The first image below is, of course, a picture of the Wii remote and nunchuck. Nintendo has used the image countless times as promotional material.
lol at that gif
Yes, I love the gif.
Sony rip off Nintendo? NEVER! inb4 people who don't understand the difference between ripping off and being influenced by
Well I think the PS1 controller really influenced pretty much all controllers since the PS1 since they all opted for a similar feel... And yeah I feel Nintendo have done the same with motion control... They have laid down a nice standard starting point for other people to build upon and make better and Sony have done just that.
The only thing the PS1 controller influenced was the design for the PS2 and PS3 controllers. The N64 and the PS1 controller both have a similar aesthetic feel (they're more comfortable compared to the SNES controller). If we're getting into button layout, you could argue that the PS1 dual-analogue controller set the trend for future controllers, but this controller only came out after the N64 controller was released, with its analogue stick, an idea which Sony, once again, thieved.
Sorry bro but apart from using an analogue to control the actual the game the controlers were VERY different... Nintendo focused mainly on its A+B buttons with a trigger at the back... Stupid C buttons that make no sense... The actual controler shape was AWFUL! Analogue in the middle? 3 grips? WTF! Then Sony released dual analogue, 4 standard face buttons (snes had this I know) 4 shoulder buttons, 2 grips... The Gamecube comes out Dual analogue, 4 standard face buttons, 3 shoulder buttons (only one shy from the PS design), 2 grips... Sorry but Sony has been leading the way in amazing design for years now... Sony has really influenced Nintendo a lot more than Nintendo has influenced Sony for over 10 years strong... The PS1, 2 and 3 dual shock controllers are considered the standard blueprint for all controlers of its kind (for good reason too... amazing layout)
Natal is all about the software that runs it, not the camera. The camera is nothing without the software. The original PS1 controller's layout is almost identical to that of the SNES controller. Nintendo's been the real innovators.
I'm still surprised people havn't got tired of the wiimote and pS Move comparisions. We've had like 10 articles about them and never have one of them been reported Duplicate
doing this and then we'll talk
saying sonys controller is a ripoff is like saying every touch phone is a ripoff of iphone
That has got to be one the the oddest and most disturbing things I have heard. Ever.
Move got the moves, dudes! It's by far better. And the Wii sucks, guys come on!
Taking something popular and replicating it = FAIL. Taking something popular and improving it = WIN. When you break it all down, yes, the PS Move is an improved Wiimote. But it's a hell of an improvement with the potential to enhance a gamer's experience with some truly great titles. Someone here said it before me and I'll continue to repeat it. Demon's Souls + PS Move = full of Win.
but don't show them to any of the US media, u dont want to see them choke on their own words http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I wonder if people who keep saying this to support Natal fail to realize that Sony is one of the leading photography companies out there, which relies heavily on software capable of doing amazing things in order to make a huge group of people come out clear and free of blur as well as implementing advanced facial recognition and other features. I love that Microsoft is attempting what it is with Natal, but to look at what Sony has done and has opted for something else is not just a sign of their game development, but their years upon years of research with their camera technologies that have lead them to combine their own technology concepts with that of the Wii. All of this camera-based motion technology has been around the Sony house for a century now. None of it is really new, just streamlined for today's console generation. And to say it's a rip off of the Wii? It can seem that way, but when it comes down to it when you're holding a 'wand' in one hand and a subcontroller in the other, good designers will end up with very similar designs because that's what works best for the users, not because they saw what the other team was doing and just copied it. Honestly, though, if anyone has copied off of anyone else it's been Nintendo and Microsoft off of Sony technology that Sony has poorly kept under wraps or marketed. Edit: People have posted some really good videos below of early versions of the Sony Move being shown off in its very early years. Look at those and tell me that Sony copied the Wii in the early 2000s.
But but but but Sony only innovated not imitates!!!! Dudes i admire your dedication to the Sony Brand but come on, it is a complete RIP OFF, no two ways about it
@Gametime: N64 controller had 3 "grips" and the SNES controller also had shoulder buttons. Also, the idea that Sony influenced Nintendo more than Nintendo influenced Sony is quite laughable. Also also, I disagree with your statement that the PS controllers are amazing. I find them to be way too small for any type of hand other than miniature japanese hands. They're uncomfortable as hell. They're one of the reasons I haven't bought a PS3 yet, unfortunately.
@death, I could swear you are one of the people who said "I dont want to wave like a retard".
Your lack of continuity is amazing V_V.
ninty fans: "sony ripped off wii photos!" fact: all ce manufacturers do these product shots proof: http://bit.ly/dDuz3d ninty fans: "sony ripped off motion controls!" sony created 1:1 sword demos in the YEAR TWO THOUSAND proof: http://bit.ly/cRcz86 ninty fans: "sony ripped off the wii games!" fact: sony did every motion game before wii came out proof: http://bit.ly/ateydE sony was ready with the games, ready with the controller, ready with the marketing. it's just that nintendo went ahead and jumped into the blue ocean while sony was still hesitant about the temperature. sony publicly showed their working prototype of Move before Motion Plus even came out. so Move was probably created before nintendo even showed motion plus. remember, everyone complained that the wiimote wasn't 1:1, and that motion controls were nothing more than a bunch of flicks and shakes. it only makes sense, sony criticized it themselves and saw how they could improve on it using tech they already were researching before Wii was even a glint in Nintendo's eye. does nintendo deserve credit for jumping into the blue ocean while sony was still hesitant about the temperature? yes. does sony deserve credit for looking back at all their eyetoy research and software and at the criticisms re: accuracy/precision/depth in the original Wiimote? yes. will nintendo fans ever see it this way though? maybe if they're mature enough. the way i see it most wii owners who want something deeper will all be excited for Move-- if the software can be polished before launch. all this spite and fanboyism isn't going to make you a happier person, so it's time to just grow up and look at the facts and realize that nobody's copying the other blatantly, because the technology and ideas were all shared in the first place.
Great post and lol and those were some HUGE controllers ^.^ i didn't think they had been working on it since 2000 i thought it was around 2003-4 so thx for the info :)
DreamEYE was first.. Even the EyeToy wasn't their original idea. Notice a similarity with the name? They didn't even bother to call it something else. Everything is an evolution of something else these days. It's no big deal, but trying to pretend Sony invented everything and isn't getting influence big time from their competitors is naive and just plain stupid.
it's not even that sony invented it- the point is that nintendo doesn't own the rights to casual games ;)
The Dreameye was a digital camera released for the Dreamcast home video console by Sega. It was designed to be used as a webcam and a digital still camera. Now, can you show me a game that comes with it? Can the Dreameye do what the Eyetoy does? Prove please...
DreamEYE is hardly comparable to the EyeToy. All it did was take pictures and act as a Webcam. It was never implemented with any games and wasn't even released outside of Japan. Let's not try and bring up technology that really isn't comparable here. Of course, I'm sure I'll see about 20 others trying to bring this up in the next week as a way to discount what Sony has done in the last century based on their photo and video technology, which was rolled over into their gaming technology research.
I love it when certain gamers get owned by facts! Good posts, comments, links & proof ~ Kain, Myothercar, goodfellas27 & cgoodno. I have been posting/saying the same thing for YEARS yet those "certain gamers" just don't want to admit it and realize the truth.
You guys showed your proof that the eyetoy came out before the wii. I left a comment on this story (but it is on page 2) All I said was this I'm sure that sony was working on a remote before the PS3 (it may of not look like a wii remote at that time) But you think Nintendo starting working on their right before the wii came out. (they been working on it for a long time) The point in the story is that sony didn't go that way, Nintendo did (now one of them is in 1st and the other is in 3rd) So sony takes some old stuff that had and remakes a wii remote for the PS3. ( The point no mater how many pictures you show, it still looks like a wii remote) Anther thing you are trying to say SONY came up with motion controls 1st 1 thing (Move) is not a eyetoy, 2 go look up a powerglove
It is definitely a step ahead in term of tech, but if that tech isnt applied to games then its going to suck like the Wii.
I liked the controller myself. I liked what the possibilities of it are, over the wii. Playing a game with "MOVE" albeit they were mainly concepts and early proto's, it was a change of pace. And keep in mind, the reps we spoke with at Sony all said this isn't changing the fact that the DS3 is still viable and relevant. Sony made it very clear that they are never going to drop support of the DS3 in favor of... They said that "MOVE" is just another alternative to breath life into older games and usher in a new experience for players. New and old. I agree with that. I like that mindset. I think Sony has a leg up on Nintendo for the simple fact -- 1. It controls better than wiimote. 2. It's more user friendly than the wiimote. 3. It's not the standard controller for the Ps3 unlike the wiimote is for Nintendo's wii. We have a choice with Sony... That's what we walked away with after hands on time with "MOVE". Don't like it, don't adopt it. Simple and clean.
I ain't saying anything :P
You are 360 fanboy, what is your point? Sony has the Move stick already in 2004, what is your freaking point. Nintendo copy the Wand not Sony, there is also proof, you are just ignorant and dumb.
OMG! PS3 controllers and 360 controllers are longer on the x axis! RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!! Macs use a mouse and keyboard!!!!! RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!! All clocks have a longer and shorter hand!!!!!!!!!!! RIP OFF!!! All soft drinks have a cylinder shape! Rip off!!!!!!!!!!!! I can go on...But I won't.
Dude i'm a Sony's Guy. :P
so, my friend's little brother thought the MOVE was a black wiimote. children are so pure minded.
Haha oh Sony.
The Move is a Wiimote rip. Plain and simple.
No, Sony has this device years ago but they choose develop more on this stuff. Wii Mote is complete overrated tech. People like you are the worst, know nothing about the history and act like a ignorant. Your fact is complete wipe out with fairy tales with no proof. ----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ---------- Fierce Musashi - Give some fact otherwise shut up. You got a agree without any proof you got, just wow like that. ----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ---------- Homicide The different is is that Nintendo use from it licentie and they have not develop it, Sony develop his technology himself and also the precision take some time for developing and testing and beside they has some other things in there head.
How long was the Move in development? To my knowledge, around 2004, if I'm not mistaken. The Wiimote was developed around 2001. Like it or not, the final design for the Move is a Wiimote rip. EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... What the hell are you? A fanboy?
@real killer, why did it take Sony so long to release it, and why does it look like a Wiimote? @above, nice ownage.
I'm laughing at you two morons (Fierce_Mushashi and Homicide) as you try to argue for something that was completely and unequivocally torn apart 4 hours above you. It's almost as if you have your eyes set to "Ignore Truth Mega Mode!"
So you think Nintendo saw the PS Move prototype in 2004 and copied it? Why was it release 4 years before the PS Move? Why did it take them so little time to do it? You wanna know how, because Nintendo had this in development much longer than PS Move.
Much like most of the fan idiots on this site, when you can't prove someone wrong you resort to name calling. Why don't you tell Homicide and Fierce Musashi what truth the have ignored before you make yourself look like a total jacka....... Sorry, looks like that ship has already sailed. 7_7
@ ZoidsRaven And this is why the name calling happens. You act stupid, yet want a civil response? What about 4 hours above you doesn't make sense? Try looking above the comments, 4 hours up, and see what I said is FOUR HOURS ABOVE YOU. Comment #2. Not reply to comment #2. Comment #2. There are videos in COMMENT #2, which is 4 hours before comment #10 reply #3 dating back to the year 2000 showing Sony and their wand in conjunction with the PS Eye prototype. There are videos from other dates in years following showing a lot of what is happening now. The next time someone says look at something 4 hours above you, don't read too much into it. Just follow the directions (if they aren't too hard to understand) and claim your prize. Jackass. And to Homicide: No. I don't think anyone stole anything. I don't care who stole what. I just wanted you remind you that ignoring the truth doesn't make your lie correct. Especially when it is 4 hours above you.
Hey sherlock, I didn't say I wanted a "civil response" from you... If you read my post (lol, what was I thinking), you would see I didn't expected a "civil response" at all. But I guess all you got from my post was "SONY IS UNDER ATTACK, IT NEEDS YOUR HELP BIGGEST!", right? No? You tell me. And as for the video (which I have already seen): 1) ........ Really? This is what you come up with? Just think for a minute. Look at that, and now look at the PS3 "Move". While that motion controll in the video looks nothing like the Wiimote, the "move" and Sony's "Nunchuk" rip are copies. Now before you get pissed off again, I just want to let you know that God (Sony) has said it themselves. They were "inspired" by the Wii..... 7_7 2) Now before you eat gun powder again, just continue readng. Can you be so nice as to find that video but uploaded in any year but 2009 or 2010? Why you ask? It gives me real conformation that this motion controller was made when everyone........ Sony says it was made. Can you do this for me without posting like you have the PS3 (fat) shoved up your @**? 3) If you can prove this motion controller was being made when Sony said it was. Then please answer these questions.. You sure can tell me when this wand was being made, but what about the "move"? When did Sony start working on this "move? Couldn't Sony have stoped working on the wand, and started working on the "move" when they saw the Wii? If Sony didn't copy the Wii, why were they "inspired" by it? That's the thing, I already saw the video. Thing is, it doesn't really prove many of the points here wrong. So I didn't really need to do that... I'm a "Jackass", hm? You know...... You are really showing what a touche and sensitive person you become over a simple discussion. I mean, my god. Just look at what we are talking about. What is next? You're going to kill someone in a gamestop over a discussion about consoles? And you have the nerve to say to Homicide "I don't care who stole what", when you obviously do? Grow the hell up. 7_7
They don't look similar at all. The Move controllers are black.
Psssst.....come here, I want to whisper something in your ear.... Keep it down a bit, but I was actually taking the p*ss.....don't tell anyone else though.... ;)
I thought they were gona say dildo XD.
The move looks much more ergonomical. Sony is showing how motion control should be done. It's about time.
Of course it's a ripoff. It's just better designed, more accurate, and doesn't require you to buy new batteries every week.
Would it still be safe to use while it's charging? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
What's that thing between the Wiimote and Nunchuk? Oh...it's a wire...
I hope someone remakes/revives the Battle Clash / Metal Combat Super Scope exclusive series. There's SO MUCH potential in this series that begs for a next gen upgrade. I bet who ever does it first or produces something similar to it will have a huge hit on there hands Here's a some gameplay footage to those that might not be familiar with the games. It may not look like much, but trust me it was so much fun back in the day in versus mode. with player one being on the Super Scope gunner and player two being the robot on screen.
"Sony's PlayStation Move controller looks a little familiar…" Careful, I believe that's the sentence that got Senator Roy Ashburn found out.
"How long was the Move in development? To my knowledge, around 2004, if I'm not mistaken. The Wiimote was developed around 2001" Yes, i know that already, but this is only on paper not hardware related yet, further more Sony develop 3 years early with sensor capture controls or Cam tracking sensors. and they already have the hardware, 1998 Sony has the prototype let alone when they had on paper, maybe 1995? Now, let me see some prototype Wii Mote from 2004. "Like it or not, the final design for the Move is a Wiimote rip" It's not what i liked, it's that you give people false information. EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... "What the hell are you? A fanboy?" What make you think that?
"What make you think that?" Because you're constantly defending Sony, calling other people fanboys and spewing BS. Just face it. PS Move = Wiimote with a bozo the clown nose on top. @below: http://gen16.com/wp-content... PS Move: http://www.youtube.com/watc... WiiSports: http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
"Because you're constantly defending Sony, calling other people fanboys and spewing BS. Just face it. PS Move = Wiimote with a bozo the clown nose on to" Do you know between defending a company and lies from you without any proof meanwhile i get the proof? I was proving that Sony way earlier develop motion sensors than Nintendo and if you keep posting with pictures that PS Move and the Wii Mote is the same and a copy than you are also trolling here. You are post things what i called trolling. You keep going with copy without any proof.
@Homicide And a fanboy couldn't have said THAT any better, right? Careful what you say next time and save yourself the embarrassment. btw copying the competition/opposition is a fact of life in business, war, technology, politics etc. Get over it and enjoy the games, controllers etc, and stop being fanboyz
I'm interested to know the source of this information, if you will. I figured they would have the tech, but this is about the Wii mote and Move and which was to be first for console gaming. And this isn't about motion controls in general either. >>>>>>>&g t;>>Sony said it themselves that they were inspired by the Wiimote.<<<<<&l t;<<<< If you know Nintendo, you would know that they are heavy on secrets and don't reveal stuff like that until near launch. "What make you think that?" Lets see, you came at me worse than an ill mannered politician and it wouldn't be surprizing considering this site has somewhat of an infestation.
It doesn't look familiar. It looks better.
Hardly. Looks as original as the Vii.
In terms of experience( not graphics) I can say that Metroid Prime3: Corruption is one of the top 10 games I have played on this gen and it is a Nintendo Wii game !! I had so much fun iwth the Wii remote that if I can get that same experience again but now to play games such Killzone3, Resistance 3, Rage ,GT5... OMFG !! I LOVE YOU SONYYYY ! YOU( PS3) Reallt does every thing !!! Now I will say bye bye to my Wii, it will be disconnected from my TV and I will put it in a closet and will only get it again IF the new Zelda game is indead THAT worth playing.
Move is ideal for shooters that require quick, precision aiming - which most shooters do. KZ3 might be frustrating for Move users, if it has the same controller lag used in KZ2 for weighty realism.
Looks like the ps3 is just doing what they're doing best this gen and copying successful features from other consoles. Achievements and trophies, SIMS and Home, and now this? Has the ps3 brought anything new to the table???