Spain Confirms That Project Natal Delivers

GT:We've all seen old Project Natal videos showing the primitive E3 09 build of Ricochet that Microsoft keeps showing everywhere until now. Spain got the first look at a newer and improved build of Natal that even though being far from the final version it showed enough improvement to impress the media. Here we gather all the impressions from the Spain media and what they had to say after playing Project Natal.

[green]

Good to hear that the lag times have reduced significantly. I am sure that the lag with multiple people on screen will be reduced come launch. Now, its to wait and see if they can deliver on the softwear front.

[van-essa]

As usual, this article is going to be filled with trolls, Green and I are going to get 500 disagrees and the world will keep on spinning.

On topic:
"The receiver sensitivity is amazing, being virtually instantaneous response time in single-player game, where you could identify perfectly the force with which to hit the ball, its direction and distance just waving his arms. That little lag almost imperceptible in the single game is somewhat increased when there are two players on screen, but even so, the reaction of the console is also impressive"

"despite the typical test demo gallery shattering glass boxes and balls, I saw the camera meets and exceeds all expectations"

There you have it. We're still months away from the final product and it's already looking awesome.

[Sitris]

Halo
Fable
Gears
Mass Effect

Personal note, i am against both Move and Natal i need SOFTWARE i dont give a toss about hardware and what it potentially can do. If u need a controller for any natal games then it goes against everything MS has been saying.

[leila01]

Why would you want to play them without a controller? You're still going to play your Halo, Gears... with a controller and Natal could just add something new like T-bagging, crouching, waving your hands (avatar's hands) to say Hello in a MMORPG for instance... the possiblities are endless.

For the core gamers, Natal will enhance what they're already use to. For the casuals it'll make things easier since they don't have buttons to worry about anymore.

[Hands Up For Games]

E3 is going to be the place where we finally see what Natal has to offer, if they only have the Richochet game and the Paint game available then they will be rightly laughed out of the convention centre and Natal will be a failed product.

Do you think that is what MS will show at E3 this year; Richochet and the Paint game or do you think they will have other games to show us?

FPS using Natal only is a no, FPS using Natal in conjunction with a regular controller? I can see that. We also know that Fable 3 will incorporate Natal, though we dont know how.

There will be dozens more articles on here about Natal before E3 and they will all be pointless because MS are not going to show any Games before E3, after that people will either have the ammunition they need to shout down Natal or they may need to eat some humble pie. Either way E3 is going to be a cracker this year for all 3 of the big platforms!!

[4Sh0w]

It pays to at least know a little bit about something you're questioning, because then you might not ask such an obvious question.

"I think we’ve got the best thumb-based controller ever created,” Mattrick told Edge. “We’re not going to take anything away. There will be controller-based games. What we’re really doing is adding to our platform; when I think about Natal, I think of it like a Guitar Hero controller—it fits the experience better. There will still be games that use the controller, games that use only Natal, and games that use a combination."

“Think, you could be playing a game with a controller and have your character react when you instinctively duck out of the way of an explosion, or the ability to throw a grenade with a gesture. I don’t think of Natal as taking anything away, I see it as adding more."
http://www.edge-online.com/...

"We'll have games that are specifically designed to work only with Natal - not just arcadey games, but real, hardcore, triple-A titles," Kipman enthused.

"Then you'll have some games that are essentially a hybrid - games that work both with the controller and with Natal.

"Why is that interesting? Think about a first-person shooter where I'm using the controller but I'm doing facial tracking by just moving around and looking round corners."
http://www.jolt.co.uk/news/...

So as you can see microsofts been pointing out as far back as E3 09 that Natal can be used in some games as a "controller free" device o it can be used with a standard 360 controller. The key is it all depends of the type of game and of course how the dev WANTS to utilize the tech....and it only takes just a tad bit of imagination to at least assume how Natal could be used in a wide variety of ways in an FPS with use of a standard 360 controller= imo thats what most gamers like me want to see from Natal. I have so many ideas myself, its a shame microsoft hasn't contacted me yet, lol, if you like I will PM you some.

[GameOn]

The only advantage to Natal for me is that it can be used in conjunction with the traditional controller. That should hopefully mean that it can be implemented into many different games for many different reasons.

Some examples could be:
Leaning around corners in Halo.
Expressions/gestures in Fable.
could be used for taunting the opposing team in Gears.
Could be used for team commands in Mass Effect.

Yeah, so basically its is the small additions to traditional games that interests me rather than "controllerless gaming" which is clearly aimed towards the casual crowd.

BTW I am in no way sold on Natal yet but i will be keeping an open mind.

[Gue1]

Even if Natal's being implemented with traditional controller would you pay an additional ammount of $60(price for Natal?) just to wave your hands? That's stupid. Incredibly stupid...

[van-essa]

"could be used for taunting the opposing team in Gears."
"Could be used for team commands in Mass Effect."
"Could also be used in MMORPGs for the gesstures like dancing, saluting"

Wow I can already see myself controlling my avatar with Natal. Either it's the taunting in Gears or the gestures in MMORPGs, or the face recognition is RPGs (Natal can even tell when you're happy or frowning your face...). I hope devs implement these well in future games.

[KingKionic]

Yeah that wasn't , ill fix it .

sorry...

[right and wrong]

"Please tell me how you play the following games without any controller"

Simple...You use a controller! Once again not every game will require Natal and MS never said they would.

"Personal note, i am against both Move and Natal i need SOFTWARE i dont give a toss about hardware and what it potentially can do."

Then don't come into Move or natal threads if they don't interest you. Why bring up Move anyway? This is Natal were talking about.

"If u need a controller for any natal games then it goes against everything MS has been saying."

Oh quit hating already! The only people not telling the truth are the ones spreading Fud like you and not excepting the truth. Grow up and quit trying to sound credible.

OT: I look forward to seeing what the people of Spain saw come E3. By June 15th it can only get better.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Why do a tech demo at a foreign country with little to no media coverage? All we have is that one leaked video of the girl being bored to death in the bg. Where are the PUBLIC tech demos like what Sony is doing with the Move? Natal's tech not living up to its promise?

[van-essa]

That's how marketing works. Nintendo is doing it (Vitality sensor, Wii, 3DS...) and Microsoft is doing it. I'd like to explain why they're doing it but I would be wasting even more time on you...

[Bigpappy]

Okay so the lag is not the issue, if you can believe any of these media outlets, so now we have to wait for E3 to see some software. M$ must have payed all of these corrupted media outlet off. They probably had to pay them double and Spain is not exactly an Xbox strong hole.

Disclosure: I am a 360 owner who is very excited about the feature set Natal brings to gaming. I see it as very attractive to casuals, since they can just get in front of the Tv act silly and have a load of fun laughing at each other while
As for the hard core, some will enjoy the casual time with friends and family. Other will just have to wait and see how developers use Natal along with the controller. For PS3 fanboys: The Move is focused on you guys early. You will get Socom, LBP, Heavy Rain and RE early after the Move releases. I hope Sony can improve on some issues I noticed, but hope you guys get a good produce you can enjoy. You never know. May be the Move will shock us at E3 and the Natal will fail (like you ask for in your daily prays to the N4G gods). Not likely from my perspective.

Another thing: while PS3 owners try to figure out how Gears and Halo play with Natal ( If u need a controller for any natal games then it goes against everything MS has been saying)there will be a controller for FPS, Natal would have sold millions and the rest of us will be enjoying the new features that Natal bring to the table. If I were you I would just go play some "Exclusives" and stop worrying so much about the poor 360 owners like myself. Halo and Gears don't need Natal. The 360 controller is perfect for those games. But we sure are looking forward to some great Natal fun, before and after Halo games. Can't F'ing wait!

[bjornbear]

la mayoria de vosotros non saben donde esta questo pais, pero aceptan la sua opinione

la mayoria de voy eres TRONCOS xD

- on topic -

my spanish is ok in speech but terrible in writing xD still i think i said it right =), but yeah thats all I have to say...

still, hopefully they will show something more solid at E3, i expect more

[JokesOnYou]

"Personal note, i am against both Move and Natal i need SOFTWARE i dont give a toss about hardware and what it potentially can do."

-Then why are you here?...and do you follow "wii-move" threads saying the same thing? lmfao, we know the answer already.

"If u need a controller for any natal games then it goes against everything MS has been saying."

hmmm, this is dated June 4, 2009, it highlights micros plans for Natal to be used both as a "hands free controller" >>AND<< with a 360 controller:
http://www.edge-online.com/...
“Think, you could be playing a game with a controller and have your character react when you instinctively duck out of the way of an explosion, or the ability to throw a grenade with a gesture. I don’t think of Natal as taking anything away, I see it as adding more."

-So, NO its people like YOU who spread FUD and make up shiii all the time that makes n4g a funny place to laugh at the delusional fanboys and sad place when you realize they might actually not ever grow out of it.

@Saaking/Saga Kin, you clearly don't understand marketing, micro advertises natals ablility to do "controller-less experience" because its something the competition does not do, a good marketing strategy always aims to advertise your advantages over your competitors, that however does NOT mean it is the only way to use Natal. Does ps3 only play bluray movies? No, but early advertising of the ps3 made it a very big emphasis of what the ps3 was capable of; maybe even to a fault with some media criticism at the time saying there was too much focus on the bluray aspect and not enough on games, either way the point is don't confuse advertising a advantage with the idea that a product is limited to whats highlighted in the advertising, especially when we know micro definitely wants to find a way to grab the wii's audience attention.

JOY

[Bigpappy]

Why, because it is so feasible? "But..,but M$ said....". Pleeeease, enough already! Either it will work well with the controller or it will not. The developer and M$ said that some game will work better with a controller and some will have to use both. Why does the PS3 need the 2 controllers and a camera when they already have DS3 and Six Axis? Who the fck cares? They make them. You buy them. Or you leave them on the F'ing shelves. Is being a PS3 owner a brain defect?

[n4gno]

"Why would you want to play them without a controller? You're still going to play your Halo, Gears... with a controller and Natal could just add something new like T-bagging, crouching, waving your hands (avatar's hands) to say Hello in a MMORPG for instance... the possiblities are endless"

exactly, but it was called eye toy before :)

[dc1]

"could be used for taunting the opposing team in Gears."
"Could be used for team commands in Mass Effect."
"Could also be used in MMORPGs for the gestures like dancing, saluting"
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Good reference Van-essa - I will be picking up the Move,.. but will wait and see how Natal is functionally incorporated into the games I (my family)prefer to play. Honestly,... I have resisted the purchase of the 360 for a number of reason (not from a financial perspective as M$ has made the 360 a very easy purchase). If Natal pans out - it could very well replace the Wii - which has been a complete failure in our house hold - wife two kids. Really, nothing against Nintendo (they continue to be marketing juggernauts), However, my wife and son has forced me to purchase another PS3.. while my Wii sits.. and the controls lose battery charge... not from over use,.. but from prolong periods between use...

[Christopher]

Spain Confirms! Videos unavailable to prove it!

I'll wait till E3.

[ActionBastard]

I won't believe it until Norway confirms.

[palaeomerus]

" Even if Natal's being implemented with traditional controller would you pay an additional ammount of $60(price for Natal?) just to wave your hands? That's stupid. Incredibly stupid... "

Well silly straw man arguments like the above are almost ALWAYS incredibly stupid. That's why making them is a waste of time. They almost never persuade anybody.

[boodybandit]

Distance from the camera.
Lighting needed if any.
Response time/delay ms.

All of my gaming areas have issues. Two of them I sit really close to my display and my 3rd one is in a theater with no windows and it has minimal light because of my projectors lms.

I am looking forward to all of these questions being answered at E3. This place seems rather slow lately for news but in a few weeks it's going to explode. I cant wait! I'm already getting geeked up for it.

[right and wrong]

Well BoodyBandit you definitely have some good questions. I'm sure it will work fine in the dark especially since your going to be able to use it for watching movies and scrolling.

[darkequitus]

Look at he Primsense specs as it does not use 3DV

Distance from the camera. - 0.8m - 3.5m
Lighting needed if any. - None Scene illumintated by Near IR
Response time/delay ms. - 3-4 ms from interview

[boodybandit]

So you are saying Natal will/should have the same or similar specs as what you listed?

[Anon1974]

It really doesn't matter if the Natal tech delivers or not. Microsoft hasn't yet shown anything that I'd be interested in playing and you can have the best gaming tech in the world but with no games to play, who cares? Where are the games?

Let's hope for their sake they have something to show actual gamers at E3 and not that same breakout game. Games like that have been available on PC's with webcams for 10 years now. No one cares. Show us actual games, like Move has done with games like Socom. Oh, but wait. You've told developers not to make shooter games because they won't work with Natal. So whatcha got for gamers then? Milo? Paint Party? That "Jump up in the air" Skateboard game? Slowed down Burnout?

[Tricksy]

to wave my hands or make any other random gesture in game.

I remember when 360 fanbois were saying "This is the new face of gaming! Hands free technology! How innovative"

Now we have "It will be used with a controller!" "We can make gestures!" "Hardcore players wont be playing with only Natal, but it will be supplementing normal gameplay"

Ridiculous! HHAHAHAHAHAHA 360 fanbois are hilarious.

You told us your M$ lovers had created something innovative- FAIL, EYETOY

You told us that we would not need controllers- FAIL, now we need to use both, just to "enhance normal gameplay"

You told us this was new gaming- FAIL, now its just normal gameplay with handwaving and tauting... Taunting... how very 360

PS3 owners have told you repeatedly that your tech is old, its not the future of gaming, its not a new console and hardcore players will not be using it for any worthwhile game.

Its casual and guess what... its a gimmick. Get used to it.

You know, like the version of DS's that you can blow into... blowing into a console!!!! Its the future!!!! No its a gimick, like Natal.

[right and wrong]

Why all the hate? There should be plenty of Natal news come E3. MS doesn't need to give Sony any ideas of what to expect until June 15th. It makes perfect since to keep it under wraps until E3 to catch them off guard until it's ready. By making Sony show there hand (with move) MS puts themselves in an even greater position. Natal will be huge so go ahead and hate all you like.

@ tricksey: Natal will be shown at E3. Not one person outside of MS knows if it will live up to the hype or die trying. You laugh at 360 fan-boy's but I laugh at PS3 fan-boy's always trying to voice there opinion like it's important and truthful. If you prefer Move and Ps3 that's fine but Natal is on a totally different level.

[SpaceSquirrel]

Thats great to hear.

[ChickeyCantor]

" SOFTWARE"

Software is nothing without the hardware.... =D

[pixelsword]

I think his kid will love it, and with no controller, it means no chance of a small child flinging a controller into an expensive HDTV.

The only problem is I already gave my brother's wife a Wii game in anticipation of the purchase. If I can talk him into waiting until E3, I'm almost certain he'll get Natal if the price is right.

[Anon1974]

If I came on here, bashing Natal having never played it, that would be irrational hate.
What I'm saying is for a apparently "revolutionary" product, we've seen nothing that we haven't seen elsewhere before. Maybe it is something new, but again it'll need the games to back it up if it hopes to win the hearts and minds of gamers. I want to see more and actually play the thing before making my final call.

This is just an observation. You want hate, go look at articles about Move and watch people call the product names, make dildo references and scream at the top of their lungs that it's a Wii clone - all without never having played the damn thing.

[Christopher]

***Lighting needed if any. - None Scene illumintated by Near IR***

There are issues in low-light environs where it doesn't resort to IR. I have this issue in my house where I don't have direct overhead lighting, but lighting from a light to the side and from the other side coming in from outside. This results in a very grainy picture and makes it harder to capture my body shape and increases the chances of background objects being inappropriately read as a portion of a body.

Hopefully between now and release they implement software options that enable the user to determine when the IR should be used in addition to the camera.

***Response time/delay ms. - 3-4 ms from interview***

Response time is not at all 3-4ms for display on the screen. More than likely that's the time/delay for when the hardware receives and the software can begin to process the data received. That's also likely in an ideal situation.

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I can't wait to see what Microsoft shows at E3 and I really hope they implement configuration options that make it possible in all room types and lighting environments.

[baum]

And yet choose to ignore the videos of the celebrities playing with Natal, where anyone with a brain can see how much it fails in terms of lag, not to mention how retarded anyone looks playing Natal. No serious gamer can possibly think that Natal will be required for hardcore games.

Also, it's hilarious how the same crowd of Xbox apologists says that Natal will be used in conjunction. As somebody said above, what would be the point of getting Natal then? Pointless. The way "Move" is implemented is the way to go, and while it may not have two "eyes", it's been proven to do pretty much everything that Natal does, and more due to its integration with the controller interface.

Basically, natal fails at basic gaming tasks and in spite of its specs, it doesn't do anything other interfaces can't.

[right and wrong]

Then my bad for misunderstanding you. E3 should be interesting for both Move and Natal so I guess we just need to wait.

[gaffyh]

There's no video? We've heard multiple journalists say the lag is hardly noticeable, but when we've seen videos after that, the lag is very noticeable.

This is just the same sh*t, when will MS show anything other than that crappy ricochet???

[DOMination]

You'll get all your proof tomorrow when CliffyB stuns the world with incredible Natal support in Gears 3.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

"For the core gamers, Natal will enhance what they're already use to. For the casuals it'll make things easier since they don't have buttons to worry about anymore."

Another great comment from Leila! That's how I feel about it as well.

For me, I am looking forward to how Natal can enhance the "core" games I currently enjoy. The casuals can have their mini-game Wii type stuff if they want that and have no worries about buttons. The 2 can co-exist and I hope MS gives both sides of the coin equal time, money and support.

[Mikeyy]

@leila01

Use Natal to T-bag people? THIS is the future of gaming? Inconcievable!

[Jaces]

meh, nothing new. E3's right around the corner, I expect something more than just hitting a ball.

[GrandDragon]

Proof? No? FAIL!

[4Sh0w]

No its not proof, its just some recognized media sites from Spain who've had hands on with the latest build of Natal giving their impressions, which is infinitely more creditable than some random fanboy who hates all things microsoft and has never interacted with Natal himself but of course spits out his opinion of the device as if it were fact.

oh btw, almost every piece of news posted on n4g is NOT proof of anything, just news from devs, journalists, industry insiders, bloggers, & etc opinions.

[rexus12345]

this is a preview, and it's sort of a universal rule that you can't say any thing negative in a preview unless the product is really horrible.
I guess this article proves Natal is at least NOT a total disaster.

[wardi]

The real question is whether or not microsoft can line up some good software- something i sadly doubt

[Bill Gates]

Sorry BABOONS, but you will all be turned into arm waving BABOONS in a few months.....AHAHHAHAHHA

[NateNater]

Bill Gates calling Natal a failure = WTF EPIC WIN LOL

;-)

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

...NOTHING" ;-D

[Deadman64]

Poor Sir Ken :'( he's so sad Sony has gotten no attention so far...and the rest of the year!

What are they gonna deliver resistance 3?? hahahaha

Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Natal, Reach, Gears 3 is grabbing all the attention now :'(

[Omega4]

Considering MS has be updating it constantly throughout the year its not surprising it delivers.

All MS needs to do now is have that one must have game which demonstrates Natal's capabilities and bundle it with a Slim 360 and they got the holidays in the bag.

[Pedobear Rocks]

Holidays in the bag, in North America

And by 'in the bag' you mean 2nd most sales in North America.

Other than those 2 slight corrections, you're good.

PBR

[fox02]

The U.S is a given; despite everything the PS3 has, is right now (affordable bluray player, with amazing first party games, free online, reliability...) the X360 still outsells it in the US (we have no numbers for Europe as a whole, but we know it's, and by far, #2 in the UK).

So, when Natal, Reach, Fable... price drop, X360slim... release this fall, the only place the PS3 will be selling more than the X360 will be in Japan (assuming it outsells the X360 in some places other than in Japan).

[n4gno]

your equation is ignoring "move" (best motion controler) and future ps3 price drop (bye bye competitors)

[xaviertooth]

yeah it delivers frustration. as long lag will shy away potential casual fans which the 360 do not have it will prevent those people to try it because it will almost be impossible to play it more like it doesn't work so how will they play?

[Wrathman]

your butt looks like it hurts

[howjord]

did you actually read the article??

[xaviertooth]

microsoft just rely on their money to bribe developers to make casual games for natal. but publishers like codemasters sees that natal is garbage so they dismissed developing on it. codemasters have superb judgment so i give them props.

[Brklynty1]

Even though there's no proof, still within a year you'd expect the thing to have improve a lot. Though the developers complaining earlier this month, makes me wonder who's telling the truth now. Oh well, we'll just wait and see. Oh and Omega, don't say holiday is in the bag yet. Beacause you say, Natal, Reach and price drop, and Sony could say, Move, GT5, and price drop. And not to down play Halo or anything, GT is known worldwide, Halo mostly in US. Should they receive the same release date, M$ would most likely change theirs.

[X_GAMER_X]

Bubble up++++

[BrutallyBlunt]

Nice to see they are improving it all the time. Peter Molyneux said it's hard to demo something that's still being worked on. Can't wait to see what they show at E3 because these Ricochet videos are becoming redundant.

I think the best thing about all of this is the feedback has been very good from those who've tried it. It just opens up more possibilities and the ideas of how it can be utilized is coming from those who tried it aren't even developers. One said imagine playing a skateboarding game where it can show you grabbing the board in different places and holding up your arms before you bail. Another suggested playing Halo Wars and other RTS games. You can also use Natal with a controller. So imagine a game like Call of Duty or Gears of War and just letting go of the controller with one hand for a second and throwing a grenade without having to try and control the distance on the controller and what angle.

It's this kind of interest that's needed because feedback is how things can evolve, innovate and improve.

[X_GAMER_X]

And not negative. I like that. Bubbles+
if Microsoft deliver the product, Then its up to the developers to be creative and find new. Maybe like THQ, If their game going to be good

[green]

You sure are living up to your name. Bubbles+++ to you and xgamer

[BrutallyBlunt]

Well green if you're a fan of The Incredibles (hopefully they make a sequel) check this out:

http://www.rottentomatoes.c...

[Redempteur]

"Peter Molyneux said it's hard to demo something that's still being worked on."

polyneux always have time to talk but never enough to polish his games ( look at fable 2 bug list ).

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

maybe partnering to develop it. While throwing a grenade with Natal sounds cool and all, it not really using the system to its fullest.

It sounded like THQ's idea had Natal way more integral to the gameplay. Move appears to be more integral than Natal in its hardcore games. I think Move may be more popular with the hardcore player based on that alone.

While I know Sony and Microsoft's strategy for motion control are as different as the products themselves, I wish Natal was prioritized for the hardcore player.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

can anyone tell me when is E3???

[Nitrowolf2]

June 15th to 17th i believe

[awesomeperson]

Godddamit I get home from a five week camp on June 19th, could someone get them to delay it till then for me :)

[BrutallyBlunt]

Thanks green.

[Henry Cain]

Again with media. I want to see Natal in an enviorment not controlled by M$.

[MaximusPrime]

It's like reading an article about ps eye..

Really, MS is trying to catch up with Sony. It's 2 years late for PS EYE clone. In 2 years time MS will announce PS MOVE clone.

Anyway people, nothing to see here. We are in the present not the past.

[BYE]

It's not the first time they're trying to sell a copy of something as new and innovative.

[ps3hasnogamess]

you sony fanboys need to get lives lol, must you attack everything thats not sony? Not to mention Natal is so different from the eye toy, do some research. They both use cameras thats about all thats the same. Natal has 2 cameras that track all your motions instead of projecting an image of you onto the screen.

[BYE]

@ps3hasnogamess

Not everybody critizing MS business strategies is automatically a Sony fanboy. I'm a fanboy of anything that's quality. Sony had some sh*tty products in the past too like every company.

Microsoft not only copied Sony. Also Apple. And now they're trying it with Google (Bing).

The three companies should team up and build a anti-MS task force ;) /jk

[awesomeperson]

"you Microsoft fanboys need to get lives lol, must you attack everything thats not Microsoft?", see what I did there?

[nemrawy]

Spain can Kiss my ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hellsvacancy]

Spain confirms? SPAIN!!!

[theIMP]

Yes Spain, it's a country on the western side of Europe. Maybe you could pull out your globe or a book and look it up, douche.

[Hellsvacancy]

I know EXACTLY where Spain is u prat, i live much closer 2 it then wot u do, my point is "SPAIN" who gives a rats arse about Spain? (obviously Spanish people do)

Does Spain even hav that much of a gamin market? its full of us Brits (so i guess they do hav a big gamin market, didnt look at it that way)

The article may well of said "Kazakhstan Confirms That Project Natal Delivers" would any-1 even care?

[ReBurn]

So exactly which countries are credible and which aren't? Or does it depend on what the story is?

Xenophobia is not cool. Ever.

[keysy420]

oh ait been there done that

[X_GAMER_X]

thnx :)
Actually am looking forward to A horror or a puzzle game based on Natal. Open the doors with your hands. solve the puzzles with your mind and by moving your hands. Walking forward by aiming forward or using the voce recognition.

Something like that. Am sure the developers got more then I do :)

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Great ideas! And those types of things could be used in a game where a standard controller compliments it. Could be a nice hardcore affair using Natal tech.

[BYE]

Is playing beach volleyball with hot babes on a sunny day.

Much more fun than playing Riccochet, no matter how un-laggy it is :)

[mittwaffen]

Fight over anything,

Dont get your panties in a twist, wait intill it comes out.

[Claudinho69]

the whole country said that huh

[theIMP]

Yep.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

"Houston" we have a problem, everyone in Houston becomes concerned.

[Omega Zues]

So I check out the article after this spontaneous hype just exploded and to my disappointment what do my eyes see? Hit the red ball game...again and again and again.

That alone discredits Spain media forever.

[JackBNimble]

I find it funny they (who ever they are) will never show or demo anything other then this dodge ball.

[DelbertGrady]

Sounds like Natal will be awesome. Can't wait to see some of the software at E3. Wouldn't be surprised if Epic are making a game for it.

[gdguide]

Great to hear about the responsiveness and speed. Now just to show us demos besides the ball one and the breakdancing. These 2 demos just need to keep track of the edges of the body. What I need to see is just tracking the hands and more subtle things. So far it's still just doing (all be it more advanced) Eyetoy edge tracking. I want to see the facial recog, a fighting game, and so on.

As of now, they are basically where they were with Natal at the E3 premiere but without the processor.

[seij555]

Delivers what? I still haven't seen anything.

[Senden]

What impresses the media and what impresses gamers are totally different things.. they probably invited a bunch of newspaper reporters and crap and they were wowed by how awesome Milo looks.

[Figboy]

now that SPAIN confirms it.../sarcasm

i think i'll stick to my OWN opinions about NATAL, which are practically non-existent until i get my hands on it.

[Flipflopp]

I just want to be able to sit down and relax and play my games. Are people that excited to have to stand up and play games by swinging their arms around and ducking? Give me a recliner, a beer, my surround sound, and my LCD LED big screen TV and leave me be.

[Socomer 1979]

So all the xbox360 fanboys are excited for natal because they want to taunt with it & say hi while using a controller?
LMAO! Such A Huge Failure!!!!

Not even Fanboys know what the hell to do with it! Haaaaa!
They will buy it just to wave around like a baboon! Not for gamer skills, not for games, but for teabaggun?
So Homo!

I can't wait to see these fanboys on YouTube!!!
Ha ha ha!!!!

[Obama]

Now you can finally finally use your arse to catch the big red ball.

[bviperz]

Hopefully MS comes with the games. If it only 'enhances' game play in hardcore games (replacing an act that a push of a button can accomplish) while fully operating in casual games, then forget you.

[Captain Tuttle]

Glad to hear they got it working better, I guess. Still not really interested.

[El Nino]

sounded like the whole of spain approved of project natal lol

neway until i see a proper demo of this technology (e3 hopefully) i'm not convinced

i've said all along from what i've seen, i would only browse the dashboard with it, no lie.

[CountDracula]

It's you Spain!

(Rides off in the sunset together)

[XabiTheHumble]

that this is the same ricochet demo they been working on since E3 right? If it took them this long to make natal work with a simple stage demo, think about the amount of time it would take them to make a real hardcore game. There is a reason why the first batch of games is going to be family oriented.

[tiamat5]

Microsoft has begun the hype machine once again with everyone claiming that it is the greatest with almost no proof, no software or answers to questions about the obvious limits or uses of the Natal. Sony as so far proven that the Move can do several things with more to come. I refuse to listen to Microsoft's hype which always falls flat on it's face with the product being not even close to how epic everyone claims it is. Actual proof Microsoft. Not tech demos,not claims from far away countries, not false claims or claims from people who work for you, actual proof that proves that you are actually better then the rest

[ReBurn]

I'm glad to see some positive Natal news. Positive news is always better than negative news.

It's a bit disappointing that so many people want to see this technology fail. I don't get it. If you don't like it you don't have to buy it. Let those that are looking forward to it give it a shot.

[tiamat5]

I don't think that people want it to fail anymore then I think people want the Move to fail. But it's just that many of us know how Microsoft works and know very well the the kind of hype they generate and how not close the final product is compared to the hype. Everyone is already crowning Natal the winner before they have showed any games or seen it under gaming conditions or even before certain questions about the Natal that are being neatly avoided by Microsoft. Microsoft's way of business is tricky and underhanded and their only goal is to knockout the compitition even if they have to tell as many lies and half-truths as possible to do it. And instead of 360 owners get more wary after the hardware and software fiascos that Microsoft has perpertrated in the past instead they become more accepting and trusting. Go Figure.

[Xfanboy]

with all fanboyism aside i like to see new tech evolve as long as it makes sense to do it!!! go natal!!! go move!! lol!!

everyones getting in motion!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ImmortalLegend]

Microsoft is more than aware of the PS3's numbers gaining ground on them. They know they need to release natal with as much perfection as possible. Although, I not a fan of natal or even move for that matter, Microsoft would be stupid if they release something like this and it doesn't deliver. I'm just looking at the situation with logic. I'm not taking any sides.

[TheObserver]

Seriously, MS claims to have many publisher supporting Natal. Why don't MS just show a little bit/teaser of 3rd parties WIP and save the big and best ones for E3.

At least SONY have already proven they can do every genre of games possible with PSmove.

I will reserve my own personal judgment until REAL GAMES are released, so far Natal is heading towards failure: Looks like Eyetoy and plays like Eyetoy. If it looks like a duck, quack like a duck, play like a duck.... It's just a duck. It is just an Eyetoy. Need to see more.

360 guys... why are you hyping this so much... Shooters are best done with a trigger on the controller. Sure, you can implement Natal with a controller. Even with an open mind, this is still lame as hell when I imagine what I can do. With your hands occupied, are you going to show the bottom of your shoes or wiggle your arms like chicken wings as a gesture of action? Tilt your head nodding or shaking to and fro to look at the map? Extend your arm to switch weapons? You can try to think of possible things to do when playing with a controller like me. In the end, those are wasted energy... A button can do all that with less effort, energy, and error.

They best be showing worthy games soon or else the 360 cannot compete with the PS3 momentum.

Even if MOVE or NATAL delivers, the mouse and keyboard is still superior. Consoles should just use the m/kb combination and get it over with. Create a portable m/kb portable controller perhaps.

[the-show-stopper]

im not convinced until japan confirms it

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

It's official. NATAL looks to be a huge success. A lot of excitement is around NATAL.

Don't worry sony fans, you still have those silly blogs that make up lies about NATAL to look forward too. :)

[Morgue]

Why is it that the picture for this article keeps changing? 4 or 5 hours ago it was a girl wearing 6" stiletto heels in tight jeans and a leather jacket kicking her leg. Now it's a picture of a more " casually " dressed girl? Anyone else notice that?

[Daishi]

Just imagine the strip scene in Heavy Rain with Natal...

[gta_manic]

thought the who video when ever a person is playing the natal ball game the camera is either focused the person, the screen or zoomed out far enough to be too blurry to compare. the only time where the camera was a good distance the show both the movements of screen avatar and player angled it to have the player block the screen. All this seems to really iffy and aside from what news network says, nothing is really shown at all.

[Unknown]

I hope that NATAL does live up to what they showed in their concept videos...similar to how SONY delivered with KZ2 when everyone balked and said they couldn't. I still find it funny that people always ask how can you play X,Y,Z game without a controller. I'm like, "You idiot. Out of all the Mo-Controllers...Natal allows you to actually PLAY with a tradional controller!!!" I really don't understand why people fail to realize is that is where NATAL will shine. Its not taking your controller away like MOVE AND the Wii mote but incorporates motion into the existing controller for hardcore games. Yes I know MS is advertising the use of no controllers which is smart. B/C is something new and different. But mark my word, the hardcore games will have use of both motion and traditional controllers.

[gta_manic]

@unkown
So your saying natal is best used when games concentrate on the gameplay and only incorporate natal as a additional feature for hardcore games. that actually makes perfect sense, natal is a add on to gaming and not an innovation to gaming

[Unknown]

@GTA_Maniac- Why wouldn't NATAL be innovative IF it actually does what MS says it'll do. Yes, for hardcore games it'll probably be use to supplement the gameplay...which is a GOOD thing considering everyone whines about using the remotes. The fact that NATAL is flexible enough to be used solely without anything for casual games and used with a controller or whatever peripheial is pretty innovative to me...maybe not a revolution but a big evolution in the tech.

[gta_manic]

Like you said Natal is a lot more evolution then innovation, camera gaming was introduced by the eye, even if it was a failure it was the first to introduced camera only gaming, facemaping on custom characters and other little features. Although it is unlikely that Natal will achieve all that is claimed to be, even if it does it is limited to being an accessory for hardcore games with camera based gaming that has been explored before. Natal and the Move are really very similar products, both are built on a old designs and then rebuilt with new technology and reintroduced to the world.

[Unknown]

Do you know what innovation means? Innovation is "the introduction of something new". So by the PS Move offering 1:1 motion...I think that would be called innovative. By the NATAL allowing users to play with NO controller or allow the option of using motion with a traditional...I think that is something NEW and can be classified as an innovation. Now have fun proving my interpretation and what webster said innovation is. Not what I think you meant revolution and that right now can't be answered because MS hasn't shown anything to imply that this is the case. But I think an evolution is a safe bet.

[Petebloodyonion]

I don't understand the hate regarding Natal and the core audience.
Here's some ideas that I would love Natal for

1) A whole bunch of DLC games like virtua cops and other rail shooters.
10 bucks for a good old Sega arcade game, count me in.

2) Sports game: yeah I agree that a good football, soccer or hockey game will probably never see the day on Natal. But what about: Volley ball, Baseball, Boxing, Golf and olympics (Track and Fields)

3) Strategy games like Starcraft. Hey Simple! drag and drop where you want.
Another way: option box on the left corner, you grab units with right hand left point the right command. It's will be a lot faster compare to scroll, press button to select, press menu for option, scroll option, press button.

4) Music games like dj heroes and other. Hey follow beat and poke in the right place (just like Elite beat agent)

Again I really don't understand why peoples don't want to evolve
(Hey I used to play with a 2600 and it was a joystick then came the Nes with a gamepad, now would you go back to a joystick compare to gamepad ?)

[SuperStrokey1123]

Im not against natal but really i find it odd that the crowd (the 360 crowd) that was most against the "waving your arms like a moron" on the wii is the EXACT same crowd saying this is awesome when its obviously 100x worse... or better i suppose given you view point.

[Petebloodyonion]

I honestly enjoy it and in the middle of shovelware there's some gems like Tigerwood 2010, Metroid corruption and No more Heroes 2.
that input motion tracking really well.

Unfortunately for 1 good game there's one thousand Wii sports clone.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I shouldnt have made such a broad blanket statement as obviously not all gamers hate the wii in the way I described, this was more of an observation than anything that seems odd...

[Morituri]

The games are going to have to be good to get me to spend my $. Same with Move, however I can see more practical game applications with Move than Natal. And additionally, how many older 360's is this addition going to brick?

[Marty8370]

COVERALLS, LAGTALS a joke.

Jump Out, Play B3yond
MOVE over LAGTAL