Kazunori Yamauchi, the legend that brought us Gran Turismo, has confirmed that Porsche cars will not be included in Gran Turismo 5.
Well at least RUF will be included.
The GT series has always had RUF which are basically Porsches anyway.
Thats what i was gonna say. RUF takes a good porsche and makes it better.
People just want to ignore the facts and focus on the bad parts... You know, the usual trolling. RUF are custom made Porsche and they are on GT. http://www.racperformance.c...
yea RUF is there a replacement for Porsche
but I really love Porsche, and no they are not the same, not to me at least. Plus ruf only does 911s, what about the other Porsches, I am dying to drive the Carerra GT. I have been trying to decide which to get GT5 or FM3 and I think this does it for me, im going with FM3.
RUF does Boxster and Cayman too
Porsche has never been in GT, for the past Decade. I surely doubt you've cared to look into GT at all. Plenty of arcade racers have the Carrera GT. and RUF doesn't only do the 996/997. They do the CTR3, which is also faster than the Carrera GT, as well as the Cayman. http://www.evo.co.uk/carrev... http://www.porschetuningmag... Its like you guys haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. The Carrera GT is so badass its discontinued.
F$#@Kin'son of a B!TCH! I'm not buying GT5 no more!!!** Breaks'n throws everything in the living room except the xbox 360** Lol! J/K! who cares... Its gonna be awesome no matter what car is taken out.
You stumped the chumps, lol! To be honest, I was one of them because I had no clue about the RUF. You get bubbles and respect for those posts.
to get past the rights EA has?
Gran Turismo is regarded as more than a game, it is a driving simulator. I know a few petrol-heads who love cars, and not games, but are going to buy a PS3 to play this. Also, in the UK the car mags, and car tv programmes like Top Gear and Fifth Gear go crazy for it. GT serves to promote all the included car brands. So if P*****... who? don't have their cars on show, because they have been paid a lot for exclusivity by a different party, they are actually missing out on the most important, most car game ever. Their loss.
The lack of Porsche wouldn't bother me much in any case, they all look almost identical to me apart from the Panamera and the Carrera. For me in the UK I would prefer to see more cars that I drive next to everyday on the roads such as your Vauxhalls, BMW, Audi, Renault, Fords, Citreons, Honda, Mazda etc. But please have a Vauxhall VXR8, the Monaro just doesnt do it for me!
Kaz: "At this point, it's just a rumor. So you'll have to see. (It must be noted, he said so with a smile, leading us to believe that some sort of track editor is in the works for the new game.)" Motor Trend: "Are you headed to this weekend's Tokyo Auto Salon?" Kaz: "Yes, my team and I will be there. We're planning to have one of the biggest GT5 displays we've ever built. There will be more manufacturer agreements announced there as well. It'll be a great show for us."
Wow. If Kaz were to announce that Porsche were to be included in GT, the same folks proclaiming that "we still have Ruf" would be the first ones to start shouting "haha, we have Porsche now, Forza is t3h sux0rz blah blah". I'm sorry but as a genuine car enthusiast this is a big disappointment. Especially since PD finally managed to nab the rights to include both Ferrari and Lamborghini, two of the other three big marques that were always missing from the series. Don't get me wrong, Alois Jr. continues to build some beastly machines like the mid engined CTR3. Regardless of whether or not Porsche ever makes it into GT, I hope PD continues to include Rufs in the vehicle lineup. That being said, any genuine gearhead knows that Porsche (not Ruf, not Gemballa, not Techart) has a catalog of vehicles worthy of being included in GT from the Can-Am 917s, slant nose 935s and the 2.7 RS of the 70s, to the 944 and the 959 of the 80s all the up to the Carrera GT and the 997.2 GT3RS of the 21st century. Saying "Ruf is the same", or "Ruf is better" is ignorant. Perhaps PD should yank all BMW M cars and only include Alpinas and remove the entire Ford brand and only include Saleens? GT is a fantastic franchise. The more marques PD can get into the game, the better it becomes.
I was just about to say pity, just have to make due with RUF. I had no idea RUF was actually a real car. I always thought it was just GT unable to get the license and making up a name! Lol @ fanboys pretending they wanted the game and now don't want it now when no GT has ever had Porsche! There really are lots of people who just started gaming end of last gen! @Above: I'm sure what they are saying is that it is not a gamebreaker! Everybody who actually cares about the game is at least a little disappointed! Coming from someone who doesn't really care about the game, but played the first four a lot!
I don't buy that. I remember when EA owned exclusive rights to Ferrari and Lamborghini and while some of us openly expressed our wishes that one day, the two marques would make their way to GT, others went out of their way to pretend like they didn't care or state that they were indifferent on the issue which IMO was a blatant lie at the time. Sure enough, when Ferrari was announced for Prologue and Lamborghini was spotted in GT PSP, ohhhhh man the flip-flops started pouring in. I agree that for many (myself included), the exclusion of Porsche is NOT a dealbreaker as we've all lived with Ruf up until this point. But I'm also willing to bet that a lot of people (not everyone, but a lot of folks) who are claiming that "they don't care" are full of **** and will be the first ones to rub it in the Forza fanboys' faces the day the marque makes it into the game.
I can care less if Porsche isnt included.
thank you i agree with u, i never care for porsche though. I dont care if some gamers are piss off because of this. Day 1 buy for me. Play3beyond
after the EA exclusive expires. I mean i could be free as the modeling is already done since they will include RUF cars. Just have to retune the cars.
Seems to me that this would actually be a bigger lose for Porsche that it is for Gran Turismo 5.
maybe it's because of the damage stuff? porsche might not want their car's to get smashed up.
you can smash them up plenty in forza, nfs, etc etc...
950 Cars with 70+ tracks is more the enough imo
the definite racing game....with not one single Porsche..............bahahahah hahhahaa gt6 is where its at only 10 years to go
RUF is a porche.... and GT5 isn't the "DEFINITIVE RACING GAME"... that's what forza III claimed to be (and it is not). GT5 is "THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR" or in other words, the racing game that true car enthusiasts will be buying.
FM3 is the definitive sim. The level of customization and tuning alone proves that. Add to that the AI and driving physics and you have the best this gen, and it will still be the best when GT5 comes out next gen ;) As long as GT5 has those ice physics they will be number two, no 300,000 dollar super car goes into an uncontrollable spin like a Frisbee at 50mph. There is such a thing as grip, with high performance cars, when lost you can regain grip if you know how to drive, that reality is not accurately depicted in GT5s hovercraft physics.
either you're completely wasted right now or you work for turn 10... that's the biggest load of crap i've read yet.
for T10. I just happened to have played both games, well I played the "demo" of GT5. It was light years behind FM3 in the physics department. Have you played both? Or are you just basing your argument, or lack there of on fan, boy love?
I don't think 90% of us in N4G have ever stepped into a $100,000+ sports car and "know how to drive" one. Afterall, you see more people wrecking their sports cars on Break than you do videos of people that actually know how to drive one. Given that in mind, I would rather think that by flooring a $100,000+ vehicle, I would lose control and feel like I'm driving on ice rather than actually knowing how to regain control by a simple flick of the analog stick and fine control of the triggers. And with that in mind, I don't think the 90% of us here in N4G are credible enough to say we know what one particular $100,000+ car feels like, if it under/oversteers too much, and that the physics in one game is accurate while the other isn't. I'd rather hear the opinion of a racing professional with a racing license than the opinion from a person that took their car for a "drag race" down the street or the opinion of a person that took their slightly modded 350z to laguna seca for one weekend. It's the same as would you want a trained licensed technologist to prep you up and tell you what you're supposed to do for a scan or a trained licensed phlebotomist to draw your blood? Or would you rather someone that's seen it done and tried it a few times to fiddle with your body? I'd take the seasoned professional.
@Strikepackage Bravo Wow man, you have zero understanding of a lot of torque, rear wheel drive, and high horse power affect a vehicle moving at high speeds. Or for that matter flooring a high performance vehicle from a dead stop is not a easy task, every had a ass end swing out on you? you think you can gain control in real life? You cant even play Gran Turismo. @beardpapa 90% is probably about right. I have been lucky enough to drive a few high performance cars in my life, Porsche Cheyenne(a friends), 2 Dodge Vipers(worked at a dealership), a Ferrari(same dealership),a Shelby Mustang(Belongs to a friends dad) and a Mercedes SLS(again, same dealership), just wish I was lucky enough to be able to spend 100 Gs on a car, I mean that's about half of what my house is worth.
No Porsche but 1000 cars, lol Well, 150 Nissan skyline modells FTW :D
Poor bot, Flopza 2.5 flopped so hard & only 5 people bought it... :D Gran Turismo 5 Features List: 1,000 vehicles 60 courses confirmed with 20 or more to be revealed physical simulation of vehicles Physics system simulation is brand new Represented is full fall in vehicles [possibly rollover] Damage representation (reproduced in full by real-time collision deformation) faithfully reproducing the behavior of electric cars, i.e. Prius, Insight, hybrid cars and the latest Tesla model Single Race 2 player battle World Map My Garage Car Dealer Tuning Shop (parts, tires) Car Washes/Oil Change Race Championship (Series system, point system) License Test Open Lobby Text / Voice Chat Private rooms Online Photo Album Online Replay Album YouTube replay output Photo Drive (Circuit) Photo stage (Stage Photo mode only) Video output to a PSP or PSP Go® Progressive Download Improved user interface Continuous Play for videos The Museums Custom soundtracks (Use songs from your PS3 hard-drive) Dolby Digital 5.1 and 7.1 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, and the same design concept. The icons change color. Able to track the movement of C0ckpit Camera interface (confirmed in full 3-D. The camera can be fully manipulated and you can opt to have your head tracked by the PSEye) B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT TEH FORZA IS DEFINITIVE. :D
Flopza3 =another defective crap like defective american cars of GM and FORD(downsized massively due to bankruptcy) Nissan makes world's best car. even a maxima is way more reliable than any american garbage car
What you mean the same Nissan which has a bigger deficit than Ford?
deficit or no deficit,Nissan cars are still better overall. That why the BIG three collapse.
It all depends on what criteria you use to judge.
Forza only has 400 cars + DLC compared to 1000 cars in GT5. No thanks,
I wonder what game porsche is saving themselves for...
Forza is NOT missing 600 other cars @ Shadow Flare you need 150 Nissan skyline Models? Need 50 Subaru Modells? Just look on the CAR list of the previous Gran Turismo.. hell.. they listend THE SAME Modell 2W/ 4W as 2 cars! GT5 does the same.. at the end you have maybe 300-400 REAL cars.
but in forza you can customize and body art like crazy. i already made a car in forza with gt5 logo all over it bahahahahah
2WD and 4WD versions of cars may be the same in name, but to drive one or the other you need.......wait for it.....2 DIFFERENT cars. And yes, they are different by definition.
True If Turn10 would listen 2w/4w as 2 different cars they would also have 800 -.- I just watched the car list from the PSP version and i lol'ed.. also IGN pointed out that its really easy to list 1000 cars if you do that they way PD does.
go look at a real car collector and see how many cars of the same model he has, A real petro head would rather have 150 model of skyline than customize it every time he goes for a drive. I'm sorry but your pimp my ride attitude won't take you far in the the real world. @Jolly I'm sorry but if you consider youself a petro head you wouldn't be in this article right now trolling here, if you're a petro head you should know why the difference in models is important,I'm sorry but in the real world you just can't replace certain part of a vehicule just like that everytime you wanna go for a ride This ain't a pimp my ride show where car are modified in less than 30 minutes
I wouldn't want 150 "different" skylines. Also, what about all of the fwd cars that you can add awd or rwd or 3 different styles of engines. One car could equal 9 "different" cars.
I just did a quick google search and couldn't find an official car list for GT5. The only things I could find were wish lists and prologue lists. So....where's you're info from? Do you really think there'll be 300 skylines and 300 suburu's, therefore leaving us with 400 real cars? Don't be an idiot. Skylines are really the only car there are so many variations of and there won't be 300 of them. We're still going to get overall VASTLY more cars then forza 3. And the reason there are variations of cars is because (shocker) they perform differently. Thats what real car enthusiasts enjoy, tuning up cars. Not spending most of their time painting master chief on it
"2WD and 4WD versions of cars may be the same in name, but to drive one or the other you need.......wait for it.....2 DIFFERENT cars. And yes, they are different by definition." So by using your own words, a car model can be the same but if something is changed within the car to change the performace / feel, then it can be listed as a different car..ie. Transmission or 2wd/4wd. So since every car in Forza 3 can be tuned, trannies changed, wheels altered, lowered, weighted changed, transmission changed, change 2wd/4wd, change rear wheel to front wheel drive can i say that every car in forza can be made a different car even if i am using the same model? And since the options are endless with the amount of customerization (Not painting) to change the performance of each car, can i not say then that Forza 3 has thousands of cars since each car can be changed hundred's of ways to perform differently dispite them being the same model? If you are going to stand by your quote, then I am going to stand by Forza 3 has more cars than GT5. @ Disagrees - the disagrees only show how many people CAN'T have an argument and are thus hiding behind their biasness towards Sony. I would like to read why you don't agree.
100% of the cars are REAL in GT. alot of them are froom Tuning Manufactures like Spoon, Mugen, Nisimo, HKS, and a great deal of them are from the designers of the game who worked with some of the Car manufactures like the Citrone (SP?) GT Concept which will be hitting the streets in the few years.
100% of the cars in Forza 3 are real. As well as the parts bought. All cars have certain parts available to them. Forza 3 doesn't allow you to stick an american engine into a European car. All parts from real companies that supply the parts can only be used for the appropriate car. And the example used by Karum says that the car is the same model, just has different drive trans. 2WD/4WD. Again this can be done with the cars in Forza 3. So if something as simple as 2WD to 4WD can be used to represent the same car and be listed as 2 cars, then why can't the same rational be used for the same car in Forza 3? Difference is, Turn 10 allows the user to make the car rather than have the car already done for you.
So, same Make different Model, that's still 2 different cars.
The games looking pretty weak compared to forza
GT5 is realistic. flopza3 is cartoonistic GT5 runs at 1080p. flopza3 720p GT5 has 1000 cars.flopza3 has 400 GT5 has 16 cars per track.flopza3 has 8 GT5 has weather and night racing and head tracking .flopza3 has nothing flopza3 flopped in sales <800K WW LTD. GT5 will easily sell millions ww at launch @truereligion below flopza3 sold 2.5m??? forza3 sold 800k only 175k oc , 30k nov in us. just 300k in uk and <200k rest of europe maybe you are looking at vgchartzzzzz numbers. flopza3 didnt even chart in us let alone ww UC2 topped all the ww sales charts at launch . even in US it sold 575k vs just 175k for flopza3 UC2 might be over 3m now which makes sense since it was on top of all charts However forza3 never charted anywhere besides VGCHARTZZZZZZZZZZ
http://www.vg247.com/2010/0... shows that forza 3 is the 14th best selling title in the uk beating out titles like the multiplatform need for speed shift and re 5 and they were released before forza. Uncharted 2 didn't even make the list of top 20 bestselling titles. http://www.vg247.com/2009/1... and the link http://xbox360.ign.com/arti... shows that forza 3 hit the 1million mark after only one month in retail.
yep.. they needed 5 years for 150 Nissan skyline modells and the other crap.. but the environments are UGLY like hell. They didnt improve anything since GT5P in terms on environments. At CES2010 they didnt even show the DMG modell... i think they took it off. Sry, but this GT will be the biggest FLOP since the playstation brand.. mark my words! 1 Million ppl in EUrope downloaded the worst GT5 demo ever.. i bet they wont buy the final game.
WOW /LOL /HAHAH ARE U GUYS READING THE GAMER zone ? these ps3 fanboys need to be killed off they are so delusional its not even funny saying ruf isthe better porches hHAHAHAHAHAHAH THESE KIDS ARE MAD
@mesh RUF are modified porsches so yes they are better than normal porsches
lol @ PD
lol @ PD? 1000>400, lol at Turn10.
confirmed they will charge for the porsche in a dlc :P
keep crying more bots lool btw why aren't u 2 playing flopza... its too boring is it ? or could it be because it doesn't have the name gaylo on it ? :D :D hahahahah u bots make my d ay
Confirmed the definite Simulator Flop Patchstation3 - it only does Flops in every way
How is it a flop it's not even out yet?
You might as well go down to the street corner next to the sewage pipes and ask that stray dog why he sh*ts all over the place and then comes back to eat it.
Who cares if it has Porsche when it has over 300 versions of Honda Civic?
300? And all are from the same year, look same and have the same features? Dayum ***facepalm***
5 years for what?
Well GT has the superior Porsche - RUF ;) Now go and cry a river haters lololol Here a pic of a RUF, but ya haters gotta know how a Porsche looks like to understand the joke lololol
How many RUF model Porsches are there exactly?
there are eight i believe.