While the consoles get all the glory there are plenty of reasons why the PC should still be considered the best gaming platform.
ok. Theres been a shift of power. The power now lies with the consoles. Not saying pc gaming is dead im just stating that its not what it was
Consoles simply make gaming more accessible to those without high end PCs nowadays. And the only reason more publishers are straying from PC is because of the media blow up of a "piracy epidemic" in the industry.
Like Jesus Christ Pc gaming will resurrect from the seemingly 'dead' even though its still the best on the market.
It may be more of a Niche market than consoles, but the flexibility of gaming on PC is unmatchable on other platforms. As owner of a PS3, 360, Wii, iPhone3GS and a powerful gaming PC, no platform gives me as much freedom as the PC. Best graphics? PC. Most user choice over control and gameplay? PC. Highest resolution? PC. Fees to play online? None (excluding MMOs). Longest cycle? PC gaming is over 25 years old now, and even the oldest games are playable on my brand new PC. How is that for backwards compatibility? ;) widest array of digital distribution? PC. I could go on if anyone wants but typing this out on the iPhone at eight in the morning (still in bed) is getting tedious. And everyone should look at Geralt's list of games below before putting foot in mouth about PC gaming's lineup.
I own a PC and yes I do think it's the best platform. Both my PS3 and PC get equal time... For exclusives, PS3 wins hands down for me, but when it comes to playing majority of the games, I prefer the PC for obvious reasons (price, better graphics, mods...). And it's really cheap to make a rig that plays 99% of the games (that 1% comprises of Crysis at Very High).Even a cheap card like the 9800GT from Nvidia can run nearly all games currently available on high settings. So people should just stop complaining and game on a PC, the advantages are awesome (play 90% 360 exclusives and multi-plats at 2wice the resolution of the console counterparts). No matter what anyone says, PC will remain my favorite plaform even though I am a PS3 fan. Customization trumps any console.
And most expensive.
PC will rule again soon. PC games have been getting pushed around. They are still getting bought. It is clear that digital platforms are growing. There are up to 5 digital distribution PC platforms and a few more coming as well as OnLive, GaiKai, OTOY, iConsole, and whatever cloud platforms. Piracy and High End games that many fear being able to not keep up with are the main two problems the media has throw out there to scare people away from the platform as well as Retail outlets hiding the PC selection of games in remote areas away from the other platforms.
Dont be deluded by the consoles 300$ price tag. Thats the only thing cheap about it. Later on consoles are very costly in comparison to PC and perform no where close to the PC.
The PC isn't dead or dying there is no power shift from PC to console and in reality the PC is the same. So far out in front of the console that you may think the console is huge right now but in reality you just can't understand how great the PC is. PC gaming is the best and will always be the best. This console generation in reality hasn't done the numbers that Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis did ( 50 million and 41 million) especially with the round the clock advertising. The PC rarely advertises it's games on TV so you don't here about it so the BUZZ isn't that big. The BUZZ THe Hype is why people think consoles are on top right now while the PC quietly continues it's leadership of New technology and best gaming experience. The Pc is doing things that consoles just can't. Massive Multiplayer Online games are huge right now for the PC and not just World of Warcraft either. EVE AION Planet Calypso (uses real money) LOTR STAR Wars Star Trek and many others have millions of gamers on a server all at once gaming. World of Warcraft alone rivals xboxlive as far as gamers online at any given moment. Eyefinity is really taking off. Console gamers alway like to say well I can play on my couch and play on the big screen. Well I can too but very shortly with Eyefiniy connecting 6 30" monitors together it will out perform and out do every big screen TV available. Playing games in ULTRA HD 7680x3200 when consoles can barely do HD 1280 x 720 So that's just a few examples of the Superior gaming experience from the quiet leader in video gaming. The exclusive Pc gaming list for 2010 is once again HUGE easily triple that of 360 and double that of PS3. PC games are played for a longer period than console games because of more DLC and more importanly MODS which the console can't do.
First off to the the title that says "PC is the best gaming platform". Not for me it is not, back in the day i had good times playing PC games. But right now IMO for me console blows the doors off of PC for gaming. I love the no hassle just pop in and play and being able to chat at anytime or with anyone i want. Connect you and your friends much better than any PC can do. Dont have to set up a server for teamspeak or pay for fee's for one or whatever. See my friends online click his name and click join session in progress, can't get any easier than that. I can sit in front of 120 screen and relax and kick back on the couch and play with controller in hand. Now i can hook my PC up to my projector, but i have yet found a way to play with a mouse and keyboard comfortable while i am kicked back and relaxed on my couch. Dont have to worry about why this game or that game is locking up or having video issues and go look for patches or update drivers etc. I haven't updated my MB or video card drivers in over 2 years, and i could care less too as long as my comp works with my basic needs. And leave my gaming to my consoles. To the guy above me "Eyefinity is really taking off. Console gamers alway like to say well I can play on my couch and play on the big screen. Well I can too but very shortly with Eyefiniy connecting 6 30" monitors together it will out perform and out do every big screen TV available. Playing games in ULTRA HD 7680x3200 when consoles can barely do HD 1280 x 720" ROFL man this is some funny stuff.And how much does that cost? Thought so. I am sorry but i cant stand having my screen split into 6 separate sections. I have 3 24' dell monitors now i cant stand gaming on due to the separations much less having 6. Works well for photoshop though which is what i use it for.
It has always been a better platform. Albeit not always the cheapest, but that does not keep it from being the best. Just because ford sells more mustangs than GT40s DOES NOT make the mustang the faster/better car just because of market saturation.
@2Spock: you are essentially describing steam, except with steam, you don't even have to put a disc in, you just dbl-click the game you feel like playing. What I sometimes do is have a single-player game open in the background (yeah, PC can run two games at once), while waiting for ppl to join in MP games, or during downtimes, when I'm waiting for a round to end, etc., so I just hit ctrl+esc and play some Singleplayer, and when I get a message from a pal that next round is starting, switch over to the other game and continue...
Is that why the top 5 rated games on PC last year were ALL on console? This is why Crysis is coming to consoles. Gaming Consoles are more marketable for Gaming. They are built for specfically for that task. No one cares to play a game in Bagilion 80p if your choices are limited. Games like Uncharted 2, Alan Wake, God of War 3, and Final Fantasy XIII being console exclusives hurt PC in terms of variety. PC is great for MMOs and RTS. Consoles own everything else. For Example Mass Effect 2 is on PC yet a large majority of marketing (95%) is for the Xbox360. Im sure ME2 sales reflect this as well. Halo 3 has out performed any PC FPS ever and PC spawned the genre. Then PC gamers have to cling to the oldest titles Half Life, World of Warcraft and Crysis and new versions arent made in years (5-10). 1 thing I do give credit to is that the Mods make it worth it. Things are shifting in favor of consoles.
Half-Life 2 has sold almost double that of Halo 3... Half-Life 2 sold about 8 million at retail, and more double that on Steam.
I will admit for about a week I thought that consoles were going to take over. But then I was bored one day and started messin around with my eyefinity settings with my 2 24" 1080p monitors. When I got to experimenting with nba2k10, cs source, cod4...I realized eyefinity was the greatest thing to grace gaming this decade. I really do need another monitor for fps games (the bezels of the monitor get in the way of the crosshair). So I'll definately be hooking up my old 19" viewsonic vx922 into this eyefinity setup. Words are hard to describe the amount of immersion you feel when your literally turning your head left and right and realize you're still "in the game". pc gaming has just ascended into yet another level that console gamers could only dream of. PC gaming has reached pure bliss. Mechwarrior 5 in eyefinity will be perfection. "That meant upgrade time! As a geek this is an exciting time where I get to spend hours looking at Newegg, reading reviews and checking the hardware charts at Tomshardware.com. The price wasn't going to be cheap but if I get three years out of this setup its more than worth it." I really can relate to this part of the article as upgrade time makes me warm and fuzzy inside. I love upgrade time (disclaimer: this is a hobby of mine, as I am a pc enthusiast. I do it because its fun and I have the money to do it. Only a select few here at N4G would understand this) 2spocks comment made me lawl ". But right now IMO for me console blows the doors off of PC for gaming. I love the no hassle just pop in and play and being able to chat at anytime or with anyone i want. Connect you and your friends much better than any PC can do. Dont have to set up a server for teamspeak or pay for fee's for one or whatever. See my friends online click his name and click join session in progress, can't get any easier than that." I can do the same and even join a game in progress without having to switch out ancient, space wasting cd/dvd/blu-ray. I could even talk to my friends without having to listen to all the tweenies cry when they get destroyed by us. Though I do enjoy it on the 360. I use the xim360 and so when I go 35or40 and 1 with my mouse and keyboard. It's always fun to hear everyone crying afterwards.
wow so you hook up your keyboard to kill teenagers using a standard controller on the 360, to hear'em cry afterwards? Seriously, who's the REAL loser?...the people on this site sometimes...
ya thats pretty much it. u mad?
Consoles power and GFX have hit the point where the pull of the couch, wireless controllers, big screen TV, and home theater surround sound usually win out over that extra bit of GFX performance and mouse/KB control for me and my family. I still buy some titles for PC because of it but 3 or four people don't fit in my computer room, there's no couch, the screen is small, so the game has to be a non-social type (FPS/RTS/MMO/RPG) and sometimes the games do not even work right or perform well unless messed around with due to the myriad of hardware/OS/driver issues surrounding an open platform. The PC rules... from the grave.
But barely get any exclusive titles worth mentioning, let alone the multiplatform titles on consoles. Also, PC games don't sell well at all so it's only a matter of time before most developers start dropping PC support.
Too much money generated to even consider dropping support.
Oh yeah, what are the great games that can ONLY be played on the PC?
Crysis Crysis Warhead Empire: Total War Eve Online The Sims 3 Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War II Anno 1404: Dawn of Discovery Football Manager Men of War Arma II Battleforge Demigod Guild Wars Torchlight STALKER series Star Trek Online World of Warcraft Age of Conan Upcoming games that look great? All Points Bulletin The Settlers 7 Guild Wars 2 Starcraft 2 Command and Conquer 4 Napoleon: Total War Star Wars: The Old Republic Drakensang: The River of Time R.U.S.E. Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad Natural Selection 2 Supreme Commander 2 Want more? I can give more if you want, they're just the ones that I enjoyed personally / am looking forward to the most. And that's not really including the hundreds of awesome indie games out there. ;)
For example the ones that I know for sure: R.U.S.E. C&C4 Supreme Commander 2 I also heard that the Sims 3 is comming to consoles as well. But for all these games I can name just as many console exclusives. Plus you don't have to be a tech guru to get the best out of your console and don't have to play around with the settings for an hour before I can actually play a game. :)
And add to that every Valve game because, despite their genuine efforts to translate it to 360, they are bred to be PC games and are a completely different experience on that platform. Team Fotress 2 on consoles = lol.
Owned by Geralt's response. PC gaming is King.
But they still wont' be as nice as they are on pc. : )
Yea but the console versions dont compare to the pc and PC is much much cheaper.
Thats a funny list you gave even though some are coming to consoles. But out of all those games there is not a single game you listed that has a great single player experience or even a good one for that matter. And pretty much all of those just have an average multiplayer experience. That just proves the point even further of how bad PC gaming is right now.
@2Spock: So, you've played all those games and didn't enjoy them? Or how do you know they don't provide "great singleplayer experiences"? And even if you did, how would your opinion prove the point that pc gaming is so bad right now?
The sequels for a lot of these games (ex: Crysis) are being developed for consoles or on consoles first, now. This gives some feel for how things are headed, IMHO.
Yes PCs capable of best gfx and highly costumizible and there is no need to worry about older games because all should run on the PC but the thing is that a console is way too comfortable and gives you good enough gfx to amaze you. For example many games on the PS3 just amazed me. Like MGS4, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2...in terms of gfx and it's very confrotable to play from the couch watching things go down on a 52" TV!
hooked to 40' plus, 1080p TV's. I play on those PC's with an Xbox 360 controller while I sit on the couch. There is no reason you can't play a PC in the same manner as a console, if you wish.
...you have to play around with EVERY game for 30-60 minutes to get the most out of it from your PC because of the video card...the ram...the processor.... It's just a pain. I used to play on PC's. Never again.
Really, what computer were you using? I put my game in the computer, put every setting to maximum, and play. Even large games like Fallout 3 with ALL it's DLC installed in less than 15 minutes. Done...in hardly the amount of time you are describing.
Nobody is trying to force you to play PC, and nobody is trying to say PS3 is somehow stupid. I think Pogibaldy is simply trying to point out that PC gaming can be very straightforward - and played like a console - without the difficulties you are insinuating. Oh, and it doesn't take an hour to get a game running on PC. That's just not accurate.
I remember I always had to tweak the settings so I can get the most out of my PC with the game I was playing atm and it did take time...especially when I had to restart the game every time I changed something in the settings. It does take time to get the most out of your PC if you don't have the best out there.
3yr old hardware like the 8800gtx maxes out any multiplat game on the pc. gpus are too powerful now. all you have to do is scroll to max settings and play. this isnt early 2000 anymore where large leaps in graphics are taking place every other year and new hardware is needed to keep up. If a 7800gtx on the ps3 can play a certain game, 8800gtx will always out do it and thats a proven fact there isnt one multiplayer game out there the ps3 can run better then a 8800gtx.
Youre @ss too. I have a 9800 with 4 gig's of ram and dual core Cpu. And i cant even come close to maxing out all games on the PC. I understand you are upset so you are throwing out false information, but at least state something that is remotely believable...OK!
what game is it you couldnt max out and at what res? anything asides crysis should run fine @ 1080p 2xaa - 4xaa dependng on game and i can back up my statement by linking you to benchmarks. http://www.tomshardware.com... here is a link to farcry 2 bench mark, 9800gtx runs the game @ 1080p 50fps(from what i recall both the consoles were running this in sub hd and still hardly managing 30fps), thats way above any console can claim. Farcry 2 being one of the most stressful multiplats out this gen. next time talk facts before making an ass of yourself. i doubt you even own a 9800gtx.
Nice list Geralt. Like you said, there's a lot of indie games also. Diablo II's another game for that list (you may not have added it, as you did say that those were the ones you were looking forward to most.
are better for gaming than the PCs, but for the RTS and MMO genre pcs are still superior,for me i think that blizzard games are what really keeping the pc gaming alive if not for them pc gaming is dead.
Yes! Sing the praises of shoddy network code, imprecise controls, and lesser graphics.
What is he said is True Blizzard is the KING of the PC market by far no company has more market share then they do from WoW to Diablo to STarcraft even Warcraft the only thing they dont do is over saturated FPSs (thank god). Only PC games besides F2P MMOs on my PC are blizzard games I own them all but WoW(a bit overhyped for a mmo).
Blizzard is the king of ALL video games, I don't think there is any other game that has generated as much revenue as WoW.
Consoles are just the PC's retarded cousins.
And yet the retarted cousin still has better games :)
For every PC only title you could compile a list of XBOX or PS3 exclusives so its a pointless exercise there are great exclusives on every format. PC gaming isn't dead but the best? its being ripped apart by piracy which in turn has the developers using more and more draconian DRM which impacts on the honest user. On my consoles I can log in and in seconds see what friends are online, what games they are playing or what games they own. Its all so much easier on the console formats. There are still plenty of titles that make me want to keep a gaming PC but I spread my time over the PC, PS3 and 360 now when for more than a decade I was a PC only gamer and wouldn't entertain the thought of having a console.
You do know multiplats are fun too right? You also overlook backwards compatibility... We have generations of games that are still playable all the back to dos.
I recently cleared out a shelf of old gems I held on to but never played them, going retro is fun for 5 mins but then you realize how far its come and on the PC you feel you've wasted precious minutes of your life installing those old PC games when you just stick the disc in the drive on consoles. Backwards compatibility is a pretty low priority, if not redundant option for most gamers.
The console is for casual gamers the PC is for Elite Gamers and the PC exclusive list for 2010 way bigger and better than the console exclusive list. System exclusive means only on one system not 360 and PC or ps3 and PC so Mass Effect 2 for example isn't a exclusive SYSTEM ONLY EXCLUSIVE LIST 2010 Xbox360 Fable 3 Alan Wake Halo Reach Crackdown 2 Forza 3 PS3 Massive Action Game (MAG) The Last Guardian Gran Turismo 5 Final Fantasy XIV God of War 3 Agent Heavy Rain Mod Nation Racers Free Realms White Knight Chronicles Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack In Time Trinity: Souls of Zill O’ll Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Quantum Resistence 3 PC Starcraft 2 World of Warcraft Catalcym Dawn of War 2:Chaos Rising Star Wars The Old Republic Stalker Call Of Pripyat Lost Horizon Drakensang: The River of Time Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer Guild Wars 2 Napolean Total War Mytheon R.U.S.E. Settlers 7 Natural Selection 2 Forged by Chaos Supreme Commander 2 Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad Elemental: War of Magic Jagged Alience 3 Diablo 3 Disciples III: Renaissance Heroes of Newerth Anno 1404 Star Trek Online All Points Bulletin Jade Dynasty Grey Matter Vampyre Story 2: A Bat’s Tale Haunted Culpa Innata 2: Chaos Rising The Whispered World Black Mirror 2 Bracken Tor: The Time of Tooth and Claw Project Offset Arma II: Operation Arrowhead Delta Force Angel Falls Lone Wolf: Flight from the Dark Infinity: The Quest for Earth Tiger Woods PGA Tour Online this is just a list of AAA titles. I didn't add any simulators MODs or Indie titles. so who ever said the PC doesn't have any exclusives to talk about, it's because the PC has too many to talk about. every genre of video game is on this Pc list except simulators and that would have added another 12 PC exclusives to the PC list for 2010 looks like Pc gamers will be way too busy playing exclusives to worry about consoles. for me Natural Selection 2, STALKER Call of Pripyat, Arma II: Operation Arrowhead, Bracken Tor, Drakensang, Starcraft 2, Command and Conquer 4
@Revvin: Steam is a great network. @dirthurts: You are wrong. There are some classics that are worth playing even now, e.g. the X-Com series, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, AvP2, to name just a few. Their gameplay still shames many modern titles.
Krayzie Bone> Open zone is that way ----> fanboy, lol adding in the expansion packs nicely pads out that list. You assume I'm a console gamer when I've probably been a PC gamer since before you were just a stain on the bed sheets. I know about the simulations because thats my primary interest though I fear most of them particularly flight sims will be slipping into 2011. I never said they didn't have exclusives but that drawing up lists is pointless. zagibu> Yes Steam is, I've been a member for years. I'd buy a lot more games there though if it made financial sense. A lot of games stay at their full RRP for a long time when I can buy a physical copy and save up to £10 or more. The fact you don't need to keep changing disks is not enough of a bonus for me to spend the extra £10 unfortunately. I'm glad that Steam has evolved into more than just a content delivery system for Valve and that more publishers support it but still not enough gamers use it. With Microsoft pushing the Games For Windows Live platform with downloadable games they might start to catch Valve and with their financial clout pass Valve in a few more years which would be worrying for Valve as its a big chunk of their revenue. Either way I'd like to see one platform support all PC gamers and it has taken steps in the right direction over the last few years. The future is still bright enough for me to spend money on an upgrade later this year so its not all doom and gloom. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off back to iRacing to practice for the Daytona 500 :)
You forgot to take off Final Fantasy 14 and Quantum off your list from the ps3 section as both of those titles are Multi-Platform.
I enjoy both equally; they both have pros and cons.
So true. You're missing out if you don't have both.
Finally someone who gets it. PC + PS3 + 360 + Wii = all bases covered.
Also, the Gaming community for PC, is more than the community of PS3 and Xbox 360 combined.
bottom line is console gaming just makes things more accessible to the masses. A lot of people will go out and buy a console and b safe in the knoweledge that they can play any games that come out for that system without having to worry about upgrading etc. I'm certainly glad i've got a powerfull pc though despite also owning a 360 and ps3. Plenty of games that can only be played on pc and even multi plat games, a lot of the time they will be much better on pc e.g. supreme commander 2. It may work v well on consoles however m/k is always gonna be best for rts + if you have a decent rig for other reasons i.e. work then you can get games for less e.g. i can pick up AVP if i want and play it on pc (plus it looks better on pc) for £20 compared to the £35 i'd pay to play on consoles
whether u like it or not, console fanboys, the fact is pc is a far superior version than the consoles in gaming. PC's are TWO generations ahead than the consoles. The PC delivers the best graphics,(u dont need a high end pc,an old 8800gt can play games at max). It has the most exclusives, it has the better controls(the mouse is much more precise than a controller), it has mods for games and a better online community than consoles. And for all of u saying that playing on a 52 inch tv with 1080p is better, let me remind u that not all games play in 1080p, infact pc moniters are much better and provide high resolutions, more than a 1080p tv. Now having siad that, pc does have some cons and one of them is installing them and checking the system requirements each time. In consoles, u just put the cd in and start playing. So they both have pros and cons but in the end, the PC gaming gives a more satisfying and rewarding experience than a console.
Most console gamers don't realize you can connect your pc to your TV and use the 360 controller. That or just get a 1080p monitor, or higher.
it might have the best graphics,yes,but it dont have alot of the console type games and to see pc games in there fullest glory you have to have the latest pc specs it seems. id rather stay with console and get one with it,instead of waitn for the game to crash,but it seems the same with console nowdays or this case xbox 360 lol
PC is only good for multiplatform games with slightly better graphics, mmos, and playable rts games. Take my 360 and PS3 exclusives over that any day of the weak
PC's can be used for Halo, Gears, L4D, Mass Effect, Splinter Cell, and all those other "Microsoft exclusives"
Stop associating Valve with Microsoft, Jesus Christ... Valve games were on the Playstation brand before Xbox, FYI.
While consoles do receive more high profile games than the PC, I agree that the PC is better for gaming overall. The article is incorrect in some circumstances and forgets to mention few points. First, Macs aren't tougher to hack than PCs. There's less incentive to hack Macs due to their minority share in the market. In hacking competitions Mac's usually end up getting hacked into in under a few minutes while Microsoft's systems take 15 to 30 min. Also, Steam is good at preventing hackers; however, a lot of hackers still exist in many games. The main benefit of PC multi-player gaming is dedicated servers. Dedicated servers allow the admin to kick/ban players that are hacking and allows players to choose servers that have a low ping.
Consoles are actually delaying better and more advanced games graphics wise. They were made with 05/06 hardware while Pc's are in 2010 hardware now, yet developers have to make games for the lowest dominator(consoles). The true reason consoles are popular is because of $$$$$ and people not wanting to bother to get upgrades for their PC.
ps3 for exclusive pc for multiplats so the most of my gaming is on the pc now higher res better graphics plays games that i had for good 12 years plays ps2 games and wii games better than a wii plays them playing some wii upscaled to 1080p on my 30'' pc monitor makes mario look kind of next gen. what i think if you got nice 1080p tv and like to play the games without any hassle buy or stick with the ps3 if you dont mind messing around getting things to work get gaming pc i built mine for £352 quad core phenom 2gb (upgraded to 6gb) ram ati 5750 and it plays crysis at 1080p max settings 8xaa at 42fps but that involved overclocking my card to max and gets very hot.
For me i can't be happy without the other. There are many games i like that i can only play on the console and i only get games for the pc that are multiplat. I usually play RTS and FPS on my pc because it feels more natural with the keyboard and mouse, while 3rd person games and fighting games feel better on a console for me. I love my pc, handhelds and consoles because i cannot call myself a true gamer if i don't experience different kinds of games on different kinds of platforms.