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RespawnAction: "After experiencing MAG and going back to another first person shooter, I feel like MAG has really raised the bar, and that other FPS' are now missing something. I remember how Bad Company 1 also made me say this exact same thing. I was blown away by the destructibility in the game and felt it was above any other shooter. I couldn't enjoy another shooter as much as Bad Company, and now I feel MAG has even trumped it with all of it's features, even without destruction. I enjoyed the Bad Company 2 beta a lot and couldn't wait to get my hands on it, but then MAG came out. I had no intention of even getting the game until a week before release. A great decision by me, and I'm sure by a lot of other people."

[Double07]

"I guess, the only people who can feel what I am talking about are those who've played it."

Damn straight, its a fantastic game and I cant stop playing it. Before people critise the game they should actually play the damn game, but alas people see the reviews and are put off. But hey, all I know is that im enjoying the hell out of it.

[slipkoRn]

Once you go mag you wont go back.

[Blaze929]

Dude...wtf man...wtf?

[gamingisnotacrime]

MAG is a game that cant be described in a just manner with words nor videos. You have to take the controller, use the headset, and feel the feeling of immersion that is unbelivable. I dont like online only games, FPS online like halo, Cod, KZ2 are not my sweet tooth, but MAG is NOT a FPS online game, is a squad based tactical game were going comando will get killed every time. Im enjoying this game so much and i got it because Dead Cell made a post describing MAG and my jaw drop, i bought it and my jaw dropped even lower. This game is absolute amazing, and after playing on those HUGE maps with over 100 players in Acquisition, is hard to go to a 16 battle royal in mini maps. Give the game a try, is very difficult to express the MAG experience through words or videos

[SnuggleBandit]

Dear Mods,

When you see someone in the gamer zone continuously bashing another system, it IS OK to delete their posts. It would be greatly appreciated if you would get rid of all this flaimbait bull crap in the gamer zone. This is another bungie account, and you guys know it! Ban him or at least delete his stupid crap.

Thanks

[rob6021]

??? Lag?? Are you kidding me, seems like you're trying to spread lies. Lag rarely ever happens in MAG. It's using dedicated servers with no host advantage. Maybe your connection is suspect?

[divideby0]

MAG didnt lag in any of the 3 betas I was in and it does not lag in the final game...the dude above who said MAG lags is totally full of it....
MAG has other issues, but lag is not one of them...
Dude just totally embarrassed him self publically with an outright lie

[kneon]

@DaGangstaGamer

Maybe you need to upgrade from your dial-up connection. I've put in almost 30 hours and I've had one moment of noticeable lag. It was exactly that, just a moment. I was running and suddenly I was about 10 feet back from where I was heading a moment ago. Other than that I've had 1 game fail due to connection issue, so that's less that 1% of the games I've played that had a serious problem.

MAG has the most rock solid online I've ever played.

[sikbeta]

DaGangstaGamer is da stealth-trolling in da article about da MAG like da lifeless Bungie Kid...

DaGangstaGamer = Bungie = Delusional = lol

On-Topic

MAG is Just AWESOME, mark my words, just go and play it, the more time you play it the more it gets better

Gamers FTW!!!

[Bubbles_Kitty_Cat]

I see that a lot of people are still trying to convince everyone that MAG isn't mediocre.

I'm glad that some people like it (if they are even being sincere, that is) but it looks like most people that play it are not impressed, and they certainly don't feel like MAG has raised the bar and ruined all other FPS games for them. lol

[zeeshan]

Really guys? Is it that good? Damn, it looks like I am missing the whole fun. Gona get it asap!

[JaggedSac]

Why is this in the 360 section?

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

@slipKorn
Only played the beta myself, but the people i've asked have told me it isnt exactly the second coming. Everyone on my FL has gone back to MW2.

[Gen0ne]

As a fellow black man, let me say this. Be quiet, you're embarrassing us.

[mrlakadaddy]

i have known the streets for some time...trust me, he isnt black...more or less a parody of the hip hop gamer...just by the words he is using...he is not black...what a loser...and using 50 cent...lol son you fail!!

[Shang-Long]

..English bro. Please learn to S-P-E-L-L and Speak.

[ThanatosDMC]

Another pointless comment.

Anyway, for those who dont think it's not worth the $65. Try renting it out first it's only $5 or so for a whole week.

[Bubbles_Kitty_Cat]

That's not nice.

Is my opinion only valid if I say the game is awesome?

[ThanatosDMC]

I'm not nice.

Your opinion is blind.

[badz149]

"I see that a lot of people are still trying to convince everyone that MAG isn't mediocre."

and who the hell do you think you are trying to convince people that MAG is mediocre?? you clearly 1 of those who has never played the game so, FVCK OFF!!

[Godmars290]

Your opinion isn't worth anything if its only based on negative hear-say and you hvaen't played the game yourself. That you're saying what you are when most podcasts I listen to talk about MAG like its an addition tells me as much.

[Bubbles_Kitty_Cat]

"Your opinion is blind."

So is Bubbles...

[pixelsword]

When anyone else was playing the Battlefield Bad Company 2 demo did it feel a little empty to you too?

I really love the sound effects for B:BC2 (mostly like 1, but who cares) and I think that's why I like the game so much.

[Shepherd 214]

256 players can blind a person into thinking the game is amazing i guess. More doesnt always mean better, and gameplay wise MAG isnt doing anything special except increasing player count. Not that its a bad game, but i dont really think it raises the bar for shooters since not all shooters strive to be mega battlefield war games.

[raztad]

MAG is incredible. I'm addicted to the game. I think I never been so hooked for a multiplayer game before.

I feel the same that the author. MAG raised the bar for FPS and those 7/10 from casuals wont be able to hide it.

[jessupj]

I don't know. I tried my hardest to get into the beta, but it just didn't feel fun for me. I hated the controls and the hit detection was horrible. It's also very annoying when you die and spawn right at the back of the map and have to make a 1 minute run back to your squad. It baffles my mind that zipper didn't allow you to at least spawn on your squad leader.

Maybe I need to play it a bit more with a headset, but when games are $110 and renting is pathetically expensive so I'm a bit scared to make that investment if I still don't find MAG fun.

[Shang-Long]

raztard whats your psn. mine is my user name here

and jessupj - you can buy and return the game if you dont like it. all stores have return policy to follow just ask them about it.

[facelike]

I agree that it was frustrating to run that long trek to the battle only to get shot down and have to wait again. But what that told me is before I run out to the battlefield, I will stop behind cover, check the map, look for enemies before preceding. I stopped getting killed and the game became fun, I mean at work thinking of strategies fun.

Regardless of what all the bad reviews said, in reality, this games #1 feature really is that it is fun. This game is a blast to play, when you understand how it works. Just don't run out there, look first. Stay with squad members, they will have your back and can revive you.

[DatNJDom81]

I agree with you 100%. This game is great. As far as multiplayer FPS, I just dont see anything topping it anytime soon. Huge maps, so many cracks and crevices to hide (except for sver's fukcing stages. LOL). It definitely wont be for everyone, especially the halozzzzzz and call of dootie types. Let me make it clear that MAG isn't perfect, but damn its so much freaking fun.

[ChozenWoan]

Walking from Base a pain?
Dont bleedout! Wait for a squad mate to revive you... and they will cause everyone likes the +10pts they get. And 9/10 times your Squad Leader will have the revive kit so if your close to them and getting the leadership bonus then you'll likely be back on your feet in no time at all. The only time you should have to walk all the way from base is if your whole squad and your bunker was taken out... or your body is in the middle of a killzone.

Intel Assasins are recruiting for Raven
pm me.

Edit:
Yes I worked in a KZ2 plug into a MAG thread... FTMFW!!!!

[ian72]

@jessupj
You can spawn nearer the front line in MAG when your team gets farther forward. You can change spawn point while waiting to spawn so you dont always heve to run miles to get back to the action. I have spawned in tanks, helicopters and you also parachute in.
@ Bubbles Kitty Kat,
Why so much hate towards MAG, it is a great game and many people love it. I hated the Beta but the full game is great. If more tried the game they would probably like it. You seem like you want it to fail.

[callahan09]

I agree. The size and scope of MAG definitely raise the bar up a notch and have got me hooked. Every battle is so dynamic in a way that the smaller scale of other games simply can't match. I don't think any game of smaller scale is going to be able to top MAG for me personally.

[Lou Ferrigno]

i agree 1million% .. one you experience MAG you wont want to downgrade unless its something bigger then mag (MAG 2?) .. the game has really done something no other game has done before.. its givin the players Replayability,Gameplay thats fun beyond any other FPS (on par w/KZ2 imo),2 5 6 wopping players with controlled chaos and nothing but awesome teamwork.

ever since i bought the game and played it NON STOP,it has tought me the fundamentals of the importance of teamwork,and everytime i go and play either NHL 10,Uncharted 2 or someother team oriented game,i cant help but focus on my priorities of working as a team :)

MAG has done to me this gen what Goldeneye did for me 2 gens ago :)

and EVERYONE that i talk to of my friends that HUGE counterstrike and battelfield 2 /1942 fans have told me how m,uch this game is identical and soo much better in many ways.. for them,its their Console Counterstrike/battlefield 2 .

from us gamers experience with the garbage media about MAG,this is the one game that gamers took over and said "STFU and GTFO cuz MAG is here to stay b!tches!!!! " .. the only reason someone would NOT like this game is 3 reasons.

1)they follow the media's biased stench.

2)they played it and got owned for not working as a team and had a fit and took it back.

3)not nooby glitching campers like MW2,Halo 3 ect ect..

[mastiffchild]

While I also think MAG is an amazing game(finally got it the other day)that will appeal to gamers who're prepared to put in a little more time and effort to learn the best way to play the game(generally AND, most importantly, for them and their squads)than you need to in most shooters.

However, some people just don't dig games where the team is paramount, like to camp, like to go lone wolfing, don't have the extra time it needs to be a decent team shooter player or find MAG just isn't to their taste regardless of how good at it they are. Fact is there's a lot of reasons MAG might not be the game for you and being n00bish isn't necessarily the one and only in existence you know!

It's the same reason that TF2 doesn't have more players than COD4 or even KZ2 as many as WaW-even slightly more tactical shooters cannot appeal to as many gamers as ther pick up and play, aim-assisted FPS brethren and that's just the nature of gamers today. Whether it's personal taste, lack of time or inclination ,or what, team based shooters are less popular than ones where you don't need to worry about it all.

Sadly, I can understand why you, as a MAG player might be so defensive as the kicking people seem to be relishing giving it is bemusing to me as well. They seem to have missed the whole point that it was NEVER going to sell Halo numbers as the team shooter is a bloody niche genre, the reviews are pointless, as well, for MAG as it relies almost entirely upon it's communtiy to make the game the best in can be in the enviroment they brilliantly, imo, created.Reviewing it witout letting it settle was idiotic, imo, and borders on the deliberately unfair and I applaud the sites with the decency to at least allow it to settle down for a week or two.

Finally, the way I see it is the ex SOCOM and Team Fortress gamers and the plucky newcomers who will make up the MAG community stand to gain a little more from it than you get fropm normal shooters as the accomplishment feels deeper in MAG than even in TF2 when things go really well for you and your side. Put a lot in and you'll get a lot out and if it's just genuinely not up someone's street ,for whatever reason, I think it's a pity as there's definitely some great gaming to be had when you start learning the ropes in MAG. The amount of bare faced hate the game attracts is so out of proportion, however, that I find it a complete joke.

[movements]

So MAG was a mistake?

[respawnaction]

No, it does so many things well that other shooters don't feel as good. :)

[Raoh]

playing it now

S.V.E.R. for life

(or until I change factions LOL

[frankymv]

When PS4 launches, imagine 256 (or more) players running around in hi def

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

I bougt it today.. psn Dav3rag3

[VileAndVicious]

Congratz glad you made that switch. And you will be to

[ThanatosDMC]

SVER FTW!

Which PMC did you choose?

[Consoldtobots]

if this game had vehicle battles like bad company does ............

I would trade in every other FPS I own and only play this game.
this is the battlefield many of us have been longing for since I got into gaming. 18 vs 18? 32 vs 32? pffffffft that's for status quo dummies.

[Neo604]

now that is a realistic battle field not graphic wise.

[rob6021]

MAG is the game I imagined a war fps would be long before they ever hit the market. Zipper has successfully created something that has long been impossible. The map/game design is phenomenal, each map is specifically designed for a certain faction to defend and another to attack. (with specific advantages based on that factions strengths and weaknesses)

Finally here we are in 2010 living the war shooter dream. So many players, and it works.. Pass on MAG - It's your loss; lots of us are enjoying the heck out of it. All that CoD is for casuals, MAG is for hardcore isn't true - MAG is for everyone; play it long enough and you'll be hooked. Sure you'll get games with no communication, but persist and find the ones you do and you'll be rewarded with online gaming bliss. Headset is required.

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

I think all games are enhanced with increased communication. You just see much communication in game like CoD

[Neo604]

my problem is I have a hard time killing due to no auto aim and red dot like MW2.

Hopefully my skill get better.

[Shendow]

Yeah I know what you mean, but I got use to it an the first scope you unlock is pretty good for all guns and I went back to MW2 and help a friend.

Yeah I was shock to get 30 kills in almost every game, not counting the ones that had people using glitchs.

[kneon]

I'm not that great at FPS games, my daughter is much better than I am at COD. But my FPS of choice was always killzone and the transition to MAG was easy. I've spent all my skill points getting my sniper rifle upgraded to the max, love the 50 cal with variable scope. So when I'm not sniping I just use the stock machine gun with no upgrades at all and I can still usually get a positive K/D ratio. if I can do it then anyone can do it.

[sick1nyne]

Level 30
Raven
PSN: sick1nyne

[redbadger]

Im giving it a try. too bad the demo servers arent working for i would still play it. Instead ill just buy it. Its kinda feels like a cult classic.

[Gamer7l]

...with no SP campaign, it's not worth a look to me; same goes for Warhawk. I got a PS3 (used 40gig) for a handful of exclusives I was interested in (mainly LBP and UC 1 & 2). I certainly didn't buy it for online gaming ...so buying a MP-only game for the PS3 is pointless.

I'm sure M.A.G. is fun, if you have an established group of online buddies you play with, and you all have (and use) headsets...and GOOD ONES, with no crappy feedback and/or background noise.

But, I bought an official PS3 headset, only to consistently join a UC2 game/lobby where NOBODY is chatting...or WANTS to. Once a match starts, I might as well be playing SP....which is much more fun ANYWAY.
So, unless some of my old XBL friends ever decide to pick up PS3s and join me, I'll never bother with PSN MP gaming again.

[iceman06]

MAG really warrants communication. In fact, I would say that it is KEY to any success in the larger games. It is almost impossible, regardless of skill, to defend an objective without it. I just wish that they could have worked a SOCOM deal and got the headsets into the retail release, thus insuring that ALL players at least have a headset. That being said, I haven't been in one group that hasn't had at least 3-4 of the 8 with mics. Maybe I have been lucky. Or, maybe people are realizing that this isn't the lone wolf style game and you need to communicate.

[ThanatosDMC]

"Bunker left" or "Bunker right" or "They're planting on the bunker"

Yeah, i agree no one communicates in Uncharted 2 unless it's your friends or family. But in MAG you need have to communicate with your squads to be more effective. Going solo rambo style will get you killed fast.

One thing everybody will or all ready hates will probably an OIC jabbering on about BS.

[DJ]

You just joined the group of 10 or so hardcore fanatics claiming to have a PS3 and "love it, but don't play it because all my friends are on 360."

Boohoo. Look, we know you hate PS3. Just enjoy your console and leave everyone else alone.

[Letros]

Sounds really cool, watched some videos of it too, kudos for taking a dive on this type of game, especially on a console.

Unfortunately, I'm not a big fan of FPS on consoles, so I guess I will wait until Sony releases Planetside 2 to get my massive FPS fix.

[divideby0]

I had MAG reserved and the only reason I didnt pick it up was the fear of lack of balance in the game. I played in 3 of the MAG betas and sometimes the deck was so stacked you know you were gonna loose regardless what you did. I am hearing from some budz that presently that is an issue. I think they said Serv is dominating most of the games.
I so much wanted a new shooter and let MAG slip and tried the BC2 PS3 beta, demo and the 360 demo and that game is totally meh..not much diff. than the first. The demo map is stupid it has so many choke points its a snipers dream

[rob6021]

sver often seems better than the other two- but not ridiculously so. It gives you a wide variety of challenge (unless you're sver.) When your team does overcomes tough odds (certainly do able) - it's all the more enjoyable.

[kneon]

But It does appear like SVER have a defensive advantage on at least the acquisition and domination maps. It seems like you've always got at least 3 bunkers that are able to fire at you. The Raven and Valor maps don't have the same level of overlapping cover.

But that doesn't bother me. I knew from the betas that SVER had some sort of advantage. I don't think I ever won against SVER and rarely lost as SVER during the betas. But I play for the challenge, if winning is easy then it's no fun, that's why I joined Raven, and I'm having a blast.

[iceman06]

Agreed 100% I also played with each faction during the 3 beta phases. Maxed each out (lvl 40 during the beta) and found SVER to be the most powerful. Not only is there a defensive advantage, but their guns are literally stronger. I have gone head to head with myself having the advantage of the first couple of bullets and STILL have been killed (not by headshot either). That being said, I also play for FUN and challenge. I play as RAVEN as well...and it IS a challenge. I think that once some of those SVER players get bored with dominating everything and drift to the other two factions, the game will balance out some more. Plus, as Valor and Raven players get experience in attacking SVER...it will get harder for them to dominate. Either way, I'm in for the long haul.

[Bubbles_Kitty_Cat]

(I posted in the wrong section, so here is a picture for your trouble)

[kanetheking]

u love to bash mag don't u.trailer park boys suck o look i am bubbles now =)

[Bubbles_Kitty_Cat]

I'm just offering my opinion of the game.

[kanetheking]

alot of mag articles make you seem bitter.

lol u edited you comm relly.

[bjornbear]

"opinion" HAH

yeah right like you have one

[Bubbles_Kitty_Cat]

"lol u edited you comm relly."

lol, my edited "comm" was simply my post at 1.11, I initially posted it at 15 by mistake.

Oh, and bitter because of MAG???
Uh, no. I have a PS3 and could play MAG if I wanted to, but like most other gamers, I choose not to.

[Consoldtobots]

so spend money on a console just so you can bash the games it has??

there is a name for someone like you but it belongs in the open zone.

[DaTruth]

I actually use to watch that painting guy on television with my mother when I was like five!

Can't imagine what made you pull that out.

[NoOoB101]

SVRE is good but not because of unbalanced. Usually the other team is that good and aren't working well together. I think svre has the most communication going on because most of the beta people jumped to that side. Last night though we played Valor and they had a very good strategy and we had troubles just getting to bunkers. So its really about who you are playing with.

[Gen0ne]

I hope the believers in this game aren't over selling it. Or I'm gonna be pissed.

[BlackAvenger7]

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