Sony: Market Share Is "Not That Important"

With damage control in full effect, the company's European honcho David Reeves is playing it safe. He says Sony's next-gen goal is not conquering the industry. This console war is about growing.

[shotty]

I can't believe he said that. He was probably one of the bunch of sony people that got fired last week

[Lionel Hutz]

This story reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George tries to get fired by doing such things a streaking in a body suit at a Yankees game and driving around with the Conference trophy attached to the bumper of his car while insulting the "front office morons." Seriously, what was he thinking? Why would they be happy with 40%? He must have thought that 15% growth statement was really smart. Here's a statement for your future years Reeves, "Hey buddy, got a quarter?" - Ned Flanders.

[FadeToBlack]

With a price like that the PS3 and the titanic will have alot in common....

[xX OOH RAH Xx]

LOL!!!

[xX OOH RAH Xx]

LOL!!!

[schnodder]

looks not good:

http://www.theinquirer.net/...

[Lucas Kane]

when was the inquirer an accurate source in the first place. By showing us a diagram which was basically done in an Adobe. right! the developers will write something like "... this is not a typo!)"!!! on the spec sheets for the RSX and cell !! That guy who is written the article is a hardcore sony hater. When has he written a positive comment on the ps3 in the first place. Plus it was this site that claimed that the RSX is slower than the 7800 gtx, when nvidia themselves said that rsx is more powerful than the 7900 gtx! that site is one phoney piece of sh!t!!

[schnodder]

Don't get me wrong ... I hope it's not true!

[Master of Menace]

Exactly what damages are Sony trying to control here? They've already got 50% of the market, and a big lead over its nearest competitor Microsoft. I think it's pretty obvious they know what they are doing. Microsoft on the other hand are spending billions to try to bridge the gap, as if it will help. The fact is Sony's PS3 will sell millions regardless of any market plan. OK, lets look at the price tag, it's not cheap. But it's going to be a true stand alone multi-media system, unlike the XBOX 360 which requires a add-on to play HD movies (this add-on is not going to be cheap). Should I mention the 360's design flaws such as monster power supply, noisy drive,substandard DVD, lack of connectivity etc. Then there's the crashes. If anyone's dropped the ball it's Microsoft. Don't think just because they launched early they'll win this contest. Whatever XBOX 360 sells, you can double the PS3 sales. The majority of gamers are over the age of 25, and they trust the Playstation brand. They can also afford this system. Hell, I know can. Kiddies need not apply.

[slugg]

Please read other forums, Sony ones, Microsoft ones and Nintendo ones. I own a PS2, an Xbox, and a 360. I had planned on getting a PS3 as well, for the following reasons: 1. Included Blu-ray. At first, Blu-Ray seemed like a no-brainer to win the HD battle. But as time has gone on and I've read more articles about the whole Blu-Ray vs. DVD thing, I realize that the whole "Battle" won't be decided for years, and including Blu-Ray in the PS3 won't help Sony win this battle. As for the HD DVD add-on for the 360, I bet it is less than $200.00, which makes a premium 360 plus this drive the same as the $600.00 PS3. Reason #2- exclusive games. But, Sony will not have as many exclusives this time. Launching second, any company making a next-gen game, with all the consts that entails, can't help but look at the 5.5 million 360's already out their, possibly even the 10 million MS claims by PS3 launch. It makes FAR more economic sense to make a game for both systems and release it at the same time (a la "Grand Theft Auto 4") or make one version, then port it over to the other machine as soon as the first version releases (a la "Assassin's Creed"). Then, when Killzone 2 and Devil May Cry 4 were not at E3, and some games like Motor Storm were no where near as good as last years videos, I realized the PS3 probably won't be worth the money.

Like I said, I am not the only one who is now disillusioned with Sony. Their reach has exceeded their grasp. All the lies they have told or times they have reversed themselves add up to a company that has lost their way. I hope they can pull things together and get the PS3 out this year, because competition is good for everyone. By the way, Sony has 0% of the next-gen market share, and plenty of gamers over 25 (I am 36) are realizing that the PS3 is not only not worth the money, it is not what Sony promise, either. Also, historically (there is an article on IGN about this, I believe) Sony has a far WORSE reputation for customer service that Microsoft. I personally haven't had any trouble with my 360. I wish you would explain your "lack of connectivity" comment, as well, because connecting to xbox live gives you access to online gameplay, downloads, extra content, free demos, etc. Using a PSP as a $300.00 rear-view mirror for a racing game to claim "connectivity" is a joke. And finally, Microsoft has seemed to listen to their customers/fans since the beginning. Original xbox controller too large? Here comes the controller S. Free game demos on live? O.K., here you go. Background downloading on the 360? On its way. On the other hand, I don't think Sony listens to consumers, instead, they try to tell us what they want.

Finally-- here's the deal. No one knows what will happen with the PS3 because it isn't out yet, but the one ABSOLUTE FACT I can tell you from personal experience is this-- most of the people who come into/call the videogame store I manage and want to reserve a PS3 (which we aren't doing yet) want to do so so that they can sell it on ebay and "make a ton of money like with the 360 last year."

Interesting times ahead...

[TheMART]

Guys face it Sony gets owned big time

[clayton]

When you are begging Microsoft for a loan, remember folks, Sony has $6 Billion dollars, if they sell 5 million consoles they basically lost half of their money. Whereas Microsoft has $60 billion, they were averaging $2.5 billion in profits in each fiscal quarter even when they were losing money on each xbox sold.

I foresee Sony going under, like Crocodile Dundee.

[Master of Menace]

Firstly,don't believe everything you read in forums. The majority of bad reports are unfounded and are just mud throwing. Some mud sticks. HD-DVD is selling at a fairly slow pace and will not have gained enough ground by the time PS3 comes out. Then once PS3 starts selling you can kiss HD-DVD goodbye. Because PS3 plus Blu-ray will be a top seller, and the majority will have Blu-rays. The XBOX add-on will become obsolete in a very short space of time. If you search "THE UNLUCKIEST OF XBOX 360 OWNERS", you will understand that most of those 5.5 million XBOX 360's you speak of are repair jobs, being sent back to customers up to 5 times. I challenge anyone to read that article including all the related comments, and then still buy an XBOX 360. If you do, you deserve what you get. Disillusioned with PS3?, there are a lot more people disillusioned with Microsoft. Lack of connectivity includes, NO built in wireless networking, ONLY three USB ports, and NO DVI or HDMI output. Sony has a ton of exclusives and huge support from third party developers. And according to RZ research, the PS3 is still tipped to be the leader end of 2007. I have three PS2's,one I have had for five years(two for my kids), and have never had a problem. I use them to play DVD's and games. I told my friend down the road for 2 years to buy a PS2. He finally bought an XBOX. He had that XBOX for only a year and half, before it stopped working. He now has a PS2. There are people still buying PS2's. In America, I believe the figure is 200,000 PS2's vs 290,000 XBOX 360's/month, not bad for a system that's 6 years old. And that is still a stake in the console wars. All those people must be so disillusioned! So long as Sony can keep up with supply and demand(unlike Microsoft), the PS3 will overtake the 360 in record time. Ok, maybe not record time, but certainly in time. Explain to me, how you can make money pre-ordering PS3, I thought people were disillusioned? Stand back behind your counter and hold on tight, when those pre-orders start coming in, they're going to knock your socks off. Also, I believe Sony had a turnover of 69 billion dollars last financial year.

[Master of Menace]

Strike RZ research that's about potatoes. Check ZDnet research,sorry.

[Master of Menace]

Sales of consoles as of 10/2/06. From ZD Net Technology under console blogs. PS2-101 million; XBOX-24 million; Gamecube-21 million. As you can plainly see PS2 has a much higher installed user base than it's competitors. It adds up to 55% market share. This is what is going to sell PS3's people! Only a small proportion of PS2 owners needs to buy a PS3 to place it in the lead. It doesn't take a genius to work that out. XBOX didn't have any installed base on launch and it managed OK, imagine how the PS3 will go. Imagine!

[user9422077]

you meanw the wii rofl