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Edge Review: Final Fantasy XIII

Edge: "FFXIII takes brave risks with the series' foundations, but they ultimately create trembling fractures throughout the entire edifice, that robust battle system unable to support the weight of an entire world. Final Fantasy games are always an investment. This time, the returns are questionable."

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Udidntlistenpunk5579d ago

Multiplatform games are reviewed on the 360. So this is the 360 version. It is understandable that it scored so low. 576p, jaggies, 3 discs, installing required, slower loadtimes, lmao its garbage.

PS3 version ftw.

Syronicus5579d ago

Edge is upset that Square did not use the 360 as the lead platform for this title. I suspect that if Square would have made the 360 version better we would see two reviews from Edge. One vilifying the PS3 version and the other glorifying the 360 version. People need to know that there are conspiracy theories about sites hating on PS3 games but then there is Edge. Edge is shamefully fanboyish and it can be proven so. They are just mad because the PS3 version is the superior version here and this is their way of shaming Square for doing so.

gaffyh5579d ago

I really do not understand Edge's scoring system, it makes no sense. The only way I can explain it is like Edge's review = reviews from a Halo players point of view. And even then LBP is such a massive exception to that rule, but the rest of the reviews seem to conform.

No way is FF13 a 5, that's for sure.

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lightningsax5579d ago

The "free pass" argument is interesting, but I'd say that this is more of a polarizing game than a few other FF's, especially given the context of what else is out there. You're going to love it, or you're going to hate it. It's a bit like... um, what was that game again? Oh yeah, Rez.

Bigpappy5579d ago

I really hope you conspiracy theorist have at least played some of the game before you criticize the scoring.

Obelisk925579d ago

It's Edge. I didn't expect much more than that.

Just enjoy the d*mn game. Still a day one buy for me.

Imalwaysright5579d ago

Thanks for you comment... pure comedy!!

OT SE are truly the only lazy developers this generation has seen (not valve like Ps3 fanboys claim)!! They didnt bother giving us gamers/fans a good game and this score reflects it. Hoppefully Versus will be what this game should have been.

bacon135579d ago

This review doesn't matter one bit. Edge could have given FF13 a 0/10 and told everyone that your face melts like one of the Nazis from Raiders of the Lost Ark when you boot it up, and the game will still sell millions upon millions. The funny thing is, I doubt their score would have been much different if they had reviewed the PS3 version.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5579d ago

No game on the 360 requires install, its the PS3 that "requires" you to install many of its games (mandatory)

JRPG's get eat up in reviews, too many reviewers spoiled by western RPG's.

crck5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

Edge should just be black balled from aggregate review sites. They also gave Dragon Age a 5. They are pretty much useless. Dragon Age was probably one of if not the best rpg last year. Their scores are so ridiculously inconsistent that its laughable. It seems like anything with a shooter slant scores higher. Dragon Age scored a 5. Add guns and a reticule and you have Mass Effect 2 and they score it a 9.

Shadow Flare5579d ago

Well are we really that surprised? There was a 1 in 10 chance of pulling the number 5 out of the hat, so a 5 it is. Though I reckon they'll manage to pull a 9 out of the hat for the 360 version

Danteh5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

I always liked Edge's written reviews because they are actually well written and elegant, but I think they should just put a n/a instead of a score, like many publications now do.

This is not a rant, just what I've seen for the last few years:
EDGE scores are COMPLETELY RANDOM

Seriously, even if a review is an opinion, you have to adapt to some scale! you can't just review "Mini Nijas" and give it a 7. WTF? So FFXIII is worse than Mini Ninjas? Are you f!cking crazy?

Edge has completely lost it, and if they don't do something, it will go from a magazine with harsh (which I like) but REALIABLE scores to a completely f!cked up magazine. Seriously :(

EDIT: I stumbled across this article, which is for long time Phantasy Star Online fans http://www.edge-online.com/... and it reassured me of what I just said: it's incredibly well written and engrossing, the only problem Edge has is the scores!

ico925579d ago

woah i was expecting at least a 7/10 but wow it looks like FF13 is set to be the weakest in the series

jack_burt0n5579d ago

@Danteh

You have gotten your facts all messed up, mini ninjas is a decent game really is and great for the kids...

"Fuel" is better than "MGS4" and "lips" is better than "resistance 2", "infamous", "killzone 2" right, thats the edge viewpoint.

And ninja gaiden 2 is better than sigma 2: for no apparent reason.

:) edge is now a joke magazine its actually pretty funny you would have to be a real genuine village idiot to use their reviews as a buying guide.

Ravage275579d ago

had the 360 version been superior.

DragonAge got a 5 too, and it was superior on the PS3.

Am i suppose to believe it is a coincidence?

lordgodalming5579d ago

Good thing they specified that they tested the PS3 version, ensuring that the 5/10 wouldn't appear on the 360 metacritic page. *eyeroll*

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MNicholas5579d ago

A dumb twitchy shoot-em-up like Halo or Gears get's top scores but a deeply involved RPG get's 5?

Game reviews are continue to be dominated by boorish adolescents with the attention span of a gnat.

pegger245579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

why even bother reading reviews, none of you ever take them seriously unless they agree with your opinion about a game most of you have not played yet. It is pointless to think of every conspiracy that you can think of as to why a score was given. maybe the game just sucks, maybe the REVIEWER doesn't like it at all. it doesn't always have to be some vast conspiracy to keep you poor, martyred ps3 players from enjoying a game. Relax all of you and get it if you like Final fantasy games, my guess is you will like this one too. . . If you always look for some sort of vindication in review scores you will be let down most of the time

edit: Lordgodalming,

"Good thing they specified that they tested the PS3 version, ensuring that the 5/10 wouldn't appear on the 360 metacritic page. *eyeroll* "

you have got to be kidding me, it is this sh*t that has got to stop

CrazzyMan5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

BUT on MetaCritic it is for PS3 version only!
You gotta be kidding!?)))

http://www.metacritic.com/g... and http://img69.imageshack.us/...

http://www.metacritic.com/g... and http://img96.imageshack.us/...

AND after that you can tell me, that MetaCritic is not BIASED???

rrquinta5579d ago

Just FYI, some of you didn't seem to notice that they reviewed the PS3 version, not the 360. They usually don't review a game more than once for different platforms.

Also, Edge is notorious for being very critical, usually much more so than most other magazines or sites. (Why I am still surprised that Bayonetta got a 10... but that is another story).

In other words, they rarely, if ever, give out 9s & 10s, so in general you can look at a game they rate with an 7-8 as a really good game (Mass Effect 2 got an 8, not a 9 as someone said).

Games in the 5-6 range usually are flawed, but not necessarily terrible games. If you read the review carefully, you'll see that they loved the second half of the game but found the first sorely lacking. They also acknowledge that if you are a die-hard FF fan, you'll enjoy it no matter what.

If a game gets a 4 or below, then it's usually pretty bad.

I'm not saying FF 13 is a bad game or not (I haven't played it yet, obviously), but you always have to consider the review history of a source. I always take PTOM and Nintendo Power reviews with a grain of salt as they tend to be overly high, and I usually see Edge as a little too harsh, so the true score (in my mind) is usually some where in the middle.

Of course, everyone's tastes are different, and opinions will vary. What I love, you might hate and vise versa. But you have to at least acknowledge when a reviewer gives a good effort to explain why they reviewed a game the way they did, and the pros and cons of the game, and I think this review does this. Not to say that all Edge reviews are great (I think the Heavy Rain review was a bit lacking, in my opinion).

It is true that Edge does seem to favor the 360, but if they truly were so fanboyish, wouldn't they have reviewed the 360 version and gave it a glowing review, while complaining about the failings of the PS3 version?

Besides, Metacritic doesn't always distinguish platform scores for multiplatform releases, unless a site or magazine reviews each separately. So the 360 FF will get the same score from Edge as the PS3 version.

Anyway, just my two cents on the matter.

lordgodalming5579d ago

All reviewers, great or small, have a right to their opinions--I've been waiting four years for this game and will buy it regardless of scores.

And you think I'm making up the media bias? Check out which "multi-plat" reviews only go up on the PS3 or 360 pages at Metacritic for yourself. Or go read Richard Leadbetter's Digital Foundry article on Eurogamer about graphical differences between consoles--dude sounds like he's about to start crying. Or how about IGN delaying their review apparently based on 24 hours they couldn't play FFXIII--give me a freaking break. They couldn't copy a savegame and load up one of the free Slim units we all saw Sony give them back in August?

As you said so eloquently, "this sh*t has got to stop."

But hey, if you think I'm nuts, I've got no problem with that. And maybe you're even right to a certain extent. I've let the media turn me into one of those fanboys I used to hate so much. Time to take a break from all of it--time to play the games I love instead of writing pissy comments about them on N4G.

To all of you on here, game on. I'm out.

theEnemy5579d ago

Ohh... Edge you are so predictable..

Biggest5579d ago

Yes it does have to stop. I checked the Metacritic page just to see how it looks. The 360 version had a higher overall score due to half of the scores, the lower scores, weren't used for both platforms. None of the sites said this is for the PS3 with 360 to be reviewed later. But saying this is for PS3. Period. That is a load of crap. Of course none of that changes the fact that I am buying the game. But it would be nice for people to earn their living the right way. I know that in the US we want our people to do their job rather than do their job for the people that pay more. Of course it doesn't happen that way, but we would sure like it.

Montrealien5579d ago

Well, I don`t agree with this review at all.

what more can I say?

pegger245579d ago

I can understand your frustration, but if you look for media bias on anything you will always find it. that is a very american thing to do, (before you complain I am also american and see it happen everyday) but you are questioning the integrity of a lot of people, and why do you assume microsoft is paying for reviews? have any proof? seriously, attacking the source for its credibility rather than whether or not you agree with their opinion is not a smart way of arguing.
Don't get me wrong, I am sure every single reviewer in the world has their own personal bias, but they don't all put it out there consciously, and they definitely don't all make their money in the way you imply . . .

mastiffchild5579d ago

Look at the score history for Edge reviews and trends, undeniable trends begin appearing. Firstly, you're likely to get a much easier time of things if you happen to be a British dev-hence Fuel and LBP doing so well for example. Secondly, they have, for whatever reason, a tendency to mark down PS3 exclusives that don't fall into the category above by an average of around 1.5/10 below their ,meta average. Finally, they also like to be a little too cool for school and hammer the odd massive release if they think they can even half justify it-FF13 fits the bill PERFECTLY but this has happened to other multiplat and 360/PC games too-DA:O and the first Mass Effect(7/10)both underscored at Edge.

They often over cirticised, all through their hard copy and on line history, I believe, for the traffic it causes by being controversial and a little hard to please making them feel credible. Certainly, the hits it gets them will help sell online ads and keep them afloat on both fronts. Thing is they have some great writing talent but, for some reason, can't be fair in certain situations.

I don't doubt that some people, however, will feel FF13 is a poor game for the series but 5/10? When "Let's Tap" gets an 8/10 etc? They really are trying to kill their cred but, to me, the real worry is the unexplained PS3 exclusive black hole-and I'd love to see someone explain such a concrete trend over such an extended period by any means other than bias because, trust me, I tried for ages and eventually gave up as those stats are damn convincing, which is just sad. I think it might al cke down to them being a little weak and thinking they're better than other sites/gamers/the world in general.

BRG90005579d ago

Notice that it says the PS3 version was the version reviewed? In the first line of the article? Maybe at least pretend you've read articles before making stupid accusations?

MmaFanQc5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

Nuff Said.....

Pika-pie5579d ago

You know how predictable Edge are... I knew what score this got before I even clicked on the story.

Pika-pie5579d ago

Seriously though.

If your really looking forward to this game as much as I am go to Metacritic and read some of the reviews that gave it 10/10 and 9/10 like GamesRadar. They will really get you pumped for the game again... Ignore the hate, treasure the love.

2cents5579d ago

damn! really?
surely its not that bad, is it?

Sarcasm5579d ago

Edge didn't get the note, FFXIII isn't a PS3 exclusive! Such a low score.

:)

baum5579d ago

EDGE gives 5 out of 10 to a former PS3 exclusive that is superior on PS3 and overhypes Bayonetta beyond its average score handing it a 10 out of 10. Edge has reinforced the fact that they have no credibility.

deafwing5579d ago

that's brutal ... LOL ... i would at least give it a 7. (after playing through the Japanese version) ... indeed it was linear but 5 is a little too low IMO.

crck5579d ago

@1.25 You should probably check your facts before saying someone is wrong. Metacritic as well as a quick search on google will show that Edge gave Mass Effect 2 a 9.

TheDeadMetalhead5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

Bayonetta - Better on 360 10/10
Dragon Age - Better on PS3 5/10
FFXIII - Better on PS3 5/10

Anybody else see a pattern here?

EDIT: And of course they went out of their way to make sure the 5/10 only shows up on the PS3 Metacritic page. That also explains why the PS3 version is currently at 82 while the 360 version is 83.

Eamon5579d ago

Wow, just when we all thought the other reviewers gave critical hits,

Edge comes out with a limit break!

Mr Pumblechook5579d ago

;) Only having a laugh people!

Therealspy17765579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

pretty hypocritical name for a guy who obviously made no effort to listen to their thoughts. the review doesn't complain at all about visuals or audio quality. it talks about the chracters, combat, story, dialogue, etc... none of which have anything to do with compressed data or multiple discs.

the score doesn't really seem to go along with what they said though. the review basically says that it's a title completely worth checking out while the score implies that it's average at best. i think it really just comes down to what you like. if you like j-rpgs with solid combat systems and great visuals, you'll have a good time.

@crck: so you're saying people and the sites that represent them are only entitled to an opinion as long as it parallels your own?

jessupj5579d ago

A review is NOT an opinion. It's a critique against a clear set of standards. All effort should be taken by the reviewer to remove any bias or personal tastes that might interfere with the final review. It's NOT their personal opinion, it's their professional assessment.

Think about it this way. There is an english teacher sitting at his desk marking 2 separate essays. Both of them are on different subjects, but both have the same level of quality (grama, pacing, spelling, articulation etc). The teacher required to mark the essays in question according to a set of strict guidelines. Guidelines I might add that have been discussed, standardized and published for all teachers to read and follow.

But this teacher, instead of rightfully giving the same mark for both essays, grades one of them lower because he doesn't personally like this particular student. Or maybe he degrades it because he doesn't like the subject matter.

This is what edge and other unprofessional so called gaming journalists are doing, or so it seems. Marking according to their personal likes and dislikes (and fanboy bias) and giving their opinion of games, instead of reviewing ALL games CONSISTENTLY against a clear set of standards.

I have to question people's intelligence when they excuse a ridiculously bias review with, "It's his opinion, he's entitled to it." I say again, a review is NOT their personal opinion, it's their professional assessment. Please read my comment again if you cannot grasp this, or if you disagree please give a reason.

tplarkin75579d ago

If you want FFXIII, buy Lost Odyssey. SquareEnix has dropped the ball way too many times. Mistwalker has picked it up for JRPG fans.

kalebgray925578d ago

so are they saying ffxiii is as bad as the last remnant?.... lol shut this site down plz....loolollololllooll

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moegooner885579d ago

Didn't Edge give Final Fantasy X a 6, trustworthy indeed !!!

lightningsax5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

Yes, they did. It's cited under the "critical response" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I really don't agree with their JRPG reviews most of the time, as they're about on the opposite end of the spectrum as I am. They posted an entire article defending FFXII and also had the 9/10 review for it. It's my least favorite.

Eh, matter of taste. I guess this is the most telling review - I'm gonna love this game!

Foxgod5579d ago

Something i agree on, FFX sucked balls.
So did 11 and 12, and 9 and 8.

The rest of the Final fantasy's where epic!

Caffo015579d ago

i bet u never played 11...STFU

Michael-Jackson5579d ago

X is one of the best JRPGs Ive played. Edge sure does hate JRPG.

Hellsvacancy5579d ago

FFX was 1 of the better FF games imo, i ONLY got in-2 FF8 and FFX, the rest suck

4pocalyps35579d ago

I actually agree with murderdolls. Final fantasy 9 is, currently, my best game.

stridershoge5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

Disagree with 9 and to some extent 8 but 10 (X2 also) and 12 I agree with. 10 seemed like a lazy effort to me, with similar enemies (just different colours) and the first FF that removed the explorable world map (worst move ever) and replaced it with a dull flat map.
One of the most exciting things in FF was when you recieved your ship (Invicible, Highwind, Ragnarok e.t.c) it allowed you to explore the vast terrain and it made you have the feeling of being on another world and not an island.

12 was the least memorable FF experience I have ever had, I honestly remember getting really bored with it and forcing myself to complete it. THis will be the first FF I will not be getting on day one, I really hope Versus goes back to what FF used to do right.

ico925579d ago

wait i don't think EDGE hates JRPG'S i mean they did give Demon Souls a 9/10

Bobby Kotex5579d ago

Demon's Souls is not a JRPG. It's a western RPG made by a Japanese studio.

Biggest5579d ago

@stridershoge

One of the few things tying Final Fantasy games together is the similar enemies. That's just how it is.

mastiffchild5579d ago

I dunno if it's just JRPGs anyway. DA:O and ME1 got way below their meta's recently too. I'm willing to think they might savage AP when it comes out as well.Look, they have a harsh word to say(or, rather, a harsh score to give) to any game that they don't fancy be it big or small. However, they also have far bigger, clearer issues with other groups of games than they do with purely JRPGs imo. Had FF been, bizarrely, made in england you could have bet your house, the lives of your kids and parents and world peace on it getting a ten and prolly GOTY off them too! Even as a PS3 exclusive the Brit dev rule wins out at Edge!

raztad5579d ago

@Kotick

Why do you think DS is a western RPG?

FF7numbaone5579d ago

hmm I didn't like X but it didn't deserve that score.

ReBurn5579d ago

7 and 8 were my favorites. I didn't enjoy any of the later ones as much. Doesn't mean they weren't good. They just weren't for me.

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Omega45579d ago

Western journalists clearly dont appreciate JRPGs.

At least Final Fantasy is one of those games which is so long running and has a loyal fanbase that bad reviews wont turn fans from playing the game themselves.

Still disappointed in Edge.

lightningsax5579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

I wouldn't say all Western journalists, but at least the Edge review staff. As I said above, the only new-school FF that they seemed to like was XII, which copied Western MMO tropes quite a bit.

That's not necessarily a bad thing - I personally don't think you can avoid being biased as a reviewer since you're passionate about games and have your opinions no matter what - but it's good for consumers to know where these reviewers typically stand. They're definitely not The Absolute Truth, nor should they be.

And yeah, Edge seems tilted toward the feature sets of non-J RPG's. I don't agree with them, but there it is.

snaz275579d ago

you said you hated sony cos they lost ff exclusive, so im interested in what you think about the 3 disk sub hd version the 360 got? Also id like to know will you be getting that version.

Xwow20085579d ago (Edited 5579d ago )

edge they are the worst video game magazine ever.
FFXIII will be amazing no doubt about that.

Michael-Jackson5579d ago

Edge sucks! who cares what they have to say.

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riksweeney5579d ago

Coming up next, GOW3 gets a 4!

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Final Fantasy and SaGa series veteran Kazuyuki Shindo leaves Square Enix after 27 years

Kazuyuki Shindo, who worked on games including Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy XIII, and SaGa: Emerald Beyond, has left Square Enix.

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972539d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus539d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim538d ago (Edited 538d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda538d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B537d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125537d ago (Edited 537d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic537d ago (Edited 537d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic537d ago (Edited 537d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981537d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot537d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda537d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

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Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy536d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay537d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12539d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay537d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB538d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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