PS3 won't get 3D Blu-ray support this summer

Sony has announced that its 3D firmware update which is being piped to its latest range of Blu-ray players and the PlayStation 3 will not make the PS3 compatible with upcoming 3D Blu-rays.

Instead, the update will ready the console for 3D games, of which there will be four in June.

The four titles coming out in a 3D flavour are: Wipeout HD, Motorstorm Pacific Rift, PAIN and Super Stardust HD.

The PlayStation 3 will eventually get 3D Blu-ray compatibility but this is to come in the form of another firmware update later in the year.

[spongeboob]

That is fine with me since i don't plan on getting a 3D TV until the prices come down and more media is available so probably a couple years.

[BeaArthur]

Yeah really, there is currently 1 3D movie available. Don't care.

[fr0sty]

This news is as old as CES... geez you guys are LATE to the party!

[2Spock]

Bought a Samsung LCD about year and half ago and bought a projector end of last year. It will be a while before i upgrade again, unless it becomes very cheap.

[van-essa]

Just bought a $3000 52V10 in November last year, it's going to be a while before I upgrade as well.

[Hideo_Kojima]

1. I will not have a 3d TV by this summer... not until I can get a 32" for under £800-700.

2. This is Sony I am used to them delaying everything:
Move
Home
PS3 in Europe
PSN movies in Europe

As long as it works well I am fine with it being late.

[Anon1974]

Full color, 3D media is something I thought I wouldn't see in my lifetime and it's the holy grail of gaming as far as I'm concerned.

That being said I've a brand new baby and I've gone back to school. 3D will have to wait at least a year, unfortunately. Should be more media available by that time anyway.

[ELite_Ghost]

actually 2 movies but still lol

As long as it gets it by early 2011 I'll be happy :)

[Automat]

what happened to burnout paradise`? that game has been showed off several times in 3d... knowing them right it will be another free update i guess.. :)

[Neo604]

most of the time Sony are aiming at rich ass early adapters first.
Still eventaully ps3 will be capable 3D player.

nextgen start when Sony say so, unless someone tell me who else.

[Marty8370]

Sony should aim to have 3D Blu-ray support for PS3 Firmware just before 'Avatar 3D' releases, believe it's in November.

[JustTheFactsMr]

Last time I looked Games are on Blu-ray and it is getting a summer update for them.

Better headline would be something like

PS3 will get 3D Movie update later in the year.

[WildArmed]

Yeah i think Sony already said that. Misleading indeed.
They said Game support soon, and MOvie support to follow

Not that i care about 3d, i'm not buying a 3dtv..
but i thought sony said in feb we'd get a update for 3d.

Well I hope the update brings more than just 3d to the table. I love new features that i can use.. I dont wanna update for a useless feature (atleast to me).

I want to experience 3D, it sounds amazing.. but it just isn't financially possible for most peopel

[BBAM]

Though wouldn't mind Motorstorm PR, Wipeout HD and super stardust HD in 3D so not all that bad.
Guess it depends on the price of the TVs when they come out whether I'll buy straight away or wait until the update to make compatible with 3D Blu-ray films.

[CorporateClown]

Although only 4 games is kind of lame, I can't really think of any games that would be more intense in 3d than wipeout or motorstorm. My dad is planning on picking up a 3d tv so I'll have to bring over pacific rift to rock our face off!

[keysy420]

they said that along time ago it was a later update

[MajestieBeast]

im gonna wait for a 3d tv that doesnt need glasses.

[ChozenWoan]

wanna hold your breath... it'll be fuuuuUUUN. >:)

[WildArmed]

we'll probably see those once 3D kicks off (decently) and they understand people are willings to pay for this commodity.
Because obviously no glasses 3d = more expensive 3dtv

[Morituri]

This 3D stuff is way too soon, way too fast. Most homes dont even have an hdtv in them yet. Why are they so gung ho on pushing 3D on us?

[WildArmed]

well i dont think they are pushing it forcfully.
Most game support 3d optionally

[D4RkNIKON]

Salvador Dali embraces the third dimension

[dkgshiz]

Has an HDtv in their home. Plus thats all they sell now anyways.

[castags]

Salvador Dali and myself embrace LS3D gaming

[ReBurn]

There doesn't seem to be any rush since there really isn't going to be that much 3D content available anyway. Even Avatar isn't going to be available in 3D until 2011, although I will be picking up my non Blu-ray copy next Tuesday.

I wonder if Samsung will somehow be able to give my 46" B6000 model 3D support via firmware update? They could have an IR transmitter for the glasses that attaches to the USB port or something. Maybe. I hope. Because I sure don't want to buy a new TV.

[ApocalypseShadow]

sure you don't need bluray or broadband or wifi or HD or 3DTVs...blah..blah..blah...

just because it's not for YOU doesn't mean it's not for someone else.

how does technology become the norm if it's not introduced in the first place?someone has to start it off first to make it acceptable.more companies on board means a price war that brings the price down.the earlier it releases means the tech becomes cheaper over time to make.

"i don't like 3Dtv."

good for YOU and YOUR opinions people.but some of us...

****DO LIKE IT****

[Daver]

totally agree

[Baka-akaB]

I dont think anyone can really be upset , without any major 3d bluray yet during summer , not even avatar

[Cyb3r]

This is putting me off getting a 3DHDTV

[Baka-akaB]

why for bluray movies you do not have while you can still play games and watch 3dtv footage ?

[KeiserSosay4788]

Reburn: I was hoping the same as well, I think I have that exact model actually 40"...the super thin one right?

[ReBurn]

Yep, that's the one. Couldn't resist the deal on it.

[jjesso1993]

i got 52'' sony braiva but had take it back so the momment on 30'' computer monitor but got £1000 for bigger tv iam waiting for 3d tv but cant seem to find any online

[air1]

that sucks! i guess this confirms that god of war 3 isnt 3d ready. for some reason i thought it was cause of some elements in the game like the orbs, the smaller orbs, to me just look like it can be 3d but i guess not..

edit@ jj1993
try tigerdirect.com

[ApocalypseShadow]

the article has nothing to do with games.

there will most likely be more games announce at E3 and after.but sony announced this a long time ago that games firmware is first,then movies firmware later.

this article is not new.just a misleading title.

[air1]

you are right... i read it again and it clearly says it in the second paragraph lol. i can wait for the 3d movies just give me the 3d games.

so gow3 sill has a shot at being 3d?! someone needs to confirm this i beat the game 3 times, titan is no joke i wont even touch chaos. i will def play again if i can play it in 3d it would be sick to play/watch the posieden fight in 3d

[corneliuscrust]

All I read was WIPEOUT HD and that was enough.

Do what you've gotta do sony, just bring me my Wipeout HD 3D and I'll be tripping balls for months.

[Excalibur]

Last year and I'm going to pay the last $700.00 tomorrow, I won't be buying another HDTV anytime soon.
In fact my next purchase will be updating my 10+ years old DVD/surround system.

[air1]

the only 58" samsungs i know of are plasma why would you go plasma? i know they have a darker black but..... still.

i can be wrong though its been sometime since my last hdtv and i know they have new ish every year. i do plan on upgrading the 46" for 3d in the living room soon but not to no 58" that price is pushing it for me. enjoy it, it has to be nice! i love samsungs i have 3 46 being the largest and will be the same size i get again..

[GrandDragon]

It seems a few of you on top are very uninformed, there's a new disc format called '3D Blue-ray Discs' and they'll be launching this summer.

The PS3 won't be supporting this new format until sometime after the first 3D F.W update. I can actually understand why Sony have delayed it because 3DBR discs run on 1% software and 99% hardware, Sony themselves said a more powerful laser (new 3D BR players have them) is needed to read the new 3DBR disc format.

This new format will most likely come to the PS3 but with a modified version of the 3DBR disc format so that the PS3's BR laser can read it without having to physically change the PS3's internal hardware.

[jalen247]

Sony has been said this. This article is nonsense. The updates were always separate since they first started talking about it.

[anonymouse111335]

Good for the people wanting 3D games, too bad for 3D movies, I personally recommend not getting a 3DTV though since I think it'll flop with the big push for 3D in EVERYTHING.

[JustTheFactsMr]

Just like real life. We live and breath in 3D. 2D is a compromise.

Just like black and white TV was a compromise. And for the same reason 3D will eventually be the biggest thing since colour. It closes the gap and brings us closer to how we perceive the world. People love that for some funny reason.

It's like HD sports X 10 in terms of immersion.

How many people given the option want to go back to watching football in SD vs HD? Zero.

It will be even more so once people have *actually* tried 3D.

As it trickles down to camcorders etc you will feel like your actually there with your kids (even if you weren't) rather than just watching them in a movie. Powerful stuff that *will* effect how you experience the moment.

[anonymouse111335]

The bad thing with most 3D though is most people with history of seizures or epilepsy can't see them at all, and they're pushing for it in everything all at once which is a bad move, not everyone can afford it all at once, hell, most people don't even have HDTV's yet and they're pushing for 3D. 3D is also bad for playing for long amounts of time because it gives headaches easy, Regular TV will too but that's prettymuch a thing of the past nowadays, especially if you do the 20/20/20 trick (look 20 feet away for 20 seconds every 20 minutes, Im unsure if closing your eyes has the same effect however)

[JustTheFactsMr]

"The bad thing with most 3D though is most people with history of seizures or epilepsy can't see them at all"

So the other 99.9% of the population shouldn't have it? No. That kind of thinking is just plain wrong. Millions of people are color blind and the rest of us still get to enjoy colour tv or peanut butter sandwiches for that matter.

"and they're pushing for it in everything all at once which is a bad move, not everyone can afford it all at once, hell, most people don't even have HDTV's yet and they're pushing for 3D. "

You just said most people don't even have HDTV's and they have been pushing those for 5+ years. 3D is no different than any other technology. Colour TV, DVD, etc. It gets slowly adopted over time based on consumer appetite.

"3D is also bad for playing for long amounts of time because it gives headaches easy, ". I sat thru Avatar which was my first 3D xp without effect. So did my 4 kids and wife. Don't know what you mean or what proof you have everyone gets a headache after 20 minutes. Certainly not my families xp so far.

[anonymouse111335]

You're completely missing the point, they wouldn't be able to watch 3D at all with things that are only 3D color blind people can watch color TV and not worry about seizures that is a completely different scenario. But by the time they began pushing new technology most people already had the last one, not like this, and almost everyone else I've talked to have gotten a headache from the 3D

[JustTheFactsMr]

"You're completely missing the point, they wouldn't be able to watch 3D."

No I'm not. People that DIE from eating peanut butter can't eat peanut butter. That's life. And dying is much worse than a seizure. Please try understanding my responses before claiming I"M missing the point.

2D will be here for at least decades so for you to crap over 3D out of your concern for .0000000000001% of the population that have alternatives is a ridiculous argument. Doesn't make you ridiculous. Just your argument.

Should we stop mfg peanut butter? It's deadly to lots of people.

"But by the time they began pushing new technology most people already had the last one"

And that sucks for MORE people not less. More people then end up buying something twice. This way the 50% or whatever who haven't bought a HDTV yet can get both and only pay ONCE. IF they want. IF not they can buy just a 2D set. It also drives the price down of 2D down faster. So since you want 2D only you should be HAPPY 3D is going to make 2D cheaper for you not upset about it.

"and almost everyone else I've talked to have gotten a headache from the 3D".

Well that flys in the face of any research that places nausea, headaches at 20% on the very top end and 5% on the low end.

In fact if your xp'ing that with 3D there is a very GOOD chance you actually need regular glasses or your prescription has fallen behind and you need a new one. It's an indicator of a wider problem you should address anyway. Your probably getting more headaches after long days in front of the computer or TV. You just aren't getting the immediate feedback to make the connection.

[AliTheBrit19]

Xbox 360 is getting into this whole 3D thing too, wonder when Microsoft are going to talk more about it.

[JustTheFactsMr]

They aren't talking about it because they aren't getting into this whole 3D thing with the 360. The gimped hardware of component, HDMI 1.2 they claimed were more than good enough is the reason in case your wondering. Also the EDRAM cache was a cost cutting measure instead of using high speed components in the rest of the system.

"So what does it take to get real 3D that does not give you a headache? Well, having tried LCD shutter glasses running at frame rates above 60fps, I'm pretty well convinced that we have finally figured out a way to produce full color, HD, 3D images in the home that won't make your eyes bleed."

"In order to create this, you must be outputting your video at no less than 120fps. Being that HDMI 1.2 (which is found in Xbox 360) tops out at 1920×1200p at 60fps, the Xbox 360 finds itself very limited as to how fast it can send frames to the TV."

"Then you also have framebuffer issues. The Xbox 360 uses EDRAM as it's frame buffer, which it has 10Mb's of. A single 1080p frame occupies about 16mb's of space for both the front and back buffers, which requires some trickery just to get 360 to output in native 1080p at all. Even then, it's limited as to what it can do at that 1080p resolution. This is likely the reason we've seen more native 1080p games on the PS3. For those of you wondering, PS3 uses it's main video RAM as it's framebuffer, giving it 256mb's to work with. This presents disadvantages vs. EDRAM (the slower RAM speed makes effects like anti-aliasing much more costly from a performance point of view), but as you can see, also allows advantages like 3D and easier native 1080p."

"How does the framebuffer effect 3D? Well, even at 720p with no anti-aliasing at all, you need at least 7mb of data to store one 720p frame. When you're only working with 10mb's for your frame buffer, you can see how difficult it can be to try to cram 2 720p frames (14mb) into a 10mb framebuffer to be processed in the exact same amount of time. It's like cramming the circular block into the square hole... don't even bother."

"So, without even taking into account that Xbox 360's HDMI 1.2 port just doesn't have the bandwidth, nor is it compatible with the new 3D TV's coming this summer, we can see that native 120fps 3D simply is not going to happen on Xbox 360."

SO about the best you can hope for is basically faked 2d to 3d upscaling by the TV but you won't get native 3D like the PS3. Think SD vs HD only worse and only a few game types under even those circumstances.

IOW don't expect MS to put much effort into 3D games since their isn't much point. That's why they haven't been talking about it. You will get crappy TV upscaling of 2D images rather than games outputting multiple streams for each eye for proper 3D.

"While you won't be getting the 100% native HD 3D picture that the PS3 will offer, there are a number of 3D TV's out there which will upscale ANY game connected over ANY HDMI cable/port to 3D. While this only really works on certain games, most notably racing games which feature a fixed center character/object (the car) on a 3D plane that doesn't move much (the horizon), when used with those types of games, many who have tried it report that the 3D effect works well. The effect is essentially the 3D version of DVD upscaling. Just like with upscaling, you won't get Blu-Ray quality (or in this case, cinema 3D quality), but it definitely adds a sense of depth to the games it works best with."

The funniest part is this bit to justify why 360 is gimped when it comes to 3D.

"Considering it came out a full year ahead of the PS3, "

Except it didn't have HDMI then and they added HDMI 6 months AFTER the PS3 which had HDMI 1.3.

But like everything else on the 360 they cheaped out on components.

Also the low processing overhead of Move will allow for 3D movement with 3D games for total immersion.

Natal and 3D game working together. Not so much.

Of course the biased media will fail to point that out in the never ending stream of articles about how Natal offers more than Move./s

[jjesso1993]

ms have very limted options with 3d as the 360 dose not have hdmi 1.3 that is nessary to carry the high bandwidth that 3d needs

[DarkBlood]

guess a next tv i purchase once it gets cheaper will be a 3d tv with 1080p or so but for now i'll stick with my 32 inch sony 1080i tv for now :P