Final Fantasy 13 - 18.3GB Install for Xbox 360

Ve3tro writes: "Are you ready for Final Fantasy 13? Well if you are and picking up the title on Xbox 360 with the option of installing to your hard drive you will need a good amount of space.

After installing all three discs the total amount of space used up was 18.3GB's, so it's bad news for the (Arcade) 20GB owners."

[red2tango]

lmfao wtf, Square Enix always manages to f*ck something up.

[FangBlade]

what goes around comes around.

[Bereaver]

Don't blame square, this is the 360 talking.

[darthv72]

"After installing all three discs the total amount of space used up was 18.3GB's, so it's bad news for the (Arcade) 20GB owners."

Are there people who game with a 20gb hdd on 360 anymore?

[GreenRingOfLife]

Awesome

I have a 120gb so this is no prob

Can't wait to play this game!

[Ve3tro]

Many people will I'd imagine.

[Keith Olbermann]

OMG!!!! LOL

[WhatARump]

I don't think the install is mandatory so its not that big of a deal for xbox 360 owners...

How do xbox owners without hard drives save their games btw? Always wondered...

[Fishy Fingers]

Judging on the HDD prices I'm sure many who's 360 came with 20GB wont of upgraded. I wouldnt have, but fortunately I have the Elite.

@WhatARump , Arcade models have internal storage, 256/512mb depending on age/model

[ryuzu]

That's gonna be one expensive game when the price of a 120gb is added to it.... and having spent all that cash, you'll still end up with a poor quality port while SE and MS laugh their way to the bank....

Meh, I'd just put up with the disk swapping - yes it's like going back to CD ROM or floppy disk days, but at least MS don't get yet more of your cash on top of all the other crap.

In fact, if you don't want to relive the 90s or the 80s and avoid disk swapping, you'd be better off saving the cash and putting it towards a PS3.

r.

[cmrbe]

The x360 sales when it when the 199 arcade was introduced. I assume alot of people that bought the arcade because of price. The x360 HDD are still rip off's and such those that bought the arcade because of price might not have upgraded.

[we won]

They're bashing and hating on the 360 version as much as they can because they're trying to distract everybody from their lost exclusive's truth. http://n4g.com/NewsPendingC...

They're nervous as heck. It's going to be crazy next month I'm telling you.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The install is optional like 100% of all 360 games, mandatory is for that other console.

@Sarcasm below you can't install the Mass Effect 2 disc 1 without installing disc 2. You will get a disc read error because both need to be installed. http://meforums.bioware.com...

[Sarcasm]

I still have a 20gb on my 360. Heck, for ME2 I had to delete Disc 1 to install Disc 2. Then I was pissed off when I had to go back to Disc 1 and delete Disc 2 and re-install Disc 1. It's a clusterf*ck for 20gb hdd owners who want to do the install. And yes, I love to install the games on the 360 for the quieter operation and less risk of disc scratching.

Oh well, FFXIII on the 360 won't be an issue for me since I'm getting the PS3 version anyway.

I really hope MS drops the price of the 60gb or 120gb HDD's, I'm sick of deleting game installs.

[Smkt]

there are many people with 20gb hdd.. and even more with the arcade version. and i dont see the point of the install when you'll have to swap discs anyway..

[Immortal Kaim]

Umm how is it bad news for arcade owners, they are optional installs...?

Anyway, the real issue here is that 2gb of data hasn't been used across the 3 disks. Install size for 360
* Disc 1: 5.9GB
* Disc 2: 5.8GB
* Disc 3: 6.6GB

Why?

[Sarcasm]

@Immortal, they are optional and it isn't a big issue. But after playing on the 360 with the install option, it's hard to go back to the whining. I commend MS for having this feature. I wish we could do that to PS3 games. Heck, I'll install 33gb of Data if it gets me quieter operation and less wear and tear on the optical drive. Do it Sony!

[Saaking]

While not mandatory, I feel that installs on the 360 ARE mandatory.

If you don't install your game, there's a MUCH bigger chance of:

1.RROD
2.Overheating
3.Disk Scratching

Sucks for 360 owners. They get the THREE disk, SUB-HD, inferior version.

[FamilyGuy]

It's not like you have to install the disc in the first place. If you're a 20gb hdd 360 owner you probably don't choose to install games anyways.

This article is a waste of space.

But from the comments I did at least learn one thing. I never knew you couldn't just install one disc at a time until now. If it's a multi-disc game you have to install it all (apparently(ME2)) and that's kinda strange.

[Immortal Kaim]

I agree, my comment was in relation to the people implying that you would have to buy a larger HDD just to play the game. I also install all my games to the HDD (fortunately I have the 120GB model), and If I only had a 20GB HDD I would just install one at a time (like you did with ME2)...

I still can't get my head around why there is 2GB of data not used in the 360 version...Given the clear visual superiority of the PS3 version, why was that space not used to the benefit of the 360 version?

P.S Saaking, you're a moron, why are you still allowed to post in the gamer zone when you clearly aren't a gamer?

[FamilyGuy]

Immortal, you're confusing me. Above it is said that you have to install all or nothing for the game (ME2 case, Jason360 comment) to work through install play and now you're saying the opposite.

Someone, anyone please clarify?

[Rocket Sauce]

Install disc 1. Play it. Delete it. Install disc 2.

It takes like 5 minutes to install a game, so it's whatevs.

[FamilyGuy]

"Anyway, the real issue here is that 2gb of data hasn't been used across the 3 disks. Install size for 360
* Disc 1: 5.9GB
* Disc 2: 5.8GB
* Disc 3: 6.6GB "

Dude, the majority of the game world is at the end of the game, that's why that disc has more space used...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

FamilyGuy installing 1 disc at a time may work for FF. The disc read error is only for Mass Effect 2 that I know of.

[gaffyh]

@Jason360- that's not true, I installed disc 1 of ME2 and it worked fine without installing the second disc.

[AKNAA]

good going Square... This is what happens when you focus all your attention on the more powerful console first! Hahaha!... PS3, no installs rite??:)

but seriously... 18.34g's!!!?? gawd damn, ps3 install's ain't got sh1t on this!

[Immortal Kaim]

I'm unaware of the ME2 install issue...I have installed the 1st disk by itself and am currently playing through that, when I reach disk 2 I will let you know if there are any issues.

In regards to the space issue, my point is that 2GB of data has not been used across the 3 disks, did the 360 version really need so much compression if that is the case?

[DavidBanner]

For the 360 owners oh yea Babenetta all over again payback is a Bee

[Rocket Sauce]

Fang and Lightning sound like American Gladiators. Are Nitro and Laser in this game, too?

[Lifendz]

LMAO

[Homicide]

"Don't blame square, this is the 360 talking."

Okay, if there's something wrong with the PS3 version, it's the developer's fault. But if there's something wrong with the 360 version, it's the console's fault.

Good to know!

[silvacrest]

at the begining of the 360s life the 20GB option was the only option and is still the cheapest HDD if you dont need a massive amount of space so i imagine there are quite a few people with only 20GB HDDs

[Chubear]

Those that believed a 360 arcade was just good enough if you only wanted to game, and all the millions with 20gig 360s, will now HAVE get a 60gig or larger HDD from MS at $95-$160... wow.

Oh well,

[blue7xx7]

How did Square F*ck this up?? Lost Odyssey was around 25 gb if you installed it.

[SilentNegotiator]

Those are big installs. 20GB owners like myself won't have much choice here.

[fatstarr]

LOl how will you play this if you have an arcade rofl.

18.3 gb install multiple disks and i bet you have to download what ever is missing. lol sometimes sticking with 1 console is good.

[DMason]

What dont you get about OPTIONAL install? Every 360 game has the OPTION. Key word here: OPTION. Arcade owners can play this game if they want. Newer Arcade units have internal memory for save games.

Sometime I wonder if people ever read the actual article...

@Saaking: Will you ever quit?

[RBLAZE1988]

I still have a 20 gig hd 360 and so does my friend so why don't you shut it and stop doin damage control. Maybe it's cause i don't wanna spend 300+ dollars on msofts 250 gb hdd cause they heavily overprice it to get suckers like you. I got a 500 gig hdd for my ps3 for $100 last year.

[DatNJDom81]

Sh!t and I remember certain console fans complaining about MGS installs and all other PS3 installs........... Wow 18.3 Gigs. Im trying so hard not to laugh right now. well.......... :)

[Pika-pie]

Have you people actually played on a 360..

The install is optional! Just like with every game on the 360.

20gb owners will just have to play off the disc

[FamilyGuy]

Thank you for clearing that up

Immortal
"In regards to the space issue, my point is that 2GB of data has not been used across the 3 disks, did the 360 version really need so much compression if that is the case?"

It would look strange if some in-game cut scenes or pre-rendered scene looked better than others so all are compressed equally, no matter how much space was left. The size of each disc is also in relation to a point in the story that square enix felt was a good stopping point for a disc swap. Those two first disc not being filled to the T makes sense when you think about it.

That final disc isn't even filled completely as the actual disc space available to games is around 7.3Gbs

[MGRogue2017]

... I knew the 120GB hard drive on my 360 Elite would come in handy some day! :D

[deafwing]

.. guess a lot of people are going out to buy new internal HDs soon? that's a serious gb footprint.

[solidt12]

Just play the game off the disc. I wouldn't wait for an 18.3 gig install to play this game. It would take too long.

[Man In Black]

I thought it was an 18.3 GB install fpr the PS3 version. I was thinking "Holy Sh!t" :P

[dabri5]

You do not have to install the game at all to play it. If you choose to install it, you can install just the disk you are playing at the time. There is no requirement to install all the disks. It's just stupid the lack of knowledge you people who call yourselves gamers have about game consoles.

Also Please note: 360 game installs are literally just a copy of the disk on the console. The disk is still required to boot the game but once it is loaded (must remain in console) all the data is read off the disk. For PS3 games, only certain data is installed to the hard drive to improve loading times. Data is still read off the disk. This is why all 360 games can be installed even if they came out before Microsoft established the install option. There are PS3 games you can't install because there is no choice. This isn't a point that makes either system better. Just the facts.

-The mass effect thing isn't true. I have it, installed disk 1, got to disk 2 in about 4 hours, put in disk 2, deleted disk 1, installed disk 2, read online that disk 1 just contains the opening of the game and all the different endings of the game (disk 2 has everything else in the game), so when it was time to beat the game, I put disk 1 back in the system, deleted disk 2 and just played the last hour off the DVD instead of installing. I had no disk read errors and no problems.

[AAACE5]

It's for installing the game! Alot of the Ps3 owners might get the wrong idea. The 360 doesn't need mandatory installs like you are used to. I install all of my games to my HDD so that the disc doesn't have to spin and the system stays cooler.

For those who still don't get it... You can still play this with an arvade unit without a HDD!

I'm shocked that it takes up about as much space as Lost Odyssey.

[Christopher]

Yeah, that would leave me with -14GB of space on my 360...

I'm thinking of holding off on this game for a while, though. I need to see some better videos displaying combat later in the game that will make me want to believe it's not just more of a attack/magic menu hunt game and that there's something more tactical and enjoyable there.

[Hoggy1983]

So let me get this straight about how the 360 version is a disaster-
a) The game is not full hd but still looks good.
b) The game is on a few disks meaning you have to get off your ass and change it every 8+ hours. (Alternatively you can wait for a more able bodied person to come home.)
c) IF YOU WANT TO you can install the game but itll take up alot of space. But this is not mandatory!

So N4G has been churning up this anti-360 FF stuff for weeks and it boils down to this absolutely neglegible guff?

[DarkAzureIIIX]

the 2gb or so is for encryption. which doesn't seem to work anyway.

[Parapraxis]

So...They could have fit twice that much data on 1 blu ray.
Disappointing to say the least.
S-E said on record that they cut enough for another full game.
I think what they really should have said is, "we cut enough to fill the other half of 1 blu-ray disc, but instead of having a 6-disc 360 version we decided to sacrifice our full vision of the game in the hopes we may sell an extra 500 000 copies on the 360".

[ryuzu]

Well not quite - bear in mind the BR version on PS3 has far better quality video and audio. So there's not necessarily much more quantity available, but the PS3 clearly gets more quality...

Seem to be the way this gen is playing out.

r.

[Guitardr85]

Out of curiosity, has Squeenix told us how much of the BR space they are taking up? That would be interesting to note, lol!

[dabri5]

Companies cut content out of games all the time. Not because of disk space. Movies do it too. Do you think its to fit a movie on a DVD when it comes out? A lot of content is cut from games because it isn't finished and would cause another delay in development, which is usually why we see it as DLC later. There are exceptions to this and I'm sure there is truely content that does get cut from some game out there because of disk limitations. Here is my reasoning this isn't the case for FFXIII. If it was cut because it couldn't fit on the disk but was complete content? Why not release it as day one DLC then? That is basically money they would get for something they wouldn't have to put any extra work into. To not sell content that is complete is just stupid and isn't business smart. SE wouldn't stand for that. The content wasn't finished and thus cut, for time reasons. Not disk space. SE isn't going to release any DLC for the game (according to them) because they don't want to invest anymore time on working on the game. Working on finishing content that was cut.

[jack who]

i see sony fan forgot bout compression

[blitz0623]

What were you saying bots?

"Bluray is not needed, there are still installs!"

Karma's a b!tch.

[jack who]

so i need blue ray so i can have 60 min of cgi movie at 1080P...i prefer that space be wasted on game content not cgi movie

[kaz-hirai]

Compression ? Thats what made the 360 the worst version ;-D!!! Silly bots ;-D!!!!

[we won]

Some people are saying the PS3 version is 38 gigs but we all know the gameplay parts are duplicated.

[Sigh]

you mean you prefer to spend $$$ on DLC game content that was cut.

[Comet]

Hmm... of course it isn't! I'll just install 18.3GB on my 20GB 360 Arcade!

/sarcasm

[Gue1]

Poor jack who and his lame contradiction.... You don't like FFXIII? Then what are you doing here? Oh yeah, trying to defend the X360 version at all cost with retarded comments like a bot!

But the poor thing is so stupid that he can't do any other thing that contradict himself. =(

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and the bots were keeping laughing at us when some games had 5GB installs!!! like DMC4 and others!!

[Bill Gates]

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[Nitrowolf2]

but dam, biggest optional install ever (on console) for just one game, lol i don't even think the PS3 versin has an optional install

[Marty8370]

Only bots lacking space.

My PS3 has a 640Gb hard drive.

Jump Out, Play B3yond

[Selma_Blair]

I honestly can't wait for Playstation 4 so you geeks can stop saying "play b3yond"

[Lou Ferrigno]

I LOOOOOVED hellboy 2 :)

[nefertis]

Playb3yond

[Jerk120]

It's typical Sony fanboys.

Sony coins something lame and because they're unable to think of anything by themselves (it being lame or not), they steal it, overuse it, and latch on it for months.