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I disagree I saw the battle system to RoF and immediately cancelled my pre-order... It looks THAT bad...
battle system in RoF is one of the best. You need to play Demo on JP Store (Playstation). Don't know if JP XBL has it.
They are both great games but I think Final Fantasy XIII is better. It has bar none the best battle system I have ever seen in a RPG. It's fast, Furious, Frantic and fun while still having the need for strategy(it's not a game to button mash on in the later portions of the game). Resonance of Fate is a great game and I love the customization and it also has a pretty decent battle system(Playing the JP demo doesn't help AT ALL unless you can read Japanese I tried and it just did the same thing over and over and from the demo I would not have bought it). If I had to say it's like RoF is a B+ game while FFXIII is a AAA game. Even if you don't like the new changes in FFXIII it's obvious the game is a top notch game. It's not for everyone but then again neither is RoF.
I doubt we are playing the same FFXIII I'm in Chapter 12 and all i did is use auto battle, even agaisnt bosses.
played the japanese demo (took a while to understand what to do i don't speak or read Japanese) but i thought the battle system was great everything else though (except the humour and customization) didn't appeal to me. Maybe when it drops in price i'll consider it. Till then i have FFXIII to beat.
If you're only doing auto-battle you're missing out on half of what the characters can do. Each character gets a special ability at level 9 of the crystarium on the job they're most adept at. You can probably mash buttons in every game to just make it to the end. But if you are really playing games because you enjoy games, that is never true.
I like FFXIII's new battle system. It's pretty similar to Legend of Legaia's battle system which I liked. I just wished it was more customizable like being able to create my own preset of moves.
@Gun_Senshi Yes you will use Auto Battle alot however it's not what people are referring to when they say the game needs strategy. You need to be constantly switching your Paradigms and the game doesn't do that for you nor does it tell you which ones you need. Further in the game you will be switch the paradigms tons of times each battle and that makes it so you are constantly doing stuff. Even further in the game(Chapter 13 and post game play) You get abilities that the game doesn't prioritize and you need to make sure YOU input the command to use them if you want to. The Death spell is a perfect example. The game will almost never put that spell in Auto Battle however it is a very useful spell.
I played the japanese demo of RoF but it's kinda crap, specially the graphics. That game has one of the most horrible graphics I have seen this gen! The battle system was something like Valkyrie Profile 2 but with guns... Not that good at all. I didn't like FFXIII either but I think that the game's the best jrpg's this gen (not including Valyria Chronicles because that one is turn based strategy). All the jrpg's this gen have been so so so... Underwhelming.
Yea, RoF has a deep, intricate battle system while half of the game FF13 you can just spam attacks. Graphics don't make the game but FF13 has great, colorful graphics, while RoF has graphics better than they need to be. I would go with RoF any day of the week over FF13, though I will still play both, if only to play FF13 when I don't feel like thinking.
I swear, I would of took FF13 for a ps3 exclusive. It looks that freakin' good, even after playing GOW3! But I don't really like the battle system in this one. it feels like a RPG for beginners after playing all the previous Final fantasy games.
From what I've seen, this game looks REALLY stupid. It seems pretty cool, actually, when you're just shooting your gun like a normal person, but when I see someone do lots of goofy gymnastics, then turn upside down while in mid-air before they pull the trigger...ugh.
Didn't get this game (the battle demo kind of scared me off), but from reviews, this is the current gen's purest JRPG, emphasis on "J", the theme and culture of the game just seems too foreign to me. Battle system is made for hardcore RPG fans, not casual friendly at all. So yeah, this game is not for the majority of gamers.
But then again i've never seen its battle system ... will check on youtube right now then edit I guess... :) Edit: Looks good ... the weapon customization looks nice ... and the battles are kinda crazy looking. Something new for a change. This game seems to be going in the right direction for the sake of all RPGs. It has TOWNS!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I however am enjoying FF13 and have zero desire to play Resonance of Fate. I have seem some gameplay and read some reviews and it doesn't seem to be anything special.
If you've the time and money, I'd highly recommend that you try RoF despite your dissatisfaction with The Last Hope (which I plan on playing eventually). I'd compare it to Valkyrie Profile 2, but the battle system is simply more fun. The soundtrack is above average, too.
End of eternity got to potential to be a good series. The characters are funny and the humour is funny as hell. kinda like kill bill and all them Quentin tarantino movies and the Ichi the killers and stuff.
It's these sorts of articles that bring massive flaming and trolling, I'm enjoying XIII, I can see why some people don't like it, from opinions I've seen it's either you love it or you hate it. Resonance of Fate looks great, when I get the money to get a PS3 I'll try it.The battle system looks difficult but it did in FF13 at first and it's easy to use once you get used to it. "Tri-Ace has focused primarily on its battle system and its world and on these grounds, if on no other, Resonance of Fate beats Final Fantasy XII hands down." I think they're thinking of the wrong ff here, LOL TYPO
FTW is your problem? The lack of JRPG is now gone. I am a gamer who bought SO4, WKC, FFXIII and got RoF coming too this week, appart from other games i bought during the months, and I enjoy every bit of them. Its a great time to be a gamer! espically if you love RPGs.
some much FFXII, woops! XIII bashing going on. I just got it and I think its one of the best in the series. Characters, story, world, battle system, everything is top notch! so glad i didn't listen to reviews on this one.
I agree, anytime a new game gets released anymore it's like people rush off to find anything that could be wrong with it unless it's a PS3 exclusive (nothing against the PS3, but you hear people saying multi-plat and 360 titles suck more often than PS3 exclusives) I find Vanille slightly annoying but when you think about what shes been through its sort of her way of trying to make everything all better, and as for people complaining about Hope I honestly don't see the problem, considering what he had went through I think he acted realistically in the situation, if he didn't they would whine about the lack of character development in him.
It is an excellent game I just got to Chapter 11. I saw all the complaints but once I started playing I did't notice them.
What is Raypture talking about? Every time a new game comes out there are articles and topics about why they're better than anything PS3 related. God of War 3 had Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno being "better" before it was even released. Killzone 2 is the preeminent "Our FPS looks better and plays like an arcade game which is better" fire starter. Everything in the world, even ballpoint pens, have something better than Uncharted 2 which was by far the most overrated game ever made and didn't deserve one award, let alone the 20030301 it won. Multi platform and 360 games get the benefit of the doubt more often than not.
who cares if its multi or not? I'm a ps3 and pc gamer and I'm just glad my friends and family with only 360s get to enjoy this game. I really think its a master piece and the reveiws did not do it justice. to much importance is placed on openworld games this gen, sure they are fun but this is room for fallout 3 and FF XIII. Every game doesn't have to be open world. in fact i think the story and character development benefited greatly due to the linearity of FFXIII.
@Biggest I can't comment about uncharted being overrated, since I haven't played it, looks fun though. I'm not talking about graphic wise, I'm talking about gameplay wise, it just seems to me that more often multi-plat and 360 games get torn apart trying to find anything that could be wrong with it, and it's nice to note that most of the time it seems like they haven't played it and have just read a review about it. Lastly I think all of the graphical comparisons in multi-plat games are a stupid thing to do, then you often times have people trying to say one gimped the other, which one is better but they refuse to face the fact that the games will look different on different platforms because they render differently, even if they would natively run without any adjustments to the programming.
Resonance of Fate has a hill to climb to beat FF XIII one of my favourites so far this gen. I am glad Tri ace is trying something new the last 2 Star Ocean games was horrible. I plan to get it soon but I need to start the GOW trilogy first after FF XII.
The Last Hope was such a waste of a great combat system. The environments were forgettable and the characters ranged from annoying to terrible. And then top it all off with an uninteresting story.
You know when someone hasnt really played FFXIII when they tell you theres no side quests. Hello, Cie-th stones and Oerba village off the top of my head And when they tell you that the battle system is too simplified then you know they havent even played past Chapter 2. And when they tell you theres no mindless banter they havent been to Nautilis And when they tell you that theres no chocobo mini games, well they again havent played upto chapter 8, 11 PS - FFXIII GOTY
to be fair ..the chapter 8 is a little not based on chocobos .. Sure they are here but you can get them in gran pulse several hours later to play with ... i personnaly love FF13 ..because square did something new ..and suceeded i mean , switching paradigm left and right during the chapter 10 middle boss ..and i dare you to tell me that auto battle is sufficient ... thunderaga is way more usefull than thunder yet the auto battle doesn't use it because the priority is on chaining combos AND the result is that you've wasted time during your battle. FF13 battle systeme is really flexible ... but some people need to just play the game before making critics ...
I know C8 isnt based on chocos but a large part of it is wandering around away from the action taking in the sights and sounds of Nautilis (I think thats chapter 8 anyway) and theres the NPC banter we know and love from previous FF installments. "I guess the first ride here is crowd surfing" haha Yeah the battle system is what does it for me in XIII, 45 hours in and its still not gotten old. Its like a nice meld of X-2 and XIIs system, I actually enjoy grinding sessions this time around.
Autobattle is sufficient for 0-star battle rankings lol Well, rankings don't really matter that much other than for unlocking themes since you don't really need accrued TP, so someone could probably go through the game after the various characters reunite with just one paradigm shift and auto battle... bosses would just take forever and Tonberries would wipe that person's party out but hey it's possible...
I have no issue enjoying immensely both FFXIII and RoF . And i think most actual jrpg fans do .
Just reading interviews with the Directors and Producers of both games is very insightful to the overall vision they intended to create. Yet, both, after playing over 10 hours of each, certainly feel like a Square Enix & Tri-Ace game. They're both very good. But I think "most" I've heard from and read about, so far, aren't JRPG fans. Both games offer enjoyable contrasts.
People dont always like the same things i for one love world maps but i didnt miss it in ff13 i was into the experience that i didnt care it was the developers vision and i took the game for what it was and its my favorite final fantasy im not going to get into chracters story i could go all day but what got me about XIII is gran pulse and the battle system really blew me away.
I'm only in chapter 4 and I can see the potential that the battle system has....it does require a great deal of strategy still and it's more fast paced than the turn based systems of old. Resonance of Fate doesn't really appeal to me at all but to those it does appeal to will enjoy it I'm sure
Resonance of Fate is the only JRPG I've liked this gen but I didn't think others liked it too. Good news.
hmmm, not to me, i dislike the setting and art style of this game. FF13 may be linear, but at least its interesting to look at.
"Tri-Ace has focused primarily on its battle system and its world and on these grounds, if on no other, Resonance of Fate beats Final Fantasy XII hands down" I'm assuming the article meant XIII lol. Well I haven't played RoF yet, but I'll probably be picking it up with a price drop. From the few reviews I've read though, the battle system does get some praise (and simultaneously, the lack of tutorials to cover its complexity gets bashed), so I don't doubt that RoF's battle system may well be more complicated than FFXIII's. Complicated doesn't necessary mean better though... I rather liked XIII's paradigm shift and the fast pace of battle. People who like to micromanage and fight more efficiently to get 5-star results are allowed to, and people who like to sit back to autobattle are accounted for as well. And despite RoF's perhaps more strategic battle system, it seems more turn-based in that wasting time considering one's next move isn't penalized, and I'm not sure I like that aspect since it doesn't convey the real-time pressure of combat as much (just like the traditional FFs). Well, in the end, battle system isn't really that important to me as long as it doesn't become annoying. And I've heard good things about RoF's character cast, so I'll be looking forward to the game.
I have to pick up a new PS3, my Original 60Bc died tonight, I was playing XIII and just bought Heavy Rain. I'm so sad, going to see about repair but depending on the price it looks like I will be getting a new slim. Anyone no if it's possible to get my saved games off the old HDD? This is upseting me the most. I put in like 50+ Hours. :(
I'm currently enjoying RoF; it might be my favorite console JRPG this gen. The battles are fun, great difficulty, funny and lovable characters and so much freedom like customization. I'm having lots of fun customizing my weapons and dressing up the lovely Leanne. I'm going to rent FFXIII in the summer, but I'm afraid to after playing RoF. It's going to feel so restricted and a step down to RoF since the dungeons are just a piece of string. All you have to do is move forward for the first 20 hours.
@Homicide Yeah I have FFXIII and played some RoF to make a conclusion.RoF is much more refined in combat and script.I regret purchasing FFXIII deeply.I should have picked up RoF instead -_-
Once you enter the dungeons, and reach the connected battlegrounds that lead to the treasure your fetching (and the boss to cap it off)...it's the same thing as FFXIII. You run into enemies, and there's a token treasure or two in every other battle. Except, in RoF, you can't preempt the enemy or try to avoid them (besides fleeing the battle room, which the entrance isn't always right behind you). However, the world map of RoF offers more freedom, but even in it you can't do anything extraordinary. As for FFXIII, think about it this way: Did you enjoy FFVII and FFX? Then you're probably going to like XIII.
I'm going to hate it then.
Listen, these endless reviews for FFXIII and handful of Resonance of Fate reviews will not change your mind until you play both. As an RPG fan, both offer distinct styles for virtually everything except that they both share---surprise, strategy in their battle systems! One feels, looks, and sounds like a Toriyama-directed Final Fantasy, and the other generally feels like a Suguro-directed Tri-Ace game. Both offer respective originality. I could go on, but you won't be convinced until you try them both. Their both awesome so far, for what they offer, and RPG fans should be salivating right now (not to mention Strange Journey, Infinite Space, etc). If you intentionally spite these games for that sake then you must not like RPGs.
I agree, reviews are nothing to go by, because at the end of the day they are opinions, a good review would be more like this I didn't like the battle system, but heres why you may like it, and heres why I didn't like it, with all points in graphics story etc, games are even more varied than movies with things, where one person may think one game is the best thing ever, another may think it's garbage that was the biggest waste in funds ever, this is something reviewers need to do in playing both sides of the fence, instead of just using their opinion.
Both games are outstanding and offer a wealth of content for each individual who loves Jrpg's. I Beat FFXIII the other day and loved it for what it was. I just started CH 4 in Resonance of Fate and so far I'm loving every min. of this game. I like my RPG's to be complex like Demon Souls or the Shin Megami Tensei series. I like FF games for their story driven gameplay and medium strategy. I have always seen FF games after 9 as the same as EA games today....after the greater graphical realism improvements and not so much in the depth department. Whatever!!!, If you don't play any of these great titles this year you might as well stop playing RPG's all together or go back to COD..you know who you are....Lol!! now go and play something and get the F**k off this site.
I own both games and ROF is spending more time in my PS3. I was on Chapter 10 of FFXIII and I got burned out playing it. I'll probably come back to it down the road (during summer probably) but I'm really enjoying ROF. I'm on Chapter 5 and the characters have been fairly entertaining and likable, the battle system has a fairly steep learning curve, and the only thing it doesn't have that FFXIII does is the huge production values. I would easily recommend ROF/EOE to any JRPG gamer who wants something new AND familiar.
Im really liking both games. ROF has been beat up in the reviews (even more than FFXIII perhaps due to the "this is not for everybody" issue). ROF has an interesting art design, soundtrack, wickedly strategic battle system...and the humor...well...This game is VERY Japanese. FFXIII, has some bright spots too. Absolutely beautiful enviroments. The reviews did not express that enough. Good soundtrack. Great character design. A new spin on battle....its less about the selection of action and more about the selection of roles. You cannot mash x without a shift (probably many shifts) and win. You will lose, and lose fast. Yes its linear, yes the pacing is a little rough there for awhile, but finally oh yes finally it does open up to become an RPG like we know it. Both different, solid, JRPG (in the true sense) experience. Neither hit legendary status though. On a side note, does anybody else almost (I said ALMOST) hate Chapter 11 because it gives you a glimpse on just excellent FFXIII could have been?
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