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Halo Gamers Officially Can't Distinguish Between Alpha, Beta Or Gold

Cinemablend says "We conducted a poll here at Blend Games to see if gamers could tell the difference between late alpha (pre-beta) shots of Halo 3 and gold shots of Halo 3. It's probably not surprising that the results prove that gamers honestly can't tell the difference between the various stages of development for the game..."

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this is just ps3 fanboyism amd not an actual posting.
TheXgamerLive5171d ago WhoDisagree(0)Agree(0)
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What a ridiculous article. This is just something to feed the PS3 fanboys, nothing else. Literally anyone could have taken the poll, it has nothing to do with gamers. Heck, I'm sure most of the votes were from PS3 fanboys themselves. We all know this site is packed full of them. Plus, the screenshots that were there were a load of crap. This article needs to go.
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feelintheflow5171d ago WhoDisagree(0)Agree(0)
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This is pretty lame!
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LordMarius5171d ago

So I guess we can blow the whole
"OMG I cant believe it looks this good and its still in Alpha-stage yatta yatta"

Paradicia5171d ago

"Bungie should just abandon the whole graphics revolution thing because it’s going to hurt a heck of a lot more in the long run when games like Brink, Spec Ops: The Line and Medal of Honor roll around and make Halo: Reach look like a visual after thought."

Saying that Reach looks like a visual after thought is just downright ignorant. Its funny that he labels the people who took his comparison Halo gamers. Anyone could of took his poll. There was even a comparison of the alpha and gold versions of killzone 2 in his past article he refers back to in the text.

Pathetic journalism at its finest people.

Immortal3215171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

it's not on a system where the graphic are ahead of it's time.

halo gamer old saying, "Gameplay over Graphics."

after reading the "pictures"....
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Im sure damage control for this game will come on N4G soon.

I can't believe this game been in development since halo3! Not even the halo gamers can tell the difference between alpha and gold.

-EvoAnubis-5171d ago

While I don't think that calling it a 'visual afterthought' is fair, unless Bungie is making a new engine for this game I can't see it comparing on a graphical level to most games that will launch around the same time.

Will the game be fun? No doubt; Bungie makes good games, and their games aren't really about graphics much at all. It'll be fun, and have a multi-player that will far outlast anything else in the foreseeable future.

ryuzu5171d ago

Seems strange since about 6 months ago, this site was one of the biggest 360 cheer leaders around. Maybe he got a PS3 for Christmas :)

Anyways, the reality is that released shots of games whether it be Alpha, Beta, Gold, Demo blah blah, rarely change in any significant way for release. The simple reason is that it takes a long time to get the artefacts ready - the textures, the light sources, the animations etc etc. If you are going to make a significant order of magnitude graphical change, all those artefacts have to be reworked - and that can take months and even years.

Once you have your models, textures, maps in place, there isn't much more that can change. Yes you might get a bit of extra dynamic lighting fidelity, or some other full scene graphical effect - but the underlying textures, animations, models are fixed and its those things that make the big difference to your visuals (unless they do a Splinter Cell and start again!).

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Beefstew4u5171d ago

I think you're missing the point of the article

MajesticBeast5171d ago

Sadly the gameplay also isn't much just like the graphics.

GreenRingOfLife5171d ago

They are comparing Halo 3's development to Halo Reach. bad article

Immortal3215171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

I can't believe you said that.

I predict a lot of disagrees on your comment.

@below

umm? you deserve a sticker.

we won5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Ok this PS3 fanboy damage control and desperation is getting out of hand now. Halo Reach is not Halo 3. The the Year of the 360 is going to be one filled with rabid PS3 fanboys causing chaos in gaming and man child articles bashing the 360 will be more common than actual PS3 news.

This article/poll is an excuse to do damage control because of Halo, a stealth attack due to fear of the game, trying to set the tone and popular opinion of the game before it comes out.

Sitdown5171d ago

let me get this straight. Just because random people can not notice the difference between alpha, beta and gold for Halo 3, we are to assume that we should not expect much from the final graphic version of Reach, even though most believe Reach is already beyond Halo 3...and are pleased? Hmmm...care to share the photos? Its easy to search for the perfect screen shots to skew the data to report in the manner you would like. Ex..get the very best shot from the alpha, beta and the worse of the gold..and of course, people might have a hard time.

Cold 20005171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Cant wait for Halo Reach.

Wouldnt want to be on the other side of the fence i.e on N4G when the beast is released ^^

Local multiplayer with my brothers is what I'm looking forward to the most.

@below: I am really far from being a Halo fan, I'm not even that familiar with the story and FPS is the genre I play the least but after seeing the vidoc this is a day one buy for me.

UnwanteDreamz5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Halo is a great game but its release only matters to fans. Halo Reach is getting lots of attention from the press and I am sure it is deserving but to think this game will shut anyone up is naive to say the least. Those who give a d*mn probably already have it preordered and those who don't care never will.

I am not a Halo fanboy but I know a good game when I see one and Reach looks like it is gonna be great.

EDIT: I wasn't saying you had to be a fan to buy it but that you had to be a fan to care. If you don't like Halo its release is just another day to you.

ProjectVulcan5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Rather silly article trying to associate halo 3, reach and its pre alpha to final, BUT as an aside quite a lot of games' engines are 'fixed' or 'set' relatively early in development after some design parameters have been agreed, so everything done after that point wont 'break' the game as badly- its unlikely reach will get much more than visual tweaks but then what else is new? Few games really change hugely with regards to graphics with only six months or so to release- otherwise all those early official shots wouldnt remotely resemble the finished product lol.

This is why every developer bangs on about 'polishing' as the latter stages. They are just going to try and squash as many bugs as possible, balance and ensure stability of the final code. At the point of a couple months left, no developer is still looking at fiddling with the underlying engine, beyond maybe visual artifacts or colour filters and whatnot.

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iceice1235171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Just wondering how this makes you feel.

God of War 3 near final build: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3...

Halo: Reach PRE ALPHA: http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

Pre Alpha Halo: Reach looks like a beautiful piece of concept art. But it's not, that's an in game screenshot. The God of War 3 shot? That's a shot from January, near final build. Pretty disappointing for the PS3's biggest game. What's up with the low resolution blurry grass, lol?

JonnyBadfinger5171d ago

lol i too am interested to see how Saaking will spin those screen shots.

It impossible to compare to the production process of 2 games. Every Bungie game has had a different Project Leader, so the build process would vary from leader to leader.

And not to mention Bungie Studios has grown alot in size since Halo 3, so more people working on something means things can be improved alot quicker than they once could.

Sorry PS3 fanboys, but i have already pre-ordered my copy of Halo Reach... i win, you ruse!

SilentNegotiator5171d ago

Halo Gamers have never been a tech-savvy group.

And before they all say "Gameplay over graphics", I am going to say that there is no reason we shouldn't be given both, unlike with the last 2 installments. And with the main things we've seen being tiny hillside maps, there's no excuse for them to not go native 720p. And AA would be nice, too.

Noob5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

How do you call that disappointing? Do you not see that enormous monster in the back? The scale of GOWIII is HUGE. You'd have to be a hater to call that disappointing or worse looking than Halo. There's nothing in that boring screen shot of Halo that holds a candle to what's going on in that GOW pic. There's nothing special about it at all as a matter of fact. I have seen too many game images from consoles that I could post that put it to shame. You're better off sticking with the "at least the gameplay is better" argument, which is subjective

Hold on a second...are you being sarcastic?

wicko5171d ago

Hi I'm icewake, and I'm going to pick the best halo reach screenshot I can find, and the worst GOW3 screenshot I can find. It's proof that Reach graphics > GoW3 graphics!!!!

Seriously, this is your argument?

SixZeroFour5171d ago

my first question is "how many ppl took this poll? in relation to the 800k that play it everyday or even the 10+mil that have/had a copy" took a quick read and didnt exactly see any numbers relating to that

2nd question "how was this poll moderated so that only halo players took the poll?" or even "how was this moderated so that only ppl with xboxes, multiconsole owners or not, took the poll?"

once i see these answers, then ill come up with my own perception of whether or not HALO gamers can tell the difference

pixelsword5171d ago

...I'm not really caring if anyone can tell the difference, as long as the finished product looks good.

SPACEBALL 15170d ago (Edited 5170d ago )

this reminds me of all the morons tellin us mag would be dramatically better than the beta. how did that work? it still the same game as the first wave of the beta and its just straight up a sh1tty game.

The Lazy One5170d ago

I'm pretty sure that someone pointed out that he didn't actually use any alpha shots in their comparison when the original article was posted.

Nevers5170d ago

how this drivel gets approval... total hack "journalism" ... nevermind... it fits... Hack Journalism for a Hack Journalism Site.

N4Loss

creatchee5170d ago

Graphics really shouldn't change from Alpha to Gold, as the models, textures, and such are part of the base of the game (unless there are specific changes that need to be made).

The fluidity of the animations, the framerate, the screen not tearing - those are the big improvements that you see by the time you get to Gold. There are others of course, but "better graphics" typically isn't one.

And you certainly won't see major differences if you compare still pictures. It's more of an "in-motion" kind of thing.

2cents5170d ago

"So more than anything, especially at this stage in the development game, Bungie should just abandon the whole graphics revolution thing because it’s going to hurt a heck of a lot more in the long run when games like Brink, Spec Ops: The Line and Medal of Honor roll around and make Halo: Reach look like a visual after thought."

??? wtf

The only people its gonna hurt are haters. Everyone else who will be playing it will be seeing a lot more depth to this 'visual after thought'.

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MetalGearRising5171d ago

Yes we understand u hate Halo Reach....... what's this the Fifth Article about Halo Reach from this Pathetic Butt Hurt Fan Retard.

Anorexorcist5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

The only pathetic butt hurt fan retard I see in here (and in EVERY DAMN PS3-related article) is you!

Yeah it hurts, but you know you like it!

GiantEnemyCrab5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Yes, we get it you don't like Reach and you seem to not like the 360 or MS much either.

Wow, so your silly little poll on your unpopular website is now official evidence that Halo gamers can't distinguish between alpha, beta or gold. You should start running election polls since you seem to capture the majority on your gaming site.. LMAO

What a desperate attempt at disparaging gamers.. Because that is who took your poll, not necessarily HALO gamers and you can't prove one way or another.

(not meant to be a reply sorry)

Bungie5171d ago

more damage control

wow Reach is really scaring teh droids

i still think ps3 is great to watch movies

MAG_SVER5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

I THINK THE xboxpleasefixme is a good Heater for my Condo..it gets really hot & then RROD.. or maybe in the summer I can use it as a Fan, considering the damn this is louder than my vacuum..there FIX !!!

Xbox-gamertag: maytr1x ..the truth hurts sorry but that piece of crap is a GIMMICK.

Ps3-Id: maytryx... " It Only Does Everything" except multiple disk for 1 game..SONY 4 DA WIN.. BY DA GODS.....dun dun dunnnnn KRATOS

OOOOHHH yeah Madison is Hot in Heavy Rain, maybe she can be your girlfriend & u can finally get a life from this site & laid .. VIRTUALLY !!!

Nitrowolf25171d ago

lol come on reach is doing damage to us droids?
no, i will be honest its a great looking game and i am actually excited for it(havn't been since halo 2), but come on compare it other ps3 exclusive it isn't that pretty. Like i said i am actually a looking forward to this halo game because it is a jump from the previouse one.

ssipmraw5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

atleast we can watch hd movies on bluray on our system along side dvds without having to worry about our system exploding

cant say the same for your system

as for damage control why is it that 2 360 fanboys were the first to post here?

cereal_killa5171d ago (Edited 5171d ago )

Because they are the same person.

Bungie = PP/MetalgearMuppet/Greenringof life/PS3hasonlyflopgames.And I'm sure he has more pathetic little Muppet.

Hahaha Disagree all you want bungie you know it's true.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5171d ago

I played Heavy Rain the other day on my 360 :) seriously I started a movie and used the controller buttons to stop, pause, rewind, and fast forward the movie... just like Heavy Rain.

Ilikegames765171d ago

can't distinguish. Right from wrong, reliable from unreliable, great games from stupid games to name a few.

TengkuAmir105171d ago

Using two account to comment on one article isn't funny anymore.

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Software_Lover5171d ago

The point in bringing up a nearly 3 year old game? And people wonder why Halo is so popular. People just cant stop talking about it whether it is good or bad. I dont really play Halo but I find it funny none-the-less.

And then the demeaning way in which they are implying that "Halo Players" are dumb somehow. I know it doesn't just come out and say that. But thats what the title implies without reading the article.

Tricksy5170d ago

No offence.. but Halo players:

Play an FPS.
Own an Xbox 360.
Pay to play online.
Believe a halo game will have graphics worth talking about in comparison to other games in 2010.

So yah, I think d**B is apt... but thats just me.

From personal experience-

There is a Halo player at my work.There are in fact many, however I will talk about the one I know personally. Why do I call him a Halo player you ask? Why not a person,co-worker or human being? Good question.

Like many Halo players he talks incessantly about his hobbies; Halo, the 360 and guns. In his training class( I was lucky enough to be in an earlier class) he was sad enough to have been designated "Halo" by the class. To make matters worse Halo has continued to be an incessant FPS/Halo/306 and of course gun fanboy to the embarresment, I would think, of any rational 360 user(if they exist). The worst is his constant tie-in and transitioning statements from his Halo/360 talk to his time in the reserves and his arms training. Which I see as telling of his thought process and mind set.

Judging from the others in my workplace who are fans of the game/genre/360/guns this Halo personality and corelating intelligence level is very telling of the majority of Halo players I would think, and many 360 players as well.

Halo is currently playing MW2... no surprise there.

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Ranking Every Halo Game From Worst To Best

Not every Halo game has been a banger, but the franchise still has a raft of the greatest games of all time.

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HellspawnPR1981101d ago

Infinite is a dumpster fire and as much as I like ODST, in no universe it ranks above Halo 2. This list is trash.

Kaii101d ago

Just exclude Infinite>5>4

ChasterMies101d ago

Best to worst: Halo 3, Halo 2, Halo Reach, Halo CE, Halo 4, Halo ODST, Halo Infinite, Halo 5.

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The 7 Best Xbox 360 Games - Console Exclusives Win the Day

The Xbox 360 was a fantastic console in its day with some truly classic titles, but what are the seven best games for the console?

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DrDoomer138d ago

I'm pretty used to these lists being bad, but this one is particularly s#ite.

raWfodog138d ago

I think Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon should have been added to the list.

BrainSyphoned138d ago

I'll go with,
Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Culdcept Saga, Shadow Complex, Ace Combat 6 with the flight stick,A Kingdom for Keflings, A World of Keflings.
Bonus Kinect Games: Happy Action Theater and Sesame Street.
*Skyrim was so bad on PS3 that it almost deserves to be #1*

Husker42c138d ago

I really loved Shadow Complex.

P_Bomb138d ago

Ah yes, Shadow Complex! Good indies back in the day. Summer of Arcade. I enjoyed Trials Evolution as well.

ChasterMies138d ago (Edited 138d ago )

Was this made by a.i.? No human being would put Shadowrun, Fable III, and Splinter Cell: Conviction into a list of the 7 best Xbox 360 games.

Abnor_Mal138d ago (Edited 138d ago )

Would love to play Ace Combat6 on PlayStation, but Xbox decided to buy exclusivity and keep it off a competing platform.

The only mainline game I never played except for one level at a friends place. Game sold less than any other in the series if I remember correctly.

darthv72137d ago

360 had Namco hitters AC6 and RR6... both quality titles. You should at least bust out the 360 for AC6 if you can score the flight stick. Its great.

Hofstaderman138d ago

When the current gen XBOX offering is so lacking people need to refer to games released two generations back....

Profchaos137d ago (Edited 137d ago )

It's a nostalgia peice same reason we get thousands of YouTube videos on sega genisis. Something people have fond memories for but the era is long gone.

It's xboxs golden year imo it was their genisis years the time where they stuck it to the market leaders Sony.

BehindTheRows137d ago

They stuck nothing. Sony screwed themselves giving Xbox an opening. They would have gotten the usual smack down if the PS3 had launched at $399 and was easier to develop for.

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The Xbox 360 launched in North America 18 years ago, and is now officially old enough to buy you a drink in Europe.

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darthv72149d ago

Great platform, and many of its games (not bc) still hold up well to this day. Like the PS3, I keep a 360 hooked up for those games you can't play any other way.

isarai149d ago

The last gasp of greatness from XBox, you are missed, except the RROD that was lame, but amazing exclusives until the Kinect dropped.

TheBrainZ149d ago

So many brilliant games. I still have one stored somewhere.

LG_Fox_Brazil149d ago

I really enjoyed my X360, some great exclusives on it. Used to play the shit out ot Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, two masterpieces