Team Ninja to do more PS3 titles

Ninja Gaiden Sigma director Yosuke Hayashi has spiritedly defended the PlayStation 3 in an exclusive interview with Eurogamer - and all but confirmed that Team Ninja will be working on further titles for the platform.

"As I said, people who complain about the difficulty of creating games for PS3 should get out, right?" Hayashi commented. "While I'm saying that kind of thing, if I get out myself, then what I say doesn't mean anything! So, I should stay - right?"

[goonerfied]

he'll make a brand new ip for ps3, I don't think NG2 will come to ps3.

[goonerfied]

goonerific why are so many people disagreeing with you. the guy himself said it was exclusive for the 360. i won't believe otherwise until it comes out his mouth, but i guess people on this site are just to DAMN sensitive.

[shysun]

Link to where it is exclusive to 360!

[Seraphim]

If I'm not mistaken Itagaki said he wouldn't turn his back on Ninja Gaiden fans. That hardly states the game will remain XB exclusive. In all reality I think Team Ninja is going to quickly find that they have a large fan base on both platforms and decide to go multi w/ NG2. If nothing else I'd be surprised if they didn't at least release 2 at some point on the PS3... Referring to the comment about not turning his back on the Ninja Gaiden fans. If it's not already apparent, as if it wasn't apparent enough at the original release [original xbox release] there's an army of Playstation gamers who are also long time NG fans. I still play the original 2 on my NES at least once a year, and bought my xbox exclusively for Ninja Gaiden...

[D R Fz]

Now before this turns into a flamewar, Xbox and Sony fans remember this generation has seen many titles jump the exclusive list to go multi-platform and Ninja Gaiden 2, confirmed or unconfirmed by this interview, is no exception. Please read this article as a unconfirmed confirmation that the title might be coming to the ps3 as well. Or even better, maybe a totally new multi-platform game for all systems. But it's nothing bad, it just means more people will get to enjoy the game, period. Based on rough estimates, rather than just have 10 million users enjoy it why not 14 million or 21 million (including the wii)? That is Team Ninja's strategy and way of life in this next generation.

[anh_duong]

agreed i am all for multi-platform - the only thing i am against is one manufacturer dominating the market

[CrazzyMan]

sounds super!

[uHuRu]

I truly believe that Ninja Gaiden 2 will be on PS3. worst comes to worst, it will be on X360 first.

also, wooooohoooooooo, my first news.

[sajj316]

I believe that the multi-platform movement will lean them toward this decision. One thing that I do respect about Team Ninja is that they will optimize the software based on the hardware its running on. I respect that ... cough, take note Ubi and EA.

[SimmoUK]

Thankyou team ninja for your commitment to pushing the most powerful system forward, second time around it will be easyer for them good to get a head start on other dev's...

[Xi]

right keep dreaming.

[PS360WII]

Yeah that comment almost, kinda, sort of, maybe confirmed jack...

But hey glad Team Ninja likes working on the PS3!

[anh_duong]

this is a no-brainer.. you don't spend millions investing in a top-notch nextgen gaming engine and use it to produce just one game.. it makes absolute economic sense to release ng2 on the ps3 - especially since they just about to release ng sigma on the ps3.. why bother creating an expensive new ip (mutli-platform saves on developement, marketing and production) when currently the two systems are pretty much complimentary (i.e. few users have both systems).

[Seraphim]

I'd really be surprised if they're actually even creating a new engine for Ninja Gaiden 2. I think working with the original and updating [as they've now done] would be in their best interest financially. Obviously they can tweak the engine to utilize multiple cores and create advanced AI and anything else they wanted to add to make it a little more next gen. But aside from a tricky camera Ninja Gaiden currently has a very usable engine in which they can produce a sequel with...

[Sevir04]

Do your thing... and i'll continue to gobble up everything you make except DOA extreme

[tehcellownu]

Team Ninja Worked with the PS3 hardware and learned how to program it..I dont think they will jus make one game for the Playstation 3 and wasted what they learn from it and never bring another game.Its obvious the NG2 will perhaps come to the PS3..Also in term of power the PS3 have it.. they wasn't able to make it blow up..while the 360 they blew it up a few times..and run out of disk space on just DOA game..I have a big feeling many devlopers will jump to the PS3 as their lead platform especially the one who really want their games to be big and amazing..anyways good news for PS3 owners.

[nix]

wow...! q:

[T_Tokyo2010]

Whatever Team Ninja makes is gold, I love Ninja Gaiden, and what man doesn't like DOA, I really believe they worked very hard on Sigma from the way he is so confidently boasting about it, and welcome any other title that Team Ninja throws our way.

[sandip787]

yipee

[Vash_The_Stampede]

Yosuke Hayashi is a very smart man, if he believes that the PS3 is more powerful then you have to go with it. I dare any 360 fan to say he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[kingboy]

Looks like Team Ninja has really fallen in love with the ps3`s hardware.From Mark Rein to Team Ninja all asking lazy developers to quit b*tching and learn a trick or two.This is the era were the boys are separated from the Men

[Babylonian]

If Team Ninja announced that Ninja Gaiden 2 will be a PS3 exlusive. I think many Xbox 360 owners will not be happy about that...............But I will.

[WIIIS1]

Lol! No one's gonna stop you from having wet dreams! Just remember to clean up when you wake up to the horrible truth.

[BIadestarX]

Let's hope that developers do not listen to Yosuke Hayashi advice.
I think that advice would only benefit him and his company.
If every developer that complained about the PS3 being too dificult to program gets "Out" and stop supporting the PS3... that would be a hell of a lot of exclusive games for the 360. That means no EA, Ubi, and the list goes on... and on... Eventually developers will learn to work with the PS3... Team Ninja unlike other developers only work one project at a time. I don't know if you guys noticed... but companies making exclusive games for the PS3 are doing a better job with the games than those that have to port. This version of Ninja gainden was made only for the PS3.. just like Metal Gear... just like Final fantasy... just like lair... just like Resistance.... what do all those games have in common? They are exclusive games... made only with the PS3 in mind. So, to be fair with other developers that are being hated by developers... it's easier to make a game exclusive to a specific console... and not have to worry about if an effect can be achived on the PS3 and how it can be done.. just because the 360 has it.. and the games must look as similar as possible.
Team ninja for the most part make their games for a single console ala Kojima.. which explain why their games are so great... that's the secret. that's why they don't want to make this ninja gaiden for the Xbox 360.... to prove even further what I am talking about... they didnt even make a ninja gaiden for the PS2 and decided to make it only for the xbox eventhough they would make more money on the PS2 due to the intallbase. This is why I believe Ninja Gaiden to may be an exclusive game to the xbox 360 or the PS3. They don't like their games to be compared. They would be dumb to not make it for the 360 since it already have an stablished fanbase... but if they make it exclusive to the PS3... I wouldn't think is the end of the world.

[TruthHurts]

thats the best comment i`ve ever heard you make.

stay this way.LOL

peace.

[Why o why]

there was no reason for anybody to disagree. good comment bstar, whats happening. I also understand why you wouldnt care if it came out on ps3 only. The game seems a little repetative to me. The xbox 1 was and the ps demo seems the same even on a short demo.

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Whats to disagree with.
The fact that i believe that that was 1 of bstars best comments or that i found the xbox original and the demo for the ps a bit repetative. SHOW YOUR FACE. AT Least explain, just type in the comment box, go on, try a thing.

[Bonsai1214]

the transformation you've gone through in the past month or so is wonderful.. stay this way :D notice your bubble count from 1 to 6 now.. haha

i agree that if they don't bring NG2 to ps3 and sigma sells well, they'll be alienating much of their fanbase. however, a new ip wouldn't hurt either

[DJ]

Keep it up!

[sony4life]

I am speechless about this comment. Stay this way and more good shall come.

[darkvenom]

agreed stay this way,and a bubble for you!

[Rybnik]

Holy Nuts! Bladestar, it does seem you have done a complete 180. I've also noticed this slow change you seem to have gone through.. Your comment is, in my opinion not just the best I've heard you make, but one of the best that has appeared on this entire site. 80% of what is stated on this site is ill-thought fanboy blather. Damn! Thank you, and I agree whole-heartedly with all of what you said. A bubble for you, please keep it up.

[Fart_Bubbles]

"As I said, people who complain about the difficulty of creating games for PS3 should get out, right?"

I think we all know what platform they PREFER TO DEVELOP for, and it aint the scratchbox....lol

and I totally agree with him, we PS3 fans don't need crappy ports, poorly written code or programmers who are still stuck in the x86 architecture.
PS3 is the future, old mentality just makes it look bad and gives ignorant fanboys more fuel to keep running their yaps.

[Odion]

BetaMax was the future too.

[drtysouf21]

Nice!

[predator]

wouldnt get ur hopes up to much about ng2 on ps3, heard it will be showcased along wit doa5 at e3 for the 360 as exclusives, have to wait and see

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Yeah.

[Bloodmask]

not read any of Itagakis interviews....
Team Ninja doesn't do ports. That is why Sigma has been built from the groung up for the PS3. Team Ninja is all about quality. Sigma was solely Hayashis project. Itagaki even stated he only dedicated 1% of his time to it.

There was even an article about how 360 is Itagaki's main development platform....and that his XBOX fanbase shouldn't be worried because he has been hard at work on a sequal of sorts(NG2). So don't ever expect ports from Team Ninja. They would never sacrifice the integrity of their game by making it compete with itself on a rival console. What you may get on PS3 is a spin off later such as Sigma or a new IP, but never a port.

For all the people who have PS3 and have never played the XBOX original don't pass up Sigma. Team Ninja knows how to make a great game.
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Well I realize that it is impossible to state things based on fact bc fanboys will always feel like they are being attacked(I see that people are disagreeing). I'm not saying that Team Ninja won't make PS3 games, they just won't be ports and also they won't be made by Itagaki. So for all you mindless fanboys that just click disagree and leave bad feedback here is a list of all TN games and they are "all" console exclusive.....and I will also give you a link to the interview with Itagaki himself.

DOA 2 Dreamcast
DOA Hardcore PS2
DOA3 XBOX
DOA X XBOX
Rygar PS2
Ninja Gaiden XBOX
Nija Gaiden Black XBOX
DOA 4 360
DOA X 2 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

[Seraphim]

actually DOA 2 was a Dreamcast and PS2 [DOA 2 Hardcore] title. And if I'm not mistaken the PS2 version was in fact a port.

[power of Green]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[power of Green]

TN do not port games they build them from the ground up to take advantage of hardware to get the best product as of right now only the 360 is getting NG2 and PS3 will just as easily get NG2 as the 360 would MGS4.

You people are crazzy if you think they'll release NGS on PS3 and turn around and rebuild it for PS3 just a couple of years later the lead team will be busy as hell with the 360 and the team that did sigma will be working on new games as the lead team will be; with the lead team only focused on the 360 for half a decade lol.

Go play your PS3 and stop worrying about Xbox franchises its like exspecting the lead series of FF to be focused on Xbox first rather then PlayStation lol.

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25 - After seeing the great things they accomplished with Sigma
I would love to see them bring over DOA and Ninja Gaiden 2 (not unlikely considering how great the Sigma engine is). Personally, I want to see Rygar get a next-gen revitalization.

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Itagaki: Ninja Gaiden 2 will make other developers lose their motivation...

^^^You think Sigma will out shine NG2 when TI said home boy did a pretty good job on Sigma?. They're not going to make NG2 on PS3 because they think Sigma's engine is the latest and greatest.

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Its safe to bet MS is working very close with TI and Team Ninja (TI being one of the guys that helped design/create XBOX) with dev support and cash on a Epic scale close to GoW, Halo 3 eventhough for a 3rd party...party. Remember if you read the link #22 posted Team Ninja's not just going to waste their time doing a Sigma on every game that they release on Xbox it was a fluke that gave birth to Sigma We'll see if they have the time in this generation for a PS3 build. Read #22'2 link. I wonder if M Cheif and Markus F will be in the next DOA that would be great Cheif vs Markus.

[DJ]

I would love to see them bring over DOA and Ninja Gaiden 2 (not unlikely considering how great the Sigma engine is). Personally, I want to see Rygar get a next-gen revitalization.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

Amen to that! Cry-baby developers should take heed.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

I'd much rather hear what Itagaki has to say on this matter rather than some flunky because when it comes down to it the only thing that matters is what console Itagaki wants his games on and we all know which console he prefers.

[WilliamRLBaker]

no where in that article does it confirm future ps3 titles, its just a diatribe againest devs that way its dificult to dev for the ps3, and that since he says they should stop whining, then he should stick with ps3 development right?

He doesn't come out and say there will be future ps3 titles, or that team ninja will support it, He alludes to it.

As for that I'm happy either which way, I own all 3 systems and ill get a team ninja game no matter the system its on, as long as its a good game.

[Cool_Mint]

Didn’t Microsoft confirm 4 to 5 exclusive gives will be made for the xbox360 at E3 2005 by team ninja.

[BitbyDeath]

"suggested the game will probably be an Xbox 360 exclusive"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Keyword - "probably"

NG2 will be going to PS3 i have no doubt about it, there's even a chance that the PS3 will be the lead platform since an engine has already been created for it as opposed to the 360.

[23478ueyur_938223]

The thing to consider here, as was pointed out, is that Team Ninja hasn't done a port in the past, they just max out the hardware for whatever they're working on.

The good news is that they will be working on both platforms, so regardless of which games, we can all expect good titles. I've never doubted their abilities, NG1 was their first action type game, and look how well it did.

[BitbyDeath]

So you think that if there was going to be a PS3 version it'd have a seperate development?

I wish all developers did things that way.....

[23478ueyur_938223]

Basically, if they really intended on bringing the same series to both platforms, it'd probably end up being two different games of the same series, if you know what I mean.

That way each caters to the needs and capabilities of each system.

[sadiq]

i love how team ninja likes to make their games on the most powerful system they can and arent money hungry,
history time
when ps2 n GC was only available wat did they amke their games on? PS@ (DOA2)
when xbox was out? all on xbox (doa3, doax, ninja gaiden)
360 out? 360 (DOA4)
when ps3 came out? PS3 fo sho

[MoonDust]

Hopefully it's a good game.

[Bhai]

...Ninja Gaiden 2 ! so refreshing to see some 360 fanboys getting
'burned-up' with jealousy. DMC is not the only biggie on the PS
platform, so it doesn't matter if it goes multi-platform...there are so, so many more from god of war to ratchet to Jak, you name it. But
the only other biggie for MS besides Halo series is almost definitely
been multi-ed, just wait and see. Luving the sensation, tell ya !!!

[Sevir04]

and after traversing 3 malls for a whole day i finally got found the last copy in a gamestop where 3 japs came in seconds after i had the game asking for it... i looked aback as the japanese store clerk pointed at me and told them that i had the last copy for the store in his native tounge... with that said let me begin to give all of you a brief overview of the game.

ok here goes.

the game starts the same way as the demo did but with quite a great deal of noticable changes. for one, once you boot the game up you are greeted with the same start game Mission options Ranking, and a new option called install. in which you install the game to the hard drive. (i installed it and it went on to give me while the installation took place, a brief story of what the game will be based on) after that I went into option

reason being is, for those of you who want this game badly and want to import it from japan but fear it wont work or will only play in japanese cast them into a lake with a boulder chained around it. the game just like the demo supports english and japanese.

Note i highly recommend putting the voicing in japanese and placing thetext and subtitles in english. the japanese voice bring forth much more depth and emotional cling to the story and performance and sound more believable. now lets get to the game.

Chapter 1: way of the Ninja: the first chapter opens the same way as the demo but with many a changes as i mentioned before. for one Ryu's suit that he starts with isn't the blak shine suit you play with in the demo. in fact it's a purple cloth suit, that looks amazing might i add. and all the items you had in the demo aint there as you start with ryu's dragon sword only.

Combat is faster. it seems that they managed to make it even more resoponsive than the demo. everything feels much more smoother... even though the Demo was running at 60fps they managed to make it even faster at least in my opinion and you should notice this from playing it immediately.

viusals stunning to say the least... as a matter of fact Tecmo has even managed to tighten up some of the effects.. the self shadowing has i'mproved and the blood doesn't look like it just floats and stick out in obtuse angles like they did in the demo. the blood sticks on walls and the camera panning has been tweaked some as well.
so the visuals have improved, but not that much you can tell but it isn't by a great deal... which aint bad either.

there are also a slew of new items introduced like the lives of the Gods and the Talisman of Life which ressurrects you from death and extends your life bar respectively. and that pretty much is the first chapter in a nut shell. you face Doku as the boss and that chick runs in and says ur village has been attacked... thus starts Chapter 2.

Now chapter 2: titled the Hyabusa Village, is the Most B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L chapter yet. if you thought the first chapter of the demo was hot Ish.., this totally Pwns it... for all of you with an HD Set 720p-1080p prepare to have your Jaws forklifed off the ground. the enimies here are just so highly detailed as you face of Samurais and and new ninjas that fly and Glow. and horsemans that are on fire. and all absolutely gorgeous stuff. especally toward the end of that Chapter.

Xbox fans who've played the original, remembers that awesome and beautiful CG scene of Ryu facing off all those ninja in the burning house just before facing that dark armor samurai weilding the Dark dragon Sword, well let me say it is here when you jaws will drop to the floor again this time leaving a crater on the floor, because you get to play through this portion of the game as well. this is where Tecmo shows off alot of the brute strenght of the PS3, for one. the embers and burning wood and falling roof and such all look glorious, the lighting is amzing and the cinders and flames burning and whisp and frcker realistclic with flash burst of flames all over happening on screen while you're fighting of 5-6 ninja and samaurai on sreen. when you finally have the bout with the dark samaurai weilding the Dark Dragon sword he kicks your ass.. yeah it's possible to beat him but you just dont have enough life to do it... i got creamed after taking only three slashes ast him. and the chapter ends when your loose.

the start of chapter 3 opens with some really impressive and reworked cgi which at times you cant tell if it's game play or CG rendered in realtime.

RyU starts his Journey for revenge and is on his way to fight off the Vigoor dynasty or something like that on board a blimp like airship.
this is where tecmo rares their heads with their frustratingly sadistic difficulty... after the first chapter and second chapter you are cut off from easy... now you really start dying and trust me you will right ow i'm stuck on Chapet 3 where i have to fight off a sh1tload of very smart ninja enimies and excellent AI they attck and move swiftly, firing bullets and sliting your neck and so forth if your not carefull.. but thats where the dual Swords comes in you find it at this stage. and when i tell you you move even quicker that the demo here. your moves arent as slugish and much more responsive and quick here, iminent that tecmo has done alot of fine tuning before they they released it.

Thats all i have for you all. Chapter three is kicking my ASS and badly, LOL!!! i'm gonna go back and try to finish chapter 3.
So to answer the questions at hand.

Does the game live up to it's devlopers Hype? Fuk yeah it does.

Has it improved on the the Graphics and responive game play? yes, and it's clearly evident. with the little graphic fixs and increase textures and even better self shadowing.

Is it worth buying a PS3 over? well thats arguable, but for tose who looking over the fence. it'll definately make you consider it because it looks amazing and better than the demo, though minute, better is still better.

Is it worth Importing if you cant wait? Fuk yeah it is!!! espcially because it supports english voices and subtitles. Go right ahead head and start looking to purchase it from online retails on the east coast and ask for 2 day shipping.

IS it well worth the Purchase? IF you played the original and want to play it again and you have a PS3 dont wait get it Now! and those who havent. get it Now it'
s an experience like no other.

This is why team ninja and tecmo tell devs and fanbois all around to get out. they know nothing about the PS3, if you dont want to work dont make half assed games for it, man up and deliever. Tecmo's Team Ninja has Crafted a masterpece for the PS3, far from a Hi-def port or rehash of the best XBOX 1 game ever. but a true reinvention.. and with how hard it was for me to get the game when it came out on the 14th over here. this is a clear indication that the PS3 will have contiued support from Team Ninja and the Game has already sold over 190,000 copies and is well approaching the 200,000 mark.

When they release it in the states expect the same if not better sales and a few more PS3s to go off shelves as well because the 20 gigs and 60 gigs were sold out in 2 or the 3 malls i went searching for the game in.

the games are coming.. visually this game pissis over lost planet. not Gears though. it's right now the best looking PS3 game out there and one of the most beautiful games out there for any platform. Sony's PS3 is a Beast and it took a beast of a Dev like Team Ninja to show just a glimps of it. i eagerly await their next title for the ps3 what ever it mayBe.

Ps3 gamer tags SEVIREDgamer and Daisuke-04
enjoy the game when you all get it because it's amazing

[TheRedemer]

man why not the 360 they did so good on ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black why not 360???????? theyd do perfect on it

[icechai]

exactly, the xbox already had a bajillion rehashes of the first Ninja Gaiden game. This game was made to bring in that audience who never owned an xbox (a couple million people) and never had a chance to play through this game. Well for those PS2 owners who moved on to PS3 already (assuming they didn't go multi-console due to funding or fanboyism), this game lets them enjoy Tecmo's pride and joy in the new age of HD television.

[Maddens Raiders]

-- "Let's hope that developers do not listen to Yosuke Hayashi advice." --

Yeah let's hope they listen to yours blade, your the dev, right? Somehow I couldn't help but think you might be less than eager to develop for the PS3 if you were actually a dev. Scary thought really when you get down to it. I mean how many dev's really are partial to a certain console like us fanboys and purposefully slack off during creation while they ask for forgiveness from us later? They've still made a bundle right? Imagine that. I think it's clear to tell who's up to the challenge...yeah?.. any whooo --

-- "If every developer that complained about the PS3 being too dificult to program gets "Out" and stop supporting the PS3... that would be a hell of a lot of exclusive games for the 360." --

You act is if devs have never been challenged by alien PlayStation technology before and come through NICELY in the end. I know you want a lot of games on the 360 like there were on the PS2, but the devs will get their acts together; just a matter of time now.

PlayStation is where it's @. Recent reports have already spoken to the PS3's speed and unique progamming difficulties that will be overcome in the short run vs. the long run [&] the article stated that it would cost dev's no more than programming for the 360.

"Since PS3's Cell processor allows more features -- better physics, more complex graphical processing, lighting or sound -- there is inevitably going to be more cost in supporting those extra features," Sony officials said. "It's not that PS3 is harder to write for, it's just that you can do more with it.

If a game starts life on PS3, then man-hours per feature or costs related to asset production are comparable with industry norms."

"The 360 is a different machine with good, but lower powered hardware in a different architecture. Developers have to view them as two different machines not as a common platform" http://n4g.com/News-45176.a...
Kind of sobering isn't it? It's only going to get better here. Join Us blade. =]

PLAY B3YOND

[IPlayGames]

After all the good things they where saying while making NGS who couldnt see this comming.

If NGS sells out i dont why they wouldnt make NGS2 4 the ps3.

[felidae]

i really love me some ps3.

my 360 is now #2 and my Wii #3

never thought that the ps3 is that amazing. everybody should buy one to get the ultimate experience.

i love you sony - you never let me down.

play games. not consoles!

[badkolo]

In all reality de sit really matter, The only ones that seem to care are kids under the age of 16 and people who don have both systems.

I also understand that not everyone can afford or need 2 systems but if you have both the ps3 ad 360 then why do you care or why doe sit matter what system gets wat games, if you have the priveladge to own both systems then any game that comes out exclusively or timed exclusive is available for you to buy or rent and enjoy, if your a owner of both systems then making any comment such as i knew ps3 would get this game or no way in hell is mgs4 going to the 360 and if it does i will protest on the internets, these comments show your ae and retartedness.

Theres nothing wrong in preffering one system over another nor is it bad that some are loyal to one system becuase the last system hooked them in. So many of you make such a big deal about games being on the ps3 solely or games being on the 360 solely but since you know the wii is not a powerhorse all of a sudden the games appearing on the wii dont matter and are not part of your equation on the system war and never get mentioned in your little battles of which system is getting what game.

Whenever a game or dev is mentioned going fromthe ps3 to 360 or vice a versa the sony defence forse and the xbots cant help but post on it as if it matters in your real lives. Is your xbot life going to fall apart if ng2 is on the ps3 from day one or if it arrives 3 months later, will your sony defense force fall apart if mgs4 appears on the 360 in the same fashion. Will your life become better by defending the ps3 or the 360 as if both sytems are perfect in everyway and your the systems only hope of getting the word out.

Lets be FRANK for a second, any open minded person here can scrutinise the ps3 and how its missing rumble, has a badly implemented online service which lacks a unified friends system ,missing invite abilities and voice chatting on every game, how theres no way of playing your own music ingames, or how theres a lack of games so far and the sonystore is still lacking, sales arent doing well becuase of the 600 price tag and doesnt come with a headset or hd cables. Now anyone can strike back disputin anything i mentioned becuase maybe to some none of those things truly matter, some might say the ps3 has motion so screwrumble, others will say the online is fine becuase its free andhas dedicated servers and the price is high but it includes wifi and blueray and a multi card reader and hd wires canbe found for 10 bucks at monoprice.com.

The same can be said for the 360, it launched with faulty systems, not all of its onine abilities like backround downloading and constant music without pause when starting a game or going into marketplace, live and the 360 dash and marketplace took time and a few spring and fall updates to get where its at, many can say that ms ddnt include the hd with all sku's so they dropped that ball. theres no next gen format so games are limited to dvd9, The controller itself has rumble but no motion and has the worst d-pad ever made and makes some gams hard to play. While i had more games at launch and arcade games only a handfull where good and many needed updates and patches. To play and use the gold features you need to pay 50 bucks and theres no dedicated servers. Then we could then say all the positives to couner the bad stuff, we got hddvd first, we got 1080p first, we got choie and inturn a cheaper system, we got gears which is the best looking gae yet in the first year, 16 games have sold over 1 mill, theres tons of content from demos to arcade games,movies on demand and tv shows plus new game content(some free but most at a charge)so games stay fresh. Live works very well and sets the standard and its unified and you can invite or join anyone plus chat or video chat any time with ease. The 360 has a better interface(dashboard) an works as a media hub much easier, and works with media center very well. That its getting more exclusives and more games this time around.

Guys its just video games and you need to realize that we are all spending money here and we all deserve to enjoy all the games and being a jerk by defending a game appearing on one system and not the other is childish.

[Phantom_Lee]

wall of texts...anyway, I see your point, and I agree...
I think fanboys cant make up their minds by themselves....they need outside forces to tell them that......so when games go exclusive...its like somebody just told them that they made the right choice on the console

[Uganda64]

That, and NGS is selling well according to Japan figures and will easily make profit considering it's a remake. Enough to create an install base for NG2 on PS3 which was the point. I can't believe people didn't see this coming.

Like so many others, I didn't have an Xbox, so I missed out on the critically acclaimed NG series. Now I can experience it, and I'm happy about it.

In fact, it's rumoured in Famitsu that there's an exclusive DOA game coming to PS3 too. I have no doubt future DOAs will be on PS3 too though.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

If it were 360 fans wanting MGS4 PS3 fans would say look all "xbots" want Playstation games but now they are in here creaming there jeans with this news. What hypocrites you guys are and you know which ones I'm talking about because not all of you are like that just the ones who sign petitions and hang out at SDG making sh!t up.

[gunnar2906]

It is the point.
It developed games for the top consoles available. At least it was said so. After XBox or XBox360 release they were at the top. Now TN has the alternative console. And what is the most important - Japanese one.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Clearly stupid or soo ignorant that I think your just zombies.

Of course you will all again worship Sony's stinking feet by them saying 'Oh well you see we got more power and stuff and games will look better blah blah blah blah'

Sony could turn around tomorrow and say: 'Well you see we are the best company on the planet for games, we have more stuff than the 360 you see'

Err see anything wrong there?? Its the same as Microsoft saying: 'Nope no problems with the 360 its 100% perfect' ERR NO!!

What you people need to sort out is that a company will ALWAYS back up its own product MAJOR DUH!!!

Sony just want you to believe in their nonsense because they know they have no where the same amount of games as the 360 and its not appealling to the mass market because of its price! Not everyone needs all that kit in the PS3! Gamers need GAMES!

I own both the 360 and PS3 but am just waiting on some kick ass games - like Sigma for PS3 and like Mass Effect for 360.

The PS3 yes has power BUT its graphical capabilities are no where near the offering of what the GPU in the 360 has sorry but this is FACT! Its like night and day you cannot deny the 360 of actually having a far superior GPU!

At the moment the 360 is the best console of choice for GAMING offline and online along with better functionality for media support, music etc.

The PS3 will pick up eventually but for now it just needs devs getting used to what it can do and I reckon by next year we will see large improvements - Hopefully!

Dont ever take things that companies say for gospel especially Sony! Look at all the hopes and promises they gave and still to this day for some strange reason you have Sony fans being extreme loyalists!

Tell me what are you playing at the moment Sony fans? I bet £1000 you are not having anywhere near the same fun as 360 gamers actually I bet £10,000!

[anh_duong]

people might complain about programming for the cell but it looks like multi-core programming is the way forward. technology leaps are now being made in the area of multi-cores and not hertz. the problem of multi-core programming is not just confined to the domain of the ps3 but also in the much bigger and more developed pc arena.

the majority of pc applications are still unable to run to their full potential in 8 core setups. everyone is learning to fully optimise complex programs in multi-core setups. the most complex codes are normally computer games and hence these progams will provide the toughest task for programmers used to dealing in single or even dual core setups. the relationship between complexity and number of cores is non-linear - and when you reach the level of eight cores the problem is many orders of magnitude more complex than single core."Software that can take advantage of even four processing cores is pretty rare and those that use eight are even hard[er] to come by," ( pc perspective 1st june 2007 http://www.pcper.com/articl... ). no one doubts the power of these multi-core core processors but, as the author of the above article mentioned, without optimised software they could even run slower than the fewer core variants - the same is obviously true of coding for the multi-core ps3.

however, it is safe to say that, unless technology takes a drastic turn, to learn to program well in multi-core setups now is a wise investment for the future since in a decade time 16/32 (or even more) cores will be the norm in both gaming and desktop computing environment.

what can sony do in this context? it is certainly wrong to pin the blame at developers since this is like pinching the nose to spite the face. the solution is to make life easier for the developers by educating and supporting (development kits/firmware & psn upgrades that support gaming infrastructure) them. it is safe to say that ms is way ahead of sony on this one but i think the good thing is sony is gaining some humility and have learnt to listen and respond more than they ever have done.