in bed with Bethesda.
They are actually really good at making video games. Aside from the multiplayer mess call of duty 4 and MW2 are awesome games
SELL SELL SELL!!!!
Silly Activision. You killed the golden goose!
Who's going to make overhyped glitchy games now?
It seems to me that Activision is stalling MW3, not Zempella and West. If they would have just paid the bonuses, than this wouldn't have happened. Oh well, its Activisions loss and EA victory.
I bet the bonuses on a game like MW2 could have amounted to quite a bit of cash. We may not know the whole story but its looking that Activision's choice to strong-arm infinity ward is backfiring big time.
Theres a reason I started boycotting Activision a looong time ago. Everyone told me I was an idiot but look now. Theyre getting whats coming to them. Good job Bobby Kotick!
A long time ago means last month? Nah I kid, I kid..lol But really, this could be consider as one of the stupidest move Activision made.
Same here, Kotick is a massive douchebag. F you Activision.
Could we see a buyout somewhere down the ....................wait. Forgot about Blizzard and World of Warcraft, LOL.
That mergers gonna bite them in the butt
I still think that merge was the stupid move Blizzard could have ever done.
i agree with colombo while i rather dislike blizzard i find their games rather dull but i know how successful they are and they had no where to go but up WITH or WITHOUT activision btw
Sad thing is, MW3 will still sell like mad. The mass market does not watch who makes the games just care about the game itself. So Activision still gets away and its the IW guys who end up really getting screwed.
While I agree, I think the ones that got the shorest end of this stick is the IW staff that isn't able to make the move to respawn. Respawn has a VERY talented team backing them, they own the rights to their games, and they will come up with something better than Call of Duty. Afterall, they made Call of Duty...they can make something better and get us away from that god forsaken franchise.
Ya it sucks no matter how you look at it. It will take them 2-3 years to get a game out anyway, if not longer. So it will be a long time till we see what they can do. I hope this event makes people much more aware its the people in the studio that make the game great, not the studio's name.
Random thing, I just noticed the "Respawn" Entertainment is a slap in the face to Activision. Like they killed IW and they respawned, kind of funny when you think about it.
If Microsoft/Sony paid these guys to be 1st party devs? Yeah, it probably would.
active vision shame on you, all that money iw made for you!!!!!!!!!
How sweet would it be if West and Zampella won the trial with the rights to the Modern Warfare franchise, Infinity Ward disbanded, and then proceded to join Respawn Entertainment and MW3 is published by EA. That would be ultimate Karma.
I agree that both partie's are to blame. Infinity Ward keeps milking the crap out of Call of Duty and the game gets worse and worse. Activision needs to get what is coming to them. they have been ruining gaming for years and the other problem is that gamers keep supporting them by buying their crap ass games. one day, we will see Activision fall.
I said this in an earlier article today: Activision is weak, their time for honoring themselves will soon be at an end, END of story
This is what happenes when you work with Activision they get what they want and they screw you. My advice Treyarch keep your guard up you could be next.
Obviously there is no one else to blame except for Activision themselves.
for the people who are saying MW3 is gonna sell, don't be so fast. As much as the big ceo's aka bobby "the rat" kotick think's we are mindless sheep public perception can make or break anyone. Just like our most favorite celebs can become pariah's so can our favorite games. Once a friend tells a friend who tells a friend who tells a casual so on and so forth word of mouth will hurt acti and MW2 franchise even more so than I think they imagine. perfect example the dreamcast. as much of a sega fanboy I am I know sega committed suicide just as much as sony and nintendo killed them. public perception due to the sega cd, 32x,and quick cycle of the saturn hurt sega in the public's eye. this issue behind the scenes CAN hurt acti
I couldn't care less, COD is a crappy game anyways, Treyarch makes the better games honestly. They just need to do something other than WW2 that's why I'm happy there next one will be Vietnam/Cold War era. MW2 is such a mess online from bull crap weapon damages, to horrible glitches, to some of the cheapest kills known to man, etc. I could go on and on but I'll save us some time.
1) Are looking to capitalize on the situation, at least in the short term (i.e., promotions and raises) 2) Are disgruntled workers who are enjoying all the drama and turmoil. 3) Are not good enough to get a job elsewhere.
4) dont want to risk being unemployed
...they can't get a job elsewhere.
I'd care more about Infinity Ward if they didn't backstab the PC Fanbase like they did and pretend that we're a bunch of idiots who couldn't handle a mouse to save our lives.
It seems to be Activision's fault right now. I'm basically agreeing with rezzah, I'm giving Infinity Ward the best of luck. I'm just hoping Infinity Ward survives, because I want to see a rivalry between Infinity Ward and Respawn in order to push both companies to create better games (just make sure that rappers don't get involved).
while the "insider" might say they still have talent, that goes without saying. the problem is that every company SOME talent, infinity ward had A LOT and now doesnt no matter what, they arent going to make a better game. period.
What the hell are you talking about? I would not say they have tons of talent. Most of you are too stupid to see the lack of quality in those games. Don't let your enjoyment of a game confuse you about the facts. This departure is a god send. I want companies to push the limits because we're not going to live forever. You morons support this mediocre crap like it's the greatest thing ever and don't realize what it does to the industry as a whole. I do realize the few benefits so spare me your bullsh!t. Burn in hell Infinity Ward! I wish you all of satan's worst.
I wonder if any middle/senior management staff at activision will get sacked over this.. I mean say what you want but it's clearly obvious sometime somewhere that activison annoyed IW employees be it bonuses or uncompromising development pressure.. I hope sometime the lid will get fully blown over this and all the facts come out.
It should make an interesting read when west and zampella finally spill the beans.I have no doubt there is alot we dont know about this whole saga and im sure it wont paint a pretty picture for activision...and to lose them to EA of all publishers!? how stupid can activision seriously be?
To be honest I blame the human resource officers,managers and industrial phycologist of Activision.I don't understand why some gamers actually want to see Activision fall because on whole it would be bad for the game industry.Would someone please provide me with a link to the conflict between Id software and activision.I believe that this is a lesson to not only activision but to all publisher in the industry to take care of there developers,1stparty,2ndparty and 3rd party.What the Infinity ward founders should have done is buy themself out of being owned like bungie did to M$ to become independent,but who knows?,maybe that's why the founders wanted the there plus 36$million bonus;to do just that.All I know is that up there from the middle to top line managers in activision,someone has got to had being fired.Stocks are likely to drop for Acti but I'm all honesty my fellow gamers I wish I was a fly in the IW, Activision and Respawn offices to know the happenings.If you were offered a large some of money to not leave IW and benifit from all this choas ie promotions ect would you not stay?You are there to make money after all.Credientials follow after you have have food on the table.Look it up.Maslow hieracy of needs.After the trial with the founders of IW and Activision the details to this whole story will spill out I promise that.
is largely dismissed because...it not necessarily hierarchical. Needs can come in any order. Social needs may valued higher than money, for example, and people often look to accommodate multiple needs at the same time. Maslow's like Freud, good pop psychology to get across simple concepts. But it doesn't really the reality of the situation justice.
then kidnap him, and make him play every activision published game since 2009 and wait until he kills himself.
Paballo how can you not want activision to fail? As a gamer I find it very disheartening to see what they are trying to do to my beloved hobby.. Look how many plastic crap they have out or released last year... by 2012 going into your local game shop you'd be thinking you just entered toys r us. If activision failed (never will happen) then that would just be good for us gamers as it would free up some of their creative talent on their payroll (if they still have any of that left).
Sometimes a company becomes a habitual line stepper with their employees and it looks like Activision stepped over (on) one too many.
It is true that their studio is dead but everyone from IW is moving to EA along with those 2 heads that got fired. They will still most likely produce great games again, but in their EA studio. MW2 did suck. It was a glitch fest. I don't really care if IW comes back.
modern warfare 2, even though i enjoyed it, started sucking major when people took advantages of the glitches and hacks... im looking forward to COD7 and will still buy it... but in this case, I blame the Activision sobs.
could they have came up with a better name? thats what i like to see. Fight the man guys, fight the man. COD:MW2 sold altogether too well for the creators to be getting skimped at all. hell, everyone should have been getting huge bonuses. lets do a little math... @ last check, CODMW2 had sold 30 Million copies. 30,000,000 multiplied by $60 equals $1,800,000,000. so activition made almost 2 billion dollars from the game and couldn't satisfy a team of one hundred people financially. Fight the man.
They're all getting what they deserved. I'm glad I never purchased MW2, hell I haven't even played the game!
They just changed their studio name and joined EA. Eventually, the majority of the team will all be at Respawn Entertainment.
You can blame Activision all you want but they had every right to fire those two leads and withold the extra cash. Activision is the sole owner of Call of Duty, not IW and they can do whatever they want with it even if they run it into the ground (which they wont, people will still buy Treyarch's CoDs by the millions for years and years to come). IW has no right to claim extra cash just because the game sold so absurdly well, they were paid when they started the project. Developers are payed to make the game, nothing more. They are merely contractors who have been hired to build a game with the name Call of Duty attached to it. IW's ideas are owned by Activision, and although they have freedom to design the game as they see fit because they're the experts, ultimately their product has nothing to do with them.
joining EA really isnt gonna help their case since they were accused of working for EA secretly in the first place! bad move on Vince and Jasons part Lol.. I choose to blame infinity ward tbh since i do not like that developer and never will ^^ At least activision have published some good games :D
N4G doesn't care about IW, they trash their games all the time
Its like from Tony Yayo song - Mo money,Mo problems. Where are /big/ money,there are big problems.Its shame how money can turn over good employment.Treyarch is good studio,but really Activision thinks that they can be as good as IW was?Yep,COD5 had good sales/reviews/ but look at the other titles from them without "Call of Duty" title on the front side of cover,they didnt have good sales and reviews.So its on me,you gamers to be judge.Me?I will not be missing Call of Duty games/i mean real COD from IW/,but im 100% sure that there will be milions of fans who will be missng this franchise.And do you what is Actvison director thinking about whole situation-"What will I buy next,Ferrari or Porsche?".
Too bad your magical walnuts don't extend to magical brain cells.. n how do you think these publishers hire contractors? By giving them incentives! From the sounds of it.. activision promised them bonuses depending on how well mw2 does.. sort of like commission if you will.. now activision refuse to pay them said bonuses because apparently IW owners were in talks with EA about forming another studio. If you read between the lines of this lawsuit on both ends it's fairly obvious activision owe them money whether or not they talked to EA beforehand, contract is a contract.
ROYALTIES!! yes, just like a singer makes "$$" per album sold, some developers are entitled to similar merits. i mean even if the rate was only 20 cent per copy, theyre entitled to 6 million dollars..(granting the game moved 30 mill. units). activision is behaving like one greedy, greedy publisher.
Blame Activision? Blame Modern Warfare 2! That's what happens when you make such a broken game. Just like what happened to FASA after Shadowrun.
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