The Lost Gamer writes "Yoshinori Kitase also explains that such a problem relates to being unable to currently consider the continual requests for a Final Fantasy 7 remake. "
Kitase is either really bad at his job or just plan sucks at lying.
they have the Gaming Plot, the Characters everything they need, they have the FU(K1NG ENGINE Whats the BIG problem here SE, THE FANS WANT A FU(K1NG REMAKE for the PS3, so DO IT AND DONT FORGET TO MAKE A REMAKE OF FINAL FANTASY 6 TOO, I WANT THAT GAME ON PS3 TOO, and not on the DS END OF STORY JEEZ
SE is pretty much dead aint making a new chrono game cause people in europe didnt wanna buy the rehash. Sony should just get the talent se has left and build a new studio for jrpgs so they can make legend of the dragoons 2.
I want my Tifa/Aeries/Yuffie in HD >:( If they remake FF7 "CORRECTLY" SE will redeem themselves, otherwise FF14 is the final game I'll ever play from them
Are these guys honestly in charge of one of the biggest game franchises ever? I bet he had a bong in his hand when they interviewed him. These games have been dead for a long time now. I knew Final Fantasy, and you sir are no Final Fantasy. Sakaguchi took everything good about it with him when he left.
okay thanks for your input which is horribly biased and completely untrue because Kitase did a fantastic job with FF7, 8 and 10...(not sure who wrote 9 but it was good too) So you keep your negative and very unpopular opinion, we can manage without people like you and you can just go worship Mistwalker all you want which btw are no longer Xbox exclusive. What you said was just bad, awful.
I dug 8, 9 and 10, 7 was pretty good, but I have a hard time believing people like this had anything to do with the quality of those games when they say, "We didn't do this because it was too much work." I guess it's cool that he's honest about it, but how many people just come out and talk like that?
IT HAS TOWNS. ohhnooo. I bet the original will still be way better anyways.
The problem here has nothing to do with development. Wada is the only thing standing between any ff7 being released. Sony has publishing rights so it would be have to be released on the ps3. Actually has there been any ps3 square games yet?
This is quite disappointing. I guess western developers really are a distance ahead of Japanese developers.
people do change and there was once a time when Kitase was awesome, that time is clearly over...all they have left of quality is Nomura which is promising but also very shaky and unstable...I personally think Wada will force him to quit and form his own company or write his own Manga series or something i dont know really but I don't imagine he will let Wada push him around much longer and if Wada tries to force Versus to go multiplat you bet your ass Nomura will walk off, it goes against his entire premise of designing and putting so much time and effort into this game, Versus is HIS...for lack of better word..baby, his pride and joy at the moment and I think we are in for a fantastic JRPG experience let alone FF experience..that's what I think and I will stand by this and Nomura until I am proven to be wrong. Right now I believe that he is the only thing of worth SE has and once he leaves (it's inevitable nobody can deal with Wada) SE is screeeeewed.
1.7's got it. FFVII has way too many towns for them to handle. Towns; separating the men from the boys this gen. Frankly, I don't even want the remake. In the hands of the worthless pricks at SE these days, they'd probably ruin it. When your devs QQ about towns being too hard to create, you know there's a serious lack of talent at your studio.
Really, how many developers do you hear say "It's too much work" and still respect them afterwards? Weakest excuse I've ever heard. The amount of work is worth the sales it will draw.
You guys really hate square enix that much? I really think it's only the business side that has changed, they are influencing development too much now and interfering with creative vision because they think they know best, calling the developers "worthless fcuks" is uncalled for. I can't name anyone on that team besides kitase and you expect the no-names to tell their boss to fcuk off and just leave? They aren't famous enough to ensure a job all they'd be doing is putting bad points on their resumé for being uncooperative.
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft was simply paying for FF7 not to be developed at all. :)
NO ONE *ever* liked Square Enix. We LOVED Square Soft.
"Making towns would take too much time" Didn't they take 5 years to release this game? how much time do they need? Next time they will announce a game for the ps3 and release it for the ps5? or what? and maybe will the game have towns then?
Here's the difficulty: SE loves the 360 (particularly those big MS checks) FFVII publishing rights in NA are owned by SONY. Thus FFVII cannot be on 360 and so they decide to not make it at all. SE sucks just as much, if not more, than MS.
Its almost like they cant see the millions of dollars staring them in the face.
I'm sure they're just saving it as a "get out of jail free card." Moment it looks like they're going under, announce a FFVII remake. There, back to billionaires. Cause you know everyone will buy it no matter what.
What a bunch of crap. Lazy devs FTL. FFVII remake is free easy money for the taking and yet they're to lazy/incompetent to do it. I don't think I'm ever going to buy another SE game again.(Haven't bought one in a long time but that's beside the point) You suck SE.
Damn straight! Square Soft FTW or we would have never gotten to play Super Mario RPG! /seriously
I'm not one of the fellahs who bashed FF13, but what happened to Squaresoft(Square Enix) of old?? Remember when they use to make a wide variety of different RPG series? Check out the list of Square soft games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Now check out the past 3 years of Square Enix Games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... It's mainly Final Fantasy related games,(excluding Virtual Console/PSN Network games) and limited new IPs! What happened to you Square Enix!
The problem is they would have to make towns.
@above: Exactly. And we all know how hard it is theese days for Square. Everything that's on different console than Wii or handhelds, it's just too difficult.
Those games DID have LOTS of towns, huge towns in fact. The games were all town except for were most of the enemy fights took place but there were fights in the towns as well. It just sounds ridiculous to keep reading him say this though, lol. I guess he mean because they would want all their towns to look gorgeous and that would take up too much dev time.
Just let Nomura handle it and it will atleast have some quality unlike ff13.
Agreed! Nomura is a freaking beast! I'm so excited for FFVersusXIII!!!
Do you think that Nomura is creating the game alone? Kitase and the rest of FF13 team moved to Versus.
when SE want $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they will make a remake of FF7 thats my 2 cent
It might be the ace up their sleeve.
at this rate it may not take long.
Oh f*ck off Kitase and cut the bullshit. It's not THAT hard to create towns in HD. What the hell kind of bullshite excuse is that. If devs can make open world games with HUGE cities in HD, then how can you not make towns? Considering the fact even IU, Lost Odyssey etc had them. Square Enix is just lazy. It actuall disgusts me the way they are treating FF. If FFXIV and Versus XIII turn out the same way SE can f*ck off. Being a hardcore fan of their work since I was a little kid, this really aggrevates me.
Actually with the level of quality SE demand its actually a very good reason. If they decide to make a town with the quality they desire, then I guess it will take a long time. Either do it correctly or don't do it at all. Why do you think GT5 is taking so long? The developers are perfectionists, they don't want to cut corners! Trying to create a City or a Town in such amazing graphics is very difficulty.
I do agree with you, but Square used to be an ambitious company. Seems like in the past they would have embraced the challenge.
Oh i'm sure it'll still be a fantastic game
I really hope they'll do a remake eventually, love that game!
i didn't disagree and i see what you are saying.... but square hasn't released any games this gen to the standards you speak of.using unreal engine to produce their games is not producing a high level of standards as it doesn't get to the metal of the system it's being used on. square this gen has been pretty much lazy,they have fallen behind on creating next gen engines and truthfully don't have all the top talent they used to have. and with WADA seeing half @ss attempts that sell in the millions like MW2,chances are,they will hype more and spend less with substandard games. just the engine they created for sony's E3 2005 conference could have been used to make a ffvii remake.but no,they tried to make something new.which is good,BUT....then they throw out half of the material and excuse it as being too hard to make towns.utter bullsh!t. they needed to make the ps3 and 360 version as close as possible and ruined what would have been an awsome exclusive. square is just a joke this gen.they leave nintendo to make games on cd instaed of cartridge.but now,can't handle "too much disc space." if ffvii gets made,someone other than them need to do it.
its not a question of engine tools or talent the question is time/dollar /asset = value in other words i can make a very realistic looking mesh at insanly high poly level and such but if my employer whos payng me to make that is paying say 10 dollars an hour and it takes me 30 hours to make one mesh is that money well spent, if they did it they would make one town and shuffle its arangment around for each other which the fans wouldnt want.. each asset or mesh sound texture, cost a lot to make in man hours if its too costly per asset they wont do it. end of
I think the developer who made White Knight Chronicles should make Final Fantasy 7 after all White Knight Chronicles is getting great reviews IGN 5.1 / 10
"they needed to make the ps3 and 360 version as close as possible and ruined what would have been an awsome exclusive. square is just a joke this gen. they leave nintendo to make games on cd instead of cartridge. but now, can't handle 'too much disc space'." quoted for truth! sums eveything up for me. SE is doing everything wrong. they had the time, the ressource and the hardware to pull out an amazing game but they screwed up the whole thing because of bad decisions and greed. :/
L to the A to the Z to the Y.
What's that spell?
Hes working on multiple projects right now, he just moved to Versus now that he finished the 13. Hes probably working on KH3 already too, all big projects with an hughe ammount of pressure, what moral do you have to call him lazy?
on 3 DLDVDs.
http://th02.deviantart.net/... man.. you no have more nothing idiot for say?
well then make a ff7 remake with ps one graphics and have like 500+ hours of gameplay... im willing to compromise... actually lazy bums just forget it.. capcom get to work on breath of fire V
Your some dumb kids that know nothing and think Square owns you anything. First who are you to tell them what to do? They studied and worked hard to get where they are. And do you people actually think before saying the cra that comes out of yoru mouth? Do you think they dont do the remake cause they dont want to? Cause they are- quoting Kain81-"lazy"? SE isnt a person, its a company. FF7 remake would very probably be a gold mine for them, and everythig they want, like any other company, is to profit. They have their reasons to not have done FF7 remake yet. You know nothing about it. Laziness has nothing to do with it. How can you call this guy lazy or any other FF dev? Most of the devs that work on FF now,are the same that worked on it 10 years ago. Do you think you know what can or cant be done more than these guys, like Kitase for example? That guy worked on some of the best games of all time, FF6,7,8,9,10,13, FFvs13 ( yes, hes also in charge of Versus along with Nomura, most of FF13 team is on Versus), Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, Kingdom Hearts, among others. Do you think you know more about how to develop a game, more than this guy? If he says it cant be done on the ps3, then maybe it really cant. Maybe they really want to provide you a good remake, something that dont dishonor the original FF7, and not some rushed crap, and you should be thankfull for that.
Kitase isn't involved in Versus. He may give some pointers to Nomura & the team, but Kitase has totally nothing to do with Versus. Versus is being handled by the Kingdom hearts team, while Kitase's team is the original FF team . Also the producer of Versus is Shinji Hashimoto, who also produced KH 1 & 2.
STFU and get to work already. Lazy jerk.
I'm playing WKC right now and if they could achieve that level of quality I wouldn't mind if FFVII looks similar to that because it looks good.
considering how they have trouble rendering freakin' towns for FFXIII, remaking FF7 would be impossible for Square.
He also forgot to mention that'll be hard to recreate the towns in HD. So his first comment sort of x's his FF7 one. =)
they need to scrap the cg cutscenes and have all cutscenes running in real time or just have less cg cutscenes. They are what makes ff games take so long to develop without them development times would drop significantly. i do love the cg cutscenes but id do without them if it meant me not waiting as long
I think all negative feelings on N4G towards any developer and or console of choice needs to cease. We should learn to avoid anger towards any company who works to make this wonderful hobby we all love, video games. Stop the animosity and enjoy all games, or at least all that fancy your appetite. I know personally I could never please the entire world and though I do believe Square has all fans at heart when putting their talents on the line, it is impossible to please em' all. So get off your high horses negative ones and maybe smoke a bowl, but please stop the trashing of all those involved with bringing us amazing experiences. FF XIII isn't your thing fine but is it really necessary to bash the efforts of the developers to deliver the goods not to mention the money it takes. Maybe I'm ranting but we gamers need to stick together and try to be more supporting towards all involved with this hobby or industry. May we all have a great year and always stay irie :)
You seriously think they would do a remake on a game that had towns while FFXIII didn't? That's just asking them to put more effort. O-M-G how I feel you SE /s. The answer is there. SE is lazy. They'll do remakes from FF1-6 for Nintendo since it gives em quick profits. But FF7 and above (FF8,9,10, and 12) consisted of high quality = so basically, never.
7.1 - its not a question of engine tools or talent the question is time/dollar /asset = value I agree with some of this statement. It is true that time was an issue because they decided to develope for every single system on the market. If they stop making all these sub par game experiences on the DS, PSP, Phones, 360 and concentrate on their core audience they would have the time. Could you imagine the sales of a PS3/ FF7 remake/ Advent Children Blu-Ray bundle on launch day or soon after? What were they thinking? As far as dollars go see above statement. R&D cost to make PS3 demo then chunk the technology. Money lost on creating subpar experiences rather than focusing on the core franchise that made the company a household name. They have the assets after merging with Enix, but I do think they just make bad decisions that cost them millions. That's even after they cash those Microsoft checks. The value of a game or franchise is determined by the consumer not the developer. I see real value in a FF7 remake because that is what the fans want. I don't see value in pissing off your core audience and making people boycott future releases. Square thinks that they can do no wrong, but fail to realize that it was FF7 a game with TOWNS that made them mainstream. They should have did a remake to go along with Advent Children, but instead they produced crap and saw lackluster sales and reviews. These companies need to realize that the consumer's dollars are what keeps them in business, no one cares about Square-Enix's personal goals. It is good to be creative and want to accomplish new things, but that can be done while also pleasing your core audience. If FF versus ends up crap I will have bought 0 products from Square this gen and won't feel like I missed out on anything.
nomura is the man, hes the only good dev left in SE so i trust him with VS 13 lol. did good with all KH games and world ends with u *EDIT AT BELOW* lol world ends with you is a game nomura made for ds lol i didnt mean u :D
I never said the world ended with me. I simply said if the game is not up to par I won't partake in the foolery and buy it. Just because someone is a good developer or producer doesn't mean that they can't lose their creative edge. Star Wars Prequels are a fine example, Soul Caliber went to $#it as well. So far this generation all the developers are so worried about dollars and DLC that they actually forgot about making good games. I'm just saying that a developer should never cry to his boss (the consumer who pays his salary) that his job is too difficult. The Shigeru Miyamoto generation has turned game development over to a bunch of pansies is the point here. Don't try to blame Sqare-Enix shortcomings on me! I bought (just the last 3 years) Kingdom Hearts I and II, Crisis Core, Advent Children, as well as The Spirits Within movie. I'm fully invested in the company and they need to produce or shut up. Midgard228 My bad. I never heard of the game. Honest mistake!
while i know square wasted its time with somegames i think ya forget somethin lol.....tri-ace is the only part of them that has made any games this gen (still luv star ocean). the main square team has been hard at work at 13 and only reason it isnt as good as it shud be is cuz square wanted to rush it so they cud cash on it cuz u guys wanted them to rush it so it cud come out already. one thing ya gotta know if ya r ff fans, FF cities are not basic cities with random buldings around, they have insane art direction, odd building structures and are massive with tons of people. now imagine fully making a 3d Midgar.......that wud be insane, midgar was crazy big in its prerendered form imagine if they had to do that city alone in fullscale????. u guys know it wud be insane work but u guys dont make games, u r just angry and dont understand, which makes sense cuz i just want ff7 remade at w/e cost too lol. but come on, no one will accept a gigantic HD cloud with a huge head walking around a world map near cities. it wud have to be fullscaled sorta like ff12...that wud be insane work, full revamping everything. honestly the only remake that that wud be acceptable on is a ps2/psp remake with crisis core like graphics and advent children quality cinematics, and come on i wud rather have that then them ruin ff7 by taking everything away or not doing the remake at all. sux but if they ever did start the ff7 remake and did it fullscale it wud take about 6-8 years lol, tons of voice overs, wud sadly change battle system to meet current gen standards, theres just to much people want and economy isnt that good even if ff7 ps3 remake wud be biggest seller ever
So they're just too lazy to make a game that would sell millions over night. Excellent business sense morons.
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does not get vs the real final fantasy vs 13 and plus kindgom hearts to ps3 sorry bots you miss out hehehehe
Square-Enix would just screw it up like the rest of their garbage and it would end up being a flop. It's better to just play the original.
if gt5 can take 5 years to make and they sure they gon make a profit....are they sayin that 5 years just to upgrade ff7 graphics is not enough?...since im sure ff7 remake would sell as much as gt5
I wonder how much you would need to pay them to buy the franchise?