Platinum Developing Vanquish on PS3 and 360; PS3 Lead SKU

1UP: Sega and Platinum Games held a press event in Tokyo last week to show their shooter Vanquish for the first time, and when we arrived we noticed something unexpected: the game was running on PlayStation 3.

A few interview questions later, and I can say officially that they are developing Vanquish on both platforms in-house, with the PS3 version as the lead SKU.

"We're leading development on PS3," said Vanquish director Shinji Mikami. "Obviously each console has its own unique requirements and limitations, but we feel if we can create a good enough presentation on PS3, we'll be off to a good start."

[Das_Bastardion]

Seems like this guys are gonna pull a Final Fantasy XIII stunt with this game

[GiantEnemyCrab]

What you mean?

Lead on the PS3 and take a giant crap on the 360 version?

Yeah, I'm not falling for that again.

[PirateThom]

I doubt it.

When a game is created for both platforms in mind, crap like Bayonetta and FF XIII doesn't happen. Those games were never given any consideration for PS3 and 360 until late in development. No way the quality would be the same.

[Das_Bastardion]

This guys were the developers of Bayonetta!, now im not so sure of my last statement, peharps they will pull a Bayonetta stunt again!

[zack61]

That means the game is going to look great on both platforms. :)
Edit: I doubt that will happen if it does oh well.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Yeah, just like FFXIII..

360 gamers beware.

[Rikitatsu]

The PlatinumGames bash can stop now.

[sikbeta]

I HOPE this Time the PS3 Version don't end up like Bayonetta, I mean is not like the game was Awful but, Both Versions were NOT equal...

[U-asked-for-it]

FFXIII is inferior on 360 cause of DVD .. there is not enough space for cutscenes and then they have to copy the same textures to every single dvd for all 3 .. the result is crappy . but this reality and this is why Blu-ray is needed for games like FFXIII . it's not needed for sports games nor shooters but for story driven games like FFXIII it's definitely needed .
also I'll gladly appreciate it if you can name any other game that had the PS3 is the lead platform for debelopment and ended up like FFXIII .
on the other hand I can name a bunch of other games that had the same results mainly cause of the 360 being the lead platform

[ClownBelt]

Don't bother. His brain is too polluted of fanboyism to know that.

[UnSelf]

im loving the news on N4G today

THIS is the reason i joined the site

[The Maxx]

Just like Ghostbusters....PS3 gamers beware.

[Godmars290]

Except in that case, they lied. Like a few other devs have.

Guess we just have to wait and see.

[The Maxx]

The Ghostbuster devs lied? About what? About Ghostbusters being developed on the PS3 first? Do you have a source? This is the first I have heard of this. What other developers lied?

[Aquanox]

Come on, don't act like a droid. FF is the very only case of a lower res port just because the was a "last minute" port. This one is being planned for both from the beginning so there's nothing to be worried about.

Remember what happened with Bayonetta though, and that wasn't a late port.

[Godmars290]

What's the difference?

There's evidence with Burnout Paradise that multiplatform titles can be done equally well, just as PS3 to 360 titles can be bad for the 360 because of lack of space. And then you've got the Orange Box which Valve either did or didn't port, and Bayonnetta, which Sega had to do because PD couldn't be bothered.

So I say wait and see.

[U-asked-for-it]

" Last minute " ..?
WTF are you talking about .. ?
the 360 FFXIII announcement is over a year and half old now .. where's the last minute decision you're talking about .
and yea you are right Bayonetta wasn't a last minute port .. BUT it was made by SEGA ( another developer ) plus by bringing bayonetta to the argument .. you're only proving my point that the 360 shouldn't be a lead platform unless there's no PS3 version of that game ..
and the irony is : PS3 version sold more while being the inferior version
and it seems that Platinum games have learned from their mistakes and made the PS3 the lead platform for development for their next game Vanquish

[The Maxx]

I understand the point that you were trying to make, however there is a BIG difference between being lazy and lying.

[pixelsword]

Not exactly:

It's NOT because the 360 couldn't handle what FFXIII was as a game, it's just that to put it out on so many discs would have cost them a lot more for what was worth for them. In the end they just cut-up the game, had to make engine adjustments specifically for the 360, AND compress it to the point of making the game sub-HD for the 360 just to make it fit on those three discs. The limitations of the DVD format is what is holding back the 360, not the hardware NOR the developers.

Because of the DVD, FFXIII was not only delayed over a year with all of those changes but game also under-performs compared to the PS3 version.

You can easily say that Blu-Ray is not needed in SOME situations, maybe even most situations concerning most multi-platform games, but you can never say that it's not needed, and you cannot say that games like Killzone 2, GoW 2, Lair, Motorstorm, MAG, or Uncharted 2 can be duplicated successfully on the 360 because you should have seen BETTER games than those a year ago already because of the easier to program hardware of the 360 plus the year head-start of the 360. Unless you want to factor in the Cell processor; but that's another story.

As a matter of fact, and I could be wrong, but has there ever been a game that was over three DVD's? If so, what was the game? I can think of one off of the top of my head: Lost Odyssey: and they must have learned that four discs were not the way to go for a reasonable profit margin.

[morganfell]

You can only say Bluray isn't needed when publishers feel that both SKUs must be as similar as possible. This will inevitably lead to the PS3 version being crippled down to last gen DVD standards.

[DaTruth]

The reason 360 to PS3 ports are bad is because they port over the compression too. The Cell is designed to stream uncompressed large textures from the Bluray disk! The Ps3 was not designed with compression in mind; why would they have compression in a game on a system that has no need for it!

When they port over a game from the PS3 to the 360, the PS3 version has no compression and it runs good and then they compress the 360 version and it runs good.

The ported over compression is the only factor of PS3 ports running worse than their 360 counterparts!

[Sevir04]

Just don't cut it for me. Plus this game looks to have plenty of motion blur to it. Almost making me sick...

[FanboysWillHateMe]

You're missing out big time, especially for 2010. Yeah you got your exclusives, but why settle for just that? You guys really think you're too good for multiplatform titles huh? LMAO, who are you?!

[raztad]

@Fanboy

Chill out buddy, it's not like you buy the games for him. At $60 each you have to be quite selective or just wait for some to reach the bargain bin.

[BeaArthur]

FanboysWillHateMe...yeah really, what the hell is the matter with you? He doesn't like multiplatform games, who cares.

[DaTruth]

I also feel the same way about multiplats! For whatever reason, Ps3 exclusives are of a higher calibre. But this quarter I am only buying one exclusive(GoW3) and two multiplats(FF13,Just Cause 2). FF13 is a very high quality game and Just Cause 2 just seems like a ton of fun and I like openworld games. I couldn't get MAG because circumstances in my life cuts out unpausible games; I just didn't like Heavy Rain's demo and Yukuza3 was a big disappointment.

It's not a fanboy thing; Most of the time, Ps3 exclusives are just better and when that's not the case, we will buy the multiplats! It just happens to rarely be the case and even for me it is down to personal opinions and circumstances this quarter!

[raztad]

At least this is a start. Bayonetta was close to be unplayable on the PS3.

@EDIt

"CLOSE to be uplayable" was what I wrote above, keyword CLOSE.

I didnt. I dont like to waste money on sub par ports, but many reviews stated the framerate drops a lot and frequently. Isnt that true?

[Rikitatsu]

talk about utter exaggeration, did you even play the game?

[ClownBelt]

I'm pretty sure he didn't. He goes what other people or what journalist reported.

[Mr_Bun]

Did you play that game before the patch?
I spent more time waiting for it to load than I did playing it...the only thing that didn't need to load was the god awful soundtrack.

[van-essa]

The game wasn't on par with the X360 version, but I beat it (PS3 version for controller) then played Darksiders later. Despite it's "issues" Bayonetta on PS3 is still a much better game than Darksiders and many other games out there.
So saying it's "unplayable" is just ignorant, but comming from a blind fanboy I wouldn't expect much anyway.

[raztad]

@van-essa

Would you care to elaborate why I'm a blind fanboy?

@Vile

I understand that. Still my comment had absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the game itself, but the PS3 port. In many last year posts I said, I would get the xbox version if I was a multiconsole owner. That's the console where Platinum wanted Bayonetta to be played.

I heard about the loading times and the patch, but still the awful framerate drops (falling down to 20fps when things get hectic) and screen tearing are very well documented. This is not subjective, the technical flaws are all over the place. Go to Digital Foundry for an indepth analysis.

Thanks Vile for you nice response.

It doesnt feel nice being bashed by kids like van-essa for no reason.

/end replay to Vile

BTW. The very reason of this article is to assure PS3 owners they wont be getting the shaft yet again with the new game. I'm glad for that.

@Van-essa

Ok, I understand that everybody has bad days, hope you do better. Sorry about calling you kid above.

I did play the demo, and it was playable, but as I already replayed to Vile I consider Bayonetta PS3 got no love from Platinum and it shows clearly.

[VileAndVicious]

Personally with Bayonetta the Only issue I ever had with it was the extreme amount of loading it did. The recent patch fixed it though other than that-
It is a very enjoyable game with an excellent combat system and control scheme.... Never quite understood all the hate. I have ALWAYS been a HUGE fan of everything Devil May Cry BUT I was massively disappointed with DMC4.

Bayonetta was a great game for what it was. I think alot of people are a little TOO harsh on the PS3 version though. Good game though not quite as polished as its 360 counter part.

@ Raz 2

I agree completely. And I think that Platinum probably never intended on releasing a Ps3 version anyway. I think that originally it was to be a 360 exclusive until Sega steped in and probably pointed out the game is "very" japanese. And Japanese games just dont sell very well on the 360 (Proof by the amount that Bayonetta sold on the Ps3 in spite of the inferior port.)
Also Kimiya has stated many times in interviews that he wanted it to be in direct competition with God of War 3.

But yeah I hear where your commin from.

[van-essa]

"Bayonetta was unplayable on the PS3 (nice stealth edit though)". How could you know when you didn't even play the free demo.

"I dont like to waste money on sub par ports, but many reviews stated..."
If it was an exclusive you'd say the reviewers were biased, or that we can't trust reviews (that's what you do, just read your own comments), etc.

And I'm sorry if I offended you with my previous comment, I shouldn't have responded to you the way I did, just having a bad day that's all.

[Shendow]

I had the game preorder for PS3, got half way done with the game an got to the point when you find out how to transform, problem was it didn't tell you how or did anything like what I seen people done.

It was missing the active part to it, so you could get pass the part, now my file has over 10 death from me just trying to jump a cross.

So it is true the game is close to being unplayable with that problem, but last I heard, it got fix. Thing is, I sold that game because I didn't have the money to finish paying off my other games I got preorder and a lucky girl has been wanting that game.

[DaTruth]

Standards for unplayable are subjective. He would have a sad life if he based his standards on your opinions. He'd be playing something that was unplayable in his opinion and getting no enjoyment out of it because you thought it was playable. We can't waste our lives renting every game in existence; That is why we frequent this site and let the reviewers do the life wasting for us(they get payed to)!

In the short; Each man should play what he considers playable!

[Biggest]

Why do I see Gears of Halo in this? I don't think I'm excited at all.

[VileAndVicious]

I think once we all see actual gameplay well see the difference. I trust Platinum games they some pretty awesome stuff.

I actually think they are one of the few game design studios left concerned with making fun and innovative games rather than just a profit (ahem- Activition)

You guys do remember Viewtiful Joe, Okami, Resident Evil and Devil May Cry dont you!? We need more developers like Platinum.

[Gago]

when digital foundry does face off and declares the ps3 version as superior

[washingmachine]

lol nice.

[Gamer7l]

"Platform" is the proper term...SKU is a retail acronym used for tracking specific stock items, variants, bundles, etc. within an inventory system. It has nothing to do with game development platforms.

[coldfoot]

I applaud these guys, bayonetta had good combat but everything else about it was mediocre. I hope this is a good game.

[Midgard228]

this game will be awesome, cant wait for it, and it being on ps3 lead will raise its bar even futher. this guy knows how to make games.

o to my subject title its true!!! jackie chan sings good lol!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

pretty bada$$ actually :3

[Chaos Striker]

Cool. You'd be surprised by how many actors in Asian countries know how to sing as well as act. I think right now, its pretty much a standard that if you are a big time actor in Asia, you also have to know how to sing. Additionally, I recall that Jackie Chan trained in the Peking Opera School or something (can't remember the exact name), the most famous theater school in China and they require everyone to know how to perform gong-fu, act, and sing.

[DarkSniper]

What some may consider to be a paradigm shift in game development, Dark Sniper considers to be a natural transition. Developers have taken note of the AAA content that appears exclusively on PlayStation®3.

Every company wants to produce a title that will generate revenue and deliver a top-notch, quality title that the fans feel comfortable spending their money on. Which is why PlayStation®3 is now the focal point of multiplatform game development.

Multiplatform games in the past have always had two tiers of development. One was the next generation game which is on both PlayStation®3 and the mundane Xbox 360. Then the second tier was the PlayStation 2 and Nintendo Wii to appease the millions of owners who bought the respective consoles.

Because of Sony's incredible foresight, if you want the next generation of a multiplatform title, only PlayStation®3 can provide you that quality. If you want a last generation multiplatform game, then Xbox 360 is your best option. Beware, going that route will give you 100% probability that you will be dissappointed with the product on Xbox 360.

$niper

[Das_Bastardion]

I love how he speaks of himself in third person

bubbles!!!

[TheHater]

I love this user post.

[LuHawk27]

B!tchSniper is back after being banned

[koehler83]

"A good enough presentation on PS3..."

Just bristling with confidence in his product.

"Hey, if it can boot without setting your system on fire, it's worth $60."

[jalen247]

Okay. Platinum games, I forgive you for not developing Bayonetta in house.

Smart move on leading with the PS3. Put the 360 version on 2 dvds if you have to but make sure you make a compelling PS3 experience utilizing the PS3's strengths like MLAA, Cell, Blu-ray, hard drive, etc.

[Socomer 1979]

All it takes it to get your game on the dam bluray with plenty of gigabytes left for some bonus content & then chop them up on several dvd's for 360 and sell that content as dlc. Genius!

I'll be excited about some in game browser functionality like assasins creeds 2 Uplay or MGS4 rewards shop or something on PS3.
The 360 can get the dhick.

[jalen247]

Vanquish is looking a lot better than Bayonetta in the graphics department...I wonder if this has anything to do with leading on the PS3...just wondering...

[slave2Dcontroller]

FF13(Lead Platform PS3)
Vanquish(Lead Platform PS3)
Castlevania(Lead Platform PS3)

And sice Kojima Productions is working on Castlevania with the PS3 as the lead platform, I'll go ahead and call it now. Say it with me guys- Metal Gear Solid; Rising(Lead Platform............ P.......S.......3!)

[Unicron]

This has actually caught my eye.

What it really needs for me to purchase though, is splitscreen support. Really glad they confirmed it on LP2.

[ForzaGT]

At the least the game won't be dumbed down due to inferior sound, graphic and disc

[Software_Lover]

and lead development on xbox? They never gave the xbox a chance because most devs didn't even look its way even though it was, somewhat, superior.

[slave2Dcontroller]

Sony was able to do something with the PS3 despite the 360's headstart that MS couldnt do with Xbox1 vs PS2 headstart and that is drastically increase YOY sales.

America is MS only strong hold and the only place where the 360 outsells the PS3. Its becoming a no brainer. Do devs really want Not want to have games that look similar to Uncharted, GOW3, KZ etc?

[Software_Lover]

I was just asking a question. And the remark about it being a no brainer is kind of beyond the point.

People state that the "point" in developing for the ps3 first is to make the best game possible. Wouldn't that have been the "point" in developing for the xbox first? The only dev team that took the time with the xbox were, at the top of my head, Ubisoft with the splinter Cell series, and 2k with NFL2k5. Those games were substantially different on the xbox than their ps2 counterparts. And if graphics were your main reason, besides the selling standpoint, then most devs would've went xbox instead of ps2, but they didn't.

Doesn't really matter to me though. I was just wandering. I enjoyed my ps2 as much as my xbox, even though the xbox had better graphics. Im enjoying my 360 as much as my ps3. But PC FTMFW!!!!!!!!, LOL

[makingdamage]

Yay! Another 5 hour FPS experience.

[dragonyght]

lol looks like they trying to avoid another bayonetta fiasco

[Paracelsus]

Nobody cares about yet-another-tps, no matter who develops it, everyone cared for the best action game ever. Too late.

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

360 version will be on 5 dics and 10 gigs of space was taken out..dlc on the way!!!!!!!!!!!!thanks micro

[jjesso1993]

i can see it now the devs go do somthing amazing on ps3 go port that 360 the message insufficient space pops up the devs start crying they make it sub hd that just about works then compress sound to mp3 qualtity and in process cut half the game.

[seifer085]

but I dont like Halo. Hopefully it plays differently we'll see.

[Raider69]

bad move!They shoud have done two internal teams and exploit the maximum of the two hardwares!This is going bad for the Xbox 360 mainly because PG already have an engine that runs 60Fps on the 360 and now they are going for the minimum tech denominator to achive equal standards!

[DigitalAnalog]

Looks like he made the "right" decision on this issue. If anything, why did he not continue to finish the franchise of Biohazard?

I'm expecting greatness on this one.

-End statement