Analysts Predict Win For PS3

Slow start, eventual win predicted by Japanese analysts.In the aftermath of E3, we all became part time analysts in an attempt to determine who would emerge victorious in the next generation race. But how do the real analysts feel on the matter? The latest issue of Famitsu has some revealing comments from three Japanese analysts: Daiwa Securities' Eiji Maeda, Nomura Securities' Yuta Sakurai, and Deutsche Securities' Takashi Oya. In the end, all three analysts predicted the PS3 to come out on top in the next generation race. However, they expect its lead to shrink. "The PlayStation 3 brand power is, of course, very strong," said Maeda. "However, the winds are have changed a bit. I don't believe there will be a commanding victory on the level of the PS2."

[zinnia]

At least the Japanese are wising up about the future of the industry, ps3s comeback wont be as big as they say it will thats just Nationalism.

[COVER GIRL]

You seen that too, that's why i posted the story.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

You little snot, its true though, dont make me spank you again.

[OutLaw]

I had no doubt that Japan will feel that way about the PS3. But that does nothing for me. I live in America. Over there Sony is God. Here they are just another big time company. That doesn't translate into success for me. I still want to wait and see what they can do for us.

[zinnia]

Japanese analysts prediction translates to we might! loose!. My dad works in Japan from time to time. they deal with defeat different than us, not saying that ps3 will loose but dont they admitt anything that makes them look bad.

[schnodder]

... we are the winners at all!

[Lionel Hutz]

Short, sweet, and to the point is what your comment was. I'm for Sony, but perhaps a smaller Sony lead is what gamers need. Perhaps the competition will give them more motivation to provide not only better pricing but better games, hardware, and online play. Man, it's such a great time to be a gamer...

[calderra]

I don't think this is true at all. I think Sony is shooting themselves in both feet, both with hardware and with their words. Every retailer I've talked to about the price has said Sony priced itself out of the race (reflected by poll after poll around the world always showing over 80% of people think PS3 is too expensive generally that it's bad enough to have incluenced their purchasing decision).

And look at what spews forth from Sony. Rumble isn't in because it's "last-gen" (lawsuit with Immersion). BluRay is necessary for next-gen games (Oblivion on 360 still has room to spare). PS3 will definately launch in Spring, the system is still definately completely ready for a Spring 2006 launch, and "I can launch PS3 whenever I want" (Kutaragi less than a month before the new release fell into place). Gamers WOULD be winning if this were a fair competition in which the best system was going to be declared the winner, I agree. But Sony, at least, doesn't seem to be contributing to this.

[Cyclonus]

Fixed

Of course PS3'll do better in Japan. But in the West, many analysts predict a 360 win, and given Sony's E3 performance and business practices of late, I'm more inclined to listen to them.

[FadeToBlack]

Prologic owns

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

Die Sony!!!!!!

[achira]

i think you are seriously sick. there are many sony fans but they are not so sick sitting all day in front of the pc and trying to bash sony. are all american kiddies so brainless ??? i hope not. by the way ms sucks

[pRo loGic II]

You do the same thing Bashing MS all day.lol what makes you worse is the fact that you get offended about it. You seem like one of those Japanamtion Anime freaks. STFU and go play all those weird games of little girls in them. lol

[Aflac]

dont be forgetting the real way past wars got started among fans was because wen original xbox came out, sony fans came right over to xbox sites to mock them out just for giving it a try, and were downright cruel to those who said they liked the xbox. naturally, xbox fans retaliated, and so the war goes on endlessly....

[ssj04]

PS2 sell the most in U.S, and UK. Asia, and than Japan.

So to speak, Sony have more fanbase in the U.S than in japan.

[MISSY E]

And every single one of them is rich enough to spend $600 on ps3. We'll see, i see a slow start and i see MS coming out with too many games ect, to be effected by Sonys fanbase too much.

[Wotbot]

Surely a slow start is a bad thing.

As game developers make money from the amount of games they sell. Meaning they will jump ship to a next gen console with a larger user base.

Game sales talk.

[ssj04]

I remember when Sony came out with the PS2 back in 2000 or so, the average fans of Sony back then were around 14 to 20. Fast forward to today, thoes fans would all grown up to the age of 19 to 26 by now, and they would most definitely have a job. To them the PS3 wouldn't look that much expensiver than then the price of there ipod or cell phone and so on. Original PS3 fans are no longer a kids, they had all grown up and have a job with there own money to spent now. Sony fans will surely save up for the PS3 and they will surely spend alot on the launch day.

[Wotbot]

Having a job has nothing to do with it.

I have a good job, but the PS3 is not worth the £425 at launch. You need a lot of good games and the PS3 may have one or two at the very most.

Also how ever much of a fanboy you are or not, you cannot ignore the 360(or Wii) that will be cheaper and may have 20-30 good games on it. This is the real problem.

Plus all the kids that don't have jobs, you cannot ignore the new generation of users.

I will wait a year or two before making my purchase, when it has more good games and then the console will be worth the money.

[anonymous]

360 may have the price advantage but the ps3 have the hardware advantage. When one look at what the 360 and the PS3 have to offer, one will see that the PS3 offer much more. You argue the price different by 200$ but what are you forgeting is the 500$ version. the 500$ version have all of what the 360 premium had to offer + it have more. It have the blu-ray and the more storage for game developer to make bigger and better games.

You said there are only 1 or 2 games on the PS3 that worth wild. This is me "The hell you talking about?"

I'll name a few Exclusive PS3...

Metal Gear Solid 4
Devil May Cry 4
Tekken
Formula 1
Killzone 3
Ni-Oh
5th Phantom Saga
Heavenly Sword
Killing Day
Motor Storm
Mobile Suit Gundam
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XII Versus
EyeDentity
Warhawk
A ssassin's Creed
6GUN II
The Getaway
Infraworld
Omikron 2
Grand Turismo 5
Virtual Fighter 5
Full Auto 2
Virtua Tennis 3
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
Resistance: Fall of Man
Naughty Dog
Monster Madness
Genji 2
The Eye of Judgment
The Wall
Fatal Inertia

[THE TRUTH]

MS has not taking advantage of the time and opportunity Sont has given them. They have made no steps to show us the next gen crown goes through them. In the year 360 has been out they have shown me nothing but a small upgade in graphics. I expect much more from a company who is supposed to be "hungry" and willing to give us consumers what we want. It's simple to me "GAMES" I want new and exciting games. 600$ these days is not alot of money I see people spend that money on a cell phone. Get real people, as I see it 400$ for the "premium 360" is too much. (I should know I have one along with GRAW, Fight Night, and NBA live). This round I will go for a sure thing in the PS3 and thats just my true feeling

[OutLaw]

Lets see Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Heavenly Sword, VF5 and thats FF13 Not FF12 Sony FANBOY. Besides that I don't see anything else on that list thats worth buying. Lets not say Assassins Creed because that game may have been shown on a 360. So the verdict is out on that one. Now how many of these games are exclusive. After that how many is launch games. Answer those questions? Before you continue on this topic.

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

Are you smoking crack, PS3 will have the same problem with games like 360 did, and don't be tricked by the delay because of the first broken PS3's and the Blu-ray.PS3's melting and not working after a little use was a real problem. It's a real mess. What graphics are all these PS3 fans talking about none of their games matched the best of 360's games. PS3 will be a low quality POS like the PS's before it with boatloads of sh!tty games. But this time around people won't be tricked because of a few pretty games that play like sh!t.

[Dusk]

Assasins Creed will be on the 360.

[BOOSTIN]

whoo hooo! i cant wait to play "the wall" LMFAO! and "monster madness" HAHAHAA!! how about "NI-oh"? ahhhhahhahahaaha! DAMN when are they gonna learn that [email protected] names like that dont fly in america?

[TheMART]

Those PS3 lists have a lot of crap in it.

Only one game we should be looking forward to this year

GEARS OF WAR

and it's only on 360 that's what counts guys. Not CGI Killzone 2 footage for sure

[ssj04]

Ooh yes, your opinion speak for everyone.

You call it list of crap but many will call it list of great games.

I bet you don't even know or check out 60% of the games that I listed, and you call it list of crap. (must be one crappy list i listed up there)I try to be openly minded as much as I can but you just can't seem to stop being a fanboy most of the time, can't you?

[THE TRUTH]

haha thats funny because in the year 360 has been out they have failed to up up a list even 20% close to sony's. your obvioulsy a MS fanboy because you know that they have not given gamers the 60$ worth in any game so far

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

Thats funny coming fron you. Its a matter of tast, but to say 360 has all crappy games is not open minded people think of Sonys line up as being crapy too. Most of them are the same old tierd games. Too many 360 games are comming out and i don't want to paste or make a list for you for you to comment on them with you're closed minded view of MS.

[Cyclonus]

And Killing Day was cancelled.

[ssj04]

I don't see any impressing exclusive on the 360, and you call PS3 exclusive pathetic. I think you the pathetic one whom can't afford the system, so he have to bash it.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

I can afford PS3 but thats not where the future lies. 360 is going to be great trust me on this you dont know the half of it. You dig up info on the PS3 and the 360 exclusives then you tell what you think.

[ssj04]

How sad are all of you? Don't even have the motorvation of reserching your 360 exclusive. You should also know that PC/360 dosn't make it the 360 exclusive.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

Are you from Hungry? thats a cool accent in not being funny. PC/360 don't make it an 360 exclusive. It does when people don't want to spend $3000/$5000 on a PC, nice try though. Are you a really smart European kid? or just European with too much belief in Sonys products, its a passion with you, my friends and I watch you on a big screen LCD and they can't wait to see what you post when the come over.

[BOOSTIN]

microsoft makes a lot of PC games. they OWN the PC market AND the console market. muaahahahahaha!!!

[anonymous]

Games on PC/360 but not on the PS3 do count, since we are talking about the difference between CONSOLES. Here's a list of games on the 360 but not on the PS3:

Mass Effect
Gears of War
Halo 3
Forza 2
Fable 2
Chromehounds
Lost Planet
Too Human
Shadowrun
Alan Wake
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
PGR3
Perfect Dark Zero
Kameo
Call of Duty 2
Prey
Rockstar's Table Tennis
Battle for Middle Earth II
Dead Rising
Dead or Alive 4
Huxley
Ninety Nine Nights
Oblivion
Crackdown
S aint's Row
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball
Top Spin 2
Enchanted Arms
Moto GP '06
Viva Pinata
Bioshock
FEAR

I'm sure this list isn't quite complete, but here it is.

[Dusk]

Don't know why that listed me as anonymous.

[achira]

who wants PGR3. this game is very boring. who wants call of duty 2 if call of duty 3 is released ? oblivion will come to the ps3, bioshock will come to the ps3, and the ps3 gets a better game than FEAR (from the same company, especialy for ps3). the other game will be released to ps3 to, i think, but i dont care, to me they are not so excited.

[schnodder]

33 amazing games!!

[Islandkiwi]

I don't understand why people feel the need to argue to extremes (death to MS and/or Sony). In all likelihood Sony will continue to sell a majority of consoles, but I think there's little question the Wii and 360 will cut into their lead. And the Wii will win in the profit margin.

There's still some big unknowns to determine this with regards to the ps3 and the wii.

ps3: How much are games, is live service completely free, will people like the controller, will people like blu-ray, and will the release of the ps3 go smoothly.

Wii: Will it work at all, will people enjoy playing games with simpler graphics, and can the wii drum up enough developer support?

[BOOSTIN]

its stupid that the japanese would pay 600$ for a console. they probably starve their kids so they can afford it. but its better than giving 400$ to "the enemy" right?

[achira]

i think you are the one who thinks so, and i think you are the one who makes so. why spent 400 bucks on a crappy console (in comparison with ps3)?

[Lucas Kane]

as stated by the one ofthe analysts on Gamasutra( listed on this site), the $500 ver is the better option in comparison to the $600 which, really needed to be introduced later on, and that too, to hardcore videophiles!! that( $500 ver ) has everything which a premium ver of X360 has. The extra price diff is due to the blue ray player. but that extra is a small amount to pay for. even if u feel it is totally forced and feel that games do not exceed the half limit of DVD9, the developers are still gonna use Blue ray discs for games as stated by one of epic's dev, that UT occupied 6 GB compressed on the DVD9 format. So in the future, when games do really get demanding, the size advantage will come to play and MS will definitely add the HDDVD to their console. it is only a matter of time. Plus the advantage of launching one BR disc containing the different ver for different regions. This would also help in driving the game costs down and people from all the territories will be able to enjoy the game on its first release( unlike the present trend where Europe and some other countries have to wait for a couple of months to get their hands on the game!!)

[achira]

the reason is they want to bash the ps3 so they search till they find, thats all.

[ssj04]

Call of Duty 2 (also on PS2, GameCube)
FEAR (also on PS3)
Bioshock (said to come to the PS3 as well)

Metal Gear Solid 4
Devil May Cry 4
Tekken
Formula 1
Killzone 3
Ni-Oh
5th Phantom Saga
Heavenly Sword
Motor Storm
Mobile Suit Gundam
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
EyeDentity
Warhawk
Assassin's Creed
6GUN II
The Getaway
Infraworld
Omikron 2
Grand Turismo 5
Virtual Fighter 5
Full Auto 2
Virtua Tennis 3
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
Resistance: Fall of Man
Naughty Dog
Genji 2
The Eye of Judgment
The Wall
Fatal Inertia

Update:

Final Fantasy VII
Unreal Tournament 2007
Ridge Races 7
Lair
Ratchet and Clank 5
Jack and Decker
Gradius
Armored Core 4
Coded Arms Assault
Hot Shots Golf 5
Afrika
Bladestorm
Heavy Rain
Redwood Falls
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Monster Hunter 3
Monster Kingdom
Dark RPG
Shin Megami Tensei
Project D
Angel Rings
Makai Wars
Endless Saga
Super Robot Taisen
Shin Ten Makai VI
Sunrise Eiyuutan
Shinseiki GPX Cyber Formula
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu

[Cyclonus]

1) PS2 and GC had COD:Big Red One, 360 had totally different game

2) Both Armored Core 4 and Heavy Rain are coming to 360

3) Half of those in your "update" are garbage Japanese games no one will want

4) Do you REALLY want to bring Untold Legends into this?

[ssj04]

Heavy Rain said to be PS3 exclusive, if you could find real good into that state it will also be on the 360 as well, than post that info.

Honest mistake for Armored Core 4.

so you think all of the list I posted is "garbage". Lets check out the 360 list ok.

look like 95% of the 360 games is garbage.

[ssj04]

let see what M$ have instore for you...

Chromehounds (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Too Human (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Dead Rising (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Saint's Row (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Enchanted Arms (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Viva Pinata (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Shadowrun (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Rockstar's Table Tennis (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Ninety Nine Nights (go see the gameplay + graphic)
Enchanted Arms (go see the graphic)

too lazy to go on...

Look at all of thoes pathetic game... lol bunch of joke... haha

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

I think your anti American and thats why you hate MS so much, at first i thought it was just your tast in games but now i know you go out of your way to talk down MS no matter what!, your opinion on games, PS3, and MS is weird!/stupid. PS's are known to have very pretty CGI but piss poor ingame graphics and gameplay so dont try it. You clearly like Japanese style/influenced games over American style games. Do me a favor and STFU, i thought you were smart but your just a fucin kid that reads alot.

[OutLaw]

You keep bringing up a list of games for the PS3 and most of those games are just on paper. I haven't seen any graphics or gameplay for most of those PS3 titles. but on the other side the 360 has shown Mass Effect, Gears of Wars. Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon, Too Human and so on. We'll see how many of those games thats on paper come to life from Sony. For the record I love all games its just sony can't be trusted.

[achira]

nice arguments !!! i think you are the one who can think here, i mean among all this xbox fans here. the normal ps3 fans are not so freaky to sit all day in fron of the pc like the xbox fans.

[ssj04]

One of my favorite game of all time is Diablo II: LOD

Here are the PS3 exclusive games that I'm looking forward to.

Metal Gear Solid 4
Devil May Cry 4
Tekken 6
Killzone 3
Heavenly Sword
Motor Storm
Mobile Suit Gundam
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
EyeDentity
Warhawk
Assassin's Creed
The Getaway
Grand Turismo 5
Virtual Fighter 5
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
Resistance: Fall of Man
Naughty Dog
Genji 2
The Eye of Judgment
The Wall
Final Fantasy VII
Unreal Tournament 2007
Ridge Races 7
Lair
Ratchet and Clank 5
Jack and Dexter
Coded Arms Assault
Hot Shots Golf 5
Heavy Rain
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
WarDevil: Enigma
Singstar

[Dusk]

Assassins Creed, Unreal Tournament '07, are NOT exclusives. There have been screenshots and gameplay from both for the 360. I don't have to go into Assassins Creed's E3 showing, I'm sure you've read about it. Both Ubisoft and Epic have both said the same thing, "We have no announcements of other versions at this time." Previously, both were said to be coming to the 360 and currently, information is being leeked that both still are. Sony paid for TIMED exclusives, not complete exclusives. The game companies just can't talk about them right now. Those two games are as much exclusives to the PS3 as Splinter Cell: DA is to the 360. Plus, many of the PS3 games are on paper only and a lot can change between now and their distant future release date (especially if the 360 has a much larger fanbase from its year head start). In addition, if you want to list a bunch of crappy Japanese games for the PS3, there are also a bunch of low level PC ports and previous generation ports with upgrades that you most likely won't see on the PS3 either. Examples would include Quake 4, Tomb Raider, FIFA WC Germany, Far Cry, BF2:MC, etc. I don't consider these games worth mentioning (although some are very fun), so a bunch of Japanese crap games shouldn't be mentioned either, they cancel each other out.

[Cyclonus]

Most of the 360 titles you just rattled off are very promising, so your point is void. And your not "too lazy to go on", cuz thats all you got...you even had to list Enchanted Arms TWICE. And I dont play JRPGs anyway!

And copy/past all you want, but if you think Dead Rising, Chromehounds,R*s TT, Saints Row, or Viva Pinata are trash, you're out of your tree...

And Too Human in it's E3 state wasn't impressive, but they were rushed by MS into having a playable E3 demo, so dont expect the final product to be bad.

[achira]

when ms has crappy graphic then its called "rushed". and when sony has crappy graphics its called "hype"

[ssj04]

I find thoes games so not appealing. It's my opinion on them, and if you like them it's fine by me. I have noting against your taste in games or taste in style. I didn't trash all of the 360 games did I? I only trash the one that I think is weak or not very appealing in a since of gameplay or graphic wise. I do find Gear of War and Huxley to be very appealing. They both have great graphic and looking to be a very prosmising titles, I can't say the same for Halo 3 because of the disappointment in Halo 2. For Enchanted Arms, it's the graphic that fail me. Dead Rising just seem too repetitive for my taste, Viva Pinata just look too creepy and lame. Too Human is a hype game that had disappointed many 360 owner. The game have very bad graphic and the gameplay itself seem to be very unprosmising. The last but not lease is Saints Row, well all I could say for this title is "go check out the gameplay at gametrailers.com".

[Cyclonus]

I just hate the fact its a TOTAL rip-off of GTA. they're exactly the same....but im still gonna buy it, cuz it'll have online co-op, and I cant wait to get a buddy online to see who can run over the most people in 60 seconds!!!

[THE TRUTH]

it is "his opinions" I dont see why people on these forums take personal offense to someone elses opinions.
fact is 360 has been out a year and it is unforgivable to me as a gamer for them to be call Next-Gen and with a year in the game already they have given us gamers nothing to cheer about. Shame on M$ you had a golden oppurtunity and you let it fly by, I can't believe we as gamers are not pissed at M$ for this.
When you say Next-Gen I think of wii and PS3 and when they launch my 360 will become the worlds most expensive dust magnit.