Where are all the console MMOs?

The consoles themselves can do online-this and high-definition-that, broadband has achieved Ron Jeremy levels of penetration, and massively multiplayer games are so firmly established that you could go at them with a nail and the hammer would break. With consoles the way they are, and MMOs the way they are, surely the two should be flooding toward one another like the two sides of the Red Sea when Moses' arms got tired. And yet here we are, still twiddling our thumbs, with a stumpy release list that owes most of its content to the PC's leavings.

[TruthHurts]

MMOs take time.
GREAT MMOs take more time.

[MaalDeJah]

Yeah but no one is actually working on one. Maybe a few are getting put out but thats it.

[Odion]

whoever gets WoW wins all

[MaalDeJah]

Eventually WoW has got to end. I havent played so i really wouldnt know thought. How good is it?

[Lucidmantra]

WOW is good... To put it into perspective, no other US MMO had sold 1,000,000 copies (Lineage in Korea clamed millions of players) but no major US MMO (EQ, AC, EVE, EQ2, AO, etc. etc.) had even 500,000 subscribers. Well WOW has now over 8.5 million people paying $15 per month to play WOW.

The development costs for WOW and the expansion Burning Crusade are stated to be over 35 million dollars. The problem is that very few compnaies have that kind of bank muscle to compete with WOW. WOW can exist for years now with the market level of 100,000-200,000 subscribers due to the amount of money it is making now. Sure there would be server consolidations and the like that happens but the Catch 22 with WOW isnt that it takes forever to get to level 70 it is the fact that once you get there the game isn't even over yet, you can do many many things (arena PVP, high end game raiding, Zone PVP, Battlegrounds, crafting, etc. etc.) There is no doubt WOW is geared toward a wide audience (think... Brittney Spears of MMOs) it isnt that it isn't complicated and strategy, knowing your gear, knowing your goal, and how to play your character make it simple. It is that it doesn't ake you 9 months of grinding to get to an uber level. It is easy to level and pick up but to truely master you will put in those 7 months to be a competative PVPer.

Hope this helps...

- Lucid

[dachiefsman]

I have played WOW for about 7 months....these are my opinions

The GOOD:

The most fun I had was leveling my character.
The new patch made it easier for part-time players <myself> get epic loot.
The game allows for a lot of soloing <ie don't need a party level 90 percent of the time>
The community is excellent <get yourself into a decent guild and your experience will heighten exponentially>

The BAD:
The character customization is lacking <IE to many people look the same>
When you get to 70 getting elite loot is tough when not in a great guild.
People take the game WAY WAY WAY to seriously <getting yelled out for pulling the wrong mob>

My greatest beef: It got old for me fast I have been 70 for about 4 months now and I am bored...done the pvping...crafting....heroic dungeons....karazhan....

My greatest praise: It is a fun game to play with friends who take WOW for what it is a game. I recommend totally if you have never played an MMO.

go to http://armory.worldofwarcra...

look up Natlite on Blackhand server...

[VirusE]

In hell where they belong:)

[Grown Folks Talk]

marvel universe online and a.p.b. for the 360, and the dc mmo on the PS3.

[kewlkat007]

Play World of Warcraft. All my buddies wanted me to get into it, but just don't have the time, so I'm not going to invest the money.
I've seen more Girl gamers playing WOW than playing games on Consoles. All kinds of people play that game, and are addicted, for whatever reasons.

Maybe if it was free I might play. I hear, that PS3 one will be free, so I might check it out when I purchase a PS3, of course I'm in no rush. I think we will see more MMO's for consoles, just like MS is really pushing RTS's on Consoles, eventually once there is a big success, just as FPS has become, we will see more developers take the plunge.

That's all it takes, is for developers to see one succeed and the opportunity for CASH, and count them in, BOOM now you have competition.

[Odion]

excuse me we're at 9 million now and rising

[kewlkat007]

I said "ABOUT" lol, well close enough to get the the point across..haha

[DirtyRat]

NO reason i can think of why an MMO couldn't be done on a console, in fact I'm sure one is for the PS3 in The Agency: http://www.computerandvideo...

But since MMOs center around community you would defo need a keyboard.

[Rooted_Dust]

There is way too much interfacing going on in current MMO's to work on Consoles. The only way it would be possible is with a keyboard and mouse.

[PS360WII]

that mmo are kind of a pc standard mainly becuase all of the moves, spells, equip change, item use, and etc is darn near impossible to implement somewhat ok on a controller. MMO's I hate to say are really a keyboard sort of field. That's why I think with the new keyboard coming our for the 360 controller along with being able to use a regualar keyboard with PS3 will help usher in a way to bring MMO's to the console world.

[_insane_cobra]

This generation's console MMOGs currently in development or already out:

PS3:
The Agency
Free Realms
DC Universe

Xbox 360:
Final Fantasy XI
Phantasy Star Universe
A.P.B.
Huxley
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
The Secret World
Marvel Universe Online
untitled but confirmed Square Enix MMORPG (the PS3 version also a possibility)
Two Worlds (some MMORPG elements)

Multiplatform or unspecified:
Bioware MMORPG
Tom Clancy's EndWar (some MMORTS elements)

So they're coming, it just takes time.

[MaalDeJah]

But it takes time and money to produce one of them.

[hikikimori]

I would NEVER pay money to play a game I already own.
How people went for this concept I'll never know.

[PS360WII]

paying for the MMO is the same concept of Live.

So are you saying why on earth are people paying for Live? No so why is it hard to get the MMO pricing?

[hikikimori]

No I know, but all I am saying is its a sad precedent that these games are successful. Because now they will never be free (most of them anyway).
And its just such a rip off IMO. You pay for the IP, then pay $150+ over a year while playing.
But hey, if you can't beat em, join em.....if you can afford it.
I know I can't. :(

[MaalDeJah]

A bunch of ppl want all that extra unnecesary stuff.

[Eclipticus]

I think City of Heroes/City of Villians needs to come out, with 360 controller, and input device. and support of NCSoft. that would be sweet on xbl. Better than Marvel, since there is less rules and trademarks. imo

[MaalDeJah]

It needs to be free with availability of subscription.