Sony manufactured the PS3 Slim at a cheaper price than that of the normal PS3. Microsoft could very likely be borrowing the idea to keep things reasonably priced without losing money.
Not sure I want a slim 360, it's already small enough + slim RROD is a no-no.
I'm hoping that with a Slim MS corrects some of the design flaws that they have so far been unable to fully correct. Plus, if the rumor of a price tag of $149 is true, I could not pass it up.
Do you really think MS will come through on hardware? They may drop the price but I doubt it'll be any more reliant. It would be a good move for PR as MS seems to be deserting its hardcore following in aim of taking Wii's success by force and what better way to do it than pretending that it's a completely new console? Sounds like MS PR to me. Either way a price drop is good news in any sense. Means you waste less money when it RRODs.
but how quickley everyone forgets how reliable and sturdy the first xbox was compared to the ps2. They screwed up big time rushing the 360 to market, but who is to say how long they have been researching a slim re-design. The PS3 has been incredibly reliable, the ps2, had 3 of them, the ps1 had 2 of them, were not so reliable, so things can change.
Exactly, the Xbox was rock solid. I have no doubt that they can build a sturdy piece of hardware but I am by no means convinced that they will actually do it.
Yeah, people are quick to label MS as unreliable when just last gen it was the other way around. The problem with the 360 was that MS wanted to release before Sony to get the headstart and that lead to them overlooking the hardware. It was a foolish oversight, but MS is capable of making good hardware, as proven with Xbox 1. The PS2 on the other hand was the more notorious victim to hardware issues. If the Xbox slim rumors are true then I'll have to wait for it. I want Reach and a cheaper 360 as I do not like the idea of dropping $300 for another console so soon. Also, as it has been proven, Sony didn't start the slim concept, it has been around for many generations @357 Yeah, exactly, MS has to earn my trust. I never adopt consoles right away no matter what as issues may tend to exist. MS screwed up with RRoD, and though it was a seemingly easy error they made they have to prove to me that they are more cautious. BTW, u and flow have a similar avatar pic :P Oh, and if they do release a slim 360 I want it separate from Natal so its cheaper. I really don't care for motion control, and I hope MS, if they make a slim, have separate SKUs at varying prices.
why wold MS pay more money on making a slim 360 ?? its not like its not selling or its not like its expensive ?? and the newer models are way better then the older ones so yah i still cant see why but yah if there is any it'll be with NATAL
Why would you make a slim version of an already flawed hardware? Fix it!!!!! I already have to install every game to the hard drive to quiet it down.
I always figured the Arcade was the Slim version as its cheaper and stripped down to the essentials. It will be interesting to see what they announce at E3 since they still need to show off the Natal games they have been working on. Would be funny to see a Just Dance come to Natal.
I don't think any Xbox 360 will be sold without Natal added once it releases. They have said it will be like a new console launch and like the Wii not selling motion separate, The Xbox I doubt will sell without Natal added. I don't think the price of the Xbox 360 will come down either. This way they can add Natal and not have to charge more. Can't wait for E3 to see what the Dev's are up too.
you all must really be retarded to think MS will release a faulty system revision again. The 360 is faulty only because it was rushed and they wanted to be Sony like Alpha said. With the slim, there's no rush nor no reason to be cheap since parts will be cheaper and OBVIOUSLY they don't want the same bad press surrounding it like the 360 did when that launch. It's common sense.
I don't really care for a slim, but a redesigned 360 for me is a must. The current one is built like crap with its 1994 cheap sounding disk tray, overpriced wi-fi adapter and cheap black plastic. It's an eyesore in my entertainment system and they definitely need a nicer one that looks like they actually put some effort into designing it and not just building it as cheap as humanly possible to save as much money on production as they could. Even the Wii has more design quality than the 360. The PS3 and Wii blend in with your entertainment system quite nice and the 360 is like a lingering fart.
Actually the original xbox was also unrealible it just wasnt known about because it only sold 24 million as for the ps2, of course its realbility would be more acknowledged. It sold 140 million consoles.
Xbox slim wont be cheap. Its microsoft only trying to delude ppl. 150usd price for the xbox slim 100usd for the Hd 100usd for the wifi 50usd for live/year +10usd per game console tax Id take a pc anyday.
If it's a slim, there wont be room for rings, so you can ignore the fact that u will get the Red Ring Of Death, you will just get worse errors, internal errors, and less hardware probably means it's going to be easier to hack.
Quit hating.. 360 slim will come out this year and when it does it will increase its lead over the PS3 to 10 million and will pretty much guarantee the PS3 comes in third this Gen.. If that happens consider the PS3 a failure for Sony but still a great gaming console/movie player for gamers! Then in fall 2011 I wouldn't be surprise if M$ comes out with the 720..
If they were to release it, it would hit around september like ps3 slim did! However, I would also expect a bundle for the 360 and Ps3 motion control offerings. It would get ownwer of older consoles to buy newer remodeled ones and give casuals what they want right out the box!
X360 Slim would be a good move by Microsoft. If the X360 Slim after release becomes a reliable console, it would improve the image that the consumers have about the X360. Because of the bad publicity the RROD has produced, lot of people don't buy the X360, not even the recent (more reliable) jasper model. If Microsoft plays their cards wright, it can be a relaunch of the X360 in the entire world (if it's RROD free and reliable). With the addiction of Natal, that's just a bonus .
I may be end up buying it. I hope there's no RRoD this time. 4th time i bought this piece of trash but 149$? No doubts, i will buy it!
Dam you bought this crap 3 times already. I personally know people who have bought xbox 2 times atleast. Then given up gaming on the Xbox all together. Buying the same crap 4 times over will be epic, thought console gaming was supposed to be cheap.. nvm.
Why does everyone think Microsoft sucks so bad at hardware? Yes the 360 has problems that all seem to stem to the initial design (thus difficult to correct) but does anyone remember any problems with the original xbox? The thing was a tank. You couldn't break it if you wanted to. It was very very high quality and never had issues. Does one generation automatically make a company crappy at hardware? If so, was Sony crappy at hardware when everyone and their mother were getting DRE's from the PS2?
There should be no reason at all for you to have bought 4 360s. The warranty on them is 3 years. You either didn't bother with the warranty and just bought another or your systems were hacked and thus voided your warranty. Which is it?
usa /= to the world in many regions microsoft warranty is not valid. good luck trying to get a xbox repaired in the middle east, your only bet is getting a new one.
Still just a rumor but if they do set the prices lower they will win the console war.
with their "slim" 360
So it's like a Xbox 360 1.5 I don't really care if they do release a new Xbox 360 But me and everybody else, We already have a Xbox and if we switch to the Slim version cuz our old model will maybe RROD someday or stop working... Now that's the big question Will it be compatible with our current xbox 360 HDD? Will they have a slot for it ? See Microsoft, we get screwed all the time Atleast Sony PS3 we can swap any 2,5 inch HDD
I would actually buy a 360slim even though I already own a 360. I just cant stand that hardware, its big, noisy, ugly and it has a power brick thats so big it needs its own fan. Then I might enjoy gaming on my 360 a little more. I own a fat PS3 and have no intention of geting a PS3slim as the hardware is already first class.
I think it's be a great step against RRoD and other design flaws. I got my 360 back from MS in Jan after an RRoD and it's already begining to stop reading games. If they do push an slim out, i'mma chuck this one and see if i can afford it down the road
In this case US does = world. http://184.108.40.206/search... "Microsoft Corp. today announced that it will expand its GLOBAL Xbox 360™ warranty coverage" So my statement stands. Anyone who has said they purchased multiple 360s because of red rings either lied, was an idiot and didn't use their warranty, or hacked their system and voided their warranty in which case I don't feel bad for you at all.
A slimmer model would be great to coexist with its Natal product since it'll entice potential buyers even more. If this is true then I would probably get one myself if all things go well with the hardware. They will benefit with somewhat of a relaunch of the 360 while at the same time market there new gimmick.
Agreed. The opportunity is too great, this is definitely happening.
Don't like slims they get overheated quickly, I'll just stick with my 360.
And with your comment you win the Kelso Award of the day!
How the hell do slims overheat when they are made from smaller electronics that produce less heat. My ps3 slim is so much cooler an quiter than the original models its not even worth comparing. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1...
Sony products have been good for me, I own several of them. I don't reward companies like Microsoft, who knowingly put out a faulty product, nickle and dime people to death, with my money. I stick to what has been good to me and it isn't Microsoft.
The article isn't about a specific game and it even mentions Sony in the beginning. As a consumer I'm betting Microsoft would like me to check out articles about their product so yeah, I'm in the XBox section reference this post.
"I don't reward companies like Microsoft, who knowingly put out a faulty product" I take it you never owned a ps2.
My 360 shakes the crap out my desk when I turn it on and it's very, very loud.
yeah hope so, when i played my 360 a week ago for the first time in 8 months i thought there was a fighter jet about to take off, its so damn loud even after i installed games, then the day i tried to play halo sservers were down......so i called MS complained and said "its ok i will just play my ps3" lol it was funny and mean and childish, but i didnt care haha
SMART MOVE MICRO$0FT, BUT NO THANKS
Just a thought, now the can sell you a whole new set of slim add-ons as well. slim wifi adaptor, slim hdd, hell you might even need slim plug-n-play for the controller. One more thing when Playstation 3 slim came out the bots called it a desperate attempt to boost sales, is it the same thing when MS does it, or is it another brillant move.
Too late Microrape ;)
I highly doubt MS plans to introduce a slim model. This is just fanboy dribel. They really couldn't make the thing any cheaper if they wanted to. Kinda sick on seeing these articles - there is no basis for them.
"Xbox360 slim most likely to be released with Natel" ah no shyt!
I wonder if there will be articles like " ...a little too late for a slim " ?just like when the ps3 slim was announced.
Yeah, "PS3 Slim: Too Little, Too late" was it? I wonder where are those articles now.
I wonder whats gonna happen when Microsoft launches Natal+slim+price dropped consoles later this year? We can expect that sony will launch Move+slim ps3 combo's but will they reduces thier price too. It can be argued that the success they've had in the past 7 months is directly related to thier 2009 price drop. At this point the effect of it are wearing off and history shows us that when the x360 is significantly cheaper than the ps3 it outsells it for lengthy periods following price drops. So will sony or will sony not cut thier price too to maitain any momentum that they had? Aslo as far as system sellers and exclusives sony has shot a major portion of its wad bye releasing GOWIII and FFXIII in the beggining of the year what will they have for the fall and christmas that are true system sellers? Microsoft on the other hand is setting up Halo Reach to be it's fall system seller...I can't wait to E3 to see what these 2 giants are up too.
Sony just can't afford to cut prices as they are still very far in the red. It seems that this fall may get a little ugly for Sony when MS releases the slim and Natal.
GT5 says hello. Nobody knows what Sony has so stop speculating
First off, MS isn't "borrowing" that idea from Sony as every business in the world that sells products, especially hardware, have many revisions in their product lifespans. As a company is more successful and are more in the black they can re-engineer and get costs even lower. In Sony's case, they didn't have a choice- they had to reduce cost and offer what appeared to be a new product to save themselves. MS has repeatedly stated they will continue to reduce costs and sell cheaper. ExPresident, do us all a favor and drop your slander into the Open Zone, then move to Japan if you are so happy with Sony.
Id like to see both the console makers drop the 10-15usd per game tax. Now that will be a true cut in prices. After that they may as well stick to selling both the consoles to 350-400usd would be just fine.
bring on the slim now so we can see if it has problems like rrod,dont wonna go thru rrod on the holiday season?
Sony HAD to release the slim to kick start the PS3 as it wasn't selling at the price of the original fat. Even now the 360 is cheaper than the PS3 slim, and people on here are saying that if Microsoft released a slim version of the 360,EVEN cheaper than it is now and bundled it with Natal it wont sell....it would sell don't worry about that.
Tell us something we don't know! lol I think M$ will be selling them for $175...
Less hardware and less power consumption to bring a more effective console without having malfunction problems like YLOD or RROD (cause of its complex hardware)and with a cheaper price than the older versions it brings tecnology to whole new level! PS3 as already a Slim and thats very remarkable ill tell you that.
Just make the dvd drive silent and put the power supply unit inside the console. It's a nuisance
so, no shrunken die sizes? adding more components and heat in the form of a PSU inside the case? lol, sorry but that would be moving in the wrong direction.
Microsoft have mostly fixed the rrod issues with the new Jasper models. It took them long enough but the reason they would bring out a slim version would be to reduce costs and to make the console look more appealing and attractive. It would be funny if instead of announcing the slim at E3, they surprised everyone and announced the Xbox 3. I would expect it if Natal wasn't coming out at year end. Gears 3 will be their big announcement at this year's E3. Though it wouldn't be too surprising. I think they will announce a surprise exclusive game from an already existing franchise. The 360 needs more exclusives badly. Anyway, if Microsoft do release a slim 360, they better make sure it is rrod proof or their heads will be on a plate..
I like how people think the slim is a real thing now just because of a rumor. People will be disappointed when E3 2010 comes.
people keep bringing up the RROD problem. I think MS has done a good job with their Jasper units and RROD #s are way way down, so just stop it!! After my PS3 got the YOLD seems Sony is the one having the problems, and I don't want to hear it's some isolated incident either..about 6 of my friends got the YOLD on their PS3 as well..although I have to say..The problem is more for the older (fattie)models..still Sony no excuse..funny thing tho I just bought another fattie..lets hope this one don't sh!t the bed either...
How could they do a slim model with the HDD the 360 has?
They are most likely going to make the hard drive internal. Notice there is no more receptacle for the current hard drive unit on the "slim 360" motherboard: http://www.joystiq.com/2010... vs. old board: http://www.wired.com/images...
@7.1 it's possible that this mobo design isn't finalized, it could be missing components. we wont know more until a case is revealed. it has two sata ports, one for the dvd and one for the hdd, i could see the new revision supporting old hdds, who knows the case itself might hold the adapter itself via sata cable that runs to the outer wall.
Maybe the Natal Is The Xbox 360 Slim just wanted to say it may be
It's a possibility that Natal is a 360 with the motion camera built-in. I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption. The thing is that it would probably limit where you could put it, ie. it's easier to move a camera from place to place than the whole console. I guess we'll see!
you have a new hardware, but still no games