Sony Unveils First Blu-Ray Disc Drive Burner

Sony Electronics today unveiled its first internal Blu-ray Disc (BD) rewritable drive for the computer aftermarket.

The new drive(model BWU-100A) supports up to 50 GB of data on BD-R (write once) or BD-RE (rewritable) discs or up to four hours of high-definition video using HDV 1080i on a BD-RE 50GB disc. The new drive is capable of burning a full 25GB disc in about 50 minutes.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

it takes like, an hour to burn one disc?!

[AuburnTiger]

It's a new drive, hell even when the 1st CD burners came out it was taking like 15 to 20 mins to burn just 650megs data cd.

This is 25 gigs!!
That's 25,600 megabytes
25 gigs in 50 isn't a bad start.

[Silent]

Hey dude its 25 GIGABYTS no 25 MEGABYTES

[bernie]

Higher quality compression, far better value on hardware, extra's included on disk (rather than having to download from Sony's Online service), better independent review scores from both online & print publications. If as these polls prove most of the intelligent public pick the higher quality HD DVD, the majority of publishers will follow.

Here's the proof-

http://www.dvdtown.com/arti...

and,
http://www.dvdtown.com/anno...

and finally,
http://www.cinenow.com/uk/p...

Don't waste your money on bluray, get a format that will stay the course, HD DVD:)

[bernie]

Part of the new $150 million awareness campaign.

Here you go: http://www.thelookandsoundo...

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[shoota33]

shut up fanboy.your one sided ignorance is becoming annoying.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

shut up fanboy.your one sided ignorance is becoming annoying.

[achira]

poor guy. blue ray hasnt even started. blue ray has better quality you fool. blue ray can use the same compression technology like hd-dvd but has more capacity ! so why dont you shut up your lier mouth ?

[shoota33]

I know you are board without your xbox 1.5 but damn get a life.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

I know you are bored without your PS2.5 but damn get a life.

[shoota33]

That just shows how childish and immature you are.You really need to get a life,you are the number 1 poster on the site and 90% of your comment are in the ps3 section.You are concerned more about ps3 then you are with your broke xflop 1.5

[THELANDSOFSAND]

lol

keeping stats on my posts now?

maybe you will be a thelandofsand fanboy next

;)

[Bishop]

Don't make me laugh all of the best companies are sticking with blu-ray not hddvd simply because of the copyright protection. Business will stick with the format that offers the most potential space and the most protection.

Most intelligent businessmen will stick with Blu-ray so individuals will not copy their products allowing them to make more money. It’s all about money

[achira]

hd-dvd cost more than a blue ray film ! wait some months and a blue ray player will cost the same as the hd-dvd. we know all why hd-dvd cost not so much, because toshiba takes a lost. but how long can they make that ? not long.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

this drive costs $750 and takes almost an hour to burn a disc.

[Siesser]

That's really not that long. It's basically the equivalent of burning a standard 4.7gig DVD in 10 minutes. Burning more data takes more time, and if you're going to max out the entire 50 gigs, you'll have to come back in an hour and a half or so. I doubt HD-DVD's recording speeds will be much faster.

[shotty]

HD-DVD burner please, i'll even take a sony hd-dvd burner.

[pRo loGic II]

Blu-ray has been proven to be inferior all across the board; i'v cheked them both out just to see for my self the other day. It's too bad you got that sub-par crap in the PS3. #2.4 and #3 you have no idea what you're talking about. people will be educated about both formats and let me tell you; cheaper(as much as half)plus having far better qaulity and more feature's to personalize the experiance is a done deal for HD-DVD. I don't see how Blu-ray can be on top, not even PS3 will save Blu-ray. Holly Wood will follow the consumers not Sony, it's too bad Sony had convinced/trick Holly Wood into believing PS3 will be Gods gift to the world and would be un-stopable. lol

[shoota33]

Your an idiot,blu ray is serperior and every way.why do you think it has so much support and hd dvd does'nt.You are just with hd dvd because MS supports it and you dont want it to fail.Grow up blu ray is already more popular than hd dvd anyways.If MS had blu ray you would be praising it fanboy.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

more popular? any evidence there my little buddy?

lol

and does anyone here even have a blu-ray player?

[player 1]

any1 catch the rumour on this same page
http://www.maxps3.com/forum...

[pRo loGic II]

Closing Thoughts:

The formats are young and immature and the two inaugural players are far from perfect. Toshiba has corrected some of the early faults with its behemoth unit via a firmware upgrade. The Samsung is currently hobbled in ways the Toshiba saw, but firmware updates may not be as easy. HD-DVD is showing superior compression and has more living space than Blu-Ray and at this stage is much more poised for center stage. Visually, HD-DVD is ahead and where HD-DVD is providing a fine number of supplements, Blu-Ray is decidedly bare-bones. With the state of the formats today and Toshiba’s firmware update and especially considering the price, HD-DVD and the Toshiba player looks like quite a bargain when compared to the sexy, but troubled Samsung and its not-quite-ready-for-prime-time Blu-Ray format. If you are looking to test the waters of HD video discs, my personal decision would be to take a serious look at HD-DVD. If you want to jump into to the Blu-Ray water, you may want to wait a little bit until Samsung corrects their problems and Blu-Ray can offer at least what DVD can. Presently, it cannot. (((most won't wait either.)))

[pRo loGic II]

1. In response to the question “Which statement best describes how likely you would be to buy an HD DVD player,” respondents were over seven times more likely to buy an HD DVD player vs. a Blu-Ray player when all studios support both formats.

a. 57% would definitely or probably buy an HD DVD player vs. 8% for Blu-Ray.

b. 25% would definitely buy HD DVD vs. 2% for Blu-Ray.

2. Purchase interest in HD DVD remains three times higher than Blu-Ray -- even without HD DVD studio support from Disney and Fox.

a. 56% of respondents would definitely or probably buy an HD DVD player vs. 18% for Blu-Ray.

b. 20% would definitely buy HD DVD vs. 6% for Blu-Ray.

3. The main reason consumers prefer HD DVD over Blu-Ray is its superior value.

a. In response to the question, “Which statement best describes how you feel about the value of an HD DVD player,” nearly 57% of respondents indicated that HD DVD was a “very good” or “fairly good” value vs. 14% for Blu-Ray.

b. Conversely, 68% indicated that Blu-Ray was a “somewhat poor” or “very poor” value vs. 19% for HD DVD.

4. In the 4th quarter 2006, the quantity of titles in the HD DVD format is assumed to be two times more than Blu-Ray (200+ for HD DVD vs. approximately 100 for Blu-Ray).

[Marriot VP]

well interesting to note, this isn't true high def rewriting. LoL, Sony and it's 1080p pitch, this only does 1080i.

[kingboy]

lol can i say this ..u all are idoits oopss!

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Damn get a life.

[pRo loGic II]

I'm with HD-DVD because i trust toshiba and Microsoft to make the best quality product they can and i know they're proud of what they do and have the consumer in mind a little/lot more than Sony, Sony's just trying to push sale's to stay in buissiness, plus it's cheaper has the feature's i wan't; and HD-DVD/player is superior to Blu-ray player's and the format; to be quite honest. Pray Sony's version/brand will be inproved for they're players and the PS3 drive. But judging from their DVD player's and the Sound systems they put out it they'll be in the mid range plan of qaulity. I could care less about more space that's all Sony has over the conpetetion, and isn't a big deal to the average family. If wife/mommy see's a player $500 cheaper and it has better quality picture while she's out shopping husband/dad will lose with his defense of Blu-ray with the more space arguement. lol

[Bishop]

Just like windows is the best quality OS. (Being Factitious)

[shotty]

Windows is the best OS. Screw Apple and their total lack of third party support. Linuix is not pratical for the average user, it's not consumer friends plus it's always changing. Trust me I have used Linuix Fedora.

[pRo loGic II]

Yah!, all the people doing comarison shopping and most of the world wide web are idiots and you're the only person that has any sense.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Damn get a life.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

You should end yours.

[Bishop]

Will make the difference and blu-ray has the support of roughly 90% of these studios. Consumers will not buy hd-dvd's if their favorite movies are coming out on blu-ray. Consumers make the market and blu-ray has the support just like VHS did when beta-max came out. If anything HD-DVD is the next betamax because of it lack of studio support.

[JIN KAZAMA]

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This is all what this site is about. So dumb

[THELANDSOFSAND]

deep, jin, deep

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

14 - Movie Studios
Bishop - 34 Minutes ago
Will make the difference and blu-ray has the support of roughly 90% of these studios. Consumers will not buy hd-dvd's if their favorite movies are coming out on blu-ray. Consumers make the market and blu-ray has the support just like VHS did when beta-max came out. If anything HD-DVD is the next betamax because of it lack of studio support.
[If no ones buying $1000 dollar Blu-ray players HollyWood will have no choice but to support HD-DVD. Sony had all of the studio support when they lost before, why is it different now.] lol

[Shadow Flare]

this is stupid and most you guys views are tainted by the whole ps3 vs 360 thing

if ps3 never used blu-ray and box 360 never used hd-dvd, (well dvd, and then scraping in with hd-dvd), everyones views would most prob be different. Especially if sony never designed blu-ray

on face value, blu-ray is a more exciting format, it holds much more than hd-dvd, its all copy protected (which is great for film studios), it has much more movie and industry support on its side and ps3 is using blu-ray for games

[shotty]

You're underestimating Microsofts power with HD-DVD. Without them HD-DVD would have died to blu-ray even though HD-DVD is the more pratical format. Microsoft commands the PC, they made HP back out of Blu-ray and Dell will follow too forcing apple to. Currently it costs PC manufacters an extra $30 to add blu-ray software to a new PC but with vista the software for HD-DVD is already there so manufacturs don't have to spent the extra $30. This cost added up will be over $100 million in savings for manufacters. Microsoft will also give manufacters rebates for including HD-DVD. HD-DVD is just starting the manufacting campaign that cost $150 million. I'm guess come next year summer this war is over and HD-DVD will come out winning. One of the main reasons DVD are so popular is because they are cheap and the software is already include and has little copy right protection so burning something onto DVD is quick and easy. HD-DVD is the same thing just with faster read speed and greater capacity.

[D R Fz]

Shotty think about what you’re saying. The blu-ray is not only for pcs, it’s also for home entertainment thus a blu-ray player. Therefore, saying that Microsoft commands the pc does nothing when compared to all the brands of electronics that are commanded by the Sony title. Another thing I’m not sure of is the source of your information. Even if it pc manufacturers save “$100 million” when they don’t use Blu-ray software, since we are talking about more than just the pc here, what about the entertainment industry? You said that the DVD is popular because it “has little copy right protection so burning something onto DVD is quick and easy.” However, did you know that “DVD piracy costs studios close to $4 billion each year, approaching $5 billion by the end of the decade?” ( http://macrovision.com/prod... ( http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/a... Now compare that to 100 million and think about whose losing more here and why one would chose Blu-ray over the HD-DVD, which as you said compared to the DVD, “is the same thing just with faster read speed and greater capacity.” To the entertainment industry, which is more of an innovation, a faster DVD or a Disc with greater copyright protection?

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

Nope! its the value of HD-DVD and seeing it first hand is why i feel Blu-ray is a rip off. Most of the posts about this comes from sources that have nothing to do with video games. lol Blu-ray has more space so what!, if you knew what you were talking about you would know HD-DVD has all kinds of features to customize the movie ect, and Sony and friends want to copy it and will or has. just like last time the studios will make movies for the format the consumers choose not Sony.

[Shadow Flare]

i also feel that hd-dvd is a bit of a scam for xbox 360

ms says how its good to have the CHOICE to buy the hd-dvd periferal for 360. What BS

If the 360 was released this nov. hd-dvd would have come standerd with the console and they could have used hd-dvd to play 360 games

the 360 was released a year ago, purely to get a headstart on the ps3 (because thats how ms thought they would beat the ps3). But a year ago, hd-dvd wasnt a finalised format, thus they couldnt include it in the 360

360 was rushed

[mephixto]

Yeah the HD-DVD is better. Why?
1. Have more capacity 25Gb compared to the 200GB of a 8 layer Blu ray disc is a lot more don't you think?
2. HD-DVD have Warner Bro. and MS support and BR is supported by ehmm all Hollywood? HD-DVD will rulezzz!!!
3. The HD-DVD movies are at $24.96 and Blue ray movies at $19.96 at amazon.com. Yeah the HD-DVD is more cheaper I'm a Xbox customer and a do my math homework
4. An HD-DVD player it's around $600 - $500. The Ps3 is a BR and a gaming machine and will cost $600. So if you buy a HD-DVD player you made the beast deal.
7.- My Xbox360 will play HD-DVD movies with the add-on of the HD-DVD drive that will cost maybe $100 + $500(xbox360 system) + $200 of my Xbox live fee of 5 years OMG!! $800 even in the price the xbox360 rulezzzz!!! Billy you are my hero take my money!!!

This could only happen on the retarded mind of an xbox360 fanboy

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

You got something wrong here. You won't see HD-DVD movies on 360 if the studios decide to include HDCP and that's most likely what will happen.

[MISSY E]

Toshiba HD-A1 (HD-DVD) - SRP $499
Pros:
* Great high definition picture
* Incredible HD Upconverting for SD-DVD
* Attractive pricing point
* Upgradeable Firmware via Ethernet
* First out of the gate

Cons:
* Very slow load times
* Horrendous remote
* DTS conversion of Dolby Digital
* Somewhat lacking hardware design
* Poor HDMI handshaking

Samsung BD-P1000 (Blu-Ray) - SRP $999
Pros:
* Great looking player
* Incredible PCM sound
* Value added memory card slots
* Good HDMI handshaking
* Pretty blue lights

Cons:
* Frequent playback hiccups
* Inconsistent visual presentation
* Slow processing time & the hourglass
* Poor HD Upconverting for SD-DVD
* Expensive pricing point
In response to the question, “Which statement best describes how you feel about the value of an HD DVD player,” nearly 57% of respondents indicated that HD DVD was a “very good” or “fairly good” value vs. 14% for Blu-Ray. The movie industry is nothing without the consumers

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

The picture quality is only bad cause of the ancient mpeg2 codec. You can be sure that this will change in future and will surpass HD-DVD PQ, cause Blu-ray has a much higher bitrate. This are just the startup problems, with mpeg4 it will be light's out for HD-DVD.

[MISSY E]

If a gamer wants to be cheap and only spend $300 just to play games he can do so with the 360 or if he already has a HD player why spend extra cash on something of lower quality. Or the person may not wan't to buy in to HD players, Did you ever think about that? most will not have the Tv's to use the HD in the movies. This comes down to space which double sided games isn't a big deal or double disc games. Dumb ass Sony fans believing Sony's BULLSHIT!!!. Sony's base grew the most when the console was $200 and lower.

[MISSY E]

HD-DVD clearly outshines Blu-ray
By Don Lindich
Q: What are your thoughts regarding the new HD-DVD and Blu-ray high definition video discs?

Thaddeus Mark, Castle Shannon

A: HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc are the two new formats competing to be the high-definition video disc of the future. Each promises to provide much better picture quality than standard DVD. The formats are not compatible. HD-DVD players will not play Blu-ray discs, and vice versa. (Think Beta vs. VHS again.) You can buy the Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player for $500. The only Blu-ray player currently available, the Samsung BDP-1000, costs $1,000.

I recently saw demonstrations of both. The Blu-ray demo was at a top-notch home theater specialty shop. It used a front projection system and a prototype Sony player, and it was led by Sony executives using custom-made demo material. I saw a regular production HD-DVD player with a 50-inch plasma TV in a Best Buy store. Both looked great to my eyes. Obviously, the Blu-ray demo was bound to be more impressive given the environment and demo material.

Even taking this into account, I was very impressed and left with no reason to think Blu-ray would be anything but incredible in production form.

Given that the demonstrations used radically different equipment, software and surroundings, I did a little follow-up research online and was shocked at what those who own both formats have to say about their real-world experience.

Based on the first round of reports, the HD-DVD format is garnering praise, but Blu-ray is garnering almost universal scorn from reviewers and enthusiasts alike. Reviewer Evan Powell, of projectorcentral.com, commented of Blu-ray: "The image quality does not measure up to what we would expect from a high-definition source, and it certainly falls short of the hype."

At the AVS Forum, home-theater buffs had even harsher reactions. A sampling of their comments: "There's no getting around the fact that, at this time, BD is not as good as HD-DVD"; "I watched one and a half movies when I realized that they look horrible. ... needs to go to the scrap heap"; "This has to count as one of the greatest AV disappointments I can remember!"; "I took it back after two days. ... I just couldn't justify keeping the Samsung when I considered what I'm getting from the Toshiba at half the price"; and "Too much money, too little performance. It went back!" You can read these and more comments under the Blu-ray player and HD-DVD player forums at www.avsforum.com.

The bad launch does not mean Blu-ray is doomed, as more movies and players are to come, and they are likely to improve.

Industry politics and money will play a role in the format war, too. In two weeks, I will discuss more on HD-DVD, Blu-ray and DVD.

Don Lindich is the creator of the "Digital Made Easy" series of books. Submit your audio, video and digital photography questions to [email protected]
(I can post more on once Blu-ray improves the players they "just" might compare to HD-DVD but in the end if comments and obsevation gets around for longer than a few more months it won't matter if the they work on it and iv been reading thats it's just not the player but the disc is garbage too. I can post proof from sources thatdo nothing but do this kind of stuff all day.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

You postimg old news and btw what did they say? "at this time" ;-)

[Optimus Prime]

gametime, do you think everything that sony comes out with is superrior. get a life. whenever i am on this site, wow there is gametime again, posting his bs as usual. god you are immature. keep waiting for your ps3, just keep waiting. do something, get a job, a girlfriend, something to keep you occupied from your computer and video games.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

I'm not gametime. You must be a noob, otherwise you would know it.

[shoota33]

What the hell are you talking about stupidass i have not been on this site for hours,why are you concerned when i am on anyway?.And when did i say everything that sony come out with is seperior.Stop making up stuff that i never said.I know ps3 is seperior to xflop 1.5 in every way and everyone knows it but you xbots,why do you think there are pyramids of the crapbox 1.5's in every store. I think it is you that needs too get a life LOSER!

[THELANDSOFSAND]

lol

gametime sees magical invisible pyramids of next-gen technology, i think waiting for the PS3 has finally driven him nuts!

[MISSY E]

They said at this time the quality is poor and one day may be on par with HD-DVD the news may be old but the opinions are constant. It will be too late to change the masses opinion if it doesn't cnange in 2006. HD-DVD will build it's base alot bigger than it would have if this didn't happen although this is the only thing the average shopper care's about, the picture quality it's the hole idea right?.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

You can say what you want, but everywhere you go you will read that from the technological side Blu is superior. It will surpass HD-DVD PQ cause of the much higher bitrate.

[mephixto]

No matter what you say, no matter what tou do the HD-DVD was born dead, and it's alread failing. I don't any HD-DVD burners, I don't see 8 layer HD-DVD wiht 200GB, I don't see news of HD-DVD the only thing what I see is news about Blue ray and people flaming it with out even read the specs. NOOBS!!. And if you don't read the news Toshiba wants a unified format now. Why ? Maybe because they already lost alot of support in his format.

And about the mpeg2. You are idiots or what?

No matter what format you choose mp4, mpg, divx, etc the quality is the SAME!!!!!!!! only if you choose to compress the video you will see taht format is the best best. BUT HD MOVIES DOESN'T COMPRESS THE VIDEOS YOU NOOBS!!!!!. Go and read you need it.

[Optimus Prime]

see right there. you think sony is superior, or how you say it serperior. get some dam english lessons you panzy ass. you are just making this site more and more stupid, always starting flames.
and xbux is a pathetic 7 year old that thinks it is cool calling people xbugs and xbots. yea really cool.you dont know how stupid you sound. everyone tells you, but you just ignore it thinking it is cool. keep on thinking of this stuff. real intelegent. maybe read, as you can see i was talking to gametime, but you take things way out of hand. you guys are lame, you guys worship the ps3 like it is a god.
i hope you both get a ps3 at launch, then it fails on you. come november xbox360 will at least have an 9-10 million lead. i aint to worried about the ps3. it is a bunch of lies, and everything packed into that george foram grill is a copy of the 360 or wii.( well pretty much everything.) sony comes up with one or two things, but then uses all the others ideas.

[shoota33]

ok you really have some promblems first im from NYC where the hell do you get europe from.Second keep dreaming of your 9 to 10 million lead because it will most likely be 6 to 6.5, and even that lead will disappear in half the time it took xflop 1.5 to get to six.You just wont admit sony made the better machine this time i mean grow up.

[MISSY E]

Down graded games, down graded console and piss poor format. lol All consumers/people will buy the this sh!t will see,is the piss poor graphics vs the first time they seen them and the sh!tty picture of the intry level BR player. That's it!.