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Confirmed : FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too

Neogaf has confirmed that the custscenes of the x360 version of FF13 run at 576p . It was confirmed before that the ingame FF13 x360 version ran at 576p days ago.beyond3d has also confirmed the FMV resolution of x360 version to be at 576p.The cutscenes of the ps3 version runs at 1080p,as confirmed by eurogamer's digital foundry division

edit:
The full set of 576p scans with analysis can be found here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h8kyb8

One analysis chart is here :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20074288&postcount=3826

edit2:
the scans are proven to 576p by beyond3d tech gurus too. The guy got banned for using provocative words . See other images of x360 versions as well

Update:

EDIT:
The user jurai got banned because of using the pirated version of x360 ff13.the analysis of 576p resolution for fmvs has been acknowledged by tech gurus of beyond3d as well

BEYOND3D Has confirmed that the ingame FMVs of x360 version runs at 576p too. This comes after a confirmation that ingame ff13 runs at 576p on X360 too

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1401775&postcount=1485
"Still 576p 2xMSAA "

The FMVs on the ps3 version runs at 1080p. the ingame ff13 on ps3 runs at full 720p native

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chidori6663852d ago

persons in neo gaf make this comparison in the graphics of ps3 and 360..

look:

ps3:

http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

360:

http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

look the 360 have bad textures beacause of old tech of dvds 9.. :/

Game13a13y3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

LOL, 3 times the discs, half the resolution. Enjoy disc swapping with your prehistoric console using format in the PS2-era. Jump Out

Bill Gates3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Multiple discs...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

DelusionalMsBot3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

We get the superior PS2 version

POOR droids and their next gen version on one disk

HAHAHAHAHA

happy_gilmore3852d ago

bots' tv's are not even 480p.

W831SOLIDSNAKE3852d ago

HAHAHAHAHA 576p ridiculous!!! Bu bu bu teh bue RaY no no not neEded HAHAHAHAH

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That's what need to be done with all XBoXe's

Mo0eY3852d ago

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAH

Mo0eY3852d ago

*breathes*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH

chaosatom3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

HAAAAAAAAAARD!!!

Antar203852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

...

Hmm...where is Bungie?

StanLee3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

WOW. Never have I witnessed more idiocy than in articles discussing this game. So many things get neglected when fanboys think they've "won" something. It's funny how all the criticisms are being leveled at the XBox 360 hardware but when PS3 ports are terrible, it's "lazy developers". So let's put things in perspective for you fanboy idiots;

1. There are games on the XBox 360 that look better and offer more content than Final Fantasy XIII so whatever inferiorities there are in the port, it has nothing to do with limitations of the XBox 360's hardware. Let's highlight here, the structure, scale and fidelity of Mass Effect 2. A stellar RPG on the console released just weeks ago.

2. Criticisms are constantly leveled at the XBox 360 for being responsible for the lack of content in the game but the game was complete on the PS3 and ported to the XBox 360 in less that 4 months. Any content omissions had nothing to do with the XBox 360 hardware. As a matter of fact, they don't even use all the space available on the 3 disc the game comes on.

3. THE GAME WAS PORTED TO THE XBOX 360 IN LESS THAN 4 MONTHS! This is something always omitted in these "discussions". Were you really expecting a comparable port?!

4. Square Enix failed Final Fantasy XIII not the XBox 360's hardware. The game is dated and derivative with every JRPG cliche. The genre is dated and Final Fantasy as a franchise has been mediocre for a while.

5. IT'S A MEDIOCRE GAME. Period. Fullstop. End of story.

rawd3852d ago

6 paragraphs of tears and butthurt. LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

baum3852d ago

I missed you, Nasim.

darthv723852d ago

Can't wait to get this game and see it for myself.

God_Of_Epicness3851d ago

The XBOX version of the game is responsible for loss content on PS3's version like it or not. The actual planned game would've taken more than 4 dvd's lol. SE wouldn't want one version to be better than the other so it cut out PS3's content because if it didn't and went on with 4 DVD's wouldnt that make FLOPBOX 1.5 look stupid?

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godofwar3333852d ago

i feel bad for MS . so much money down the drain

Mr_Bun3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Apparently, MS didn't spend enough....on the 360 hardware to keep up with this generation, anyways

zoks3103852d ago

The 360 version will look like crap on a HD screen. Sorry for the fools that buy the 360 version.

Godmars2903852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

As far as FFXIII is concerned, the war is over. The only thing left is to see if MS can sell more copies of a Sony title with a strangle hold on advertising.

By all counts, that "battle" is already decided too.

Aquanox3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I don't know if what he says is true or not, but the guy got banned for lying or not proving he owns the game:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

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Shadow Flare3852d ago

Geez.....the 360 really is the poor man's playstation

Kain813852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

he was banned cause he had the pirated 360 version i believe http://img186.imageshack.us...

this was one of his posts

EvilBlackCat3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

before you go rampage wait for both copies to be released

if you not and everything end up been all B.S. better prepare a apology note to post it here

godofwar3333852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

the full set of analysis is found here

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

http://www.sendspace.com/fi... ------576p confirmed

your capture method has nothing to do with internal resolution which will always remain same

@vulcan

blurteam used ps3 captures and bullshots to come at a conclusion that x360 version was 576p ingame

in reality that was debunked by beyond3d. ff13 x360 is 576p for both cutscenes and ingame

as opposed to 1080p for cutscenes on ps3 and 720p ingame

Montrealien3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I can deal with PS3 exclussives almost all being in 720p, this is not very important since at the very least it will be upscaled to 1080p. And I was taught a very important lesson by many PS3 fans here when refering to PS3 games being at 720p, which is, as long as the game is good, who cares. amirite?

btw, FF13 day one on the PS3 for me!

rroded3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

anyone who owns a ps3 and was anticipating this game needs to know that over half the game was slashed so they could fit it on this 3 disk inferior 360 version. I blame square as much as ms for this nothing but greed.

edit chk out the facts here if your inclined
http://www.siliconera.com/2...

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Montrealien3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Well, one thing is clear here, the PS3 version is the superior version, day 1 on the PS3 for me thank you!

darx3852d ago

It's an average game.

BeaArthur3852d ago

godofwar333...anyone who doesn't own a PS3 too will still get it. Just because one version is going to be better doesn't mean it kills the other.

ProjectVulcan3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I dont know whats going on here. First Squenix said the gameplay was same as PS3, which is 720p. Then some guy got hold of shots and deduced it was running 1024x576. THEN 'team blur' as they call themselves said no, it DOES run 720P on 360, the previous claim was made from a low quality capture. THEN all of a sudden this 'coincidence' that the cut scenes run 1024 x 576. So......does this mean the gameplay is also actually, most likely the same too and 'team blur' are wrong? Its one hell of a coincidence that the cutscene resolution comes out the same as the claimed gameplay res resolution

Game13a13y3852d ago

i just finished playing my import japanese version, the CGI cutscenes are georgeous, too bad the in-game graphics got gimped by the 360, even demon's soul has better in-game graphics than FF13, which is pretty sad. MS really screwed up this time.

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rroded3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

beaucoup mon ami

http://www.siliconera.com/2...

more than enough cut out to make another game....

Oner3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

@ darx ~ Ever ponder that it being "average" may have something to do with the amount of content that had to have been cut because of the constraints SE had to deal with from the 360?

@ rroded ~ LoL! Good info that actually supports what I was saying to darx, Thanx!

Montrealien3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

So what you are suggesting is that if Infamous was on the 360 also, it would only be 5 hours long? The Ps3 truly is the rich man`s 360.

btw, square is known for cutting content in their games, this dates back to the snes days. Your link is nothing more the (enthusiast) popcorn. also, with DLC we should be seeing those areas.

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CYBERSNAKE3852d ago

I've got a feeling this is going to be the same for Metal Gear Solid Rising

FanboysWillHateMe3852d ago

You ever think that the deleted content was cut because it didn't flow well with the game?

Content gets edited out of games on a regular basis, ya know. No different than deleted scenes in movies. Oh well, I'm glad you're upset over it. =)

UltimateIdiot9113852d ago

He probably knew that would happen. Think about it, if this news reaches gamer who considered about the 360 version. This might be a reason for them to reconsider. It will affect 360 sales.

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rroded3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

you really think a hidden base or a petting zoo woulda taken away from the game let alone actual towns n tons of npc's. Word is the game was going to b a lot less liniar and more open world b4 ms got their claws into it...

think ffvii on steroids rather than this on the rails rpg light we got stuck with.

also did i say anything about any other game? Tho we all know ps3 exclusives leave the 360 in the dust.

edit as for being upset yeh any ff fan should b but thx to the stellar game lineup this year ill get over it pretty fast. More than nough to tide me over till ff13 hits the bargin bin XD

Montrealien3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

If you where correct rroded, we would have a 30hour + campaign spanning accross 10 countries in Uncharted 2, all in the glory of 1080p, zero draw-ins and at a steady 60fps. And lets face it, this Liniar final fantasy crap has been going on since FFX, what was the problem back then? cutting edge DvD storage, or Square?

You are letting your imagine go wild here...for nothing frankly, game content gets cut all the time. This should not be news for an avid gamer. then again, you are not one, you are just another N4G anonymous troll. amirite?

rroded3852d ago

guess it takes one to know one right lol

besides your the only one talking uncharted here

funny how trolls can change the subject so quickly when they cant argue the facts presented.

anyways assuming your also quebecois i hope you get a ps3 so we can play some uncharted2 n settle our differences gamer to gamer ;)

Kain813852d ago

and iam sure that Kitase said in an Interview long long ago, before the 360 announcement, that Final Fantasy 13 would maybe use a 4 layerd BLU-ray (100GB).

callahan093852d ago

Some people a couple of comments down were trying to say what the pixel count differential is between 1080p and 576p, and I would have liked to respond to them, but there is no "reply" button because the original comment was deleted by mod. So I'm replying here just to get the factual information out there.

576p = 576x720 = 414,720 pixels
1080p = 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

2073600/414720 = 5

So 1080p is exactly 5 times the pixel count as 576p.

himdeel3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

...unless you have a PS3 and 360 version of the game up and running at the same time, side by side on two identical TVS, have 2 heads & 4 hands to play both games at the same time.

Play games on your system of choice and STFU :)

Ravage273852d ago

no one should be surprised. Have we heard anything from SE or MS ever since the 720p vs 576p news first got out?

Then again, the difference between 1080p and 576p cutscene is IMMENSE esp. since it constitutes a huge chunk of the experience...so anyone still thinks Sony was wrong about bluray?

Montrealien3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

RRODed said..

(funny how trolls can change the subject so quickly when they cant argue the facts presented. )

Well, since you are in Quebec I sent you a PM on where you can find me in Montreal and I will gladly discuss this subject with you face to face if you wish. I presented to you facts which you ingored. This is not important, and no one at square has ever said that content was cut due to the storage space problems DvD9s clearly have.

pixelsword3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I didn't read the digital foundry analysis of FFXIII, so can someone do two things for me:

1. Answer if digital foundry released that information about the 360 version being 576

2. provide a link?

It's not that I'm doubting the findings (okay, a little bit) but if this is true, then why didn't digital foundry reveal this about the 360 version in their analysis?

Udidntlistenpunk3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

PS3 version is FIVE times better than the 360 version.

lol

Yup, Playstation won.

Noctis Aftermath3852d ago

If there is one message Square Enix has been telling people this gen it would have to be that they are willing to sacrifice large amounts of quality for extra amounts of cash.

I think it's disgusting that a former great developer could turn into such a money hungry piece of sh1t.

we won3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Don't believe this Iron_Sheik made a new account to post BS anybody can fake on Neogaf. Iron_sheik is making the so called proof himself.

LOL Iron_sheik/godofwar333/nasim/t anod/shmee/antan/greywulf/Mooe y takes random pieces of made up BS and posts them as proof. Your agenda is pathetic Nasim.

"Neogaf has confirmed"

You mean some random nut posting BS on the website thinks he has "confirmed it"

edhe3852d ago

Getting Final Fantasy off the ps3 exclusivity is a huge victory for MS.

Ravage273852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

MS is more willing to shell out money on securing exclusive advertising rights rather than use it to persuade SE to put in more efforts for their version. There is just no way MS didn't know about the 576p downgrade, just goes to show how much they really care about their userbase

Syronicus3852d ago

I would never buy a Final Fantasy on the 360. If it were Nintendo or PS then yeah, but never on the 360. I have only known FF to be on the nintendo or PS platforms and it would just feel wrong to play it on the 360. Besides, from the sounds of it, the PS3 version is the version to won if you have both consoles like me so there is no issue here.

solidt123852d ago

I usually don't care about these things because it may be a difference of just 640p vs 720p but the gap between 576p and 1080p is so huge this can't be ignored. This clearly shows the strength of Blu-Ray which should be the choice for games this gen. I wish Microsoft would of put a HD-DVD player in the 360, it would alleviate alot of problems and even though HD-DVD failed they still could of used it just for games and had the required space. This is a failure by Microsoft. When I got my 360 I thought it had a HD-DVD player because i know how much space HD video takes up and it's an HD system. I felt like I got screwed when I found out it was just DVD.

vhero3852d ago

Wow so not even the cutscenes are HD. I remember when the 360 was first launched and MS made that golden rule that every game had to be at LEAST 720p it was the GOLDEN rule. Until Halo came along at 570p and of course MS rubbished the rule as it was Halo and MS wouldn't stop it releasing on the 360 for anything. Since then devs have been taking advantage of this. MS should really think about telling devs once again 720p or forget about it. But of course devs are too damn lazy and will tell MS to forget about it as the 360 is slowly becoming like the wii a place for lazy devs as its easy to develop for but without the huge fanbase that comes with the wii.

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morganfell3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

You can't compare the length of FF13 to the length of a shooter. That is just grasping at straws and one of the weakest efforts to pretend you are not protecting the 360 when really you are doing just that. Besides, Uncharted has MP and co-op.

The 360 is utilizing a last generation disk format and it is responsible for reducing the content on the the PS3 version. Period. These absurd greedy developers are as much to blame for damning the PS3 version as is the 360.

It has become a standard now to attempt to make MP versions the same thus damning the advantages offered by the PS3's next generation features and open development architecture.

And please stop referring to bungie please. He is doubtless here under one of his other accounts. Put him on ignore and be done with it.

tronz3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

"The user jurai got banned because of using the pirated version of x360 ff13.the analysis of 576p resolution for fmvs has been acknowledged by tech gurus of beyond3d as well"

What really happened. godofwar333 a.k.a. (jurai) got banned from neogaf for spamming up neogaf.com with lies and then turned around and lied about the reason on N4G to save face.

The update is self-explanatory

sikbeta3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

The F*CK?

my post was deleted for saying the guy is an @ss#ole for using a Pirated Copy of the Game, I'm Against Piracy like every Person who enjoy Games and PAY for Them...

On-Topic:

Wada, is the Kod!cK of SE, he's destroying the Remains of Squaresoft and the Guy For Money can f*ck up every game he want, FF13 is The PROVE of that, he really don't care about the game and only goes for The money...

Gaming FTW!!!

rawd3852d ago

My comment wasn't even remotely spam. Thanks N4G

Geriatric Hero3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

@ callahan09 - I'm no expert, but I think you got it wrong. 576 is the vertical resolution. The Xbox version of FFXIII is running at 1024x576. If we correct your maths, we get:

576p = 1024x576 = 589,824 pixels
1080p = 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

2073600/589824 = 3,5

So 1080p is exactly 3.5 times the pixel count of 576p. Not that it's drastically different from your numbers. It still looks pretty bad (the numbers, not the game). I'm just interested to see how MS fanboys are going to spin this one. Especially after what PS3 users had to endure because of Bayonetta.

Christopher3852d ago

This doesn't kill the 360 version at all. Just look at the Ghost Busters video game, which sold more on the PS3 even with the glaring flaws made by the developers compared to the 360 version.

We really need to just wait and see where the masses -- i.e. not us people who read game news most of the time -- put their money. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an almost even split down the line.

edgeofblade3852d ago

I still care surprisingly little. This is the kind of rabid FMV-worship I despise. I have never liked a game that was carried by it's story, ergo I loathe people who stir up flame wars about cutscenes.

harrisk9543852d ago

I can't wait to see how the media completely ignores the quality difference between the PS3 and 360 -- They NEVER ignore it when there is a substandard PS3 port (Bayonetta anyone?)... and you know that Lens of Truth will somehow fail to do a comparison of FFXIII.

Parapraxis3852d ago

"The full set of 576p scans with analysis can be found here:
hxxp://www.sendspace.com/file /h8kyb8"
^ why does that zip file contain an exe?

DaTruth3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Chill with meeting up to fist fight over this!

@Montreealien: A thirty hour linear campaign with multiplayer is impossible on any format and would just seem too drawn out for the purposes of not getting docked for length! The game of the year with Metacritic of 9.7 doesn't need to do that!

But I'll vouch for Montrealien; He was playing Uncharted 2 two weeks before all of us and I got it day 1!

Death3852d ago

According to your very own "fact source", the additional area were cut because they affected play balance:

"These areas were running in an unreleased build of Final Fantasy XIII, but were cut from the final version due to considerations about game balance and game volume. Kamikokuryou says there is enough lost Final Fantasy XIII content was removed to make another title."

1080p is 1920x1080. 720p is 1280x720. According to the neogaf post the Xbox 360 runs at 576x1024 which appears to be an interlaced signal. The output resolution will be 1152x1024. The only time a progressive signal is a benefit is when frame rate is affected. If the game can run at the same frame rate in 1152x1024 interlaced as it does in progressive 1280x720, then which is better?

-Death

Darkeyes3852d ago

@Pixel sword..

Dude Digital foundry never has done a preview of FF13 360 version... Here are the 2 links of the latest FF13 discussion...

Preview(PS3 version):- http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Latest Article:- http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

In the 2nd article they say "Website Ve3tro.com has reported the NXE hard disk install sizes for each of the three game discs that make up the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII" which clearly means they don't have the 360 version still for comparison....

There have been 3 DF articles about the same.. 2 I have posted and 1 is where DF compares the hardwares and pulls out the verdict if FF13 on 360 will be as good looking as FF13 on PS3 (which sadly I cannot find right now.. BTW PS3 won even then).

So the truth remains DF never really compared the 2 version or got Hands on with FF13 360 version.. The FACT that SE has not denied or commented is enough to solidify the fact that the game is Sub-HD.

Pika-pie3852d ago

Its a shame for the 360 purchasers of this game.

Final Fantasy games are well known for having some of the most memorable prerendered cutscenes ever in gaming and this gen they should be enjoyed in all of their 1080p glory.