Will PlayStation Get The "Real" MGS Titles, While "New Generation" Work Go Multiplatform?

Kojima does not shy away from his twitter account. He loves it and has been tweeting many things, including things about Metal Gear Solid: Rising and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walking, saying that the former is created by a "new generation" and "will create new users" while the latter "is made by Hideo Kojima, a new but classical MGS".

[immortal84]

is more attached to the PS brand i guess.

[mjolliffe]

But he wants more people to experience the series - hence the decision to take it to PSP and Xbox 360 - so the PS3 isn't going to be a lone exclusive for a while I don't think.

A great franchise either way :)

[captain-obvious]

well
he did take the true MGS to the PSP with the original MGS team
and left the spin-off multiplat to a new blood with no experience and no talent
heck it even on PC

so i dont know i think that MGR is just to get some cash

[dangert12]

if your only going to give use raiden and not solid snake it shows you are not commited to the platform...i would much rather play conviction

[Cenobia]

MGS should be over.

They should have started a new Metal Gear series with different characters in my opinion. They wrapped it up pretty nicely, so I don't understand why they're keeping it going (besides the money they'll make).

Give the Metal Gear series to someone other than Kojima (freeing him from the hell that is an eternity of sequels) and start something new.

[vhero]

@mjolliffe no he doesn't that's why he's not working on rising and doesn't want anything to do with it. However he has to put on a face as He doesn't own MGS he just invented it. I feel sorry for him in that way although its his baby he has no control over it. He could retre and leave the company and they could still pump out new MGS games without him.

[Darrius Cole]

@Vhero

I thought Kojima retains a certain amount of control over all things Metal Gear.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

I'm saddened to see that Japanese developers don't embrace western consoles. It seems we all buy Asian products, but almost nobody over there buys western products.

[AAACE5]

That doesn't make sense! Why would they leave a game in the hands of a team with no experience or talent? You just sounded bad man!

Peace walker isn't as big or demanding ad MGS 4 was, so logically speaking, they split the team that made MGS 4 and sent them on different projects.

In other words, the team creating Rizing knows what the game should be like!

You should change your name, because that was so "OBVIOUS" i'm surprised you didn't catch it! :)

@Pennywise 2.3

I don't remember where I read it (I think on N4G) but kojima himself made the comment about bluray not having enough space to make the game he wanted to play! I remember cause people were making jokes about other disc formats like HVD and said the 500 Gb's would still make Kojima complain there wasn't enough space!

I don't know if you want to go looking for it, but that article was made before the game came out.

[-MD-]

future entries on the 360 will be based on how well Metal Gear Rising sells.

[movements]

You have a good point Murderdolls...

[THC CELL]

Mgs 5 will be a ps3 exclusive

MGr is a spin off

I want peace walker on ps3

[Pennywise]

Disc size was still a problem with MGS4 and bluray. Please explain your rational? MGSR is a spin off... like most spin offs it probably won't be accepted into the MGS hall of fame, but only time will tell.

[Motion]

I'm not sure if the gameplay style of MGS Rising has been announced yet, but based on the way Raiden fights, I'm assuming this game will be a metal gear spin off with gameplay similar to ninja gaiden. I could be completely wrong, but if you played MGS4, you know he's a ninja. After all, the game has the tag line "Lightning-bolt action", as opposed to the traditional "Tactical espionage action".

[BYE]

If Microsoft wants this, they shouldn't use dated PC parts next gen.

[starvinbull]

That they would make a new MG based on Raiden demonstrates that they have obviously been bought.

When M$ anounced it they said guess what MGS is coming to 360! it was clearly a money oriented attempt to get a top PS brand even if only in name.
The part where I say "in name" is important because Halo ODST is a new Halo in name only, FF13 isn't the same as the PS3 version but as far as M$ are concerned they have nabbed the same game.

That is how they have fought this so called console war, by attempting to wear the clothes of Sony chipping away at every reason to own a PS3.
Wouldn't it be better that they focus on their first party studios and foster new IPs rather than constantly looking over their shoulder.

I would personally be much more likely to buy a 360 if all the money spent on getting multiplatform releases out of Sony intended exclusives were instead spent on top quality 360 exclusives. How many games of Uncharted 2 or God of War 3's budget and ambition could have been made for the hundreds of millions plowed into bribing companies to include them. Even worse much of the money has been spent not on getting games onto their own system but merely to prevent multiformat content from appearing on the PS3 for large periods of time.

[vhero]

Exactly Madden MS are a blight to the console industry. Which is a shame as their console is good it's just a shame its owned by such a bunch of money grabbing morons.

[DevastationEve]

Xbox 360 does not have "dated PC parts". It's actually a very forward-thinking design, as all graphics processors have gone unified since the Radeon HD 2xxx series and later the GeForce 8 series. PS3's RSX gpu is actually closer to the 7 series of prior standard shader array equipped gpus.

On topic, MGSR is going to be where MG can take a new direction. "Lightning Bolt Action" doesn't exactly mean that they're going to ditch the MG style. Personally I would think ninjas would use stealth too, DUH! It could mean the he'll have a more deadly melee style than the simple punch and kick moves Snake had.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

my guess is that If Rising Performs great on Xbox360(which we all know will do great) they'll either

release the next MGS game on both PS3 , Xbox360.

or MGS5 on PS3 and Rising 2(wild guess) on both PS3,X360,

[Redempteur]

are you sure about that ?
rising is not sure to be a hit on 360

[Baka-akaB]

the way i see it , if Rising is a success , it will simply have a sequel on multiplatforms .

But the future main MGS title will remain a ps3 exclusive for disk space reason alone .

OR if "MGS5" wont see the light till the next generation of consoles , then with the next xbox most likely dealing with its disk space issues , then it will become multiplatform .

[vhero]

A hit? hahaha it will sell well and get massive scores why?? Look at reviews in the past no matter how bad the game is gonna be reviewers will score it high to make sure 360 gets future MGS games on 360 thanks to MS funding and loyalty. The biased reviews these days is outstanding especially in 360's favour. Any PS3 scores you see add 1 to it thats the real score. 360 score? take 1 away.. Of course i'm talking Metacritic percent not 9/10 here..

[Disccordia]

There's no reason why it won't sell well on 360. For a so-called Playstation game, FF13 has sold pretty well so far on 360.

[Redempteur]

Sorry , first wait until actual sales data before claiming that ff13 sold well on 360.
Second , most people wanting to know how the saga ends , actual fans of the saga bought the game on PS3.
Third Spin-off MGS games ...well they never sold well.
Look at MGS ACID ..

[DevastationEve]

MGSR is not only going to be a hit on Xbox 360, it's also going to open Kojima to further use of the platform as they'll already have extensive work and knowledge of the hardware.

MGSR could lead to ZOE on Xbox 360. And it's not exactly the first time they've worked on it either; Rumble Roses XX showed off some insanely detailed and well choreographed female fighters for being a 2005 first gen Xbox 360 game.

[gameseveryday]

well it all depends on what the current market condition is, its a bit too early to have an opinion on this.

[krisq]

...at 'Peace Walking' :D

[shikwan]

Otherwise I guess PS3 didn't get the 'real' Ninja Gaiden, Orangebox, etc. but 360 did get the real Virtua Fighter! lol

[peeps]

oh dear...

Rising = Kojima is a producer

all other MGS games Hideo was a dricetor i.e. he had more input with other MGS games that he'll be having with Rising.
Rising is being developed by a different group within the kojima productions team whilst the team that worked on MGS4 work on peace walker.

ninja gaiden was developed by the same guys on both platforms so not sure what u mean by that...same as virtua fighter 5

[shikwan]

chill dude, it was just a joke. I could care less! Virtua on PS3 didn't ship with online play, is what I meant but like I said, big friggin deal!

[Wrathman]

i have deep conserns for MGSR after the FF13 debacle.if they follow the same marketing pattern(early release in japan followed by extremely poor port to xbox)then i wont be buying.also if they fill 3 discs with cutscenes,i wont be buying.

very inferior ports might be acceptable for ps3 lovers but not for me.

[infamousinfolite]

the difference between MGSR and MGS4 is the content MGS4 needed to finish up the story using cut scenes also to fill in blanks whilst MGSR would be all action-like.

[avengers1978]

If you haven't noticed most of the better games coming out lately are PS3 exclusives. FF 13 was a crappy port to the 360 but was made for the PS3 and everyone I know playing it is playing it on the PS3 and really enjoying it. It's funny how the bots thought MGS4 was coming to the 360 they were all excitied about it but now that they know they are only getting MGSR, MGS4 is all of a sudden crappy. The real truth of the matter is when MGSR comes out it will be on multi-disc, for the 360 with compressed visuals, and audio...The PS3 version will be on one blu-ray with better visuals, and most likely more content.

[infamousinfolite]

but with if like mgs4 he only wants to use one disc for both versions then the 360 version would be gimp!!!!

[Foxgod]

Wouldn't it be funny, if at E3, Kojima comes out again on the MS conference, and this time announce MGS5 for the 360 and Ps3.

[MajestieBeast]

No it wouldnt cause the game would be shorter and wont look as good 4. Plus 360 owners arent even metal gear solid fans else they would have bought a ps3 instead of a 360 same for final fantasy.

[Foxgod]

Theres plenty of games on the 360 and ps3 that look better then Metal gear solid 4.
That, and the game would not be shorter, FF13 got 10 hours of cutscenes, and it still got ported to the 360.

Both FF13 and MGS4 are 32 GB in size, so technically MGS5 could come on 3 dvd's, and be the same length and look better then MGS4.

[infamousinfolite]

MGS4 is 50 GB. Plus I don't think he's focusing on consoles right now for MGS5 aka PW (just incase you didn't know)

[hmmmm]

"360 owners arent even metal gear solid fans else they would have bought a ps3 instead of a 360 same for final fantasy"

That is a pretty ignorant thing to say..
Someone could be a fan of both MGS and something like Halo but because they like halo a lil better, they decided to go with the 360. Its not that hard to imagine...

And also wasn't MGS2 on the original Xbox?

[Foxgod]

MGS is 32 GB actually, go check some torrents that link to MGS4.

And yes, Substance (MGS2) is also on the xbox.
Another thing i pointed out in the past, that MGS has been on more platforms then most other franchises in existence.

Also, the Metal gear series started on a Microsoft platform, the MSX, which is a standard owned by Microsoft.

[infamousinfolite]

well 32 or 50 still I seriously don't think he would make MGPW/5 for 360 he already said no to MGS4 port what makes you think he would make MGPW/5 for the 360?

[Foxgod]

MGS4 is build on a ps3 only engine, why waste time and resources, if all he has to do is build the next MGS in the same engine as MGS Rising.

The engine that MGS4 is build in is probably not multi platform, because of its cell specific design.

However with Rising they now have a multi platform, so from bussiness perspective its a lot smarter to just move on to the next one, instead of recompiling a few years old game.

[dangert12]

the way it happend last time it kind of disgusted me it felt like he was a snake

[Biggest]

So now they're going to change the formula from tactical espionage to lightning attack in MGS? I doubt that. Snake was never much for the ninja business. And for someone to say that 360 players aren't into MGS seems fair. Going by the general consensus here, 360 guys HATE games with lengthy cutscenes. And plenty of games look better than MGS4? I can think of a few games that do. But no way in hell are there plenty.

[BlackTar187]

in how much trash was talked about mgs4 and now would be praised. That would jsut sad how movie this movie that and how at every turn the same people still hope and beg and pray for it and im almost positive alot of that is just so they can say ha we have it now as well. So sad when video games are more about the above then playing the darn game for how good it si.

Im a huge MGS fanboy and the way the 360 community trashed it was disgusting.

[bjornbear]

if FFXIII on the 360 actually got badly received by the general FF fandom and sold poorly?!

OH WAIT! =O

speculation is fun isn't it =)

its ok, even if MGS5 came out and you got it for your 360 you wouldn't get the story so don't bother ^-^

[MikeTyson]

360 fans are also hypocrites as they were bad mouthing MGS4. Saying a bunch of bs and that the game sucks. But when rumors hit that it was coming to 360 they acted as if it's better then sliced bread.

Also if anyone played Raiden on Metal Gear Online, gameplay was solid and he was fun to use if you had the expansion pack.

You also got to remember that MGS2: Substance hit the Xbox, and MGS1: Twin Snakes hit the Gamecube.

And who actually cares about how many disks it will be on lmo

[MikeTyson]

I really wish MGS Peace Walker was on the PS3.

[infamousinfolite]

true but he was saying he wants to challenge himself as to why he look to the psp.

[Colonel-Killzone]

Lol oh yes you guys must see the sales of old ps3 exclusives sell on the 360 ff in NA with only 160k sales really now i remember 360 fans said mag was a flop when it sold over 300k first week and heavy rain was a flop selling over 500k first week. Like i said back when mgs4 came out if you was a real mgs fan you would have bought a ps3 when it came out not dispute debates about it coming to the 360 the real mgs fans always have and always will be on the ps3 the fake ones who claim they are fans are on the 360. Thats like me buying a ps3 and yelling about how gears should come out on the ps3 really when the hardcore gears fans are on the 360. If kojima can't fit most of his ideas on the limitation of the dvd disc then its a no MGS5 will not come to the 360 want mgs5 buy a ps3.

[Pennywise]

Your comment did not help my headache.

[infamousinfolite]

in other words if kojima couldnt put all his ideas on a bluray disc without using two of them then the 360 versioon wouldn't have the full version it'll probably have on a couple acts or no cutscenes.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

...i have 'ZERO' interest in MGS:Rising!!! ;-D

As soon as a Title goes to the xBox 360 to i lose interest. Oh well...

[Wrathman]

thats because you have no appreciation for anything that doesnt have a sony logo on it.

if i took a dump and put a sony logo on it..you would buy it.

[ZBlacktt]

Think of it like this. Why would I want something that could be made epic and could on'y fit on a Blu-ray disc. Rather than something that could fit on a DVD. Something that was cut up, parts left out, downgraded graphic code, etc, etc. It's a no brainier nowadays that blu-ray exclusive games are top of the line when a huge budget is behind it. With a DVD, there is only so much that can be done to fit regardless unless they go multi disc's. But some Dev's are showing that even with having there multi platform games playing on both systems. The PS3 one will still have a better overall picture ( FFXII and Dante's Inferno come to mind ). But at the end of the day. If you own and play with a DVD console still. You already know you are playing on dated equipment and expect to have a limited game experience. That's just a fact of the format and not the console manufacture.

[JCITY]

but i dont think final fantasy looks better than mgs4..the textures in that game are some of the best ive seen...also the character models are crazy ff has cg but graphics are smoove

[bjornbear]

but, considering the MGS5 is coming out only on a Sony console (PSP), i think it would be pointless to bring MGS6 without the previous ones (imo)

also - isn't Kojima very devout to the PS brand in relations to the MGS franchise?

Thus MGS:R - it gives non-sony console owners to get a taste of the MGS world

i think its a good thing =) now lets hope its as legendary as every REAL MGS game before it

[Chevalier]

Maybe it's just a lead up to bringing the series multiplatform by roping in some new customers, but, I think that it would make more sense to just keep it on the PS3.

They spent millions to build a new engine with awesome HD graphics and runs off the cell and is perfect with bluray. Why in the hell would anyone think it's a good idea to waste that patented engine and money? It makes no sense at all. 360 fans keep on saying that MGS is just one long movie anyways everytime I jumped into a thread about MGS yet the moment it's rumoured to show up on the 360 everyone flips the coin and is all in.

"Having a Metal Gear game on any system is treat. With the way Xbox 360 gamers support their system, and buy games it would make sense for a Metal Gear title to grace the system. "

So I could say the same about Gears of War, Alan Wake, Splinter cell and a number of other titles, doesn't mean it's going to show up on the PS3 or should. I could also say Splinter cell has had many games on the PS2 and it would make sense to go multiplatform, so why not right?

MGS did great on the PS3 even with the low install it moved almost 5 million units which is about the same as Gears of war, so they don't need to go multiplatform. Konami is sitting on a pile of money from Yugioh, DDR and other franchises, they don't need to do anything and they'll still make money.

[ScubaSteve1]

you guys do know MGS 5 is peace walker

[NinjaSp33d]

thats so true hahaha

[Colonel-Killzone]

Yes because 360 fans bash a game then when its on their console they praise it plz lol. And to respond to the comment no its not a ignorant comment you like halo thats fine but then you wanna whine about mgs5 not coming to your system because you chose to buy it for halo in the end you made up your mind buying your console when you said i like halo more basically saying halo is more fun the mgs5 so why whine about the decision that you made ? Like i said if you was a real mgs fan you would have bought a ps3 and every disagree i get proves my statement.

[kirajc]

MGS has its home to the playstation so more content will be aimed toward the PS3. Also the PS3 is probably the lead platform. Kojima has full control over the MGS serious. MGSR may not be a spin off, if anyone can recall, MGS3 was being made by the team with no kojima help until he took control and started to work on it later in the development. Konami probably wanted to go multi-platform. well see at E3 or tokyo game show this year....

[TheObserver]

You MS guys are have been mislead by Kojima, look at how he took the check and laugh his ass off on his way to the bank to fund more PS3 games.

During the E3 announcement:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...