Why Xbox 360 Gamers Don't Want MAG

From the PlanetXbox360.com feature editorial:

"Well, congratulations Playstation 3 owners, MAG has finally been out for a bit and admittedly, I'm still not sure how I feel about it. The prospect of games totaling 256 players is intriguing, but should we as 360 owners catch a case of the Green-Eyed Monster and feel some kind of envy? The short answer is no, at least for now. First and foremost, the Xbox 360 community isn't currently hurting for an amalgamation of multiplayer games. While it already goes without saying that the 360 has a dominatingly large library of games, it seems the desire may not quite be there yet for massive multiplayer titles. Also, anyone who has played online will be well aware of the quality of teammates met randomly."

[LaurenKB123]

I agree with the article, but I DO want Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2.....

[Keith Olbermann]

The fact he felt this story had to be written is telling enough. MAG is an awesome game with some flaws that will be ironed out over time..just like any multiplayer game.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

You do the same Chad Warren so you're not any better.

this article is pointless. "xbox360 owners dont want mag"
Who are they to talk for everybody? I personally couldnt care less about MAG but I'm pretty sure some other people would want it.

if anyone would want MAG that bad and only owned a xbox I guess he would go buy a PS3 to play the game as we know it wont come over to xbox.

[raztad]

Funny article. I would buy a xbox360 if MAG was a xbox exclusive. No kidding.

MAG is getting better and better by the day. More experienced players means more fun. We destroyed SVER base in less than 10 mins and hold VALOR off our base.

Even if there is a plethora of multiplayer games none is like MAG.

Go RAVEN.

[deadreckoning666]

The article makes a good point. If u were to ask 5 random 360 owners of the street what M.A.G was they'd be dumbfounded to what you are talking about. However, when KZ3 comes out, I'm sure they'll be MANY 360 owners that'll want it.

[-Alpha]

This is going to open up a can of fire.

Anyways, I think it's pretty obvious MAG isn't that well known and the regular 360 fan is more accustomed to Halo and COD, which is fine. Personally I think something like Halo is better than MAG because of the variety.

MAG is great, but I think if 360 gamers are open minded then they would at least like to try out the game.

It's funny if people find this article arrogant of 360 owners considering many PS3 owners claim they don't want Halo.

The point is that you can't generalize a group of gamers. I would love Halo on PS3 and I'm sure there are some 360 owners who would love MAG

[Major_Tom]

It's well known most Xbox fans want every PS3 exclusive, especially after 2009.

Ouch, hurts my brain just remembering that desert.

[jadenkorri]

Xbox 360 Gamers Don't Want MAG, but yet spend the time to write an article on why they don't want mag because there so called "dominatingly large library of games" is really taking too much of their time....
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anyways go Valor.

[Socrates]

I have a ps3 and I couldn't care less about MAG. I tried it and didn't like it.

[baum]

They have no choice so they have to try to rationalize and make it seem like they opted not to try it.

[ThanatosDMC]

Cant handle that much awesome? I agree with Keith Olbermann and Natsu.

@ raztad

I know! It's insane when there's 22 minutes still left and SVER are all ready fighting at the consoles instead at the bunkers.

Valors are very aggressive now and usually take out our Triple A in a few minutes. Ravens are still gun fodder in Domination maps though.

[TK421]

Whatever, this is the nerd saying he didn't want the hot chick anyway after she turns him down for prom.

[Shepherd 214]

I enjoy tightly refined 4v4 matches. It feels more squad based and less chaotic, and if you go in with a team you know everyone. Large scale, huge player count battles feels like something id want to play once or twice in between dozens of 4v4 matches just to freshen it up some. I really just like a small, personal squad against another, not giant frag fests. It just feels less competitive to me, and its why games like Halo appeal to me. Just what i like.

[UnwanteDreamz]

They shouldn't try and speak for the whole community like that.

If he doesn't want MAG, thats cool. I don't want Halo, but I can think of 3 or 4 titles on the 360 that I would like to play on my PS3

[OmegaSlayer]

I still haven't bought MAG (not a fan of online experiences, but I will support the game and the idea with my purchase), so I can't speak about the quality, but an article to try to assure 360 gamers that they didn't miss anything is quite funny and a bit sad at the same time.

Then, my take is that Zipper has pushed further a boundary in gaming history, so Kudos.

[Azerach]

A funny article.

Seems kind of like damage control to me. 360 gamers want MAG, and now the brave men at planetxbox try to assure 360 gamers that they don't need MAG... that's just LOL

[mikeslemonade]

LOL at 360 gamers. How can you be a 360 gamer when Uncharted 2 came out?

[darkmurder]

Because it sucks?

[Veneno]

Why do 360 gamers always need to be told what to like and what not to like? Are they not capable their own thoughts and opinions?

[silvacrest]

lol @ darkmurder, that come back was weak

on topic, sounds like damage control like others have said
and why make this article? who ever does not want it wont buy it

[Lykon]

"Also, anyone who has played online will be well aware of the quality of teammates met randomly." awwww lol this whole article is an exercise in hiding pain and tears LOL fail

[Blaster_Master]

Im so sick of these pro 360 articles. You sheep actually have to justify your purchase, especially now that you all finally have a game worth playing, ME2. Oh well, good for you guys. Ive been playing AAA exclusives on my ps3 for almost 3 years now. You sheep are far far behind when it comes to AAA content.

[DatNJDom81]

.............................. .............................. . ........................ LMAO!!!!!

Did they just really write this article???? Hold on, I thought 360 fanatics said that "MAG is sux cuz it haz the "low" scorezz". Why write an article about it? LOL. WOW.

@MikesLemonade

I dont know why they would be xbox gamers when MGS4 came out. Thats when I actually stopped playing my 360. I played a little gears then thats it. I mean that sh!t has been off. Oh wait I played ME2.

@Veneno

They need to be told what to like and not like because theres a huge demographic of young gamers on there.

[ThanatosDMC]

You have no idea how MAG works and how everything happens in the game, huh? It's not a fragfest... err... sorta cuz you do have to shoot people.

Individuals for the most part work and stick together with their respective squads because you spawn with them and can only communicate with them. Each squad leader can and do talk to platoon leaders who in turn work with the OIC. The higher ups work together to use artillery, air sweeps, air strikes, jamming, blockades, rapid deployment, poison/gas strike, bombing runs, recharge, etc.

It's great to see how your squad and people not from your squad sweep the whole area for enemies hiding and waiting to repair destroy forward spawn points or the triple A. If an enemy or a bunch of them are found you see all of your teammates converge at that one or a couple of red dots till they're dead. Usually happens when your team starts para-dropping behind enemy lines.

Rent it first for those curious about it and are worried about reviews. Buy it immediately if you love Battlefield 2 and everything will feel great. Shotgun w/machine pistol is great for attacking a bunker with lots of defenders.

[jack_burt0n]

@Veneno

lol funny sh*t.

[Man In Black]

Judging by how much they talk about it, you'd think they were desperate for it.

[Sarcasm]

Translation: "Pfft... Who needs MAG anyway? We really don't want MAG. I mean come on, 256 players? We don't want that even if it could be done. I mean... come on... Maybe if they do make a game that isn't MAG that does 256 players, we'd buy it as long as it's not MAG. MAG is for sissies. 16 players is more than enough. Of course we never experienced 256 players on anything before so of course we don't need it. Pfft... MAG MAG MAG... MAGGGGGGGGGG... MAGGGGGG!!! WE DON'T WANT IT!!! I have to spend 2 hours writing an article on how much we don't want it! Forget making an article about how great 16-32 players is, we'd rather write an anti-MAG letter!!!"

[FACTUAL evidence]

Who ever said that the 360 fans wanted MAG?.....guilty conscious huh? It's almost like a cry for help, and attention.

[SL1M DADDY]

It is doing what has not been done before and for anybody to dog on the game without taking that into account is purely out of their mind. If you cannot find a gem in seeing 256 players online in a single match then you are missing the point. It may not be my cup of tea and I have not bought the game but I still respect what Zipper has done here and it is awesome to see that consoles now have the capability to run 256 players online at one time and not slow down or crash or even run with horrible PS2 like graphics. This game is a pioneer in the console business and keep an eye out for more like it as the years come.

[2Spock]

The biggest flaw of MAG will never ever be ironed out and that is people that play it. The game relies on every squad to do their part and each person to do what each squad leader wants you to do. With that it almost makes the game unenjoyable at all. Half the time people leave before the game starts or swaps to another squad which makes the game worse when you start. So you start the game with 5-6 people in your squad then 2-3 of those guys wonder off. So you try to vote kick and nothing. Out of the 100+ games i have played i have had 14 major victories, that's sad really sad. I am to the point where once Battlefield 2 comes out i will not ever play mag again and i am thinking about just playing MW2 for the time being. I love the gameplay of MAG and i love playing it. But people ruin the experience 99% of the time.

[Real Gambler]

People saying that they prefer 4 players against waves of AI opponents so MAG is bad. Then, people saying 4 against 4 is the way to go so MAG is bad.

In my book, the PS3 is the only one offering all the fun those people claim the best, and on top of that is now offering 128 against 128 LIVE people.

So sorry, but forget 4 players against AI opponents, it's much better 8 against waves of real players. Forget about 4 against 4, but try it with 8 against 8 while other real squads are fighting all over the place. When you see a bullet flying over your head, it's a real human that fired it. If a grenade explode somewhere on the map, it's a real human who threw it.

MAG is now bringing a new type of game on the board, and trust me, it's there to stay. Sure, some people may like only 4 players games, but heck, we can now play 128 against 128, thanks to Zipper. This is a technological feat guys, congrat!

[SilentNegotiator]

PlanetXbox360, FUD'ing it up like usual.

[sikbeta]

1· Cuz iz da PS3 Ezclusive lol

2· Who cares, even if they want it, they need a PS3 to play it....

[BloodyNapkin]

Have you lost your mind? You are saying if you like Battlefield 2 you will like MAG? That has to be dumbest comment i have read on here in a while. Yeah it's a FPS and they both have guns but that's about all to compare to each game. IMO MAG does not hold a candle to Battlefield 2, go ahead and flame me i understand it has 256 players. Bigger doesn't always make it better and in MAG's case it makes it worse. Cause you have to rely on a bunch of retards that play the game.

[otherZinc]

This article didn't have to be written.

MAG has no campaign: no co-op: & is a last gen looking game.

Heavy Rain is a joke that's going to sell "only" to SONY fanatics first month & to 10 people the following month.

Please, Mass Effect 1 & 2, also, Bioshock 2 will be played until March.

For those that like MAG, enjoy.

[SPACEBALL 1]

xbox gamers dont want mag because it sucks... plain and simple

[VileAndVicious]

MAG is unlike any other FPS Ive ever played. I love it. And IF MAG was an Xbox360 exclusive this article would be vastly different.

[DirtyLary]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Another I can't have it so I'm gonna bash it article.

[raztad]

I find interesting so many people having "opinions" about a game they never played. hehehhe funny stuff. Very opinionated about videos and reviews. Keep playing videos and reviews while real gamers play games.

@Spock

You make an interesting point about people failing to play MAG the right way. I'm Level 31 Senior Dragon or something like that. I've came across with so many different players. Played 3 matches yesterday, the first one was a disaster, no coordination and people failing at teamwork. The second on the other hand was very well coordinated and we overran SVER base in a matter of few minutes. I'm pretty sure the community is getting better and the factions are starting to even out. Have fun with whatever you are playing. BC2 looks fun.

[Kornholic]

Xbox 360 gamers don't want MAG because they can't have it. Nothing stops them from buying a PS3, though.

I'd like to see Xbox Live run 256 players. It can barely handle 32 players. That is the "great" service many find themselves paying for.

[JokesOnYou]

I don't own MAG, I'm a huge shooter fan so I'd like to play it though, but I mostly play shooters on 360, love the controller and thats where most of my bud's game, the only shooters I played on ps3 were RFOM2 and KZ2, they were good but #1 there was never much communication online and #2 a couple months after release there wasn't much of a community playing those games, they died off pretty quickly in my experience with those games.

IMO based only on what I've seen(gameplay) and read MAG looks like an average shooter, which is fine but I'm in no hurry to run out and pick it up right now. For me and most of the guys I know we're sticking with (much hated on this site only) MW2 until BBC2 comes out, theres just so many quality games available now that we can be really picky about our choices and I've just learned that I enjoy 360's Live atmosphere more than psn.

JOY

[Sez]

" Xbox 360 gamers don't want MAG because they can't have it". dude lets be real here. not many sonyfanboys want this game. so whats your point. and your comment about games that support 256 players. news flash for you. more player doesn't equal a great game. as you have seen with the reviews it's been getting.

ontopic:
i have to agree with the arthur. 360 owner don't want mag or feel the need to care about it. especially when games like MW2,halo 3/odst,BFBC2. so a game like MAG really wouldn't matter to 360 owners. when there are much better games coming out or already out.

[ThanatosDMC]

I'm sorry, i didnt know you were such an expert. Please forgive my dumb comment since im one of those retards.

[nycredude]

Anyone who complains that MAG sucks because of the players is a retard. There is a robst clan systtem and grouping system. You meet people adn it's incredibly easy to add them to your friends list. I have met many new friends and my friends list has grown be at least 30 since I started playing. If you are good enough peole swill take notice and invite you to their clan. It not just a game but a social network of fps players testing their skills , tactics and getting better all the time. All this hate is unfounded and frankly it mkes me sick. You people need to stop hating and just play games. iIf you don't like something fine move on but don't hate it. Sony and zipper are trying something new and all they get is hate. Hating on Sony is so fvcking old now. grow up people.

[BlackTar187]

bloody napkin i have played BF since 1942 well on 10years now and yes it has alot of things to do with BF your lying if it didnt. The way the cmdr sets points/air strikes is basically the same. They both require teamwork to take points i dont care how good of BF player you are you cant win the game by yourself go thru enemy lines and take out there def. with out help or capture points all by yourself and then hold them. So im not the only BF player who sees this. The problem si people (Its a pref.) who would rather be lone wolf(A BF classification) compared to teams. I have a SVER name and the community is def. getting better playing us .

But this whole comment section and article reeks of sour grapes if you didnt care or didnt want it you wouldnt need to justify your feeling you wouldnt be here trying to explain to us why you dont want it. you dont want it great no need to tell us it sounds sad i recommend getting both systems play all the games and not just hate to hate its very unbecoming and unhealthy to the medium. Sad that someone can hate and love video games so much its unhealthy. BTW MAG was weak sauce for about 4hrs game time after that a couple of upgrades and it gets better and better.

If you say ohh but retards that is the dumbest comment ever so sorry you would be forced to try and work as a team one thing that is wrong with this gen is its all about being selfish me me me me were all gamers here people lets act like a community that cares about growth and we will be a much stronger force.

Edit Maybe 1942 wasnt 10yrs ago but it feels like it

[VileAndVicious]

Honestly Vega most "sonyfan-boys" as you put it, are just as obsessed about their games receiving perfect scores as the xbox360 fanatics that constantly troll MAG's review articles. So they are confused as to whether or not to defend the game or not. Or they just haven't played it because they "heard" is was bad.

More interesting though is that MAG has actually received very good scores as well. No one ever seems to bring up 1up, Gamespot, Joystiq, Kotaku or the others.
So is MAG for everybody? No its not. Its not a bad game by any means Ive played BBC2 (wasn't impressed it to me felt like killzone2 with vehicles and semi destructible environments.)and I traded in MW2. Ive played them all.

MAG is very unique and it seems to me that the only people who dog it are people who haven't played it, or seriously just wanted to hate it. No one that I know that has purchased the game has had anything but positive things to say about it; So it is a little unfair to say "Oh well some people who reviewed it didn't like it so they must be right"
256 players is more than just a selling point it is a part of the atmosphere. You are but a single entity in a full scale war. NO OTHER GAME THIS GENERATION GIVES YOU THAT FEELING. NOT BAD COMPANY 2. NOT MODERN WARFARE. That is why MAG is different, unique. Its not bland I challenge you to state another game that has come out in the past 3 years that has accomplished this feat. You cant. Name another game that forces you to cooperate with you team members the way you do in MAG. You cant. No other game has the command structure and no other game has a leveling system as deep.

I hate Gears of war and if I reviewed it Id probably give it a 6.5. Does that mean you wouldn't like it? No. Does that mean that you shouldn't play it? No. All opinions are subjective. Just like this lame article. The only real opinion that should matter is yours AFTER you've played the game and not before. And to me it seems like to the most people who seem to comment on MAG are 360 exclusive owners who never played the game to begin with. That is either biased or envy you take your pick.

So I ask you VEGA or anyone else reading this post; Have you played MAG for longer than 30 minutes? (Youtube videos dont count.) Have you at least made it to LV 15?

[jwatt]

I'm a playstation guy myself and I played both betas but I was not impressed with the game. I mean it's really cool that there is 256 players online but it doesn't matter to me if the gameplay isn't good. Crappy animations and gun sound effects aren't that great either. There's just a lot of better shooters that's already out or is coming out.

[lessthanmarcus]

I would REALLY REALLY love to able to play Warhawk, MAG, Uncharted, Socom, and MGS4 with all my XBL friends

[goflyakite]

Why Xbox 360 Gamers Don't Want MAG;

Because they can't have it.

Anyways, this website is garbage. Do they have any worth while articles?

[Sez]

so let me get this straight. i have to play MAG for 15+ hour or my opinion isn't valid. yet people on this very site will form an opinion about a game on just screen shots. hypocrite much i see

anyway. your long wall of text only proves that you and many sonyfanboys care for this game. your selling point is that it has 256 players. AGAIN more players doesn't equal a great game. I'm sure many games that was rated low also got good reviews from other sites. does that make it a good game. because a couple of reviewers may feel the need to give it a good score. when most reviewers gave it a low score for a reason. and by you trying to convince everyone that MAG is this great game. when it isn't. and if i was to go by many fanboys on this site that uses review score to determine quality games. this isn't one of them. no matter how much you try to make it into.

[Keita101]

Mag brings many new things to the table, but their are too many flaws imo to justify the purchase on my end. i bought ME2 over mag this month. for my online, i'll stick with Uncharted 2 and Halo 3 until they iron out mag's flaws.

[Old Greg]

A 360 Gamer <--I can only assume he means someone who only games on a 360, and is somewhat of a fanboy. So why would a 360 fanboy want a PS3 game?

[cmrbe]

The biggest advantage the x360 has against the PS3 is Live. MAG is a testament that PSN infrastructure wise is more robust that Live.

MAG hit a nerve with the online x360 faithful. Thats why they have responded with this type of article trying to downplay what MAG has achieve and keep telling themselves that they don't want it. I don't blame them. It would be luck if MS and their devs could host 256 players games even with the next xbox.

[The Lazy One]

I'd take Bad Company 2 over mag regardless of platform...

[VileAndVicious]

LOL you obviously didnt read anything written and your too much of a fanboy yourself to understand. It seems that if anyone says anything positive about a game you dont care for you get all defensive. I wonder why?
I pity you, I really do. Your really missing out on a great game. But I dont need to defend MAG the community will attest to that. Its obvious that you've never played it or you'd know it doesn't take 15 hours to reach 15 lol. But back to your halo sir.
Oh and check your facts. Im no SONY fanboy I own both systems.

[Silly gameAr]

Thanks for the pointless article. Thumbs up.:)

Edit: No Ender. It's pretty pointless. Gears of War? I love the game, but it just doesn't stack up to 256 players online at once. I don't care how many people are on the the all mighty XBOX Live.

256 players is a huge achievement And, I believe MAG is only the beginning. Doesn't matter how many people are playing after six months. That's the beauty of variety. People actually move on to other games. In the end, the game has a dedicated fanbase so the community is still there no matter how large of small.

You want to talk about dominating? I want to see Live pull off 256 players AT ONCE with the the super great community that Live is suppose to have. There would be reports left and right.

[-Alpha]

And in all honesty it's pretty vague.

It can't speak for all owners of a console. I for one would love Halo on PS3 and I'm sure some 360 owners would love MAG.

I think that in general the 360 and PS3 both have shooters that are better than MAG and in that sense MAG isn't the BEST choice for a shooter, but like you said it has its fans and there's no reason to slander the game as if it's unwanted or unloved.

Note that PS3 owners too make claims like "We don't want Halo", but they don't speak for me or other PS3 owners who would love Halo. Again, in general games like COD or Killzone or MAG are preferred but that doesn't mean we should treat Halo like it would not benefit the PS3. Variety is great and the more games I can choose from on a console the better.

Also, regarding LIVE running 256 players, they really don't have to. Number of players don't make a game better or worse, just different, and in cases like MAG, bold and somewhat unique.

@kaveti

Exactly, it's not a hardware issue. Zipper made the initiative to do it, but that doesn't mean MS or gamers WANT 256 players to be a standard. In that sense I agree with the article title. 256 is NOT a new standard, it's just a different experience. I still love my 10-32 player games as do many others.

[kaveti6616]

That would never happen. MAG needed a lot of advanced netcoding AND dedicated servers to be able to run with 256 players on a map with limited to no lag.

It's not a 360 hardware problem. Microsoft just doesn't have anyone, in my opinion, who is going to create netcode as good as what Zipper did with MAG. Plus, Microsoft refuses to use dedicated servers for even their most beloved games.

[Godmars290]

You can say its not a hardware or programming issue, that XBL could support a game such as MAG, but that doesn't change the fact that there isn't an example on XBL to back up your claim.

As far as I know Fat Princess can have more players in it than any 360 title.

[Dev8 ing]

The fact that MAG was released with fewer glitches/bugs and 10 times the number of players than Gears 2 and MW2 (arguably the biggest multiplayer games of recent years) is commendable.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Thank You

What you have said should ring true to anyone who has played both games. I think it is a shame that no one seems to be giving Zipper credit for what they really achieved here.

[kaveti6616]

And what exactly was my claim, Godmars? Seriously, I am so f*cking tired of people asking me to back up claims that I don't even make. All I said was, netcoding is not related to hardware. Therefore, the physical limitations of the Xbox 360 are not taken into account when asking the question of how many players can you put into a match on XBL.

And if you think I am wrong about this, then please, please for your own good, do some research on the differences between engine code and net code. Telling me that my claim needs to be backed up does not make you some superior blogger. Your comments are really useless if all you do is reply to other people and tell them to prove themselves.

[2Spock]

Actually you are wrong. I have had yet to have MW2 to freeze my PS3 or spawn to be stuck in mid air and just had to leave the game or my gun and reticle just disappear. While i know there is so called glitches that you have to do this special thing to get to work in MW2. But for people that just play the game is not going to encounter any glitches, but you can get glitches to work if you go out of your way. But for people that just play games MAG has way more glitches that happen than MW2.

[mastiffchild]

You know, this discussion throws up the biggest issue thatb Live has atm-the paucity of games with dedicated servers. If Live truly wanted to merit it's "premium" status then surely making dedicated servers compulsory for online games would be the quickest way, no?

It's always struck me as odd that PSN, and particularly some Sony published titles, support edicated servers while MS seem to frown on the practise when it's, surely, one of the biggest benefits available today and it puzzles me why MS persist in think P2P is fine whn it hamstrings a lot of their games and would be a key way to say theuir service was better than the competition. There being more PSN games that use them is kind of ass backwards when that's the freee option and, to me, community features being easier to access doesn't compare to something tha actively improves the core online gaming experience by tackling most lag issues.

Apart from any PSN/Live comparisons I also feel that it's left a large portrion of the Live userbase ignorant of what dedicated servers do and is holding back games like MW2 from using them. If MS pushed more devs to use them on Live Acti wouldn't get away with using outdated P2P and maybe dedicated servers wopuld have eradicated the farce that Gears2 was online. Live is a very slick service, no doubt about it, but giving us more dedicated serverers would be much better than options like XGC and invites to me and ass it stands the fact that so few Live games use them is holding us all back online in console gaming as a great many 360 only gamers don't have an inkling what dedicaed servers are even for purely because most of trhe big games they play on Live do not use them-it als shocks me that so little is made of this fact when sites compare the two services.

Seriously, if MS made them compulsory there would be no argumemnt as to which service you should be using-unles Sony did the same and so far Sony has actually done more in this regard than MS has-why? I often wonder if some 360 gamers think that MAG must klag wildly because of their own P2P experiences and just imagining how bad Gears2 would lag with that number playing-honestly, a lot of people just don't know what the merits are.

[creatchee]

I don't think that Microsoft "frowns" on dedicated servers - it's just that more goes into it than one would assume. Plus there's really not too many games on 360 that NEED dedicated servers to play well.

Just going off of my experiences with Zipper games, there's the obscene amount of dedication to the netcoding. I mean - as HUGE as the maps are in MAG with all of the cool scenery and objects, I'm almost positive that more work went into the actual online aspect of the game than the rest of the game itself.

There are the server downtimes that are required to make sure that the game KEEPS running well. Plus there's the fact that in order for the game to be played 10 years from now, you STILL have to keep those servers running. A P2P game only requires 2 consoles where a dedicated server game requires, umm, servers :)

There have been games on 360 with dedicated servers - L4D 1+2, UT3, Section 8, etc. Then again, Uncharted 2 doesn't use dedicated servers over on the PS3 end, so it's not necessarily a "XBOX does this, PS3 does that" situation. But you also have to consider what each console is doing with their online gaming IN GENERAL. The big names on PSN with dedicated servers are KZ2, Resistance 1+2, and of course MAG. Those games simply COULD NOT run on a P2P basis. Go over to the XBOX side, you have games like Halo and Gears that COULD benefit from dedicated, but really don't need it (whereas a game like L4D can run either, but runs a lot better with it due to the calculations that the director does when changing the game around).

To sum - 360 exclusives typically don't need dedicated servers because the games themselves don't support (and aren't designed for) as many players as many of the PS3 exclusives do. They can use and have used dedicated servers in certain instances, but that seems to be a developer choice rather than a Microsoft choice.

[TheDeadMetalhead]

But 360 gamers DO want MAG. Why do you think there were tons of fanboys trolling every MAG review? Sounds like jealousy to me. ;o

[UltimaEnder]

not so sure that's true, the real test is to see how many people are still playing in 6 months online....and how come when it's a pro-PS3 article it's awesome (see HHG for examples) but a well-written one looking at the other side of things is pointless, jokers!

[40cal]

I will be playing MAG for the rest of this Gen.

[deadreckoning666]

"But 360 gamers DO want MAG. Why do you think there were tons of fanboys trolling every MAG review? Sounds like jealousy to me. ;o"

Ur using N4G to determine what 360 owners across the nation believe. I guarantee you the majority of 360 owners in America don't know what N4G is, what E3 is, or who Adam Sessler is.

[Socrates]

Then what does that say about the far greater number of ps3 fanboys trolling in articles about 360 games? I guess ps3 fanboys want 360 games even more than 360 fanboys want ps3 games.

[dalibor]

Well going by the Alexa stats that account for how much traffic sites get N4G is ranked at 2,286 out of 10million. Here is the address check it out for yourself http://www.alexa.com/search...

Just wanted to add not sure how accurate it is though.

[Odin777]

Nah I don't think it's jealously, I think it's just pure douchebaggery. Every time an exclusive comes out fanboys just go apesh*t over less than stellar reviews, vice versa. It's the lifeblood of N4G without the fanboys it would not exist.

[Dorwrath]

So whenever there is a post about Halo and every single PS3 Fanboy is in that post, that means that everyone of them wants Halo on the PS3.

By your definition that is the case.

With the title of this article mentioning the 360, then of course it has to do with the 360 players.

[Jigga69]

If you don't care don't talk.

[Double Toasted]

...its not on their console of choice? Remember, Sony said people will buy a PS3 for MAG...

[Kamikaze135]

Never thought I'd see one of these in my lifetime =0

[blitz0623]

Because they're too stubborn and refuse to like any PS3 exclusive, be it a GotY-quality or a mediocre game.

All they do is hate on those games, hence the trolling on MAG, Heavy Rain, WKC, etc.

[W831SOLIDSNAKE]

XBOTS don't have a choice.... Period

[polow got sol]

Mag and WKC are flops, maybe thats why we dont want em?? ever thought of that

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Because we have good games to play

[nix]

you cracked me up.

last time i heard you guys were playing Gears of War 2 5vs5 multiplayer. and paying for it too.

the world has moved ahead guys. time to jump out of that well you've been living in, frog.

[Dev8 ing]

Let's also not forget how messed up Gears 2 online was with only 10 people. Peer 2 peer sucks. Paying for Peer 2 peer when everyone else has dedicated servers really sucks.

[snaz27]

eventually i do want a game like mag on the 360, nill and void everthing he said before it?... i dont want, i dont want, i dont want!... well eventually i want! never heard something so stupid! anyway its all pointless cos the fact is 360 only gamers cant play it, simples.

[PostApocalyptic]

The "Tell them (360 fanboys) what they want to hear article...."

What funny is that, IMO, MAG is a 8.4 rated game. Not a 9.5 like MW2. But it doesn't matter. MAG will lay the ground work for an excellent future franchises. Beware xbots!

Now go back to your 8v8!

[talltony]

if you go to youtube and watch videos of mag you will see alot of 360 only gamers comments drueling over it. The ones that cant stand mw2 anymore aka the smart ones.

But for real people, MAG is completely playable and fun. I hated the beta, the final game is very polished, the only negative I can say is that you get the same maps in certain modes alot. But MAG is by far the best team based mp game I have ever played and I have played them all. I dont know one person who has the game that doesnt like it.

[Yoma]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

they want to stick with their hhalo

[avengers1978]

Let's get realistic here people the 360 could not support 256 players, and be honest 256 13 year old kids screaming racisit remarks and gay slander. How many times in one match is someone going to rape me jeeze give a guy a break already.

[LEGENDARY PELON]

the only games to touch XBL are high caliber shooting games!

no flops allowed!

[Delta]

PPL Want what they cant have.

[Sarcasm]

Actually, they HATE what they cant have. If MS ever released a game with 256 players that looks half as good as MAG, the 360 fanboys would go bananas for that game.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

You cant want something you have no chance in h3ll of getting only dream about it

[unchartedgoty]

THERE USED TO 15V15 ON A MAP. NOT 256 LOL

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

What happen to that game....? Is that the name of it

[GSpartan777]

written by a terrible self proclaimed journalist looking for more hits on his site by attacking fans of a specific game.

[Nathan Drake2]

x360 gamers are satisfied with max of 32 players.resistance,lanch game for ps3 had 40 players support.resistance 2 had 60 players and now MAG 256.who said that xbox live is not superior?

[Socrates]

Get your facts straight. Frontlines: Fuel of War on the Xbox 360 supported up to 50 players.

However, having more players does not make a game better. MAG and Fronlines Fuel of War have tons of players, but they aren't even as good as many other online shooters with fewer players.

In my opinion, between 10 and 32 total players is about optimal.

[ThanatosDMC]

Say that after you play MAG. No, seriously. Join SVER.

[Theoneneo81]

Because its not Hablows thats the only exclusive the bots love anyway.

[Dev8 ing]

It's also the only decent exclusive FPS.

[Convas]

Epic Fail.

[unrealgamer58]

of course they wouldn't want it, with exclusives like halo3, halo 2, halo odst. of course they would want high quality fps games that aren't generic at all. lol

[Oldsnake007]

oh the irony

[spektical]

i want mag... but im buying bfbc2.. i've been an avid BF player since bf2.. :) BUT if i have financial resources i will but it off the gamefly store.

[LordMarius]

Maybe if it had power rangers, lol

[TheBand1t]

If you don't want it, why bother making an article about it?

[gtamike123]

But they want MGS4 and they can't have it :)

[jdktech2010]

I know about MAG and I'm just not that interested.

2 reasons: I have enough games as it is (own a PS3 as well and with ME2, MW2 and looking ahead to GOW3 and FF13....) and just don't have the capital to devote to a game I might like or might not.

2) That seems like too many people to me. Like, you spawn and then 3 seconds later your dead. I think the command structure is kinda cool but no one's gonna do that anyway unless your in a clan. Otherwise, you'll just have people running around lone wolfing it.

3) I don't care which console "wins". I enjoy the games I want and could give two craps whether some PS3 fanboy or 360 fanboy agrees with me. Get a life guys. If the game is that good, and you enjoy it, then go play the freaking thing.

I'm about to do that with ME2. I hardly replay games but it's gonna happen at least 3-5 times with this one. Anyway, can't wait for X10 on thursday. I doubt people will know (never know though), but can you watch X10 online anywhere or is it live blogs we have to follow?

[iceman06]

Just wanted to comment a bit on your second point. I have played MAG in the 3 betas and currently own the game. Trust me when I say that the lone wolf players will assimilate faster than you think. Reason? Experience!!! As soon as they see a player with 2 kills and 15 deaths ahead of them in XP they will get the point. Might take one game or ten, but they all come around. In fact, it's pretty easy to tell who is new to the game because they try and do the lone wolf thing. Then, they start asking questions. The command structure pretty much ensures that orders can be given for more XP. Plus, people that are in any of the major battles (Acquisition, Sabotage, and Domination) have to be at a certain level of experience.
As to your 1st point...I am in the same boat...and sinking FAST!!!*LOL*

[Dsnyder]

Im so hurt.

[Unicron]

Butthurt article is butthurt.

[Socomer 1979]

This Bot Site Just Realized 1 Game Exposes XBOXLIVE.

DAMAGE CONTROL!

$$$
PAY FOR WHAT?
Oh Yeah, I Almost Forget... A Superior Service Miles Better Than PSN Right...?
But Ummm... HOW?

Too Late to ask questions now. Youre Credit Card Has Just Renewed your "GOLD" Contract.
Its Time to Defend That Desicion.

Jerk Offs.

[Jackel2072]

god i love the fanboyisum on this site. keep fighting im just going to get the pop corn =)

[Colonel-Killzone]

N4g needs to stop putting pointless articles this is just irrelevant i don't see any reason to put this article. (sigh)

[ijkabob]

Lemme summarize it...

"here is always one player or group of players I’m certain we’re all familiar with. The douchebag(s). These are the players that scream, sing, and otherwise make us clamor for the mute button faster than we ever though possible"

Honestly. I havn't EVER run into this problem...Anyone else on PS3 run into this issue? I know 360 is known for it but it can't really be that different. Plz post a reply with your experience and how often it happens and on which console. Really good reason dude... And there other reason is its not a co-op game... let me just read a little more...

"that makes me believe this game can’t possibly be as fun or playable once released in the proverbial wild of the Playstation Network."
YOU'RE WRITING THIS WITHOUGHT PLAYING THE GAME!?!?!

Can't initially play 256 player matches. Must level up to level 10... Yes, People tipically play a game that they just spent 60 dollars on enough to level up to 1/6 of the max level...

"After all, when sixteen players on average can be found in a Halo 3’s Big Team Battle or Modern Warfare 2’s Ground War, is there really a need for more than that"

YES! the game feel changes... It does honestly. Its hard to describe but no game feels the same.

"I would like to see a game like this released on the Xbox 360 eventually, pending it can offer relatively interesting scenarios."

So you do need MAG on 360?

[Dev8 ing]

Level 10 isn't 1/6 the way through the game. The number of points to level up increases as you get higher ranked. I think level 59-60 was more points than getting to level 10. Also 60 isn't the cap, it just lets you start veteran mode at that point. Your levels will increase but there aren't any more ranks beyond level 60.

[madpuppy]

I personally have never experienced the any of those annoying, foul mouths, singers, screamers, and the generally annoying people that inhabit every on-line game on XBL while playing a game on PSN.

actually, it is quite refreshing to play on PSN because of that difference.

[macalatus]

My fellow Sony gamers, the reason why the misguided kids of the videogames industry, aka the 360 dumb kids, wouldn't want MAG is that 256 gamers would completely overload Xbox Live, causing it to LAG even more!

Another reason is this...

You see, the classy, mature, and intelligent gamers aka the Sony gamers, communicate with each other in order to achieve their in-game missions. The steaming mass of stupidity, more well known as the 360 dumb kids, would rather be content shooting their own team mates as well as acting like morons. For that reason alone, the whole concept of MAG, which requires high-quality minded people, wouldn't work on the brainwashed army of Microsoft.

Sony Gamers Lead the Way!

[Socrates]

Ah ha ha ha ha! You're too funny.

[nix]

i totally agree!

[caffman]

all the games I've played of Killzone 2 were practically devoid of voice comms at all!

[Strikepackage Bravo]

this sounds like the type of article a PS3 fansite would write in an effort to convince the world how much PS3 fans don't want a Halo like game on PS3 LOL!

The only difference is 360 fans really don't want MAG, you guys say he's over stepping in speaking for everyone but, ask yourselves, who the "F" do you know on XBL that gives a rip about, MAG!?!?!

[Dev8 ing]

Everyone I know that is interesting in Halo has a 360 except 1 dude that plays part 2 on PC.

[keysy420]

damn we know this will never go multiplat. and isnt fanboyism dead its 34 to 39 give it up

[Socomer 1979]

Really?
Now How does MAG make you feel ?
Oh thats too bad, but tell me... what feelings are you going thru when you read about the playstation networks performance ?

lmao !

This is a article that subliminally tells children & weak minded americans that on xboxlive you have friends to play with & on psn theres nothing but mute strangers.
so in order for its followers to justify this misinformation. they have to disregard several advantages of PSN.

MMO/MMO GENRE GAMES
FREE
DEDICATED SERVERS/ LIMITED LAG
INTERNET BROWSER
BD LIVE
OBJECTIVE GAMEPLAY WITH HIGHER PLAYER COUNTS
PSP COMPATIBILITY
AD-HOC PARTY
XMB
HOME
SIXAXIS GAMEPLAY
EXCLUSIVE GAMES
GAMES
GAMES
GAMES
& MORE GAMES

Thank You.

[churroe]

I want MAG and i'm a 360 gamer O_O.
I don't get why if you have a 360, you have to limit yourself to 360 games. So 360 has some good games and sony has some good games too.

[TheBand1t]

Run away from this site. Please. You are far too pure. All that is left on this site are foul beasts and trolls, seeking to taint that purity.

[KimoNoir]

You wonder why PS3 don't have that much screamers?

1. 1/4 gamers buys the PS3 console compared to 3/4 buy the Xbox 360.

2. 1/4 of the gamers on PS3 has a mic compared to every xbox 360 that is bought which includes a mic. Which practically means that out of 256 players, you will only hear 20-25 people talk out of the whole lobby.

3. It's obvious that a 360 owner that buys a PS3 expects to talk but, unfortunately he can't use his regular mic plug but, instead buy a USB microphone or blue tooth.

Thats why you hardly hear screams on the PS3. Let alone anyone that talks on the Ps3 at all...

Im no fanboy either lol, I'm just stating the obvious!

[ThanatosDMC]

Most people have their mics at ready in MAG they just dont talk. Yes, i agree with you.

I just hate OICs (guy head of all four platoons in a team) that feel that their voices need to be heard for the whole 30 minutes of a Domination game especially those who have nothing good to say. Cuss words, racist comments, sexist comments, sexual blah blah, and other crap for 30 minutes is not fun especially since when the OIC talks every sound in the game is lowered so everybody in the team can hear him speak.

[Dev8 ing]

It's obvious that you haven't played the game. You don't have everyone in the lobby talking at once. The OIC is the only person that can talk to everyone. Platoon leaders can talk to everyone in their platoon.

[Dev8 ing]

You mean 3 out of your 4 friends have an xbox and 1 of your 4 friends has a PS3. Many people have mics and just don't use them. The reason you don't have as much screaming is because there aren't as many 10-16 year olds on the PS3.

[kneon]

I've been on many squads where everyone had a mic and no one talks unless there is a reason to do so. My mic is always on when playing MAG and I talk a fair bit as I often play as a sniper so I can usually see more of what is going on. But I'm only talking because I need to tell the squad something, not because I have some need to babble on about nothing.

[IHateYouFanboys]

Ive got a PS3 and i didnt care for MAG at all after playing the Beta.

Ive also got a 360 and quite frankly i would care if Generic Action Game came out on it, because i dont like it on the platform its already on so why would i care for it on a different platform?

[emk2004]

not stupid planetxbox360 again. people say hhg is bad but this site only talks about ps3 exclusives when there downplaying them there a joke. lol they dont even review ps3 games and they act like there credible.

to say no 360 gamers want mag is ludicrous, all people on 360 do is play fps.

[SnukaTheMan]

If i wanted mag I would of purchased a ps3....where I can also pick up uncharted 1 and 2....and demon souls....but you know what...dont want to...I will wait until the ps3 is 200 dollars then I can jump onto that bandwagon.....until then I will enjoy the games on the xbox as I have been.

[DelbertGrady]

The reviews and gameplay videos haven't really convinced me. It seems decidedly average to me, and I've read it's unbalanced as well(SVER ftw). Even if it was on the 360 I would rather wait for BF: BC2.

[kerrak]

I feel sorry for you Soda. You won't be able to experience this great game. Not only reviews or gameplay videos can't show the whole picture. This game is one of those that grows on you, really big, and not in just a few hours.
There is no game today that can provide you with a bigger sense of accomplishment when you attain objectives as a unit (as opposed to lone rambo gameplay). This is of course if you like shooters and teamwork.
There is a big community growing on MAG right now. This game is not for everybody as it is a bit harsh on people used to COD-tactics. It has good shooting mechanics as many other FPS, it has decent graphics (not brilliant admitedly), it doesn't reinvent the wheel in fps terms, but gives you an insane amount of things to take care of while you play, and this is due to the amount of players. It's much more than shooting/hiding.
Some common concepts present in mag that you'll rarely find in other shooters:
-plan tracing
-regroup
-follow squad leader orders
-check your surroundings much more than other games
-Change your typical run/shoot/run/shoot/hide/run tactics with approach/clean/plant-defuse/hi de/consolidate/regroup/run tactics
-There are big differences in attacking and defending strategies
-customization that rewards very different types of play styles.
-massive maps. As of today, with 40 hours logged-in there are still places in the map where i have no exact idea of where i am. Think of BFBC maps slightly bigger, with square shape, with no transition zones and where relevant action can take place anywhere at any given moment, due to presence of multiple important primary or secondary objectives that dinamically alter main battle (of course there are crowded frontlines and killzones too). On top of this there are usually multiple paths to get anywhere on the map.
-Spawn points are 99% of time secure zones.
-.....

[DelbertGrady]

When you describe it it sounds really cool actually. I have a friend who has a PS3 and has been on the edge about getting it. Might persuade him to so I can get to try it out as well :) hx for the info.

[raztad]

@kurry

+bubble bro. Very good job describing the thing.

@soda

The first 2-4 hours in MAG suck hard. You are weak as hell. Be patient, upgrade your gear, rank up to level 8 and unlock Domination. Give it a good try. If game doesnt grow on you it's just not your thing. Dont forget Kill/Death ratio means sh*t in MAG. You gain XP getting the job done.

[onanie]

It could be said that "the desire may not quite be there yet for massive multiplayer titles" since it does not exist on the 360. It certainly has been a welcome experience for me, personally.

[Godmars290]

All I'm reading is a guy who's never touched MAG and is trying his best to ignore the fact that no 360 game even comes close to having as many players on at one time.

[ThanatosDMC]

Agreed. We have a bunch of people like this here on N4G.

[Legend of Yaslint]

Uncharted 2, Little big planet, and demon's souls. That is why I own a PS3. MAG is a very bland and underwhelming shooter IMO. I rented it and after a couple days of playing finally gave up all hope of getting addicted to it like some claim.

It just feels very tame and the guns all feel very weak. It's not a bad game really, it's just that there are a lot of shooters already on the market that are vastly superior, especially in terms of fun factor IMO.

[Relientk77]

because xbox live will lag

sooo many players

lol

(its a joke people) :)

[W-k]

why ps3 owners dont care.

[TheObserver]

Those who throw dirt are bound to lose ground.

[mayberry]

I know 2 360 only people who not only want mag, but are buying ps3's right now. I only have a ps3 and will buy mag in about 3-4 mos. ( trying to get platinum on killzone 2 and demon's souls!) also playing alot of ps1&2 games on my 60g. So I plan on adopting late, and i'm sure others will too. mag will have a great following and new adopters for a long time imho.

[Dev8 ing]

One of the people that joined my clan bought the PS3 for MAG. I know because that is the only game in his trophies and so I asked him about it.

[Jihaad_cpt]

Pretty random considering the content of the article. Oh well

[Sikct9a]

Your loss.

[Commodore]

360 gamers don't want MAG.....Except my roommate (a 360 fanboy) completely blows that theory to pieces because he just went and bought a PS3 today for MAG

Sorry to the writer, but he was dying to get it when he saw me playing it and he's been playing most of the day.

[PimpHandHappy]

While it already goes without saying that the 360 has a dominatingly large library of games, it seems the desire may not quite be there yet for massive multiplayer titles.

yea
thats why game of the year for 360 last year were ALL games that can be played on PS3

MW2
AC2

anyway
XBL with its P2P servers couldn't handle MAG

[Dev8 ing]

Not to mention quantity != quality.

[devilhunterx]

Damage control for serious butthurt

[Commodore]

I posted it in the open zone and I'll post it here.

360 gamers don't want MAG.....Except my roommate (a 360 fanboy) completely blows that theory to pieces because he just went and bought a PS3 today for MAG

Sorry to the writer, but he was dying to get it when he saw me playing it and he's been playing most of the day.

Tonight he jokingly said "It's so beautiful" (referring to the PS3 Slim). He got tired of the only game played on 360....MW2 (Which MAG blows away)

[RockmanII7]

I'd like a demo of MAG to see what I think of it. Right now I don't want MAG because I don't know if I'd like it or not. Same can be said for any new IP.

[Ether]

I don't read articles on this site anymore, its just a 360 fanboy site.

Unlike OXCGN- which, while being a 360-only site, is incredibly impartial in its articles.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

..this means that there is no definitive answer to the article's question(s). This website is obviously pro Microsoft (XBOX 360), so when this article refers to XBOX 360 owners, the author is referring to himself. Lastly everything is built on a theory, which isn't wrong until it's used as fact changing it from a theory to a practice.

Being that it's a new IP, the general reaction will be negative. A perfect example would be Killzone 2 vs. Brink. When Killzone 2 initially came out people complained about the direction of the game, but when people look at Brink with a very similar direction - obviously it will be in a different direction otherwise it would be the same IP - with a cartoon look people gravitate to it. Sony makes it easier for the other developers to create new IPs that follow Sony's lead, be thankful?

In the end, the article does nothing but show the identity of the author in this "console war" that keeps going on.

[N4BmpS]

You Know If they wanted make an article about how great the 360 games are online they didn't have to mention MAG. No I'm not mad nor a fanboy, I'm simply stating facts.

[HINDERIZATION]

because they are afraid that their seXboxes will blow up with so many players on one screen

[mario888]

Check my latest greatest run n gun montage. You will never see anyone play as with such quick twitch skill.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Dev8 ing]

What no auto aim? 360 shooters are for casual gamers that think they're hard core. You're not hard core in my books unless you play without auto aim with reticule off.

[mario888]

DEV 8 ing wrote:
What no auto aim? 360 shooters are for casual gamers that think they're hard core. You're not hard core in my books unless you play without auto aim with reticule off.

_____________________________ ________________
Mario wrote:
You new gen gamers all all noobs. Mag has no auto aim and very little when shooting up. What does a reticle have to do with it? Your statement shows your ignorance about how "No Aunot Auto Aim" works. Did you know they sell retcle stickers on Amazon.com or dumb a$$ES used to draw it right on their screen?

All No auto aim does is require you actully aim with the analog sticks . It doen't matter is you have a rectile on the screen or not the gun will still point the way you aim it. Got the Noob.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Watch my vieo again.. I dare anyone of you to show me another video where anyone plays as fast as me. I've always been like this since P2 and you gameers today all suck..

You are to used to games like:
MW 2 = auto aim
BTBC2 = more auto aim but not as bad as MW2
Killzone 2 = a littel auto aim when shootin from the hip

Halo series = Auto aim but not as bad as the other auto aim game that younew gen gamers seem to love.

MAg = not auto aim at all form the hip. There is a littel when scooped up.

[Oner]

Reminds me of how I played CS with an MP5 & to an extend the M4, good video and I agree with what you are saying but I actually think Dev8ing was agreeing with you as well.

[Hotel_Moscow]

ps3 players wrecked me i used to play mw on xbox live and would wreck everyone while i was on like 5th prestige got ps3 and i got wreked on 1st prestige and just now getting back up to my outrageous kds

[JussBlazn]

Live couldn't handle 256 players

[Chubear]

Please, it can barely handle 5v5 for crying out loud.

[robotnik]

They want MAG, but they can't have it because it is PS3 exclusive. MWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.

[MysticStrummer]

Wow gotta love an opinion piece about a game written by a person who hasn't played it. Reminds me of some of the MAG reviews actually. I like how he assumes that the douche factor on PSN is the same as on XBL. It's not even close. Yes there are morons on PSN, but not nearly as many as on XBL from my experience. MW had the highest douche factor of any PS3 game I've played. Games like Socom and MAG have a low douche factor because they are the type of games that thinking players like. Many of the people who played the new BF:BC2 demo think it feels empty after MAG. That is what MAG brings to the table. It puts you into a war not a minor skirmish, so yes more players is better when it's the beautiful, organized chaos that is MAG. Improvise, Adapt, Overcome ! Valor !!!

[HINDERIZATION]

we always got kicked out of matches and cursed out by 12 year olds.
douchebaggery...
kids these days... *tsk tsk*

[PotNoodle]

This XBOX 360 website spends too much time focusing on other platforms. Fair enough, making references to other games and platforms is fine, but making whole topics and features about them is going a bit far for a site dedicated to one platform.

[bunfighterii]

I don't know anyone who wants MAG....

[ironmonkey]

4 people i know have both console. 4 people i know who bought mag.
sver!!!!

[c4n1f3x]

it just seems like the author of this post is a jealous 12 year old child. what he is effectively saying is. " you have another great game? oh... well we don't want it anyway"

[playnation]

wow hahaha just by writing this article the author discredits him self,
if theres nothing to feel about mag (envy), then why you write an article like this, just showing how bad you actually feel about not owning this kind of game, butthurt?

[ASSASSYN 36o]

As far as I know there are no jets like in fuel of war or attack helicopters which you the player can fly. So I don't want MAG. And at the same time it's not like I would complain if it was on the 360.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Try playing it first.

Then, say that.

You'll regret what you just said.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

What!? Are the things I want in it going to magically appear? Nope. So I don't care to play it.

[sashimi]

because xbl players suck at teamwork?...

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I have around 20 Xbox gamers that would beg to differ.

:)

They ALL want to play MAG!

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Well I have 21 ps3 owners that hated the game so I win.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You gotta stop trollin'.

At least make it believable.

[Nikuma]

What a pointless article.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I've had 3 people trade MAG in already.

1st guy - "The graphics suck."
2nd guy - "Getting Battlefield instead."
3rd guy - "Just didn't like it."

I asked all three of them if they played it for more than 20 minutes.

1st guy - "No. Saw the graphics and turned it off."
2nd guy - "Not really. Should I have?"
3rd guy - "It's too hard. I can't even kill people."

Truth.

1st guy - We called the Walmart next door to see if they had any missing copies of MAG. They had two...one of which was the one this guy traded in. :) He never touched the game.
2nd guy - He trades stuff in all the time after skimming them. He'll trade in Battlefield within days of getting it. I guarantee it.
3rd guy - He didn't play it long enough to get used to it.

MAG is a brilliant experience. You just have to get into it. Without communication, you'll still have a lot of fun...but it's just not the same. It's much better when you have a headset on...and you're either guiding or being guided.

Try it, guys. You won't regret it.

By the way...all three copies sold within minutes of their trade-ins.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

You got issues. And you live next door to wal-mart...LOL!

[andron]

We'll have to see if the 360 ever gets a game that can match the 256 players of MAG. Then we can talk.

It tries it's best to downplay MAG's achievements, to bad there is some questionable info in there...

[Veneno]

MAG is so good that it makes me wonder: Who's going to make the next 256 game and what will be the setting? I hope it's a 3rd person action game to show those in denial that it would work. I think that Zipper/Sony went with FPS military setting because it's the most popular and accessible playstyle. MAG is avant garde, so it will take a very long time for a third party to develop the talent to create ther own massive game.

[ApocalypseShadow]

i've spoken about this to all those who want to hear...

http://www.n4g.com/up/Actio...
even better....
http://www.n4g.com/up/Actio...

if 360 gamers don't want to see gaming advance,then they ned to stop gaming.mag is pushing forward and is the start of things to come.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

See I expect you sony gamers to brag about the 256 players. It makes since too. But to imply it has never been done shows you guys have no concept of game history with regards to FPS MMO's. Planetside a SOE FPS game laughs at MAG's 256 when a game can exceed 1000 players.

And a sequal to planetside is rumored to be in the works.

[iceman06]

I believe that the ideas in MAG (256 player count, command structure, team atmosphere) would be suitable for the 360. Especially saying as though they have this ready made community on LIVE. Most people have a dedicated group of friends and could find at least 4-8 players to help fill a squad. It's a shooter and we know that is part and partial to the 360 demographic. Had this not been exclusive, I don't think we'd be having this discussion. More than likely fanboys would be arguing over which version looks or performs better. I understand how some might say that it is "generic" or "been there done that". However, MAG has a unique personality. It is one of the only online experiences that I have had that literally breeds team play. Others might promote it....MAG is entirely structured around it. Anyway, to each his own.....GAME ON!

[lonix]

Do you think they would write this article if they didn't?

[shysun]

Can you do dedicated servers on 360? I haven't seen any.

[IHateYouFanboys]

You obviously havent done your research, many 360 games do have them. Halo 3 being the biggest and most prominent example. Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 also use them, as do many EA games.

[shysun]

I have l4d1 an 2 on 360 and that game is laggy as hell! I cant believe it was on "DS"! They did a bad job.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Left 4 Dead 2 is not laggy if you choose dedicated server. Their is also another option to run local host or something like that.

[xAlmostPro]

they do -_- but like you stated they do lag ALOT and why? because microsoft deal with and run LIVE servers

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Fuel of War (50 players)
Section 8 (32 players)
Many EA games (Battle Field series)
Left 4 dead series

And if you lag online you need to check your ISP. Blame the game all you want. Makes no sense when everyone else runs just fine.

[John_Dylan]

Fcuk this guy he doesnt speak for half of us. Id play MAG any day if it was multi-plat, tho id prolly get put off when im put into a team full of screaming 14 yr olds. It does occasionally happen when i play Halo too, but i can imagine with a larger pool of players itd have a significantly higher chance of picking up more of them.

This guys totally biased, its douchebags like them that make the rest of us xbox folk look bad.

[kerrak]

You can only hear mates from your own squad + Section Commander and OIC. This is 8/11 people in your channel.

[DigitalEnemy]

It's simple why 360 owners don't want MAG. The 360 does not have enough processing power & xbox live could not handle a 256 player server.

[olos]

to not rrod after i owned it for week.......
maybe microsoft should sort out their own hardware before commenting on what games the other hardware have....

[Spinal]

My question is why would any xbox 360 owner care about MAG? when something like Battlefield bad company 2 is on its way? The very game mechanics and graphics this game brings is simply Magnificent (no pun intended)

MAG can only brag about 256 players. Coming from someone who has been an PC gamer all their life. this is nothing special.

The mechanics and graphics for this game is old gen, why waste your money here? Battlefield all the way.

p.s. while your waiting for BC2 pick up mass effect 2 an bioshock 2 :)

[Nicaragua]

I played Planetside for about a year on the PC which was a similar massive FPS type game and that has nothing on MAG - The reason being that MAG has a solid network and is lag free. After coming from playing the ridiculous glitch fest of MW:2 then MAG is already an astounding achievement considering it has 15 x more players in a game.

Player numbers aside the game is just fun - its easy to get into but has huge strategic depth.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Why? Cuz the game sucks! :/ That was easy.

[JackBNimble]

Have MAG or a game like MAG they would eat it up. FPS with up to 256 players....... come on now who (FPS FANS) wouldn't want to play this? I have no use for MW2 now , it's going as soon as a I get my FATASS off the sofa and shut down my beloved MAG.

Anyway , this artcal is just flame bait , I quit reading after the first paragraph .

Here is my question to my fellow 360 gamers..... wouldn't you want a fps that has more then 12 or so players ?.

VALOR

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Would you want to play a game of basketball with 5 vs 5 or 128 vs 128???
Extra players usually just add to sloppy games and a lot of just running around with zero teamwork. I tried MAG and at one point it was on my radar since I'm a fan of FPS but it fails in so many ways. The game is just garbage.

[JackBNimble]

Are you kidding me or what?
You are going to use a basketball analogy on me vs a FPS?

Basketball is 5v5 right? Why would you add players....... this has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard since 360 FPS gamers wouldn't want to play a full online battle with up to 256 players.

Sh!t if you 360 guys had a game like this and us ps3ers didn't you would be rubbing our faces in it.

Look , no one said you have to like the game , but there is no denying that MAG is inovative ,it pushes the boundaries and it sets new standards for how an online FPS (console) games can be played.

It sounds more like you are trying to do a bit of damage controll here, and I get it, you're a 360 guy. How could the ps3 ever have a good or even better FPS the you?

[Nicaragua]

LOL, just LOL

I totally get it, you love your Xbox and you dont want to admit that MAG might possibly be a decent game, but seriously though that was the most stupid, lame ass, dumb comparison i have ever heard.

Anyway, get real. If there was a 256 player Halo game on massive maps with Banshees and Warthogs whizzing around, Orbital bombardments coming in from The Pillar Of Autumn, reinforcements arriving by ODST drop pods - dude you would be creaming yourself over the sheer scale and epicness of it. Well thats what the PS3 has in MAG (minus the power rangers and space monkeys).

Quit trying to downplay the 256 player element - it works, get over it.

[solidjun5]

He's a mentally special kid. He's about 11 years old. So don't mind whatever dribble that comes out his 'fingers.'

[Godmars290]

Yeah, I don't know why FPS fans would want a game that simulates a firefight as part of an ongoing war instead of single unconnected skirmish. Promotes cooperation between people within a squad, then between squads.

[ViciousBoston]

What I don't understand is why people own an Xbox...You can play the same games on PS3 as you can on Xbox. Exceptions being Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect. Aside those 3, nothing really speaks. PS3 also has a first party lineup that spills over and overflows. I mean...we also have a BluRay players and free online...I'm just saying. To pick a 360 over a PS3 now-a-days is ignorant. Not stupid. Ignorant. Ignorant means people don't know any better.

[zaherdab]

Wait all 360 owners have had a meeting ? and they decided they don't want mag ? and this guy wrote the minutes of meeting ?
wtf !! i own a 360 and they didnt include me :( a**holes !!

[kaaos666]

dominatingly large library of games. most of witch are multi-plat.

[The Iron Sheik]

They pretend they don't want it because it is a PS3 exclusive. You just know that if MAG was a 360 exclusive the bots would be bragging about how XBL is superior because it can handle 256 players lag free.

Bots are mad that Sony stole the FPS crown. Killzone, Resistance & MAG= A superior FPS experience.

[Smokzdaizm]

Let me get this straight All 360 gamers want Sony exclusives, but all Sony fans hate ALL 360 games because they are trash... You gotta love N4G BKA Sony's version of Fox News... I have both consoles, my friends and I bought PS3s for KZ2, after a month we went back to gaming on the 360, we all downoloaded the beta for MAG, didn't like it and didn't buy it. Now does that mean ALL 360 gamers don't want MAG, of course not... same goes for PS3 gamers and 360 games. Not all gamers are gonna want every game. But N4G always makes me laugh... I come to read the responses everyday for sh*ts and giggles and Sony fans generally populate this site with a few exceptions and it always amazes me how on ANY article Sony fans outweight 360 fans 10:1 and yet they complain about the trolling when in any 360 article there more than 2x the sony fans commenting (negatively) about anything 360 than the other way around. I don't understand because we are all gamers and we are witnessing history because in my over 25 years of video gaming this has to be the greatest generation. For me I'll enjoy both my consoles my 360 as my main console for EVERYTHING esp. online gaming/socializing-yes some gamers do AND want socialize (imagine that not all of us are loners or antisocial when it comes to gaming)and my PS3 for blu-ray and exclusives. Just enjoy your consoles geez. Some of you need girlfriends real bad.

[arny]

PC SUCKS

[gameman]

it's simple really they know very well that mag can only be done on the ps3 no chance for the 360 to handle this kind of power

too bad bots wether your in denial or not you know that you want it but you can't have it that's why you say you don't want it.

[Rowsdower]

and I play and enjoy MAG every day on my PS3

[MyWordIsGospel]

Owned MAG since day 1 and I can honestly say hand on heart it is as gripping and compelling as BFBC and blows COD out of the water, 256 players suits the MAP perfectly (although you can play rooms with fewer players) and it is poetry in FPS motion to see and be part of such an epic battle everytime you play.

In my eyes I have never understood the plaudits HALO 2,3 and the god damn awful ODST (quake and UT maps how 1998) receive, all the follow ons have been poor and the reason I dont have a 360 no longer.Gears of war was great in single player but multi was a LAG fest online and not enough players.

Whoever wrote the article must be bothered, because why would you spend your time trying to bash a game if you have no care for it that alone is a contradiction of an article and therefore poor journalism.

MAG FTW, SVER still dominating after a wobbly week we have started to dominate the subtle,sly quiet Raven and the predictable US filled VAlor which being a brit feels good every time we beat them VAlor boys, with our ever so slightly weaker guns.

[Dorwrath]

"Whoever wrote the article must be bothered, because why would you spend your time trying to bash a game if you have no care for it that alone is a contradiction of an article and therefore poor journalism."

I second this. PS3 fanboys do this all the time when there is a highly rated 360 game coming out or the word Halo is mentioned. Poor journalism.

[StarCSR]

Why?
Because in contradiction with the general thoughts of PS3-only-gamers it's not so that all Xbox-only-gamers only want to play shooters...

[kenjix]

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

The only people who the grass isn't greener for is PS3 owners :P

[mcnablejr]

no.. it doesnt require more ''mature players'' its just a mediocore shooter, with unbalanced and broken components. the graphics.. nothing special.

only think 360 players might want is killzone, mgs and uncharted.. otherwise. nothing

[GeoramA]

14-year-olds hate games that make you think once in a while.

[solidworm]

planetrrodbox protests too much.

[Alan Wake]

no one care about FLOP game

Only FLopStation 3 owners cares !

[ps12&3lover]

its funny cause you know someone wants something they cant have when they have to write an article explaing why they dont want it lol.....why is MAG on thier mind...its cause its eating them up inside that sony was able to pull it off...

sony has MAG and microsoft gets LAG...and if MAGS a flop than what is halo wars and odst? along with 90% of other 360 games last year

[divideby0]

purpose of the article....nothing else much to write about my 360 for many many months besides ME2..
the real fact is MAG cant be done on the 360 or Live PERIOD..

[n4gno]

256, or even 64 players ?...if not already done, it's impossible.(like uncharted graphics)

[n4gno]

"While it already goes without saying that the 360 has a dominatingly large library of games,"

lol, ridiculous.

denial power.

[kewlkat007]

You really do not know how many 360 gamers might be interested but at the same time, the 360 foundation was been built on multilayer games and shooters. Yes, XBL gamers play lots of them.

I know people generalize here and there but really the question is, Will anyone be playing MAG 6 months down the line? Or will there be any consistent and real interesting "matches" on PSN down the road.

I can't answer that but I do know Xbox Live gamers will have plenty Online games to play with the nature of the XBL network, there is always something to play.

[RAVEN81]

ps3 fans don't care if you want it or not . i would rather you stayed playing your 360 .

[xAlmostPro]

the short answer would be yes.. why?

1st. i have many friends and family on 360 who wish they had it because they actually like it

2nd. yes they have a large libary of games which contains about 1000 duplicates with different character names lol.. with nothing going anywhere near that scale for them to even think about it, until now

and the reason why they dont is because, not only do microsoft charge the devs extra for more than 2 discs(which is microsofts own fault) they also charge them if they want to make online play containing more than 32 players per match..

[bjornbear]

the game isn't for me for example, i didn't enjoy it - but i'm no 360 gamer, i'm just a normal gamer

i'm sure many 360 gamers (not fanboys) would love MAG if they gave it a shot

this isn't about platform, its about the individual imo

[Mamajuana]

So I guess this guy speaks for everyone who owns a 360? Please, if there was a FPS that supported 256 player battles online you're telling me you wouldn't want it? He actually took the time out to write an article about this, that's lame.

[Dorwrath]

I wouldn't want it and I own both consoles.

From personal experience I have found that huge teams lead to organized chaos. Mindless players running around like headless chickens.

Sure if you got a huge number of friends that play the game and you all go in together then it probably will be a good experience.

Secondly when playing online on the PS3 it seems like a small percentage have mics. Now, you can't have communication if you don't have a mic or plug it in.

Thirdly if this had had a campaign you could play offline etc then I might have well thought about purchasing it.

Fourthly if I hadn't a PS3 this wouldn't have made me go buy a PS3.

[Nicaragua]

There's nothing chaotic about MAG - its not like a 256 player deathmatch, there are clearly defined objectives and the people who dont follow the chain of command will not win or rank up.

[iistuii]

I too have both consoles and had MAG and god rid pretty sharp. It's average and you described what happens perfect. As for the mic issue , that too is accurate, as even on MW2 & K2 PS3 owners don't use their mic's much at all.

[kneon]

I have yet to encounter a match such as you describe. Even domination with 256 players is generally well run. The vast majority of players are trying to play the game and achieve their objectives. The few that run off to do their own thing really have little impact on the game.

[kneon]

What a sad article, it just reeks of someone trying to downplay the game because he can't play it on his 360. He whines about large updates, plural, there was one large update, the other was tiny, 300k if I recal. I especially liked how he complained about technical issues and then goes off to play MW2. What's wrong? Was he looking for a game with more technical issues? :)

I'm about 35 hours into the game so far and only once or twice have I had anyone singing or spouting obscenties during a match. The team work is generally pretty good, even on squads where no one is talking.

If you willing to break out of the Rambo mentality and play as a team, then the game is fantastic. If not, then stick to COD.

[ThePostalDudeX]

At the end of the day, Nobody gives a sh*T

[happy_gilmore]

xbots said it will be a lagfest. sorry, bots, no lag here. it's the service that you are paying for, bots, that is laggy as fcuk.

then, xbots said the graphics are ugly. however, bc2 looks worse and it's capped at 24-players only.

then, xbots said it's generic. umm, it's not. it the only hardcore FPS out there in the console. mag is counterstrike hardcore.

now, xbots are saying mag fails because of your team mates. yeah, it's only week 2. those noobs will soon understand that the only way to gameplay this game is via teamwork. otherwise, they'll keep dying and stop playing mag all together.

[plb]

I've played it on a friends PS3 and it was pretty fun but I'd rather have uncharted 2 on 360 if given a choice lol.

[Convas]

You know, I've resolved to spend less time on this site and more time actually playing games. This site is degrading quickly into a mosh pit of total stupidity and moronism.

The only reason I'm not getting MAG when I get my PS3 is because I'm a completionist. And most Completionists try to avoid Multiplayer Games. MAG is ALL MP. Which means I'll have to slave over the Trophies. No thank you. And yes, I know you're probably saying, "Wow, you're giving up a great game because you don't want to work for the trophies?" Ummm, NO, I play it at my friends house all the time.

Anyways, I find that my mental condition is more stable when I'm actually on my Xbox or at my Friends house, hanging out and actually PLAYING games. But of course, you guys have more fun on here, arguing about things that really don't matter (Exclusives, Graphics [Which game have better], Sales, Consoles having no Games, need I go on?) in the grand scheme of things, jerking off over your console of choice (Which some of you don't even HAVE, COUGH Shadow Gamers COUGH).

GAMERS lead the way. Not Xbots. Not Droids. Gamers.

[Chubear]

... oh please go get a PS3 and STFU already. All that long winded crap to say absolutely nothing. Completionist my ass.

[frostyhat123]

I don't like halo or Killzone 2 both average as you can get.

[Spartan DL]

I don't know what this guy is smoking. I would LOVE a game like MAG on the 360. MAG is a game where teamwork and following orders is how you win, not like Modern Warfare 2 where one person can be the deciding factor. Playing MAG with random people is fun and it works because for some reason, PS3 owners are not complete idiots like those of 360. When Xbox 360 first came out, and on the original Xbox, everyone was pretty laid back. Now everyone is hostile and sensitive.

[borgome]

because it sucks, and there are better games on the box.

[Chubear]

Shadow Run FTW! lol

[MikeTyson]

Ha, I have both 360 and PS3. And to be honest, MAG is nothing special. Good thing I only rented it. I'll stick to my Socom.

[MikeTyson]

And to you 360 owners, talking about MAG saying "Teamwork is key" Well it's not. If you want a good team based game get Socom Confrontation. Or a new game coming out soon BFBC2.

[MikeTyson]

or better yet, get mgo..

[JustV]

I have a PS3...but I don't want MAG for some reason.... I feel like its just another war game.. and def not a Call of Duty experience. It's a game I probably will get bored of. yes there will be over 200 players balblbaa...but you know...I care less....

[illjaden]

MAG's problem is that many people play it the wrong way.

This is not braindead MW2. If you want to run in a circle shooting at anything that moves, feel free to do so. If you buy MAG and hope you can be just as braindead as MW2 players. Good luck.

MAG is about a team, not kill-death ratio. Understand this, sit down, put your headset on and enjoy it as it should be. Like a teambased game.

So many ret@rds playing this game thinking it's MW2 in worse-looking graphics.. I have six words for you: This is MAG, go f@ck yourself.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Why Gamers Don't Want MAG or any other FPS -

Battlefiled Bad Company 2

[Doletskaya]

coz I as a PS3 owner couldn't care less about MAG too

[itswar]

mag dosent appeal to me. i prefer 4vs4 games as there are more compettive and better team work. thats 1 reason y i dident like gears 2 cause it was 5 vs 5.still impressive though 200+ players and no lag,thats cool but still i dont like the look of it, not my style my style is halo.games i would like to play on ps3 uncharted 2 and god of war.

[djfullshred]

I think that real honest unbiased video game players would be glad to see all good games be on their system of choice, so they actually have the option of buying it or passing on it.

It seems disingenuous to me whenever a hyped up exclusive comes out for either system and fanboys start saying, "well that game is crap, so we don't really want it for our platform anyway". But if it was the other way around, then the comments would be coming from the other fanboys for the exact same game.

[RedDragan]

They should be asking for this kind of game to increase the diversity because out of the PS3, 360 and PC the Microsoft console has the least diverse library.

Should such a single console orientated website, one which we all have to admit is popular amongst 360 fans, start asking where these kind of games are then the developers will stop and listen.

By bashing the 256 player model, and hearing only the loud and rowdy fanboys agree for the sake of it, the gamers of the 360 are going to lose out because they want such a game.

What some are calling biasy, damage control etc... I call self destruction.

[The BS Police]

Because that many players in a game is just not fun, in a game with that many players you can't coordinate any form of strategy, you sure can die alot though.

In games like Halo 3 it's always fun to beable to coordinate some offensive or defensive strategy like how and when to grab certain weapons before the other team makes an attempt. You also have the ability to turn the tide of the battle in your favour, in a game with over 200 players you will rarely ever get that chance.

[smokestak]

I own both consoles and enjoy the exclusives for each. They both have a little place in my geeky heart. However, who the f%#$ is this person to speak for all Xbox 360 owners. The console battle (from developers and production perspectives) has always been heated. There will always be one game on a specific console that is unique to the respective console. Halo 3, MAG etc. Fan boys get over yourselves. I literally went out and bought a PS3 after reading all the PRE-release news on MAG. It's a great game and the friends I have on XBLA are a bit green-eyed when I described the battles on MAG while playing RSV2 or MW2. Arguments about which console is better among fanboys and girls is like having an emotional disagreemnt about who has better 99c tacos: Taco Bell or Dell Taco. Who. Fu***ing. Cares. Play your games and shut the hell up. (PIC * Xbox360 & PS3 together in harmony....see they don't bicker, they make sweet love when the lights go down.)

[Dead_Cell]

JOIN A BLOODY CLAN.

If you don't like random team mates who don't work together throw an application up for clans on the MAG forum, get a group of people together and go roll some bases.
This should not be classed as a problem as you personally have the ability to change the problem.

I didn't like random team mates so I started a clan. We're at twenty five strong and ALL use headsets, communicate and watch each others backs at all times. At the queing screen we're discussing what loadouts to take and strategies.
We regularily play a full squad for a few hours a night and have one hell of a time doing it.

[sarshelyam]

...like the fact that wanting a game that is exclusive to a platform you don't own is just a silly waste of ones emotional output. I mean, we're talking about "Xbox 360 Gamers" here...not multi-console households. This has nothing to do with the perceived notion that one platform is in dire need of a social boost over another, that's all perception...perception of superiority from these "Xbox 360 Gamers" that their LIVE service is superior. If that were true, tell me why I spend more hours playing multi-player games on my PS3 while my 360 has been reduced to playing nothing more than Single-Player Exclusives, and Netflix (which I can do on my PS3).

Sorry but this article, even with its few valid points, falls flat in the long run. There really is no denying what MAG is bringing to the table. It's an incredibly deep Massively Multiplayer Tactical Shooter with a rich reward and skill system in place designed to pull Modern Warfare fans into something a bit more cerebral and rewarding. Ignore that and you're left with a 256-player shooter...that's a hell of a statement that no 360 game can claim.

[cliffbo]

bless their little cotton socks.

[Tito08]

The more popular that game becomes!!!! It's not like 360 gamers are offered to play the game on their system if its owned by Sony, meaning that it's not going anywhere besides the PS3, nonsense article!!!

[Figboy]

for having a strong interest in online MP games NOT want to play MAG, or at least have a passing interest in it?

so, suddenly, because the MP game is on the PS3, MP fanboys aren't curious about a 256 player MP, military FPS?

i'm sorry, but i call shenanigans.

true MP fans would at the least think MAG was intriguing. afterall, there hasn't EVER been a console FPS that hosted 256 player battles.

it has all the bells and whistles that console FPS/MP fans have come to love over the years (ie, XP, Perks/Upgrades, "classes," team work).

i can only base my opinion of MAG off of what i played in the Beta, and off of impressions from some of my close friends who have the game.

and having played quality MP games like Killzone 2, and Resistance 2, i don't see MAG being any worse that those. in fact, i find it a lot more addicting, and i don't even LIKE MP FPS games that much.

i don't think this guy can speak for ALL Xbox fans. just himself. and if he didn't care about not having MAG on the Xbox 360, he wouldn't have devoted a whole article to it.

there are certainly a lot of MP games for 360 owners to play, but not a single one of them are like MAG. they are definitely quality MP games, of course, but they don't offer the scale of MAG. that's a simple fact: there is NO FPS MP game on the 360 that hosts 256 players. if there is, please correct me.

i'm pretty sure there are some 360 fans that would give it a try if it was available on the 360.

that's as foolish as writing an article saying that the Playstation gamers don't want Mass Effect on the PS3. um, it's an RPG, with strong characters and worlds. EXACTLY the type of game that appeals to a lot of the Playstation audience. of COURSE some of them want ME on the PS3 (they may not be too happy with the way the sequel scrubbed out many of the RPG elements of the first one, but overall, it's a really good game; although i feel the story was kind of filler for part 3. not bad, just focusing on, what i feel to be a minor plot-line in the grand scheme of things).

[MeatAbstract]

What a riduculous article from planetxbox360. Tell me, since you;re a website dedicated to to the 360, why then would you talk about a PS3 exclusive? You've wrote this article stating why 360 players don't want MAG on THEIR console. Why would you do this? Whats the point? Why not make a video of your filming yourself waving game after game of 360 games at the camera singing "Na-nah-NAH-NAH!". You wouldn't, would you? Because its pointless. So surely you see that an article like this is equally stupid and unnessacary. Good day.

[Panzerkanzler]

My GOD! The article is horrible, ignorant and utter rubbish! I've played MAG about 13 hours and I've never come across idiots who sings or just generally hog the mic and ruins everything. When I still had my 360 this was more common though. The reason the article writer thinks the 360 crowd doesn't want/need MAG is because, bo-hoo, they can't have it. That's the same reason ps3 fanboys don't want ME...they actually do, but since they can't have it they just pretend they do't even want to have it so they don't seem weak or whatever other retarded reason. I bet lots of 360 players would like to try MAG, because I know I'd love to play both the ME games and GoW on my ps3. It's too bad more people can't be honest about exclusives and admit the "other" console offers some good $hit!

[gamingisnotacrime]

it aint gonna happen!!!

MAG is awesome, if it were on 360 it would still be awesome. Love the game not the console (althought i do like myu PS3 a LOT lol)

[prettyboy1]

realy i mean REALY!
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAT.HE ISNT PRESSED TO HAVE MAG RIGHT.SO WHY THE NEED TO WRITE AN EXTREMLY FANBOYISH ARTICAL STATING WHY IN THE FIRST PLACE?SOMEBODY NEEDS A HUG LOL

[teto83]

i have a pretty good idea.....cause it ****ing sucks.I LOVE MY PS3, but MAG is a black eye on all gamers.

[jalen247]

If MAG was on the 360, I can see 360 owners all over the game because 360 owners use mics and love their shooters.

MAG is a revolutionary game on consoles, therefore it should garner a level of respect from all gamers.

Zipper took on a very difficult undertaking in creating the game so everything won't be 100% polished day 1. They will continue to improve things as time goes on.

I enjoyed the demo. I haven't purchased MAG yet because I am more of a single player gamer. Multiplayer is a added bonus for me and not an integral component. I rarely buy online only games. However, I did purchase Warhawk and Unreal Tournament III. I will eventually purchase MAG.

[gamingisnotacrime]

but i hated the beta, and im not into MP online gaming... until now
MAG is so awesome, is consuming 85% of my gaming time and i am loving it

[Denethor_II]

am I losing my hair, or is it natural to have a hair line next to my crown?

Edit: this is not a joke I need advice as I can't go outside without a hat.

[Dead_Cell]

You could cut glass with that hairline.

[Am_I_Bald]

I think your hair line that has so unforgivingly and mercilessly receded so far back is beautiful!!!

[Kakihara]

Another reason they don't want it. If you take out the Blu ray and lick the back of it it actually tastes like sour grapes. It sounds weird but it's true. Who'd want a game like that?

[tiamat5]

Xbox 360 owners never want anything on the PS3. That is until the game go multiplat.Then they want it and come in here pointing,laughing and boasting how the PS3 is losing all its exclusives.They did it with Metal Gear Solid, FF and Devil May Cry.And like clockwork they will do it again for every exclusive we lise. Jealousy is an ugly thing people.

[Denethor_II]

Yes that is me, and my set of full bodied locks. My family all went bald, but not me. I guess I'm just lucky.

[prettyboy1]

ITS IGHT DUDE IT HAPPENS.AS LONG AS U LOVE U FOR U DUDE

[Dance]

Wasn't exactly blown away by the Beta

[ATi_Elite]

nice fanboy article. I got suckered into thinking I was going to read some useful information.

MAG's technical achievement is great for console gaming. I can careless about MAG and whether gamers like it or not but to write hate stories about Mag versus congratulating the achievement it has accomplished is just flat out being a HATER.

MAG 256 players on one map at one time NO other FPS can do this.

[Treyb3yond]

Nobody cares.

[divideby0]

replace WHY with CANT...

regardless if they want it or not..

[Rowsdower]

i own both consoles and while I love MAG and its great to see the support its getting in this thread has anyone checked out how many ps3 owners have actually purchased the game. The number is small, shockingly small. So while I enjoy the game and am glad to see that others are enjoying it I would rather see ps3 owners actually buying it. also the argument about ps3 owners have wide tastes may be valid in many cases but having only 320,000 ( http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... sold worldwide is disappointing, especially when the life of this game is linked to the size of its population.

so for all you ps3 owners defending this game but dont actually own it pony up or shut up, because the current size of the games population may not be enough to sustain it or inspire zipper and others to try something so daring.

thats my opinion, thanks

[iceman2885]

You are missing out. I wasn't that excited for MAG and didn't even think I was gonna pick it up. But I had finished all the games I own and looking for something to play so I decided to pick it up.

And let me tell you, it is freaking awesome. I love the game and have sat down and played for like 4-6 hours straight before realizing it's 3 in the morning and I have work the next day.

To simply dismiss a game because it's not on your console and it has a bunch of players is ridiculous.

And to all the people that think it's chaos with 256 domination maps, it really isn't. You and your squad and another squad beside you are usually taking on 2 opposing squads positioned near you, so it's essentially 16 vs 16 which isn't that huge. Sure you can run off and join the fight at other places but it would be pointless because it would hurt your squad and if you die you respawn all the way back at one of the two spawn points your platoon is assigned. The only time it can get hectic is when it comes to taking the objectives, but even then your squad and another squad usually focus on one objective (but it's a good tactic to overload several squads onto a single objective to take it if you aren't getting results).

People need to try this game before they bash it, it's really different from any other FPS online I've ever played in a very good way. I don't even want to go back to MW2 after this.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Because I've been playing MAG so much I close my eyes and see cross-hairs.

I'm not a multi-player guy, but I'm getting addicted to MAG. I never felt this frantic. Behind enemy lines and bullets are flying around you from eight different directions. It doesn't feel huge all the time though.

Get it.

[raztad]

Bro I'm in the same boat than you. Mostly a SP guy here. Played some KZ2 online and R2/UC2 coop. I started playing MAG back in december when the last closed beta. My first impresion was: "this game is meh" played two or three matches and that's it. In a second try I started to get grips of the game and I was hooked since then. The full retail game got me thinking about strategies, air strikes, bunkers, teamwork, mortars, etc. MAG is destroying my life.

[Ariellog]

Is more idiots like this one to stop posting articles like this and making anyone who owns a 360 look like mindless idiots

Just admit it MAG is a good exclusive and PS3 is finally picking up speed ,which is only good for xbox owners because Microsoft got to put on it pants and work harder to make Xbox better.

PS and i do own both system :)

[Justin_bristoe]

but they are not gonna sit here and say it...because they would be trampled without mercy

[Ravenger]

Not even going to read pass the summery, because I already know why some 360 gamers don't want it, because they cant have, its PS3 exclusive.

[Matthewxrb1992]

At least Ps3 owners one way or another get Xbox exclusives ;)

A good example is Gta 4 Dlcs and The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
...Next up Mass Effect 2 and Splinter Cell : Conviction

You[Xbox owners] dont get Ps3 exclusives : Uncharted
Heavy Rain
Heavenly Sword
God Of War
...

[horndog]

and MAG is far from it. Good enough for sony fans though.

GUY ABOVE ME^^^^^^

You got ask yourself if bots really give a sh1t about those games as much as ps3 fans look forward to getting xbox ports. Answer is probably not. I have a ps3 and even i couldn't care less about those titles.

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

only the ps3 panty boys would accept MAG. The game sucks ass big time they are in denial even the ps3 fanboys fearless leader EL PRESADOR say so.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...