PS3: Sony reveals plans to win Christmas battle

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) has hit back at criticism that its PlayStation 3 (PS3) console is suffering from sliding sales and revealed it is harbouring treats for gamers up its corporate sleeve to conqure the all-important Christmas market.

[DirtyRat]

no word of a price drop then...

[closedxxx]

With more and more killer Xbox360 and Wii deals be found on the web and at retailers, the PS3 remains extremely expensive compared to its competition.
Games will help, but with the majority of them also coming to the XBOX360, and looking and playing just as well on the Xbox360, people are not feeling compelled to drop an extra $100-$200 on a PS3.
SONY will need a lower priced PS3, and a few exclusive killer apps to really see a healthy increase in console sales.
Right now, with GTA and a few other previous SONY exclusives hitting the Xbox360 (not to mention Xbox360s exclusive episodic content) the XBOX360 is in perfect position to pickup some consumers that were loyal to the old SONY exclusives, but are looking to save some money

[reaperxciv]

to see is to believe, (no price drop) + (no AAA games)= kaput...

[San anto]

i dont need to see to believe that you = Tw@!

[Zidandy]

Well put. I couldn't have said it better myself. @ Reaper man. I covered my childs eyes as he read through the comments so he could not see your ugly face, as it would traumatize him possibly for life. :(

[reaperxciv]

@Zizandy - 2 B4DD u don't think that a price drop and AAA game titles will benefit all of us, you R just a Sony Fanboy, you're still lucky i'm not beside you coz if i was, i'd murder the crap out of you

[kingofps3]

"Titles due to hit the shelves in the Christmas run-up include the latest installment of favourites such as Grand Theft Auto, Metal Gear Solid, Ratchet and Clank, Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter", Jonathan Fargher added.

This mean MGS4 will definitely hit this holiday season. No delay then? Thats good.

Edit:
Also, the ones those who truly benefit from the console and format wars are the mighty retailers.

@DARK KNIGHT, super bill, SF49er408
You guys are hilarious.

[predator]

errr gta and crash are on the 360 to mate and mgs4 is delayed till 2008

[Kaneda]

"errr gta and crash are on the 360 to mate and mgs4 is delayed till 2008"

Konami said they are still aiming to release mgs 4 2007...but FF is delayed til Mar 2008...

[gaffyh]

@predator - the article confirms MGS for Christmas release on PS3.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

if they sell 4-7 million world wide without a price drop..then they are in good waters...which is very possible with games like uncharted, GTA,Haze ,and a little lair, heavenly sword, and the list goes on

[IRISHCALIBER]

Because under your logic and Sony's, the PS3 is supposed to stagnate for a couple of years during it's premature release to slowly build a Fan base to eventually catch up to it's self by 2010.

In the mean time you get a handful of games and a new movie format to play with for your early adoption, investment, Beta test.

So, while all the AAA title go to The 360, secretly 1st party and certain 3rd are working round the clock to create games that require 25 gigs of compressed space. Wow, now that would be a huge game.

A current XBOX 360 game uncompressed could fill a 25 gig disc. So when They manage to fit that much information into a game, won't that seriously effect the load times on a 1x Blu-ray drive?

So, Sony released their PS3 in 2006 in order to be the most popular gaming console by 2010?

Guess they are in it for the long run, In 2010 I'll probably be planning to buy the upcoming XBOX 3HD supporting 1.5 Tera of space boasting a 2.4T-HOLO-chip, world wireless internet, streaming game play to any screen, surface technology, and Digital distribution of the hottest games + much, much more.

I prefer my console to be on a 5 to 6 year updated rotation with backwards compatibility of course.

Relevant and active today and of course out dated after 5 or 6 years of surpassed technology.

Today is not the time to invest in tomorrow's tech, as technology grows exponentially. Ask the leading companies in the Industry, look how often a new IPOD comes out or the newest Laptop. Hell DVD only lasted 10 years before HD started telling it to move over and make shelf space.

[artman]

everyone is a beta tester, but microsoft put us on alpha tester u c...
just imagine the worst, when ps3 failed... we will have bluray player / multimedia center (which in long run ps3 will have more software and will have price drop, and most of people who has ps2 will move to ps3 after the price drop (not sure when)

when 360 failed, well it will do nothing... it just become a piece of junk. except when you missed you GeOW or any other fav games. And it will be still enjoyable if that time ur 360 is still running well and red ring free. And guess what, my xbox (one) just got red light yesterday... and it's useless... I've been using it to watch divx movies, since... 3 years ago. My 360 already got red ring since a month I bought. so I would like to let you know that I am an alpha tester of microsoft.

so what do you think about the concept of investment? it should be on the long run... not just 4-5 years period, if you think it's the console games should be, then you better move to pc games... but remember, that PC is always use the same OS and basic hardware. When console start doing something like that... imagine how bad condition for the game developers. I believe you are smart enough to understand this concept.

if microsoft win this game, then you'll understand what kind of console we have in the future. just another pc for games... where you are wondering to upgrades every 2 month.... oh i need new graphic card, oh need more rams, oohhh.. I need new processor... oh I need new PC... oh craps... I just buy PS3

get real IRISH, open your mind and heart, you will find the truth, see the true evil~

oh btw,
my friend just bought NVIDIA 8800, and he was satisfied for all the games he had can be played in maximum setting, but after he saw crysis video, he thought ... "oh I'm not sure if my system can run that game smoothly... I think I need to change to ultimate version..." where he bought that graphic card is the same price as ps3... now anybody tell me that ps3 is expensive?
for me ps3 is very cheap, I spend mostly $1000 for mobile phones... consider the tech and usability... ps3 is much more cheaper than those stupid mobilephone, that you change every 4 month

[super bill]

sony.you haven,t got a chance.so get used to it.

[Zaskark2]

http://www.destructoid.com/...

[harpua]

nice vid, welcome to 4 months ago.

[VaeVictus]

Zoran by 'praised'...tool. Such a loser.

[Vojkan]

LOl Jak & Daxter? Naughty Dog is working on Uncharted, we wont be seeing next Jak until end of 2008. That is confirmed fact by Naughty Dog. I think this guy just owned himself.

[SF49er408]

lol aint gonna happen, moms i think will save themselves some money and just get a wii or 360 with a few games instead of spend 600 and get them casino royale in blue ray***

*** haha i get 9 disagrees but its the truth, everyones gonna buy a 360 not a ps3. 360 has like 10 AAA titles comin out that will please everyone. and its cheaper. people arent rich

[Zidandy]

It wouldn't suprise me if the dog in your own picture despises you as much as I do. May a swift death befall you.

[Odion]

A lot of that sounds really fishy.

How is Naught Dog doing Jak and Uncharted? They've never made more then 1 game at a time and Uncharted is a huge title.

Also Crash isn't owned by Sony anymore and the most recent title was on pretty much everything.

Also didn't they already said MSG4 was delayed to 2008 or was i incorret in what I heard?

[LeShin]

Personally, I'm not really worried. The PS2 had the same problems when it came out: was hard to develop for, lack of games even some people having concerns about the price........now look at it.
That doesn't mean Sony should rest on their laurels, they just need to do exactly if not more of what they did to make the PS2 the success it was/is.
I'm looking forward to the new game line-up.

As for the games that he mentioned, I've got a funny feeling he was talking about the PSN network as I heard a rumor that Naughty Dog are working on a Jak & Daxter game made specifically for the PSN, and as for Metal Gear Solid, that might mean that the original PSone Metal Gears gonna be availiable for download......
.....of course, I could be wrong.....:)

[MannyHarlem141]

Forget Crash!! we're loving Jak and Daxter and Ratchet & clank way more than that bandicoot nowadays, he gets no love from anyone anymore.. that orange dude is way past his prime, he wishes he had Mario's permanence, or even Sonic's for that matter

[DrunKao]

The PS2 didn't really have the same problems as the PS3, and even implying such is a gross simplification of the situation, as you would have to basically dismiss the biggest obstacles facing the PS3 right now.

The PS2 was never $200 more expensive than it's nearest competitor. The PS2 didn't launched with any real competition to be honest (Dreamcast, lol). The PS2 didn't have competition like the 360, that' an established console leading it by millions of units sold. The PS2 didn't have competition like the Wii, that's actually tracking much faster than the PS2 and outselling it by hundred of thousands of consoles worldwide each month.

If the PS2 had competition as strong as the PS3 has right now, it wouldn't have had such a high percentage of market share, and it definitely would have never sold over 100 million consoles.

I don't understand how people can just say that the PS2 and the PS3 are in the same situation, while ignoring the most important facts of the matter. Both consoles have the Playstation name, they both are hard to develop for, and they both had a lack of games after launch, but that's where the similarities end.

[sadiq]

crash started sucking when naughty dog sold the rights to vivendi universal, they only one i thought was fun after that was crash twinsanity and thats bcuz travelers tales oxford did it

[San anto]

The delay of MGS4 was never announced, to this day on Hideo Kojima's website the date for release is coming 2007

[akaFullMetal]

really need a really good line up of games, and possibly a hundred dollar drop in price, i mean the line up does look really good, but man to bad msg4 isnt coming out this year, i think that would really put a damper in the 360 and wii sales. I hope that halo 3 works for 360, it is very hyped up right now

[MannyHarlem141]

Halo's as sure a thing as any.. even if it fails to impress graphically, the multiplayer will own

[Naruto]

didn't sony said the ps3 will have a price drop in december

[super bill]

yeah bye about 600 dollars price drop.that,s what the ps3 is worth nothing.

[San anto]

wdf was that F(_)ckface of a comment, sounded like the words from a 4 year old, Dirf.

[Shadow Flare]

it's a great idea to fill up the Summer void with PSN titles.

Besides, if there will be a price drop, they won't say anything about it now because then everyone will wait for the price drop and sales will decrease. But if there is no price drop, then sony must be confident their games are good enough to sell the system. And when you look at the amount, range and quality of games sony is pushing out near christmas, then you can see that ps3 owners are gonna have some ultimate smile on their face. Hear's hoping your 360's last til christmas

[Raptors]

I'm ITCHING to buy a ps3 but I simply cannot justify the price right now. Hopefully when Christmas rolls around there will be one around for me to buy. If not, Halo 3, GTA 4, Bioshock and Assassins creed will tie me over nicely on 360....

[ps360s]

if you really want a PS3...get that, don't change ur decision bcuz of the pricE! ps3 will have the games and the excitements by the time you get your ps3 so like stick with what u want :)

[TaylorB]

There are alot of inaccuracies in this news article. Some of it is technical some of it is not. CRN has a pretty hard hitting headline and I'm very disappointed with the quality of the article because of it.

[Boink]

gamers want GAMES!

[boi]

true and thats what gamers be getting

[Monchichi025]

How is this hitting back? All they are doing is talking balony again. They say they are on par with the PS2??? The PS2's numbers are only low because they were sold out till April of the 2nd year!!! The PS3 has had strong supply since the beginning but NO demand. 71K a month and slipping is not a sign they are hitting back. This is a desperate attempt to put on a smile when all seems lost!
And funny how they say that we shouldn’t compare it to the Wiii. Why because when we do it shows had badly the PS3 is getting it’s butt kicked!!!! It’s not Nintendo’s fault you screwed up and tried to force a Blu-Ray player on everyone. Nintendo actually listened to their audience and made a product people want.

[boi]

of course Sony themselfs listen to their audience too thats y they making more games and updatin their FW every so often !! anyways plus Blu-Ray isn't a bad idea if they were thinkn of making the console future proof...and SOny havnt lost only a very poor start but starting to pick up!

[MannyHarlem141]

the wii is the poorest excuse for a video game console since the gamecube

[AngryTypingGuy]

I thought the GameCube was a great system. If I never bought a GC, I would've never had the chance to play one of my favorite games ever, Resident Evil 4. I was so happy to see the RE5 is coming to the 360.

[felidae]

i love me some ps3 gaming ;-)

[IBLEEDBLU]

if you think PS3 wont win the holiday season this year.

PS3 will have the best look games out there - and i mean BEST!

alot of people have had a year to save for their PS3 and mostly be buying a HDTV -

that first comment guy is retarded - if your waiting for a price drop then ur gonna be waiting a while...PS3 really has no AAA titles - y would they drop the price - sony knows when the AAA titles come ppl will start 2 buy

anyways im excited for christmas time !

[boi]

well they ain't dumb just narrow minded i guess...but like i say it once more ps3 won't die out and it will be a better system then today...ps3 will get better as time goes by :)

360 is good too not sayin only the ps3

[time2die]

What was the point in releasing the console if we have to wait 12 months just to get a few games...Try giving us something now instead of the normal crap of what we going to get in the future.

[Raptors]

Im a 360 owner but ill defend the ps3 here (I've never understood why ppl on this site can't enjoy both systems for what they offer). I dont ever recall a launch system with alot of good games in the first year. Alot of ppl are bashing the ps3 when the 360 didn't have a lot of games, neither did the wii (and they still don't), and not to mention most other past systems (Dreamcast, ps2, xbox etc). Its the playstation, the games will be coming, no one can deny that. If you can afford both the 360 and ps3, my advice is to get both, enjoy the best of both worlds. If not, buy what offers you the most for your dollar.

[boi]

okay this is just my thinknig dont hav to agree or wateva but dont have to flame about it...

anyways i think that Sony didn't bring out their AAA titles is because they need the time to get them near perfect then bring them out so people won't be *Sony said this graphics was ingame graphics(killzone2) but didnt turn out good enough or it plays like crap* and we all know Sony's ps3 need the time to fully or near fully optimize the hardware and proberly toke this long to bring out any AAA or wteva is because of getting it what people was expecting from Sony...

[CrazzyMan]

well, time will show, less then 3 week till E3 left, i think at that time there will be some announces.. :)

p.s. anyone to help return my 3rd bubble back? thnx. =)
lost fot this post - http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[iceice123]

MGS-6.million-mind you the PS1 has been out for how many years now....
MGS2-million, a nice improvement, sold more in a shorter time.
MGS3-3.million, interesting, they slipped 3.million. And sold twice as few as the first MGS. What a hell of a drop off, how could you expect MGS4 to push PS3 when MGS3 took such a nose dive in sales?

[CrazzyMan]

while MGS3 didn`t look so amazing, because standarts of visuals become higher.
Now MGS4 again will amaze with visuals, in sales that`s mean MGS fan base + news guys which will be stunned with amazing visuals, just like geow effect.
I mean, geow = kill switch + better graphics -> 4 mln. and without a fan base. =)
MGS4 definately will make 5 mln. :)

[shortyNZ]

begging for bubbles is sad, your an @sshole and dont deserve any

[toughNAME]

lol there not winning anything this holiday season

when it comes to games in the second half of 2007....360 wins hands down

2008 im sure will be a different story tho

[MK_Red]

They list Jak & Daxter and Crash!? There is not word on J&D since Naughty Dog is busy with Uncharted and Crash is coming to all known platfrom EXCEPT PS3. I'm sure those exclusvies like Uncharted and Heavenly Sword and Ratchet & Clank will be mind blowing but GTA and Crash are not exclusive while there is not word of new Jak.

[THAMMER1]

1st- Get some games out that people know about and want. Uncharted and R & C.

2nd- Not alow those games get over shadowed by Halo 3 Mass effect Bioshock and Mario Galaxy and Super Smashbrother Wii.

3rd- Push blu ray harder to completely justify the price of the PS3. But before Sony can do that average people need to want a Blu Ray player and have an HD Tv to enjoy it.

4th- They better not screw up E3. If they mess up E3 they are toast.

I think they have a slim chance that they can pull all of that off. If they do it will be one for the high light reels for sure. I would not bet on it though.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

By releasing the PS4 without Blu-Ray.

Could this be the same kind of prediction Sony made when they said that the PS3 would sell 2 million at launch?

Or when they said $600 won't matter to the consumer?

[sak500]

You forgot that first 5 million will be sold without games. As someone mentioned it on another thread, they are trying to prove themselves right.

[BIadestarX]

Here is what has to happen so Sony can win the console war this holiday:

1) Sony drops the price of the PS3 by $300-$400 in order to compete with Nintendo and Microsoft.

2) Release more AAA 1st party titles than Microsoft or Nintendo that apeal to mass market and are not M rated.

3) Purchase exclusive rights for 3rd party games being developed for both consoles (XBox 360 & PS3) such as GTA.

4) Microsoft and Nintendo delay all their AAA titles for this holiday season and games like Halo 3, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon are pushed to season 2008.

5) Microsoft goes backrup and have to close down the entertainment division because they can't aford the office space.

6) Nintendo gets shut down by the governments for distrubuting porno for minors throught the online service.

7) HDTV 60' 1080P drop their price to $399.

I don't see how all this wouldn't happen!

Go Go Sony Go!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

5) Microsoft goes backrup and have to close down the entertainment division because they can't aford the office space.

6) Nintendo gets shut down by the governments for distrubuting porno for minors throught the online service. FUNNY AS HELL

To Sony fans, If Sony were to drop the price to $300-$400, what do you think Microsoft and Nentindo would do?

[GeneYus]

Why on earth would they even consider such a price drop when top tech people have pulled the system apart and stated that the technology contained is worth close to $800. You have no common sense whatsoever, why would you even ask a question that stupid? So they're going to sell the system at a 5-600 dollar loss in order to boost the customer base to sell games? Even with that price drop there still isnt a vast enough supply of games to get people excited in the system, all sales would be reactionary and temporary until the freaking games come out. You're one of those "I need instant gratification to justify anything!" types arent you? The PS3 is developed to last several years, this is part of their marketing strategy, to just pull panic moves like massive price drops just to sell more units is completely moronic. Espcially when the general consensus in the industry is that its Price and LACK OF SOFTWARE that are resulting in slower sales. They're working on boosting software that looks BETTER than the competition which will in turn generate more sales. This in tandem with Blu Ray dominating the HD Format war will garner more support and yes you guessed it (or do I give you too much credit) MORE SALES. If that doesnt work, THEN they will consider price drops. You're thinking is shallow to say the least. What would you do if they dropped it $300-$400?? Oh, I know, you still wouldnt buy it and continue with your hate mongering.

[power of Green]

It should have won last Xmas is the PS3 the only console coming out with Heavy hitters this Xmas?. lol

[sadiq]

OMG YOU GUYS ARENT THINKING, IF THEY SAID THEY ARENT GOING TO DO A PRICE DROP THEN THEY ARE SAYING THAT ARE GOING TO DO ONE, IF THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PRICE DROP, THEY ARE JUST SAYING 'DONT BUY THE SYSTEM NOW, BUT IT WHEN IT IS CHEAPER SO WE WILL LOSE MONEY'

btw i dont see wat they are doing bad... they seem perfectly fine...

[TheMART]

Uh...

Didn't they also say they would crush the competition last Christmas?

Didn't they also say that they would have sold 6 million consoles at the end of March?

Didn't they also promissed 2 HDMI ports on every PS3?

Didn't they also promissed a Gigabit Ethernet port?

Didn't they also promissed 1080p @ 120fps in 4D for EVERY game?

Wasn't Motorstorm supposed to be 1080p for sure and then downgraded to 720p

Wasn't PSN going to crush XBL from its launch?

Ah well we can go on. But it seems, the PS3 isn't even going to sell 6 million consoles before the end of the year.

3.4 million sold now. WOrld wide sales for the PS3 are 200k a month.

200.000 units. SUmmer sales are known to be slow. Only November/December are high sales. Thus, 4 months about 200k at highest (if they don't slide further) makes 800k.

3.4 mln+800k= 4.2 mln. PS3's at the end of october. Some Christmas sales... but 1.8 million? The 360 sold 2 million last Christmas but if it's price is lowered core 199, Premium 299 and Elite 379, no one will buy a PS3, not for 600 EUro/dollar, not even for 500 Euro/Dollar.

Sorry Sony. You're doomed.

[VaeVictus]

EDIT for "the mart"

Sorry Sony. My 360 redlighted...I'm doomed.

Stop being a fanboy tool.

[Vip3r]

You must love it being so far up M$'s arse that the lump in their throat is your nose.

[felidae]

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[Zidandy]

I'll laugh when the 3 red rings take down your 360.

[darkvenom]

every little micro fanboy (including you Marty a.k.a. Mrs. Gates)are going to dissapear from this site once the PS3 climbs back to King of the hill.unless you want to stick around for the i told you so.just remember i'll be looking for you once it happens.

[sjappie]

All sony fans can say to counter Mart's words is;" Haha, red rings of death, haha". Why don't you guys say something to counter the facts? Cause you can't, that's why. Sony, good luck this christmas, you gonna need it.

[Xi]

do they assume that microsoft and nintendo don't plan to release and good titles either.

Microsoft - halo 3, gta, bioshock, blue dragon, mass effect, and lost odyssey.
Nintendo - metroid prime 3, mario galaxy, ssmb

all 3 have great titles to release for this x-mas but do they truely believe their line up is best?

[PS360PCROCKS]

first off thanks to this guy for not putting his foot in his mouth unlike some other representatives...secondly the PS3 will sell, it's a given but it won't be a mass appeal until it's at a Mass appealing price, sorry Sony, but hey I bought one already! :)

[Sevir04]

i just purchased FolksSoul yeterday in japan. i went to 3 cityies before finding it. already that RPG is a Killer app in Japn. it even sold better than Ninja gaiden. when that RPG hits the states we'll be happy as hell. it looks amazing true price drop of atleast 150 ought to do the trick. and by then even 450 US is enough for a mass market price. it's nessessary for that. Howard Stinger Said that they'll have an answer about a price drop by christmas , so those wanting to get one will have one by christmas and will benefit. Christmas is going to be big

[Cartesian3D]

MS and Nintendo have plans too ..

:P .. E3 will be exploded by some NEW titles.. and Im sure SONY will have the most compare to others.. because they NEED it to sell 11 million ps3 in 2007..

cant wait to see Killzone and NEW titles..& (Resistance 2,Gears 2,Dead rising 2, motorstorm 2 ...etc )

[Xi]

microsoft has a bunch of titles in the making and coming up. But I don't think we'll see much of what microsoft has to come until they do their X07 or whatever it is. Microsoft will have a bland show and I think Sony will to with most of their titles being an updated gamers day. Killzone 2 vs halo 3 will likely be the outcome.

[FirstknighT]

I thought Sony was supposed to be winning the battle at launch??? HAHA, all sony does is talk, all talk.

[Zidandy]

You're a true hippocrite.

[funkysolo]

All sony has to do is have a playable Killzone 2 at E3, and that would shut up all this talk. Xbots could not say anything or bring up any game. One game shown in playable form can change all the BS talk. If the game turns to look and play as the trailer it will overshadow anything else on any other system. That will be the talk in all forums and all news media. But again it has to be playable and and has to look as good as the trailer. If you disagree, then you're blinded my friend. Graphics and physics will win this console generation, then why did 25 percent of americans have a HDTV now and out selling stanard tvs.

[Xi]

All MS needs to do is show halo 3.

[etownone]

if KZ1 sucked a**, what makes you think 2 is gonna be so great that it will save sony??

and yeah, graphics are important, but if they were the most important, then how come Xbox 1 didn't destroy PS1?? Fact, better hardware, and much better graphics as proven with every multi-platform game?

but its funny, PS3 supposed to be so great yet 360 still looks better in every multi-platform compared to PS3, with exception to oblivion, but they said 360 is getting a patch to upgrade textures to look like PS3.

[MetalProxy]

Oblivion? thanks for bringing that to my attention, where is this supposed up grade? Its all myth! Your NOT getting the upgrade fella's.

[Bits-N-Kibbles]

Sony plans on realeasing more violent video games so kids will worship Santa when they come and forget about Jesus...

Sony & Santa WIN!

[Close_Second]

...as all the consoles will have new content (i.e. games, downloads, etc) over the Xmas period. Ok, the titles Sony list are all great franchises but if Sony wants to ensure it wins this xmas it must significantly reduce the price of the PS3.

[Boink]

it's going to be an excellent xmas for gamers. I hope sony tries much harder then they have so far, why? cause it will make MS try harder.

[Eternal E 808]

this was the last big lie and i doubt even if all thoughs games were releasing they still wouldnt have a chance against halo3 alone but i already know that most of them games that they mentioned are not coming out this year fact also why is liying there best move like always no price drop and a buch of lies sorry ps3 fanboys but that was the last call and fall.

[funkysolo]

What's your point. Halo beta didn't impress in graphics, oh yeah a beta right keep telling yourself that 4 months before release on a game that took 3 years to create. xbox one was more powerful but non of there first party games looked as good as GOD OF WAR. I had both systems then too but PS2 shine on the games and graphics on xbox1 was not even noticible compare to the graphics on PS3 first party games to the 360 first party games. Your supporting your story with multiplatform games, I supporting my story with first party games and the fact that I own both system and you don't. People that have 360 beleave that xbox live is great and way better than PSN, but people that have both will tell that multiplayer on PSN is alot better than xbox live. Why is there no clan support for a first party game Gears of War. You can't play rank games with your friends. Resistance has clan support, you can play rank games with your friends and clan. PSN does not charge you 800 points to change your name. Yeah you can chat with someone who is playing on another game, but why would you when you should be talking with your teammates. I forgot downloads, but 360 in it's first year didn't have much content either.

[Eternal E 808]

first things first god of war dident even have great graphics and i could name a ton of xbox games that had way better graphic than that game like unreal championship 2 and 2nd of all the reason there should be chating in different games is because if your playing an rpg and want to talk to your friends that are playing another game you should damn well be able too in this gen also 360s first party games already proved that they are in the top spot.

[toughNAME]

stop comparing killzone and halo

remember what happened last time?

[sumfood4u]

Wii came out 2 weeks or 19days to be more percises after the Ps3 did. That why they compare them like that! Price Drop during Holliday times could make people buying two of them, if the PS3 was $300. So yeah I like many others can't really afford PS3 price, an hope for a Price Drop. That the only way I see them Having a Merry Christmas like the rest of us!

[progx]

"Grand Theft Auto, Metal Gear Solid, Ratchet and Clank, Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter, he added."

-GTA's multiplatform, MGS is good but its not a system seller. Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter? LOL GTFO, not for $60.

"it is unfair to put the Nintendo Wii and PS3 in the same category. The Wii is a sub-£200 console and does one thing pretty well. Compare that with a £400 piece of hardware that plays next-generation games, allows users to access photo files and has built-in Blu-Ray technology."

-Wow Sony still talking about the Wii being last-gen...YAWN. Wii f*cked you up, get over it already.

[Shaka2K6]

Its possible Sony are very smart they know what they are doing i dont see how will x360 compete againts Heanvenly Sword, Uncharted,Socom,Ratchet and Clank, Lair,Haze, Unreal 3,Ninja Gaiden Sygma ect.

[funkysolo]

The matter of the fact is you havent' try PS3, but willing to give your 2 cents. Halo series is not the best game out there period, single player not even close.It may seem like a giant game on the 360 but if it was on the PS3 it would get over shadow by so many games. The fact of the matter is people that are buying halo3 (including myself not at lunch but when i can buy on ebay for $30) already have xbox 360s. Halo3 will not move many systems the way you want to think. Look at last gen, The games that move systems are the games like your god of wars, MGS, Uncharted, the only reason I brought up Killzone 2 was just so PS3 can prove what kind of graphics it can produce, whether if the story and gameplay can match the graphics is another story. Halo3 might sell 5million copies but will be to 360 owners that fall for the hype, Heavenly Sword, MGS, Uncharted will move 6 to 7 million PS3s out the door. Killzone 2 vs Halo3 will be a hot topic next month at E3, you better hope Halo3 has more to offer than that beta cause Sony didn't spend $50 million on Killzone 2 to be an average game. Their reputation is at stakes, so you better beleave Killzone2 will deliver in the graphics department, wait until E3 to judge the gameplay.

[MetalProxy]

Thanks for saving me some time man, it would have sounded like I was copying you, lol.

[power of Green]

It exists and it is beautiful

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

[DJ]

heard of yet from Sony's internal studios, with another 10 or so that are showing some great progress. 3rd parties aren't being complacent either; they've been working hard on their titles for a long time. This holiday season will be a repeat of happened to the PS2 in 2001. It had a huge drought of title up until late summer/early fall, and sales just skyrocketed.

[Uganda64]

Now Metroid, that's no system seller.

That leaves Wii with 2 whole titles for the rest of this year, and hey, probably next year too. SSBB and SMG.

Let's be honest, Wii gets slaughtered, and rightfully so by both 360 and PS3. Not only by their exclusives but by their multiplatform titles which will NEVER come to Wii. get used to it Wii owners, Nintendo had no clue what was good for gamers and opened up a whole new world for thier usual game droughts and shovelware (DS style).

PS3 however has the winning lineup this year if Killzone 2 makes it alongside a price drop. Otherwise with just the price drop it'll be neck and neck with 360. We all know MS can't afford a price cut because it needs to make profit and is STILL losing money on each 360 sold, and Halo 3 will drive sales - so they can't be losing money by then otherwise it's game over. Luckily for them, the 65nm will FINALLY put them in the black before Halo 3 is out this year.

Now PS3 has fully exclusive MGS4 this year (confirmed 2007, never confirmed to be delayed), Tekken 6, GT5 Prologue, Uncharted, R&C5, Warhawk, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Socom, HOME (which may not drive sales but will be the "it" factor separating the consoles - and will be more successful than 50milllion worth of GTA content which casuals will never buy - hell, free GTA HOME space will slaughter that 50mil investment), timed exclusive Haze, possibly timed exclusive UT3.

360 has Halo 3, Blue Dragon (will flop, already flopped in Japan), Bioshock (no mass appeal, also on PC, coming to PS3), Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, PGR4.

Don't know how MS hope to compete. They don't suddenly get GTA4 exclusive content on release, so definitely can't advertise it as being there. On 2 equally priced consoles, GTA4 will be more attractive as a casual game to the free online, reliable, full of casual titles PS3 rather than the proven to be hardcore 360.

[razer]

thru those Sony colored glasses you got on..

Never underestimate the competition.. Business 101

[iceice123]

Ohh man that's a good rant there, buddy. Just a note: Keep dreaming about Bioshock, it's not coming to the PS3.

[kornbeaner]

As of now the 360 is actually turning a profit on each console sold of roughly $75. That's one of the reasons I don't think we will see a MS price drop. There are still in the Red because of the orignal Xbox and the profit they are turing now is helping them alot.

So both systems right now are not really in position to give consumers a price drop. The only way we will see a price cut is if a company is willing to bet on the games that are gonna be released for the consoles.

PS3 can wager on Killzone2, MGS4, or whatever other game there seems to be a high level of hype for.

The way I see it MS can bet the farm on Halo 3. But this game will sell and sell consoles as well even if the 360 stays at $400, So MS is in prime to position to improve their position and money stitution .

So I think Sony should drop the price of their console to improve their install base that way they can probley ween away more exclusives.

Both companies can't really afford a price cut, So the games that released are gonna be important then ever, so sony has to deliver more then they have ever delivered before, Hopefully they can. E3 will lets us know where is company stands.

[progx]

funkysolo="The matter of the fact is you havent' try PS3"

-Yes I have played it. My buddy has one and i've played it quite a bit. Nothing on the PS3 makes me wanna buy it. Especially not at $600.

TheDesperado=-"Holy crap did someone just say METAL GEAR SOLID was not a system seller? F****ing idiot!"

-Its not dumbass, good game but not a system seller. And who mentioned metroid? oh yeah..nobody. I suppose you think Super Smash Bros isn't system seller either huh?

[snoop_dizzle]

Sony will do good, but Msoft isn't going down without a fight. And hey have you guys thought that they might have something.

From what i hear they have something called money and alot of it.

But anyways, this Christmas is gonna be awesome. :)

By then the PS3 will have stuff i want.

[highps3]

Funny but a lot of you have been saying Sony will lose FOR A LONG TIME NOW...

Its Microsoft who should be worrying....

But just keep thinking 360 has everything locked down Microsoft...

Oh and what happend to the 360's game list? Most if not all their decent titles can be played on PC...

[TriggerHippie]

I admit the software line up for the holiday season looks great. But for it to be really successfull they still may need to have that price cut they are concidering.

[Covenant]

In simplest terms, here's what they need to do:

1. Drop the price

2. Have more games

That will help.

However, the competition will also have some major selling points:

Wii:

1. Price (already there)

2. Metroid, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers, etc.

360:

1. If the PS3 drops in price, then the 360 will, as well

2. Games: Halo 3, BioShock, Mass Effect, and more.

I think all three systems come out of Christmas 2007 looking really good...and I think that '08 will go much further than this Christmas in determining current-gen fortunes.

[CrazzyMan]

or maybe TGS07. =)

anyway, it`s very DEPEND ON what games you prefer.

For MGS, FF, GT, Turrican, Ratchet, Socom, Team Ico games, Gow, Tekken FANS PS3 FTW.

While for Halo, PGR, (NG, Fable, GTA4) FANS x360 FTW.

[gaffyh]

Exactly, I agree with you CrazzyMan, the reason you get the console is for the games that will be released on it, all of those you named for PS3 are ones that I really want (except Turrican sounds familiar but wtf is that?).

Everything else I prefer for PC, especially FPS. PS3 needs a price drop, but they are working on their games so can hope for some better stuff soon.

[FordGTGuy]

No doubt about it.

[gogeta242]

Just like Halo 2 won MS Christmas 2004?

[JokesOnYou]

Despite what I think of the PS3 I have no doubt it will continue to limp its way through this gen but it will remain the least popular next gen console because the other two consoles are better for their intended purpose=gaming. Wii has the kiddie and family market cornered, while the 360 is a better all around gaming console. micro has a far better lineup this holiday season so I don't see there fortune changing much, but don't worry sony kids there will be plenty of new poo-ray releases.

JOY

[gogeta242]

Would you xbots please name these so called titles that PS3 can't compete with. It seems you all have a neglectful eye when it comes to PS3 games. All I see on 360 this year is Halo 3, and Mass Effect. LOL, How is this going to compete with MGS4,Ratchet,Lair,Heavenly Sword, Socom,Folklore,and Uncharted.

[Bluemaster77]

yeah man i agree the 360 is the best console over all and who's the hell worried about killzone 2 it was proven that the ps3 is incapable of producing a game of that caliber and it will be nothing compared to Halo 3 the game that is rivaled only bY GTA IV

[Bluemaster77]

all those titles u named are either sub-par or noone cares for them well i guess if i dropped $600+ id be spewing the same garbage

[kornbeaner]

Halo 3 and that is all that has major hype. Everything else like Mass effect, PGR, and whatever else that is Xbox exclusive are small frys to grand scheme of things they are not system sellers. If it wasn't for GTA 4, the 360 wouldn't have anything but HALO to look foward to.

[UJUSTLOSTONE]

While I do favor PS3, as my console of choice this gen, To say that Halo, or even unproven series such as Bioshock and Silicon Knights are sub-par and no one cares, would be foolish. Likewise, you are definately lieing to yourself if you think Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and proven, PROVEN franchises like MGS4 and Ratchet and Clank are Sub par and garner no interest from the gaming masses.

I understand that you like Xbox, but c'mon dog, be real ! Please ! enuff crap gets spewed on here everyday, Why add to it.

[Bluemaster77]

listen my bad i didnt mean to down MG4 Im a fan of the series a would glady perchase a in order to play it and i wasnt downing mass effect or those other titles u named

[ZyKlOn]

360 song lol

[Sully907]

aha that was great zyk,thanks for posting,hadn't seen that one.I have a 3 year warranty for my ps3 but i doubt i will even need it.

[FirstknighT]

Halo 3, Bioshock, PGR4, Mass Effect, Splinter Cell, Blue Dragon, the best multiplatform games on both consoles in GTA4, Call of Duty 4, Army of Two, etc... The 360 has nothing to worry about. In fact, it really doesn't matter if Killzone 2 came out looking better than the e3 video. One game is not going to save the ps3. It doesn't matter if Metal Gear Solid, Final Fintasy 27, and Killzone 2 all come out before Christmas because it cannot catch up to the juggernaut that is the 360.

New games like Banjo Kazooie, Dead Rising 2, Halo Wars, etc... will keep the ball rolling. While the ps3 still keeps on giving more info about killzone 2 and metal gear solid. It's been like 3 years and nothing but info. Give it up Sony. You have lost. Disagree with me all you want sony droids but monthly sale reports continuously prove it. Gamers are choosing the 360. Sorry sony fanboys, you lost.

[Eternal E 808]

these ps3 fanboys still belive that all thoughs games on that list sony gave out are realy coming out this year because sony said so lol! thats not what the devs were saying Fact.

FirstknighT^^^but surely all thoughs games are going to be released this year and will do some damage in sales and ratings wich will make microsoft bagg another holiday seasons also if microsoft dose have a price drop i see sales sky rocketing mainly because key word "GAMES"and the 360 has alot of them nuff said.

[Why o why]

and games developed in east asia will make the difference for sony. Ms doesnt have enough for the time is been out. The gap will stedily decrease and bang. 2 mil gap, 1 mil gap, whatever.

We have seen this all b4. Nothing any sony or 360 fan says on this site is gunna change a thing. But Im sure a lot of ya have noticed that the ps3 IS picking up its profile because of all the positive news of late ( coincidence??). Some of the 360 fans should of concentrated on getting ms to fix their BIGGEST thorn in their side instead of trolling numerous sites like thats gunna make a difference.

[rowdy 1]

it's only been 7mos relax. You guys are foolish with your "it's doomed" crap. I guess everyone on here is an analyst of some sort. It's cool to post your opinions, but be logical in last 10 yrs SONY has sold more conoles than anyone, they are a big big time corporation the ps3 will start to grow like a tree. Same for 360. The only thing that helped the 360 is that they released there console first. Might not be the best product but it does play games sometimes. Sony is starting bud grow with the PS3 now the smartest thing the did was include blu ray (very innovative) now freaking BLockbuster is in the game with them . I guess non of you realize how important that is to the format war. It's a step on the throat. Now the games ar coming out just in time for the holidays. Looking at things it seems that Sony has made all the right moves. Sony does have a history of starting out sloww then moving into 2nd gear 3rd 4th etc..... Seems to me that most of you guys in here that are saying how come they don't have this now, and they're not selling this no and whine whine whine. Are just straight up premature ejaculators,and do not understand the game at all. Remember you don't shoot your load in the 1st 20seconds. You gotta play for the long haul.

[AznSniper]

but that wont stop them from talking crap anyways

[Sully907]

You kids crack me up,Defending some multi billion dollar company like they are your mother or something.

[TruthHurts]

obiviously hate on people who have $$$.
you sound like a teenage hippie.

the multi billion dollar company.......
you sound jealous.

jealousy is not your friend.

[AngryTypingGuy]

I think that all 3 systems this gen. will have a more equal percentage of the market share. Of the 3, the Wii is the sprinter, the 360 is at a more moderate pace, and the PS3 is the long distance runner. I think the Wii will lose its novelty after awhile, and that Nintendo will be the first to introduce their next system, which will be high def. Maybe they could call it Wii HD. Who would want to put their hands on a Wii in HD? Well, besides people who find that style of game play to be gimmicky.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

Sony needs 3 things:
1. pricedrop
2. great games
3. a final BD victory

All these things will happen in the near future and if Sony can afford a $200 pricedrop, it will be a slaughter. They will take a big hit at 1st, but will get the money back with software, especially when BD wins. They will make gadzillions when BD becomes the HD standard.

[TruthHurts]

"They will take a big hit at 1st, but will get the money back with software, especially when BD wins. They will make gadzillions when BD becomes the HD standard."

yep thats the way you do bizness, i believe there will be a SHOCKING price drop to the ps3 before Xmas.
but who knows maybe i`m wrong.

[THAMMER1]

A $200.00 price drop is not enough. That would put the PS3 in the current space the 360 is in $400.00. Sales would pick up but not to the point where they catch the Wii or the 360 in one month or anything outrageous like that.

Most people are past the point that $600.00 is too much most average people just need some games. I also believe that Blu Ray becoming the stranded will help for real. I feel that way mainly because that is the only reason I would buy a PS3.

$400.00 is allot I have friends and family members who want 360's and can not afford the $400.00. Every one is begging for a price drop just to get a chance to own a next gen system.

[Tesla]

I would like to see Sony going up for Christmas. They have some very good games that are going to be released soon.

[gaffyh]

I can only see a realistic price drop of $100 happening, if they drop too much they will continue to lose money.

I find it funny that everyone replies here calling each other a fanboy of some sort. Grow up, seriously.

[progx]

If sony's really in it for the long term. Id buy at that price. Id be even more inclined to buy of there was a different controller I could buy. One with the d-pad and left stick switched.

[Saint Sony]

1. Sony can't say anything bad about PS3, therefore they say they're doing good. Truth is not quite the same.
2. Sony does plan many things, but not many comes true.
3. Wii kicks butt in Christmas, why?..well, one reason is that Christmas is family holiday and PS3 is far from being family friendly, even 360 is more so at least for now.
4. PS3 is hip only because of the blu-ray = not many want to buy blu-ray/hd-dvd player just yet.
5. PS3 is lacking good games atm... end of 2007 PS3 will have some but not worth the price of the console, unless you also want the darn blu-ray.

Sony won't win Christmas battle at least not with PS3 without serious price cut.