If you are one of the many users who download movies illegally of the net via BitTorrent clients in the United States, you may be at risk of getting sued.
Hmm they fail to realise that they need to get publicity in the first place before dishing out big lawsuits.
So umm... ... Slow News day?
Peerguardian, need i say more.
waste of time since i have nothing for you to get
What is Peerguardian?
@DarkMurder You do realize peerguardian only slows your download speed down right? The IP's of the RIAA/MPAA are changed often for that reason. I find it hypocritical when theres videogame piracy articles and they're saying it's the end of the gaming industry but the general consensus on this one is it's okay if it's a TV Show/Movie? Let's face it, their copyrights are worth more than our human rights, if you let someone btorrow a movie/game/etc, you have borrowed/rented a movie/game/etc, you have essentially done what they call piracy, think about it and you'll realize it.
You are still at risk using peergaurdian, just not as high. Usenet is the way to go. yes, you pay $10-$15 a month for it, but you are paying for your own server, so say hello to a constant 2-3mb download. And since it is no peer to peer network, you are pretty safe. You are only getting the information from that one server, so almost 100% safe, and even if somebody does catch on, your usenet server provider is more likely to take the heat than you are.
@Raypture Logic on n4g?!? What blasphemy is this!
By PeerGuardian you meant PeerBlock, which made the original software obselete. PG is no longer being updated, and PB is basically identical and is updated constantly. Pretty sure the developers are originally from Peer Guardian. And no, PeerGuardian/PeerBlock do *not* slow down your downloads. Whoever said this has no idea what they're talking about. If anything, it speeds up as you are refusing connections with other IPs that are on the block list, and that consequently frees bandwidth. They change their IPs so that they can get past software like PB, but then PB just updates and adds the new IP to the list. There is plenty of valid info on their website. For further security, I'd recommend using private trackers if possible.
@Wicko You do realize they don't constantly use the same IP right? And that IP's get changed from person to person periodically, whereas a IP from something like media defender may have been blocked a few weeks ago it could be a legit peer now, and since that IP is blocked you can't share with them. Private Trackers don't help much since most of the anti-piracy groups are still scraping the tracker to get your IP, which can be done without registration, Warner Brothers are also hiring people to mainitain accounts at private trackers now.
peer block if you're using windows 7 64 bit
"“The genesis of this legal campaign occurred in Germany when lawyers from the US Copyright Group were introduced to a new proprietary technology by German-based Guardaley IT that allows for real-time monitoring of movie downloads on torrents"
On a serious note, why is this practice legal? Isn't this practice of obtaining IP addresses illegal?
@HOC Not that I know of, technically by downloading it you are doing something illegal, the Cross Days thing where they uploaded screenshots of pirates' desktops was technically illegal for malware and invasion of privacy, but with these things the logic seems to be two wrongs make a right
You'll be safe, lol, what are they gonna do?, sue 30% of the world?
they cant take out everyone who does this though i imagine theres more then 500,000 doing this they are just wasting thier time.
They may make an example of a few individuals, and it probably wouldn't go far in court anyway. Simply put, you're more likely to win the lottery than be subject to significant legal action as a consumer of pirated media.
If they do come after ya, go with an identity theft defense. Tell them you type with 2 fingers.
This is terrifying news... I download movies constantly if they are not on Netflix's instant streaming.
i do that too haha but i still think chances of getting caught are still minimal.. you gotta have terrible luck to get sued over this
20K lawsuits? that's like what? 0.01% of sll bit torrent users in any given month? And these are for what? German independent films pirated in the US? Talk about long odds.
Dude if you have netflix, why are you even downloading them illegally?
PRETTY WELL!!!? I'd imagine a defence lawyer would be laughing all the way to the bank with prosecution evidence thats 'pretty' accurate.
The burden of proof in a civil case is not nearly as heavy as that of a criminal case, so "pretty well" is well enough.
By the sound of things you're only going to get sued if you download German indy films. There are 50,000 US bit torrent users who DL German movies? Indy German movies?!
This crossed my mind, too. Sounds like they caught ALL of them and then some. :)
I download a regular TV episodes off of a torrent site (ones I missed). It is NOT a movie, just a TV series. I wonder if that counts?
Oh man you shouldn't have said that on the internet, they are gonna get your ip now :/ gl. I'd reformat your hard drives asap
Sorry at work and they can come here and my home and search all they want, lol. Seriously however, i wonder if a regular TV program counts. I mean I can watch the exact same program on CW. I just download it off of torrent, work around the home, when i am ready, watch it.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal. They charge for episodes through iTunes, PSN, XBL, etc. None of which is free. So my guess is that they could catch you on it if they wanted to, but more than likely they won't. I doubt they'd care that much. A lot of people do this, and I haven't heard much from the companies who produce them about torrent-ing. Especially since it encourages you to watch their broadcast when you get caught up. You're also a walking advert, basically. Same thing has been going on with the anime industry for the last couple of years.
I read another article related to this not long ago (if I can remember where, I'll post a link). My understanding is that copyright law for television programs in a digital space is currently an entirely gray area. Little or no precedent has been set, and everyone should know, it's not the law that matters, but the interpretation. It stands to reason that if one was, say, a cable television subscriber, who has perfectly legal access to the content, but chooses to download instead for purposes of convenience, there is likely no wrong done. It is basically up to the producers of the content to choose where to draw the line, and prosecute accordingly.
"They are suing on behalf of independent film producers in Germany" Yeah like anyone is going to get sued for downloading german granny orgy porn
here in uk virgin was doing deep packet inspections,dont know if it workt cause my friend still downloads from rapidshare and megaupload etc,does that only apple to torrent apps or all downloads in both countries? supposed to be a 3 strikes and ur net gets turned off,dont know if its even still in practicing cause i havnt heard or read much on people getn axed net from downloading.
That three strikes rule sounds enticing. Here in the U.S., we don't have those types of consumer protections. Maybe when this consumer protection agency gets off the ground we will; who knows.
The three strikes policy is "we reasonably believe your doing something wrong, strike one". No chance to defend yourself, no due course of law, just a strike issued because someone had a hunch.
in the US??? baaaahahahahaha it's corporate protection or nothing. fascism at its finest.
It sounds like you need to download German Indie Films for this to apply to you, so most people in the States don't have to worry.
one of them is that Far Cry film by Uwe Boll. if you're downloading his movies, then i think you deserve to get sued.
Yeah, Uwe Boll is a terrible director. Watching his movies is a crime in itself.
Just great.. I d/led far cry....It was real bad. Now i am going to get sued for a movie i watched the first ten minutes of.....LOL...Ill keep you all posted...Will you all write me in jail?....I can see it now..Bubba says "what you in for?" I say(short fat white dude) "Pirating a uwe boll film" Bubba then proceeds rape me then shank me. LOLOLOL
haha 9.1 has a great point. Thank god I stay away from that chumps movies.
I guess those 3 or 4 Americans who download German indie movies are totally screwed now
for now, then the movie studios buys this software and use it themselves
They could do like DirecTV and just demand have you pay $XXXX for using illegal access card devices or go to court. Most peeps just paid the $3000.
Thats alot of German indy movies!
What if your downloading movies of a website? and not using a torrent program?
Bring it on.. . . Torentszzzz
Yeah, Africans have AIDS, and genocide instead. What a lucky continent.
Australia has laws in place but as yet not a single person has ever been prosecuted for DL stuff... And plus we don't have aids/genocide here like Africa lol... All good for us Aussies... Cheer up mates.
It's not just the US This kind of thing is becoming a big part of UK Law and EU law soon Its happening all over, they are really taking action against Pirates. But, fear not, I am sure that people will still find a way.
This is a risk every downloader takes when downloadnig something illegal so how is this news ?
I love German indy films... Not.
I wasnt aware that people said "not" anymore...
Pfft, who the hell watches German Indy movies.
Everytime i see news like this i get inspired to pirate even further. Arggghhh maties.
i'm a pirate and love it....lol...damn my parrot just flew off my shoulder...lol
*Tumble weed blows through a dusty street*
lolololol @ the tumble weed comment
hmm i think im gonna dl some German indy films just for the hell of it. :)
Torrents just are not safe these days over in uk with 3 strike and your out rule there basicaully montioring peer to peer coming from your adress and if theres high amount they send letter warning you they suspect you of illegal filesharing. and other thing is there only really going after people that upload the material not downloads waist of time and goverment spending wont really solve the problem megaupload rapishare way better and faster and safer servers are hosted in places where theres to piracy laws or little of so no one have any legal obligation to ask who has been downloading what contennt they only can ask them remove the content.
good thing I use rapidshare. :D
I heard Rapidshare is cracking down on their illegal content to "separate" themselves from the competition. However they wont be suing anyone, just removing illegal files and terminating account holders who upload illegal content. They'll be doing it on a much larger scale now, and I think they may be working with some big name movie and music companies to host paid file downloads or w/e. They also stopped their rewards program to reduce the incentive of illegal upload activity.
Who downloads movies? :| Watching them online is faster. xD
one word torrentflux ^_^
"Hey, our profits are down." "Why?" "Because our movies are sh!t and we charge such a high price for EVERYTHING." "We can't admit that. That would show that we are who we really are: greedy douchebags." "I'M NOT A GREEDY DOUCHEBAG! Uhh...well...we do need to fix this somehow so I can get another solid gold Humvee." "Yeah, I know. That Diamond studded swimming pool I want won't grow on any tree in my 500 acre backyard. Need some way to make money. HEY! I got it! You know about that Bittorrent thing people use? Tens of millions of people are using it." "Yeah, I think so...no, what is it?" "People can download movies, games, music, porn, whatever they want." "Isn't that illegal or something?" "There's too much gray area they can use. I downloaded some Metallica off of it last night, actually." "Hmm! I got a friend in the Pentagon that I can get to 'influence' some people in the court system to make people see it our way. You're safe, of course." "What are you gonna do?" "Lot of gray area, right? That's how we make money. Sue everyone, other than you--and maybe me, I would love to see that Hot Tub Time Machine movie myself--and try to mold the law to fit our view." "That'll never work, though. Copyright laws have protections for the consumer." "My friend is a Republican-slash-tea party person that voted against health care reform." "OHHH! Then things will go over just fine." "We'll get that money in no time." "Good thinking."
that very thing was probably said in some way somewhere in a board meeting. It is disgusting how the capitalistic society operates. Reason and logic do not apply, rather, dollars and cents take center stage.
move to canada... good folks that made bit will have someone follow their foot steps and make something that will beat this system, and the war will rage on =/
If I had enough money to be worth all this trouble suing, I'd buy my movies
i use rapidshare, dont like torrents me too risky.