GDC: Playstation Move latency revealed

The PlayStation Move was designed to be as responsive, precise enough to handle both fast and subtle motions.

"The latency for the PlayStation Move is as robust as the DualShock 3 and Sixaxis wireless controller – under one frame," said Scott Rohde, vice president of product development, SCEA.

The comment was published as part of a Develop feature detailing the technical specifications of new PlayStation new motion controller, unveiled at GDC early this morning.

[Blaster_Master]

what is it with Sony always leaving the right analog stick out completely? Sheesh.

[Raf1k1]

You don't seem to realise that the right move controller acts as the right analog stick.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Pennywise]

Why do people keep saying this?? The motion is the right stick, just as said above.

[Death2494]

Check out my pitch......

You guys know how the Wii has peripherals where you just place the controller inside right? Well look, Sony should make a light gun case with two handles. On the rear handle (the handle closest to your body) you would place the sub motion controller. This way you can hold the gun while using your thumb to move your character with the analog. Place the "MOVE" at the top of the chasis so where ever you point the gun your character will replicate it. you would hold it with both hands for better control. Couple that with 3d and i promise that would be close to the movie GAMER.

JUST A PITCH THOUGH, THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ARE WELCOMED

[presto717]

but what about R2 and R1. I didn't see them in the pics.

[Fishy Fingers]

My guess would be R1 being replaced by the large rectangle button on top, and R2 with the T (trigger) button underneath.

[The Great Melon]

I am interested to know if the extra two face buttons on the subcontroller can be distinguished from the other two on the move.

[siliticx]

I'm pretty sure X is X, whereever you press it, its most likely the same signal.

[StanLee]

A Wii Remote ripoff for a hundred bucks! SMH!

[GR8 1]

Lag infested Motion Controller. Move away from this wii Rip-Off.

[knowledge4lfe]

your parents must be so proud there kid got special ed of the month. whats natal latency by the way??

[azazin]

Natal 30 fps says Hi.

[Kain81]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

this videos are from 2004 for PS2 intresting stuff

[Fishy Fingers]

First link is interesting, seems Sony were accurate when they said they've been working on the Move for years.

Second video, seen that a million times already.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Pure Facts.

[bjornbear]

BUBUBUBUBUBUUUU TEH WIIIII WOZ FIRZT

sorry...fanboy spasm there =3

very interesting video

[starvinbull]

Fact is that 1 frame out of a second is 1/25 frames(pal) or 1/30 frames (ntsc).

Natal is described by M$ as having lag of 1/10 frames, this makes it 2.5 or 3 times more laggy than "move".

It seems accuracy has it's price to pay as does Natal's lack of controller device.

Fact is that nobody will be playing Counter Strike on PS3 with move or 360 with Natal so their respective lag is passable on most games.

If a tester can play ping pong, live, applying backspin and lobs at will with no trouble then I don't see what the problem is. That's what I saw today when I watched the GDC presentation so I'm convinced from a technical point of view.

The only thing they have to do now is find something to use it with other than family games, Demons souls?

[Finalfantasykid]

Demon's Souls might be a possibility, but IMO, this sort of thing doesn't work quite as well as a third person type game.

Oblivion on the other hand would work amazingly well with this control scheme.

[JustTheFactsMr]

"Fact is that nobody will be playing Counter Strike on PS3 with move".

Well only because I don't know if it's actually available on the PS3.

However did you miss the Socom 4 stuff? Shooters will definitely be something possible with the Move.

[jaseo]

PAL and NTSC are SD formats.

HD and 3D formats can have higher framerates. But yes, it begs the question, how long is 1 frame? how long is a piece of string?

[starvinbull]

If the Sony rep was talking about framerates higher than 25 or 30 per second then the 1 frame of latency is even less of an issue.

I used those fps as an example, if games are running properly there should never be an instance of less than 25 fps on any format, in any territory.

[TheBand1t]

Don't go into the open zone. Some little assbag is spoiling God of War III.

[knowledge4lfe]

i hear what youre saying, but if you played the first 2 you would know what he already tried to do.

[Foliage]

Much appreciated, have a bubble.

[SIX]

I had Heavy Rain spoiled for me the same way. These douchebags should be permanently banned.

[mastiffchild]

With all the interest GOW3 is creating in the series AND more pertinently with many people either playing or about to play the Collection package the spoiling is still a totally wrong headed act.

It actually upsets me to see people acting this way to others who, on fact, are part of the same community-aren't we all just gamers at the end of the day? Sure, a few of us are too keen for out own good, some get carried away in "support" of their most beloved console but acting like this is just NEVER a fair thing to start doing .

It's unforgivable and should, if justice for gamers' existed , result in people being banned from our ranks or actually suspended from playing any games/having internet access for a while. You just HAVE to despise the little fools who do stuff like deliberately try to spoil games for people like we've seen recently here on N4G-it goes way beyond what's "cool" or "OK" for fanboys to do and well into the realms of sheer tosspotism!

Loads of people still want to play all three GOW games on PS3(hell, it's only just releasing in a week or so in the EU IIRC!)right now and this is bad whatever spoilers it contains IF it's ruining, and knowingly, the fun of GOW virgins. Sad as...

[Morituri]

"The PlayStation Move was designed to be as responsive, precise enough to handle both fast and subtle motions, according to Sony."

As responsive as what? This is really bad writing at its best. :)

[ProjectVulcan]

Just a cut up quote i think. He clearly is referring to sixaxis/dual shock 3 response as the comparitive benchmark

[NeonSkull]

as responsive as possible.

[borgome]

Playstaion owners will also take advantage of the devices secondary function, which is a Butt Plug.

[thebudgetgamer]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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[mcnablejr]

jesus christ thats hilarious. bubbles.

[danfry]

I reckon the Move will turn out to be really good, but a couple of things do trouble me and this is one of them:

Despite what people have been saying earlier in this thread, I believe the main controller should have an analogue stick on it as well as on the sub controller. I understand that you point the reticule against the edge of the screen to turn, but this is not an elegant solution. You need to be able to aim and turn at the same time in order to make a first/third person shooter with this tech appeal hardcore gamers. A right analogue stick would be crucial to capture this element of gameplay - unless developers can come up with a better solution for turning your player whilst aiming.

[peeps]

in the socom 4 video the character starts to turn way before the crosshairs reach the edge of the screen

[Denocao]

Sony should drop the subcontroller and have the analogue and perhaps a second trigger on the PS move.

That game you yeld a sword and shield for instance: How do you move around if you are not holding the subcontroller but two PS move controllers instead.

So... to take full advantage of motion on all games you will need to have 2 PS move and one subcontroller (let's say for socom 4) for 1 player?

I would rather to have 2 PS move with analogues.

[danfry]

Yeah, you're right there peeps, I understand it's configureable as to how far to the edge the reticule can be before it starts to turn. But I'd rather the aim had nothing to do with controlling movement.

[danfry]

Spot on mate. I totally agree.

[Throwaway2020]

I don't see why they didn't find a way of tracking the sub controller. Why not follow ninty, they were right about things. Also can't you imagine controlling everything with one hand being really awkward. They're making things confusing with the current setup. Although they say mebe, I really hope they add motion to the nunchuck.

[NatureOfLogic]

is square-enix wii game Last Story coming to playstation move? I hope so

[Arksine]

In other words, Hell will freeze over before it comes to a Sony platform.

[zootang]

I just want some HD Tiger woods 2010, HD Grand Slam Tennis, Super HD MLB the Show. All with motion control in HD!! I just hope the rumble works well when ever i connect with a ball.

I forgot..... We will probable see an HD port of Monster Hunter. Maybe even Kingdom Hearts??

[dkgshiz]

Um, the right motion controller is the right stick. DURP!

[menoyou]

very impressive

[The_Stranger42]

As long as sony puts out hardcore games instead of casual shovelware all the time, I'll be happy to try this out. Looks a lot more responsive then the wiimote ever was and I think shooters can utilize this perfectly, where as I see no way shooters can work with Natal.