Motion Plus support being considered for Conduit 2

The Lost Gamer writes: "Following the announcement of High Voltage Software's Conduit 2, the question on everyone's lips is whether the sequel will make use of Nintendo's widely-available Motion Plus peripheral.
The answer? Maybe."

[Seedhouse]

Hopefully be better than the first title =]

[raiden_93]

It did a lot of good things for the Wii. Fully customisable controls, full online mutliplayer. Sadly it was just lacking seriously in certain areas, I'm all for the sequel though.

[mastiffchild]

IDK if adding in support for M+ will, as it's a FPS, actually help The Conduit 2. The accuracy in the first game was good as I remember(though my Dogues broke the disc a while back!)and wouldn't be improved greatly(in fact I doubt we'd even notice it) by M+ on the shooting so unless they include a lot more melee combat or something else needing 1:1 detection I don't really see much point on the exrtra work M+ would involve.

Personally, I think there are other things they need to work on that are way more pressing than that:more varied game play, better level design, better and more death animations for enemy types, hit detection and a host of on line improvements including working the ASE in better to both SP and MP modes. Also, I feel, there's better visuals to be wrung out of that engine too-not that they did badly last time as they didn't but it was patchy as hell texture wise and some enemies were very much lower on pixels than the lead character or even a few of the boss enemies.

[SpoonyRedMage]

@mastiffchild: They've mentioned nearly all of those as things to improve on!

The main benefit of motionplus for a shooter is that when you points away from the sensor bar it still knows where the Wiimote is and it can turn the camera. They want to keep it optional so they won't be doing melee weapons.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

expect day 1 cheaters online on conduit 2 just like what happened to first one. unlimited ammo and health bs.

[YoungKingDoran]

CONSIDERED?! what? how could they only 'consider' such an improvement over the wiimotes accuracy? yeah, i guess it would be harder to make changes to your code wouldnt it high voltage?
well, if thats the reason, then their game will reflect their attitude

[SpoonyRedMage]

You have no idea how Wii FPSs work at all do you?

The widespread ignorance when it comes to the Wii is ridiculious.

[amogrr]

Sorry mage, but I agree with him. M+ does give a teensy bit of an improvement, and HVS has a lot to prove after how flippant they've been acting these days.

[ChickeyCantor]

@amo

No you dont agree with him.

FPS games work with the IR not the ACC.
So how will M+ be that great of an assistance when it comes to aiming( aside from the offscreen aiming, but then again you cant really shoot your target then can you)?

[amogrr]

Er yes, I do, actually. The point here being, anything that adds to the game, even the tiny bit that keeps the melee from throwing the camera off, should be added unquestionably.

And before you ask, yes, I do own Tcon, have been a big fan of hvs, and own most of the other good wii games.

[pcz]

motion pus or not the developers of conduit 2 just dont have the skill to make a good game.

[ChickeyCantor]

You are going to cry that over and over in every Conduit thread?

Why not hold your opinion till the game is out.

[pcz]

I am saving a lot of people the time and money that would otherwise be wasted on the game.

I predict a score of 7/10.

[Seekerofthewind]

...that all I've heard concerning Conduit 2 is 'We know we made mistakes in The Conduit, and we're going to try to remedy as many of them as we can in the sequel...'

You might not like HVS, but it's obvious that they realize that The Conduit was a lot worse than they wanted it to be. Why try to punish them for trying to improve something?

I'm not saying to blind-buy it day 1, but I see no reason to label it a bad game so quickly. After all, Red Steel 2's predecessor wasn't exactly the best game either.

[ChickeyCantor]

7/10 is a waste of money?
And i played the first one, While it was flawed I think they do have the potential to actually make it good this time around.

It doesn't need to be a 10/10.

[pcz]

Its one thing that conduit was mediocre but that gladiator game follows in its footsteps. What makes you think Conduit 2 will be any different?

Red Steel 2 was made by completely different developers, and remember, red steel one was probably made in a rush. High Voltage release consistently average games, so i'm not expecting much from Conduit 2.

Maybe High Voltage will perform a miracle and the game will be awesome, i would like that. But i don't see it happening. I would be a lot more interested in this game if it were distanced from Conduit in name and content- ie a whole new fps. If they learnt anything from Conduit, they would leave that concept alone.

[ChickeyCantor]

" red steel one was probably made in a rush"

The conduit 1 was made while the engine was in development.
They couldnt even do Splitscreen at the time(they can now, The grinder does it).

So its not really fair to say RS1 was "rushed" and completely rule out the fact the designers of TC1 were limited to the development constraint.
HVS has actually achieved more functionality from the Wii than most developers.

While you say the gladiater game looks bad, what about The Grinder?
The latest trailer actually looks good.

They got bashed for many things, you cant really say they didnt take notice. They admitted to every flaw any interviewer threw at them. They cant go worse, they can only do better.

7/10 =/= money waster, in fact ratings are overrated.
I've seen games scoring lower than other games that were worse in comparison.

( also you should really use the Reply button, the comments look disembodied xD)

[pcz]

''HVS has actually achieved more functionality from the Wii than most developers.''

Yes they made a great engine and then built a shoddy game with it.

''what about The Grinder?''

The Grinder does actually look promising, it has a lot of potential. I just hope it delivers.

''ratings are overrated. ''

Yes, as with conduit one, under a ton of hype reviewers over rated it.

I think the problem is, that HV shot themselves in the foot with all the pre release hype, promising 360 graphics and all that. So when the final product was released and it was underwhelming, of course i wont have high expectations for their next effort.

I think grinder is exciting because its a genuinely good concept, but conduit is horrible even on paper.

[tunaks1]

pcz is an odd wii owner
he hated NSMB
he hated Brawl
he hated Galaxy and hates galaxy 2
he hates Red Steel 2
and now we hates HVS

quite odd

[Gr81]

I have to say I like that though. Even though I like/love all the games you've listed, that's just me.

He likes what he likes and you know what? There is nothing wrong with that in the least.