Yamauchi Hits Out At Gran Turismo Competitors

CC: Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi has hit out at driving games released since Gran Turismo 4 in 2004, saying that the 'low level of quality really shines through'.

[Raf1k1]

He's a pretty picky guy isn't he?

edit:
I woulnd't mind seeing Forza's level of vehicle customisation in GT5 TBH.

[mjolliffe]

I think anyone can play Forza 3 for more than an hour at the time. Its brilliant.

I don't see that any of the racing simulators released recently (Forza 3, Need for Speed: Shift etc.) have low quality. After all, they sold brilliantly.

[PirateThom]

Quality and sales don't go hand in hand.

Shift definitely wasn't quality, the thing was pretty broken from what I played.

[Raf1k1]

True that. Sales aren't exactly representative of quality just popularity.

[II-Reaper-II]

When this guys speaks you listen and u agree and thats it.A true master of his domain.A perfectionist in every sense.

[pixelsword]

...it wasn't quoting from Eurogamer.

At any rate, can anyone get the direct link to work? It's probably a url thing, but when I paste the link, I can't get the original page to come up:

http://www.eurogamer.dk/art...

[sikbeta]

"Quality and sales don't go hand in hand"

Gran Turismo Franchise Is The Exception of The RULE

GT5: The Perfect Driving Simulator

Gamers FTW!!!

[SaberEdge]

But deh sony developerz neva talks bad abowt duh compitition!

Yeah right.

[green]

Blimey games,simbian studios, codemasters and slightly mad studios do to deserve such an insult?.

[van-essa]

as far as you work for Sony that is.

[Fox01]

Someone seems to like the smell of his own fart.

[DaTruth]

He's working on a game five years in the making; These guys are chucking out games every year!

When you pay $60 for GT5, it's gonna feel better than when you do it for those other games! There's so much more for $60 there.

[raztad]

"Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game's low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out!"

Thats the quote from Yamauchi when asked whether he may implement features from different games in future Gran Turismo games.

Take that as you want, but guy has high standards and is just saying what he thinks about already released games. Douche? perhaps.

[IrishAssa]

They sorta deserve it, the jap devs never talk sh*t bout western devs, western ones would rather be bumrap*d than be seen taking notes from competitors , Forza 3 was quality, even though it won't be as good as GT5 it would be the best if Gt didn't exist. Shift was not a simulator.

[leila01]

Seeing how long it's taking him to release GT5, it better be perfect.

[TheHater]

"Kazunori Yamauchi: The last is actually exactly what we do. We skeleton not to other games while we develop Gran Turismo - it is solely based on what we want to achieve with the game. In fact, I find it hard to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. Previews low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not keep them out!"

I am not an English major, but these part "We skeleton not to other games while we develop Gran Turismo", "play the other games in more than five minutes at a time" and "Previews low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not keep them out." I can tell was badly translate.

[shane025]

All he said was that other racers are crap compared to Gran Turismo 4 and that they've brought nothing to the table since.

It's not like he said GT5 "is the definitive racer", that would have been REALLY dramatic.

/s

[MiloGarret]

I speak danish.

The translation overall is kind of shifty, yeah, but the part in which he acts like a douche is pretty accurate.

He's asked wheather or not GT is developed "in a form of vacuum, where competitors are ignored". He responds that they develop games without glancing at other games, the end product is based solely on their own goals and vision (which is retarded, and obviously a lie, any dev saying this is clearly lying).

Then: "Actually I find it difficult to play the other games more than five minutes at a time. The low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can't stand them!"

Guess he got tired of the Turn 10 devs, good for him. Remember, I translated from danish to english, not japanese to english. Some danish dude did that, and danes can't be trusted. va?

Racing sims suck ass btw, I don't care about this little battle, bye.

[TheHater]

Thanks. When he said "Actually I find it difficult to play the other games more than five minutes at a time. The low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can't stand them!"
Couldn't he be referring to the games he play personally? those games doesn't necessary mean racing games, but games in general. For all we know, the game he might be referring to is Dynasty Warriors or something.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Really? Why is it that they are adding damage to their cars then. Surly thats one feature that the competitors have that they want in their game too.

Im sure GT 5 will be great but I wish hed just get it done already and let us decide.

Also I found it interesting considering they went and not only playued forza 3 at E3 but "TOOK NOTES" on it.

LOL.

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[TheBand1t]

Yamauchi, please. Don't do a Turn 10. :/

[MiloGarret]

No, he makes a point of directing himself towards GT's competitors, which I can only assume are racing games. Makes sense, no?

Eurogamer.dk makes a big a deal of this, it's a focal point in the article.

Far more interesting for those of you who are interested in all things GT, is that he says that there will be a major update to GT5 Prologue before GT5 proper is finished in the same article.

"Kazunori Yamauchi: Der vil komme yderligere en større opdatering til Gran Turismo 5 Prologue før det fulde spil er færdigudviklet."

[LiquifiedArt]

I don't think he said it like that, and if so, this article is doing a great injustice and using the spin-machine to generate nonsense.

[SilentNegotiator]

After all the pushing "Just Turned 10" did, you didn't expect a push back?

[Chubear]

Uhm, looks like loads of comments are being made just from reading the misleading and highly sensational headline instead of reading the actual article.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

..what do you expect the competition to say, if true? This is just PR everyone has their own direction on how to come about it, but it's just business.

Then again I'm not surprised that people are upset, it is a Sony developer; otherwise people wouldn't have cared. It's well known that western developers have that mentality, what makes it different used against them? Microsoft has Ninja Blade people think it's cool, Sony has Heavy Rain people say it isn't a game. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[bnaked]

He's not a douche, and do you know why? Because he knows, that GT5 is in another league. Damn i know Yamauchi, and if this man says, that other games are crap in comparsion to GT5, you just must believe him!. HE already knows, that his game is much better. Otherwise he would never say such things..

So for me as a GT fan: really good news! :-)

[soxfan2005]

Both Turn 10 & PD have bad-mouthed the competition. Now, it's time to put their money where their mouth is.

Turn 10 backed up it's arrogance with Forza 3, the highest rated driving sim since 2001. Millions of driving sim enthusiasts and hundreds of reviewers & journalists would disagree that Forza is "low quality".

Let's see what PD can do when GT finally comes out. If PD considers a 92 rating to be "low" quality, they better average at least a 98 for GT5 to back up their trash talk.

[bnaked]

GT5 will blow the competition away.. Without a doupt, Yamauch is a f*cking perfectionist, and he will release an extremely polished game, with unbelievable features. You will see...

[jmd749]

them there is fighting words... i like that, Yamauchi says it as it is. he has confidence in his product.

[morkendo]

Yamauchi Hits Out At Gran Turismo Competitors

??? like who? forza?? NFS? haaaaa yeah fking right. GT5 dont have competition

[Megaton]

Tisk tisk. Don't sink to Turd 10's level.

[green]

He just sank lower.Nothing Turn 10 said was this disrespectful.

[mastiffchild]

We don't know how low he's sunk, to be honest as that quote could be in ANY context and the translation of it doesn't really make much sense either.

If we see the full interview and it turns out he does mean EVERY single game released in the genre since the last GT then, yeah, it's a really bad statement but as he's been complimentary about Forza in the past I'm tempted not to think there's very much in this one.

For instancce, he could have been asked " What about the way the need for Speed games went so badly downhill" and then the rest of the question. If he was meaning every single racing game then he's out of line just as badly as Greenawalt but still not as low as T10 as a whole seeing as they're more than one person and there was a concerted policy of rubbish statements and poll rigging from them!

Still, just as I won't buy Forza3 until I see T10 and Greenawalt grow some humility I won't be keen on getting GT5 if it turns out Yam is being badly arrogant-whether T10 lit the first match is irrelevant as bad behaviour is bad behaviour and gamers don't need poor examples to act like tools these days. However, I very much doubt he'd say something quite so sweeping and/or disparaging and need to hear the interview, read a good transcript or find a full, good quality english translation as one quote with nothing to anchor it to is a typical, almost cliched, journalistic tool for making peple look however the publication wants.Surely, had they a full Yamauchi interview, also,m they'd have made certain we saw a little more than one semi sensical quote, wouldn't they?

Also, it would be very out of character from what I've ever seen or read about the guy too.

[green]

"Eurogamer: when you look back at the games that have appeared since the GT4 – with Forza Motorsport as the highest title – see you so things you want to deploy in the GT series? Features which have brought the genre a step forward? Or developer in Gran Turismo in a form of vacuum, where in ignores its competitors?

Kazunori Yamauchi: the last is actually exactly what we do. We skeleton not to other games while we develop Gran Turismo– it is based solely on what we want to achieve with the game. Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game's low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out! " http://www.microsofttransla... http://www.eurogamer.dk/art...

the guy was asked a simple question.After GT4 is there any feature in other competitors racing games that he likes and would want to impliment and he flatout calls all of the s*it.

IMO there is nothing wrong with taking jabs at the opposition but flatout degrading rival products to that level of calling the games unplayable ( a game you can't play for more than 5 mins is basically unplayable) then that is plane stupid.

[mjolliffe]

The links there, and if its not perfect translation, you can pretty much tell what they ask him:

'With games released after Gran Turismo 4, are there any features you want to implement/deploy in the Gran Turismo series'

Its a pretty bad statement, no matter which way you look really. But, he is a great developer, and as long as he can maintain the current standard of previous GT games, I'll be happy.

[Hakimy]

payback time,Yamauchi-san? ;)

[Marceles]

I remember Kojima saying something and then hearing later what his translation was and saying he was mistranslated. I doubt he said it in a Turn 10-like tone.

[morganfell]

Turn 10 had it coming and frankly I am glad he didn't stand there and take it. Turn 10 stunk the place up thinking boastful insulting claims could double for talent. Contrary to the belief of some you don't sink to their level by calling them out.

Where were all these people that have an issue with his remarks when Turn 10 were running their mouths? Oh, I see, it was a 360 game. Don't even bother to deny it. I don't. The shoe is on the other foot now and he has it across the neck of Turn 10. Get ready because his entire team is on his back to help apply the pressure.

Besides, it's like Dennis Miller said way before 2001,

"Some say that if we do that it's a heinous thing and we sink to their level and they win. Well they may win but it's nice to know their guys won't be showing up at the trophy ceremony."

[Consoldtobots]

confuscious say "he who open ass first can't complain about smell"

[SaberEdge]

I agree, Green. What Yamauchi said was much worse than what Turn 10 said, but the Sony fanboys will never admit that.

[SaberEdge]

"Some say that if we do that it's a heinous thing and we sink to their level and they win. Well they may win but it's nice to know their guys won't be showing up at the trophy ceremony."

Your quote doesn't even apply here. This isn't a war where people die.

It's not like if Polyphony Digital call all the other racing games crap that all of their sales will disappear and all the people enjoying those games will suddenly stop playing and the developers of those games will die in a brilliant flash of light and be gone forever. Your quote was silly.

I don't care about what Yamauchi said, I'm just pointing out that it is worse than what Turn 10 said and that Sony developers do talk sh!t about the competition.

[morganfell]

It doesn't apply because he just stomped on some people you like. People that had it coming. I hope he isn't through. In fact, I hope he makes more such comments but to the nth power. It obviously drives people like you mad.

And the quote applies. It isn't just applicable to war but to any situation where one must make a choice of using the same tactics as the opposition. if you can't see that then your view is more narrow than even I thought. Here, have a tissue.

[bnaked]

Ok, i can understand you, but Yamauchi is a perfecionist!!! And Forza 3 is NOT a quality game! I really can understand him, he just know, how great his game is, and which quality it has. The other racing games have no quality (~in comparsion to GT5~), thats just right! And he is the only one, who is allowed to say such things, because he knows, that his game is above the compition..

[edwineverready]

He was probably quoted wrongly. They are a very classy developer.

[PhilipLarkin]

Aww. From the title, I wanted a link to a fight...

[keysy420]

turn 10 you can't say nothing

[Consoldtobots]

lol the xbot in the gamer zone acting butthurt wouldn't know hipocrisy if it red ringed on him.

[Wrathman]

its ok when a sony dev bad mouths the competition is it?

are'nt you a hypocritical bunch.

meh.there is better on the pc anyway(quote from the droid handbook of poor excuses)

[Consoldtobots]

I don't think you kids get it, when the competition (turn 10 lol) runs their mouth nonstop about Polyphony (who never uttered one word in their direction and quite frankly are known as some of the most professional developers around) it's a bit delusional to then complain when that same developer you already talked bad about in the first place does it back to you. Then again that's pretty much the story of this whole generation isn't it? 360 fanboys went on such a tear trashing and badmouthing the PS3 ever since it launched that it's downright comical to see some of those same fanboys now scream bloody murder when things don't go their way.

just saying.

[CWMR]

-More lies coming from your keyboard. You act like the poor innocent PS3 was attacked by 360 fans while PS3 fans sat there like little innocent angels. Well it's a big lie. Go read any of the early threads on this site from around the time the 360 and PS3 came out and you will see the 360 got just as much hate from the PS3 fans as the other way around.

Also, I am not complaining about what Yamauchi said. I couldn't care less. What we 360 fans are saying is that you PS3 fans are a bunch of hypocrites. You whine and cry when somebody says their 360 game is the best, but when a PS3 developer says the competition is crap you guys act like it is perfectly normal and sensible that he should say that. Or you make excuses and say that it is ok this time because another developer said their game was better before. When in reality we know you guys would all be cheering this guy on even if nobody had said anything previously.-

[stonecold1]

is the most powerful advanced console on the market and the bots dont like it 360 tapped ages ago and 360 has been defeated in the graphics department and gt5 will put the nail in the coffin 360 nice knowing you this gen belongs to sony and ninetdo bye bye 360 your days are outnumbered on god opf war will put 360 in the coffin alot sooner than you think gt5 would never been done on the 360 thats a fact end of statment

[EvilBlackCat]

"Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game's low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out!"

Well you heard the kid

i don't blame him he is just mad that he now have to release the game this fall accompanied by GoW3 and others 2008-2009 fake release promised games to fight the PS3 enemy before he REACH out success.

[Dylantalon1]

a lot of people dont understand that forza 3, need for speed shift and some other racing games are for casual racing enthusiasts. im a petrol head and i cant play anything else other than gt games because they have the real driving physics and the best of any racing games. having the ability to put custom paint schemes and stickers on cars doesnt entice a lot of hardcore gear heads but is there for the wannabes. there are a lot of components that differs in other racing games like the suspensions and how they act around corners or react under heavy braking or driving over candy stripes which only gt games are able to replicate realistically. the best way to see how realistic a lot of car games are is to drive around a realistic track in the game with a regular car that's stock and compare the ET to that of the ET of the same car driving around the same track in real life and gt games are the only ones that were the closest. what kaz actually said is not an insult but is the truth about other car games

[hops2cents]

but, in my experience on forza 2 online, there have been plenty of diehards, that take tuning to extreme measures to squeak that last tiny bit of performance out of their cars and take much pride in it.

I just hated the way gt treated my favorite car, the first generation mr2's. just didn't feel right imo

[MegadethAndy]

With the first gen Mr2, they got the weight of the NA and supercharged models around the wrong way. But i think the handling was accurate enough for its time (i've owned one myself)

As for the comment. At least its not a lie (maybe a bad translation)

[Uncle Rico]

I call bullcrap on this story. He wouldn't stoop to such low levels of commentary about his competitors. btw, why is CC regurgitating a Eurogamer article? Hits I assume?

[XxRoosterxX]

This title is awful. It barely makes any sense.

[Dylantalon1]

if a person wants to play a tactical shooter then they wouldnt want to play mw2 to get their fix. if i want to play the best racing simulator then i'll be playing gran turismo. i dont understand people getting upset over logic because this guy is a hardcore petrol head.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Quick question, have you even played Forza 2/3?

[Gen0ne]

... I say let this guy get his licks in. He's been quiet long enough. I'm thinking he must actually see a release date in the near future. Time to build up some hype.

[hops2cents]

That doesn't necessarily mean the forza series. there have been plenty of turds within the time frame since gt4. We can't jump to conclusions based on this broad comment. I'm sure he recognizes forza as a quality product imo, probably not quality opponents though if u know what i mean.

[Noah]

Well said Yamauchi, well said.

[SaberEdge]

So when Turn 10 says something like Forza 3 will be the definitive racing sim (not calling the competitors crap, mind you) it's horrible and they should die in a fiery pit, but when Polyphony Digital literally calls all their competition crap they deserve a pat on the back?

Typical double standards coming from the PS3 camp.

[RedDragan]

The thing is Saber there was nothing Definitive about Forza 3 other than the glitches!

[Whoooop]

You tell them big guy.... Kids should learn to respect their fathers.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009...

How quickly we forget. What Turn 10 said was at best just as bad, maybe worse because Yamauchi-san probably can't play those games more than 5 minutes. Greenwalt made Forza superiority seem like a natural fact and insinuated smacking Yamauchi upside the head with these comments, even saying the "Emperor's naked right now."

Here's another:

“Perhaps the most surprising to me was when a couple developers from Gran Turismo makers Polyphony Digital came by to personally get hands-on with Forza 3, all the while taking careful notes, examining our UI system, shooting photos, and directly asking us some pretty interesting questions. The reason I say I was personally surprised was because PD aren’t generally known as a studio to acknowledge that there are racing games that exist beyond their own. Which could explain why the GT franchise has been so stagnant in the racing genre since GT3.”

If you are 360 owner/Forza fan or whatever...whining about this comment, please STFU.

[Foxgod]

Hmmmm, hes trashing the competition, and no Sony fan is around to badmouth the guy.

I suppose its only bad when Turn10 self proclaims to be the best, but its alright when a Sony guy says the competition is trash.

Hypocrisy.

[Gen0ne]

Turn 10 opened it's big mouth first. You get what you give. Fair is fair.

[Whoooop]

"I suppose its only bad when Turn10 self proclaims to be the best"

Well you don't do that when you aren't... ;)

[Foxgod]

Turn10 never trashed the competition, they self proclaimed, thats completely different from what this guy here does.
And the ps3fans took all they can to bash turn10, a honest person would also bash this GT guy here, and not just turn10.

I never bashed turn10, and i wont bash these GT guy either, i stand above the N4g Averages.

@Above, maybe not, but Turn10 aint low quality either, so i suppose you dont go talking about that, either.

[GarandShooter]

Greenwalt:

“So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team. That said, I feel that he’s passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasn’t meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they’ve stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but I’d say the differentiator is they’re old school. The emperor’s naked, and I don’t want to, you know, I don’t want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now.”

No Fox, no trashing there. Hypocrisy.

[DaTruth]

Dude, you spend half your life bashing Sony on N4G! You're above the N4G averages?

[captain01]

You spend half of your life on N4G bashing Microsoft and the other half defending Sony. You're above the N4G scrotum?

[snp]

Perplexed how you got 8 disagrees and counting GarandShooter. Are people disagreeing with the quote? Or are they disagreeing that it's real? Or are they just disagreeing that you posted it and showed them up?

Baffling the way people use the 'disagree' button... (assuming it is a real quote).

[RememberThe357]

But it doesn't, I guess you could call it a double standard.

Plus, there is always the issue of translation. This was first translated to Danish from Japanese then to English. We'll see if he responds to all the pissed off 360 fanboys.

[W831SOLIDSNAKE]

You speak the truth master Yamauchi!

Bow down to the master of racing simulators BOTS!

[Ahmay]

kozoni yuki noi na hakuto no kenshi ryo tsuono ish na go ho.......

to translate that....

"GT5 totally sh!tz all over Forza3."
j/k

[mrmikew2018]

Come on bro, how naive are you? Don't believe everything you read, especially on N4G. You should know better than that.

[green]

I don't believe everything i read that is why i checked the original source not conected console.And unless Yamauchi danish translator was playing a fast one on him, then that is exactly what he said. So are you saying that eurogamer might have fabricated the interview?

[PirateThom]

People are naive for beliving a quote from a Japanese speaker on a Danish website with an English web translation.

[GarandShooter]

Thom, are you implying that a translation from Japanese to Danish, then a retranslation (robotic, nonetheless) from Danish to English could possibly have lost something in the translation(s)?

You may have stumbled onto something there...

[Xi]

since the release of forza motorsport, there has yet to be a GT game to score higher....

Maybe he's been playing his own games, when he thinks he's playing the competitions games.

[RememberThe357]

Yeah... I'm sure he'd make that mistake...

/sarcasm

[Thoreau]

man all you do is defend the 360 and you don't own a ps3. typical..

check me if you want
xbl-heavens boxer
psn-southpaw79

edit--typical broke butt disagrees

hell yeah i own both systems...the only people whom disageed with me are the little 360 "only" owners

[Xi]

problem is that This site is so adamant about hating on the 360 that I can do anything but become a fanboy, just because I do like my 360 more then my ps3, and I do defend my purchase.

It's ironic, because you don't own a 360 yet spout about how you do.

My psn id is... give me a sec, let me go find a random name from anywhere I want on the internet. I'm not going to give out my PSN here, and posting one doesn't prove I have a ps3, just like you posting a gamertag doesn't prove you have a 360.

[RedDragan]

Xi, having not ventured into 360 section all I see is 360 fanboys attacking PS3, PC and Wii so go screw yourself!

[FasterThanFTL]

^^

[Noob]

Turn 10 was asking for it.

[awesomeperson]

Turn 10 just got told.

[XXXCouture]

why the fu*k do people care about what the devs are saying? just play the damn games you idiots

[Thoreau]

i like it. nothing wrong with getting a little dirt and grease under the fingernails. in fact, that is the way the world turns...most sheeple try to be nice ad follow the rules, then one grimy guy gets dirty and starts to run the world. yamauchi is cool in my book. i play basketball all of the time and there is nothing wrong with a little jersey/shirt tug, a little smack at someone's hand when they go for the steal, a tiny step on someone's pivot foot....alls fair in love and war.

[W831SOLIDSNAKE]

Bots wouldn't be insulted if what he Said wasn't true! No other racing game comes close to GT series and everyone knows that. Only the blind would deny what's there.

[SaberEdge]

Bullsh#t! Forza has proven itself this generation and currently has the highest scores of any racing game, Gran Turismo hasn't.

Besides, that's not the point. The point is that you guys cried to the heavens when Turn 10 said they thought their game would be the definitive racing sim, but now when Yamauchi makes far more insulting remarks all you PS3 fans just heap praise on him.

You guys are the biggest hypocrites in gaming.

[morganfell]

Scores =/= quality. They are a gauge of sorts but they are not an equal.

Sales =/= quality.

And if you didn't post in the Forza threads and criticize Turn 10 for the numerous times they ran their mouths and attacked people BEFORE Forza released then you are the one being the hypocrite.

You didn't did you. No, I didn't think so. As I said, such behavior is fine by you when it is a 360 developer.

Here is the final line. There is a chasm that exists between Forza and GT5 and everyone knows. Some know it and look forward with anticipation whereas the rest simply dread it. The rift that exists does so because GT5 will eclipse Forza and every racing title for several years.

[morganfell]

You might want to go back and read the posts in this forum and see just who it is that is demonstrating more than a good deal of consternation. Then you might also want to take another look at the N4G rules. See you in the open zone.

[Odreus]

what a boring and bad looking game, this guy should be quiet and finish the Playstation 2 fest that is Gran Turismo 5. (Sorry, my opinion)

[MajesticBeast]

Wait you played a 200mb demo and it looks bad... You call it opinion most call it fanboyism.

[hops2cents]

for Odreus' bubbles, what brave bubbles they were

i will neither disagree nor debubble you sir, but why here, why now?

[Subzero200x]

What about the lower level of quality of this so called racing game?

"what a boring and bad looking game, this guy should be quiet and finish the Playstation 2 fest that is Gran Turismo 5. (Sorry, my opinion)"

lol you dont know how right u are if i wanted to play a boring sim where you slide off the road every turn this game would be perfect....this thing has nothing on the need for speed by that i mean the real need for speed.

[MajesticBeast]

You just compared a arcade racer against a simulator god do you fail so badly whats next comparing apples to oranges.

[right and wrong]

These guys are acting like Biggie and Tupac! Just keep bringing us good games and stop the fighting lol. E3 is going to be filled with gaming gangsters.

[level 360]

Forza 3 though is actually very good, but it's just begging for more varying race/street/tracks especially off-road and snow.

[KingItachi]

Whether it's mistranslated or not I have no problem with what he said.

[foreverflame]

I cant take this guy seriously his company and his series are washed up gran tursimo is old news,forza 3 is the top king of racing sims anyone who has hit puberty knows that

[iPad]

How is Forza 3 the king of racers if Gran Turismo 3 has more content that Forza 3?

Explain.

[hatchimatchi]

i love it when foreverflame posts

"anyone who has hit puberty..."

LOL

[NinjaAssassin]

iPad, why are you going all the way back to gt3? that game is old as hell. gt4 was the last full gran turismo game released and it only has an 89 on metacritic, why don't you compare forza 3 to that? because you know forza 3 destroys gt4. and gt5 prologue is even worse, it only has an 80 on metacritic.

you fandroids won't give forza the respect it deserves but it is clearly the highest rated racing sim on consoles at the moment.

[FlameBaitGod]

If forza is so great y isn't it being picked up by driving fans ? even with all the ads it cant sell

[WLPowell]

... of Turn 10's claims are now totally butt-hurt, demanding the sony camp to get mad at polyphony. Yeah, what he said was harsh, but hell maybe if the other devs put a little more time into their products to compete with the quality we expect from GT and less talking smack. we'd vilify them about what they said.

[CWMR]

-I don't think any 360 fan is upset with what he said. It seems most are just annoyed at how hypocritical you PS3 fanboys are. Yamauchi said something worse than Turn 10 and most PS3 fans are acting like it is great.-

[snp]

-I don't think any 360 fan is upset with what he said. It seems most are just annoyed at how hypocritical you PS3 fanboys are. Yamauchi said something worse than Turn 10 and most PS3 fans are acting like it is great.-
----

Well, i'm not 'acting like it's great'. Don't like that sort of tone from anyone - display it in the product and shut up is my preference (for all developers, including this one).

That said, i'll always have more sympathy for moments of bad judgement from those who have copped it, repeatedly (such as these guys have from Turn 10) than i will for those starting the fights, and setting the ugly/unprofessional tone.

And i have to disagree with you about 'what he said being worse than Turn 10'. That comment posted by GarandShooter of Turn 10's (if it's real) is far far more targeted, more deliberate, more personal, and thus more aggressive than this unpleasant, but very vague, casually delivered, single sentence bit from Yamauchi. (Although i guess you could argue possibly having more weight/name in the industry his comments maybe singe a bit more than a lesser known guy, so he probably should be careful in that that respect).

[RedDragan]

CWMR...

You are such a fanboy, worse than that, you are an aggressive fanboy!

If anyone says anything against your precious 360 you tell them to shut up. So why not take a leaf out of your own book and leave N4G for good because you are not a very well liked user on these forums.

Most people of all the console owners, think you are a total jerk to be honest! You are bad for gaming and will never praise PS3 because you have a disturbing allegiance to the Microsoft machine.

Get a life!

[zhuk is god]

well, well and this man allegedly it's a gentleman, yeah sureee and the ps3 it's not a cheap blue ray's player and just that

[devsgreat]

"Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game's low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out" lol

[TwistedMetal]

What he says is true. Nothin F*** with GT series. If you aint rollin GT then you aint a racer fan end of story. You see the graphics and quality of MLB the show, KZ2, uncharted2, so on and so forth. Well this dude a master of raceing and raceing games whose seen more cars, tested more cars, and made more car games then all of the people in turn10 combined. He is bringing perfection quality to GT5 and raceing sims to unimaginable lvls. This dude is a master samurai from the land of the rising sun. He has no equal, ill be playin the sequal. GT5 B****es yall cant hate on this, people!!!!

[CWMR]

-Kindly shut up, you delusional arrogant fanboy. Forza 3 is the one that has the scores and the sales in this generation to back itself up. Gran Turismo hasn't even shown up yet and you can't just ride on the success of games that came out years ago when the standards were different and there was less competition. Lots of racing fans love Forza 3 and I just have to laugh at how arrogant and stupid your comment was.-

[NateDPG]

Err as far I remember they released GT5P and it also outsold Forza 3.

[Xi]

I remember that same demo being 20 dollars and being bundled with the ps3....

[SDF Repellent]

"We can release GT5 anytime we want to"

So do it then and stop delaying the darn thing.

[gamingisnotacrime]

this quote is the harshest quote i have read from Yamauchi when asked about the competition.
I wonder if he is just stating facts in his response, because since its birth the GT series has had a very high set of standards, the car noise, visual details of tracks, handling etc etc. When one takes a look at the competition one can realize that besides Forza, the rest are fun to play not even close to gt quality and that is a fact (in consoles).
Now is Forza 2 and 3 included in the "competition" he mentions? maybe, that is his opinion because i have read many post of Forza fans that think Forza is on par or better than GT in handling, track details etc etc. But by asking for the competition in the racing genre, he is about 99.99999% right, and the 0.00001% i left out is because i have not played Forza 3, so i dont know how it matches to the GT legacy.

BTW people, dont compare GT with other games using the Dualshock, Use the logitech Drivinhg Force, (Racing Wheel) is the ONLY real way to appreciate the attention to detail that goes into this GT games, and im very impressed by the way GT4 plays with that wheel, is amazing

[NateDPG]

I don't think he meant it like that and it was probably taken out of context.

[SDF Repellent]

So a Sony employer talks cr@p about the competiotion and it is out of Context...but when a Microsoft ally even remotely said anything with a hair of downplaying the PS3, Microsoft is Evil. LOL

[NateDPG]

Buddy the dude is since over a decade in the business, but it's first time such a statement, the dudes was always class. So do the math ;)

[Mamajuana]

GT5 has been delayed through and through, but this dude is a perfectionist. I'm sure when it finally releases the game will be uncanny.

[Thoreau]

11.3 - acttaully I do own a ps3 and we had this arguement thearour.
problem is that This site is so adamant about hating on the 360 that I can do anything but become a fanboy, just because I do like my 360 more then my ps3, and I do defend my purchase.

It's ironic, because you don't own a 360 yet spout about how you do.

My psn id is... give me a sec, let me go find a random name from anywhere I want on the internet. I'm not going to give out my PSN here, and posting one doesn't prove I have a ps3, just like you posting a gamertag doesn't prove you have a 360.

dude,

your a DAMN liar and a internet punk

xbl-heavens boxer
psn-southpaw79

i will be on mass effect 2 tonight. you're lucky i don't know your frail azz

disagree all you want. i don't have a reason to lie and the reason i can give out my psn and xbl name is because i own them. i have been throught this before with your sniveling moron self...

no need for me to do a random name.
alpha-male22, air1 both have my accounts and are on my buddy lists. hellvacancy was my psn buddy list, alpha-male was just added to my psn list. air1 is on my psn/xbl buddy list. what i can go on but a internet chump like you don't want me to crush you in tekken6, killzone2, codmw2, halo:reach etc...yeah i type the type and back it up...

xbl-heavens boxer
psn-southpaw79

cats like me get in to azzez like you(XI)

XI YOU ARE A SUPER SCRUB.....

[NinjaAssassin]

you sound like a scrub yourself. talking like you're all that. whether you have a 360 or not you are still just a typical ps3 fanboy like the rest of them.

[The Maxx]

I can agree with Kazunori Yamauchi and see where he is coming from.

I am not sure why everyone thinks he is singling out TURN 10 and Forza3. There are plenty of race games out that are just crap. He doesn't say which race games nor does he say which developers. He is just talking in a broad manner.

Why is it that everyone thinks he is talking about Forza? Give me proof in his comments that he is referring to Forza. Even the person conducting the interview is pretty broad with his questions.

Just come out and as the question straight up...."have you played enough of Forza 3 to base an opinion on the game" and "if so what is your opinion on the game" and "would you consider implementing some for Forza 3's features into GT5?"

Everyone is just speculating. This is how FUD and ignorant views are spread. I can't believe this is even considered an article and how the hell did this get approved.

[RockmanII7]

double standards here are incredible.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Lol. He did NOT say that. I'm callin' BS on this story.

[Ronster316]

GT 4 scored 89%

GT psp....... well , im not even going to bother checking the score cos i know already its average at best.

Forza 92%

PGR 3 89%

Forza 2 90%

Forza 3 92%

So since GT 4 theres been 4 games (no doubt more) that have either equalled or beat the last "Full game" GT score.

I think its time he faced up to the reality that GT is simply not as good as it once was, it's been in decline score wise since GT 3 A-Spec

[earbus]

lets hope they capture a sense of speed kept waiting for pedestrians to overtake me in prologue ,online was disgusting.Plus the jaggerd time trial mess , my kids were toddlers when this game was announced now there happily married telling their kids about the mythical legend GT5.

[jalen247]

Hey...the guy is entitled to his opinion.

If you were making Uncharted 2 or Mass Effect 2 and the competition was making Dark Void you would say the same thing...LOL

[SDF Repellent]

But Dark Void can't compared to a Racing Franchise that has 3 consecutive AAA scores...ie Forza.

So I don't get your point there.

[horndog]

everything else on Forza beats this sorry ass title that will never get release.

[snaz27]

more than 16 cars on track? weather? day and night cycles? real time damage? nascar? rally? over 1000 cars to collect? cool man i never knew that.. guess id better run out and buy a 360 to play this definitive racer!

[NinjaAssassin]

no, forza 3 has its own great features like deep customization and solid 60 fps gameplay.

the plain truth is gran turismo hasn't proven itself this gen. gran turismo 3 was the last big success and every game since then has been going down hill. gt4 has an 89 on metacritic. gt5p only has an 80. gran turismo on psp only has a 74. gran turismo 5 might bring it back or it might not, but i am sick of you guys that don't even play forza hating on it when it is the series that has proven itself these days. you guys are just trying to live off past glories with gran turismo.

[Hotel_Moscow]

gran turismo 5p is like a demo compared to gran turismo 5

and why are you bringing up scores like that tells anything about how good a game when almost all reviews are biased based on state of mind and personality

[Ven1000]

owned

[devilhunterx]

Yamauchi b!tch slapped all the XB2 fanboys.

/fixed

[PS360PCROCKS]

That's pretty immauture. Sure Turn 10 said "definitive races this gen" but GT5 isn't released. They NEVER dissed GT series, in fact they praised it. They just said it hasn't evolved in quite some time. He may not be talking about Forza, but sure sounds like he is. It's one thing to be confident, its another to insult other peoples work.

[GarandShooter]

“So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team. That said, I feel that he’s passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasn’t meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they’ve stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but I’d say the differentiator is they’re old school. The emperor’s naked, and I don’t want to, you know, I don’t want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now.” - Dan Greenwalt

Yeah right, nothing but praise.

[PS360PCROCKS]

"Perhaps he hasn’t meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they’ve stopped evolving the genre."

Thanks for proving my point, I didn't feel like finding the quote.

Besides the douchey end of that comment from Turn 10 I'm still right. He wasn't being disrespectful, he didn't say "Oh F other racing games, they're low quality" You kidding me?

[snp]

edit: second thought - meh.

[beardpapa]

I question the validity of the interview. You'd think that an interview with someone that big should probably involve other interviewers from other publications.

And I question the translation of Japanese to anything. I once needed help translating a Japanese sentence so one guy I knew did it for me and told me it was "Love from a 12 year old." I thought wait a minute that's kinda sick. I asked another person who was more proficient in the language and he gave me "a 20 year old love" I read the kanji and interpreted them in Chinese and it made more sense for the sentence to be interpreted as 20 years of long love than love from a 12 year old.

So yea, point being... there's almost always some kinda misinterpretation when translating from Japanese to anything.

[El Nino]

Will every stop havin a go, you think this makes them even with turn 10 or something, this isnt even close to the sh*t turn 10 spewed out

n is the guy actually wrong, have i played a better racing game since gran turismo 4??? NO!

considering the "next gen" technology available.. games like shift and forza havent kept me entertained like gt4 did, hell i played motorstorm more than i played shift and forza combined! you know why...cos its fun!

After all this cr@p turn 10 said, this isnt nothing, absolutly nothing, n i'd love nothing more than that studio to to fail, or maybe it already has, i'm pretty sure the forza 3 hyped up in the months before its release is not the same forza 3 as i have in a box next to my 360!

[NinjaAssassin]

what crap did turn 10 say? post it, we'll compare. you are talking crap with nothing to back it up. you are obviously a big fanboy for gran turismo, but you know what? it's just your opinion about gt4 being better. i think forza 3 blows away gt4 seven ways to sunday, completely and utterly. turn 10 hyped up their game and all you fanboys threw a fit, but now you just make excuses for the sh*t slinging polyphony digital is doing.

[GarandShooter]

@ Ninja

I've posted Greenwalt's comments twice in this thread. Go find them.

[tigertron]

I actually think NFS Shift is a great game and I had a ton of fun playing it and tuning up my cars.

The NFS franchise definatly needed a reboot, and Shift was the game to do it.

[chidori666]

Yamauchi: OWNED IN FANBOYS OF FLOPZA 3!

[chidori666]

this guy speak the truth.. gt is defintive racing of all times.

[vyralx]

Go Go Yamauchi!!

[Arnon]

Lol...

Turn 10 steps up and self-proclaims how great their game is, and everyone says that they're a pile of trash for saying such things.

Polyphony Digital steps up and makes fun of and puts down 5 separate companies, and they were just and righteous for doing so.

/facepalm

[TheMailman]

Who speech the true don´t deserve punishment..

[xtreampro_REVENGE]

At least Yamauchi doesn't pick out one particular game like how Turn 10 deliberately picked out GT5, and it's about time Yamauchi opens his mouth to shut all the haters.

and there's a difference between mocking the competition and lying about your game just to get attention and Turn 10 did exactly that.

Yamauchi's mocking the competition but he speaks the truth I mean how on earth can you make a racing simulator in 2 years? that's just absurd Turn 10, no wonder Forza 3 sucked in everything.

[baker_boi]

Why did he say that...

You shouldah let the game speak for it self homie.

Now you playin Microsoft's game.

I think isht is bout to get reeeeeaaaaal difficult for big homie from here on out.

Xbots finna come in here and be like "Pot calling the kettle black!"

Although...It did blow Forza 3 out da water lol They jumped da gun on this one baby! You don't show yo head early and hope the competition has nothin!

[BanSama]

I love GT but what I love about Forza as compared to GT is the cars get DAMAGED when you hit something as opposed to GT which is all just aesthetics rather than "A real driving Simulator"

[PirateThom]

What are you talking about?

This was already discussed numerous times, cars will suffer damage from impacts and it's not just visual but a gradual degrade in performance too.

[GarandShooter]

Take any car in Forza 3 and drive it into a barricade or wall at 100 mph. A car that should be undriveable after such an event can still be driven. Aesthetics, you say?

[stonecold1]

it all so i have to agree here yamauchi right need for speed and forza arcade racer where. gt5 is the defentive of this gen forza were good arcade games which arent anywhere near gt5 level and forza looks pretty much last gen once gt5 hits retail

[maspi]

"Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game's low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out!"

forza 3 anyone?

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Watching the latest videos from GT5 in game. Maybe GT6 will beat that.

Forza? Only a fanboy will defend that.

[xg-ei8ht]

Seriously you guys don't and won't ever get the point.

Play GRID - Smash into walls-or anything and is totalled intoa million bits.

Play DIRT1&2 Car gets damaged(not life like)Try stopping on dirt/compared to tarmack, something wrong with it.

The blur thing with Shift, wtf. They should have taken it out. Spoils it.

Forza3 - Arcadey feel to it, damage is okish, and rewind feature is a must for an arcade game.

Point is. All are decent games in places and all have physics.

But they are made up physics and none of them are correct.

GT5 Driving physics are correct, and the damage physics are starting to catch up, add that with the best looking cars in any game, 1000 cars, HD. Weather system,damage,blowouts,headtra cking,tons upon tons of tracks,different racing genres.

Nothing will touch it.

And the translation isn't what it seems.

What he is saying is, he likes his own game, likes the way it handles, and playing something else does not feel right and he does not want that impacting the game he is making.

Either way.

GT5 will be the racing game everyone will want. and it will be the racing game that sells.

Just enjoy it. It's coming.

[ironmonkey]

KIDS RELAX, THE MEDIA IS BIASED. YOU SAY SOMETHING AND THEN THE WRITERS MAKE IT SOUND WORSE. THERES NO SUCH THING AS WELL HE SAID IT ALOT WORSE. COMMON GROW UP THEY ASKED FOR HIS OPINION AND HE GAVE IT ISNT THAT WHAT EVERYONE HERE ON N4G DOES? CRITICIZE AND OPINIONATE?

[PimpHandHappy]

The only reason Turn 10 and MS bashed on these guys was because they want Forza to be considered the 360 version of GT. They want everyone who talks about racing games or driving simulators if you will to put Forza in the same breath as GT... thats the truth... Its a PR move... hearts and minds with a bigger focus on MINDS

personally i think with the additions of Nascar, Cart and Rally in the next GT game it will be the definitive racer this gen and for many many years to come... GT5 will sell over 7 million easy in its life time!

[BLADE_X8]

Microsoft is using weak minded people to spread their nonsense! Ms and the creators of Forza know that they could never compete with GT. (You do know how many Grand Turismo games are out, don't you?) The forza crew hid behind MS dollars and the success of Halo (JUST LIKE EVERY XBOX GAME), knowing that most Xbox fans only have a system for Halo. (There is nothing wrong with that...I got a Xbox for Halo.)

The ONLY racing game people can speak about is Grand Truismo, because the developers don't short change on it's product. Look at MS, Nintendo, and Sony: check out there best games....from beginning of console this gen, to the current. Honestly say to yourself, "Which console is constantly giving out innovation, better graphics & gameplay, multiple genre, and REAL HD video and sound? Now MS could compete with hand helds, and Blu Ray, but you wanna know why they won't? BECAUSE DUMB ASS PEOPLE LOVE HALO AND WILL AGREE TO PAY FOR A ADMITTEDLY FAULTY UNIT TO GET IT! Why spend more for a quality machine and next gen game experience (Which Microsoft brags about delivering), when they can impress casual and weak minded "sheep" by using old technology, and make a killing? (MS is cost/benefit, while their competitors are cost/benefit/customer/quality. ) Before calling me a fanboy, look up the sales of Forza...and compare that COMPLETE game to Grand Turiso: Prolouge. (Which sold more??...and GTP was just a sample.)

[hatchimatchi]

Some people don't realize the impact that gran turismo games have.

It's THE definitive racing sim. It's just the way it is. I'm not saying forza is a bad series or low quality games, but gran turismo is as good as it gets when it comes to racing sims.

[BLADE_X8]

However, many people are star struck out here. People will keep buying Halo, Gears, and GTA's...and make excuese for not expecting more. (Companies thrive off the casual gamer and rich & uninformed parents of spoiled kids.)

I played both forza's and knew pretty much what to expect. GT games have always gotten bigger and better, but MS pushed out some vids and got into people's heads with all the Gamestop and Best Buy ads. I respect the business side of their thinking, but you can't use CGI, money, and celebrities on the final product? ("OK guys...let's bring some of the Beatles members on stage, and use a grand E3 2009 intro. that way, people will think the 360 version is the only one....that will work?" WRONG!!! That game sold like crap!) I don't care what people buy, just don't come at me with BS reasons and excuses for your stupid decision. There are a particular set of gamers (And you know who you are!!) that are getting "pimped"

[iamgoatman]

I'm finding the level of hypocrisy in the comments posted here pretty disgraceful.

For months before Forza 3 released, you couldn't go into a related article without it being swamped with comments slating Turn 10 for their statements regarding Polyphony Digital, making their admittedly clumsy PR babble out to be something far worse than it actually was. To GT fans, T10 was seen as being arrogant and the lowest form of developer, one that puts down it's competition. The same people stated that PD would never do such a thing, that they were "pure class".

But when one of PD's developers comes out and openly says "the low level of quality really shines through" regarding not just one racing developer, but all of them, this view on disrespecting your competition no longer stands.
Instead we see comments like "he speaks the truth" or the same "PD are pure class", also my favourite "he's a perfectionist", as if that gives him the right to say whatever he pleases, and get away with it.

This goes to show these hypocritical fanboys were out to bash Turn 10 and Forza 3 regardless, but T10's comments gave them something to latch onto. But now with the tables turned, it shows what a bunch of juvenile imbeciles they really are, with their opinions holding no weight whatsoever.

[BLADE_X8]

For years, MS has gotten weak minded people to eat their BS. Real gamers (Those of us, living outside the Matrix) already knew what these posers were all about. MS is a great company, but when you jump into a genre like video games, and try to pull that "Stealing of windows" junk on companies like Nintendo & Sony....sometimes, you "get the horns!" Forza tried to lie about what they could deliver, and gamers saw that. GT is killing any racing game out there, and YOU KNOW IT!! For months, Forza bragged about how they were going to be the defacto in racing...only to be outsold by a sample of Grand Turismo...GT: Prolouge.

There is nothing wrong with being a single genre platform....Nintendo's money makers are games made by Nintendo. Xbox 360 has great online, and FPS....and looking at what they are producing, they are pretty much sticking to it. (Mass Effect 2 is an awesome shooter!) The coments you don't like are true! If gamers of the 360 actually wanted quality, then where is a Tripl-A platformer for the Xbox? Honestly, I liked Project Gotham Racing, and it was the closest thing to Triple-A for MS. But as soon as someone told MS that it would cost more money to make a quality racer great....it got dumped, with sales of the latest game being an excuse. Forza had no intentions of being anything but what Dantes Inferno is to God of War....a clone, with a little spit shine on it. Get mad all you want, then get back and playing Halo & Modern Warfare. (Trying to call out one of the developers of the greatest and most respected racing games ever made will only get you embarrassed on here.)

[iamgoatman]

What did any of that bullsh!t have to do with what I wrote?

All I see is the ramblings of a moronic child, desperately trying to reassure himself by posting nonsensical gibberish. You're the exact problem I mentioned in my previous post.

"GT is killing any racing game out there, and YOU KNOW IT!!"

How silly of me! Of course, that's what I meant to say!

"Trying to call out one of the developers of the greatest and most respected racing games ever made will only get you embarrassed on here"

I think you're embarrassing yourself enough for everyone here.

"Get mad all you want, then get back and playing Halo & Modern Warfare."

I don't play either actually, and the only one getting mad around here is you, kid.

But if you want to continue acting like a fanboy, go ahead, you're only making yourself look stupid.

[Immortal321]

Blade_X8.

the gaming community needs more gamers outside of the matrix. we need more facts than we need an opinion.

@jimmy here's an analogy for you. what happen when you provoke a bull? he attacks. Now are you mad that PD made a response to T10?
well... thats what happens. Who's fault it is anyway?

off topic: we can't judge a quality of an gameplay because the gameplay relates to the genre you prefer, thus, Gameplay=genre.
So what we judge? the graphics right, why? because the eye can't lie but, the mind can deny.

[iamgoatman]

@immortal321

So because Turn 10 made a few clumsy PR statements, every other racing developer deserves their games to be called low quality as well? Explain to me how that works again?

And as Verminox states below, the interview took place in 2008, so who "started it" now?

Also your last statement is total nonsense, so in your eyes graphics are the only thing that matters? Welcome to gaming this gen.

[Immortal321]

"So because Turn 10 made a few clumsy PR statements, every other racing developer deserves their games to be called low quality as well? Explain to me how that works again?"

well look at it like this. actions are louder than words. T10 made claims that they're this, that, and the other, putting PD in the position of being inferior. To prove T10 wrong PD have to out "game" them, and I'm guessing that PD feels that they're the king of racing they calling out everyone.

"so in your eyes graphics are the only thing that matters? Welcome to gaming this gen."

well in my opinion the graphics compliments the gameplay, if it plays good, whats wrong with it looking as good as it plays?
this is no gameplay>graphics or gameplay<graphics. to me it's gameplay=graphics. Sometime you just have to trust the developers insuring a very well done gameplay, having that all is left is how good the game will look.

[Immortal321]

since GT4! wow forza3 just reached 400 cars! GT4 have more cars than forza3! Forza1 brought in the racing line and after that nothing!
pgr4 brought in weather after that nothing.

[Verminox]

This interview was from 2008....

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Verminox]

Welcome to 2008

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[L-a-i-n]

GT has competitors? I never knew that... huh... Anyways I am guessing this is "bs" article for hits. Good job guys and gals for helping them out with that.

[BLADE_X8]

What point are you making? You are still responding to people, with that same BS "Well he said this and she said that." Bottom line: GT developers sat back and let the Forza & MS people try to spin a medicare racer to Xbox fans...then, they simply commented on the quality of Forza. You are still on here, crying about irrelevant stuff. Forza is no (AND NEVER WILL BE) Grand Turismo, which is the point of the topic.

There have been many racers out there, rushing to get out 1st (HEY, HAVEN'T WE SEEN THAT HAPPEN BEFORE??)...not trying to innovate or be creative for fans. why the hell do you thing GT: Prologue sold 4.6 million units while Forza sold 2.2?? (2 million is fantastic, BUT Forza called out GT..and got the horns, FROM A DEMO OF THE REAL GRAND TURISMO 5!!) I was only saying that the Forza folks forgot who they were talking to...this isn't Killzone 2, Resistance 2, or Socom: Confrontation homie. (IT'S FREAKING GRAND TURISMO, AND YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT GT, THEN YOU BETTER GO ASK SOMEBODY!!) Now, I say again, Jimmy Riddle...go back to playing halo and modern warfare. (And stop lying about NOT having/playing either of these games, because the fact that you are mad at what a PS3 game developer said about Xbox 360 game....then you must have a 360. Furthermore, you have either Halo or gears, because they are the main games that 360 gamers play, due to garbage racing attemtps like Forza...and RPG's like Lost Odyess.) PS...bubbles to you, Immortal321...for your great point.

[Sh0ckWav3]

not taking anything from other games? i thought i saw a helpline in the gameplay trailer didnt that come from forza?

[caffman]

shut your gob and just release the game!