There's this big misconception out in the wild that games made exclusively for the PS3 don't sell. That's a sad lie and we have seven pieces of evidence to prove it:
..Killzone 2 with more than 1.8 million users online
it actually shows how untruthful it is, first it was 'no games' 'too expensive' 'multiplats are 99% better on 360' 'graphically equal' but as time has gone on and each one of those 'statements' have been nullified we are now down to the bare bones for 360 fanboys which is where the nonfactual comments come in which is quite sad and shows how immature certain gamers and media sites can be
so lets put it together ps3 have 1: hardware sales 2: better software ratio attachment rate(more percentage of the user base of ps3 buy games than 360 and thats a fact) 3: better and higher quality games 4: quantity quality games 5: cheaper 6: free online 7: multiplatofrm games 60% perform better than 360 8: much better graphics 9: and even better software sales, because there is more option and ps3 user base are not all fanboys(like some others) so when an exclusive released they dont all jump on it!! ps3 owners have more options than 360 owners! beside, only shooting games sells very well on the 360 since most 360 owners are die hardcore shooting fans!! and ps3 is set to dominate like at least ps1 did!!
http://www.sanfranciscosent... Such a slow month, that people have to approve crap like this instead of interesting news. For the past few months, the most popular articles on this site have been lame attempts by immature twerps to make themselves feel better about a hunk of plastic they purchased years ago. I used to hate those guys who bought consoles on launch day and smashed them to bits with sledgehammers in front of anxious lines of customers. But now... I see their point.
I remember NPD for Nov 2008, LBP sold 200,000 copies for the month and was immediately labelled a flop. Now the game's nearly sold 3 million copies though =)
youre exactly right. PS3 games have legs. People have so many choices that they have to purchase games way after their release date just so they have time to finish recently purchased games. I make the mistake of buying them as they come out -_- I have 20+ games and it's so hard to finish a game knowing I have other games sitting there waiting to be played...so i end up doing an endless rotation haha... but yeah...PS3 games are abundant. 360 has no games! lol
The media expects AAA titles to hit 8 million or more sold before they call them successful. In the end, the truth of it all is that even AAA titles that sell over 1 million are truly successful and should be given credit for their success.
The only important thing is that PS3 Games are Quality games, have legs and sell well, doesn't matter how much the every year shooter sell on the first day
If they believe no one else is enjoying it, it makes them feel better that they aren't either.
the funny thing about this article is that every game they are using was bundled with the ps3. not saying ps3 games don't sell. but they don't sell as well as they should. @ disagreer what game on there hasn't been bundled?
@vega Its true most of those sales are bloated because of bundles but the same goes for 360 and wii games. I will copy and paste my post from below. PM Track Ignore11.2 - Games that reached 10 million on the wii: (6) Wii Sports Wii Play (25 million!) Wii Fit (23 million!) Mario Kart (20 million! - Best selling racing game of all time) Wii Sports Resort Super Smash bros wii Games that reached 5 million on the wii: (6) Super Mario Galaxy (8.5 million) New Super Mario Bros (8 million) Mario and Sonic at the olympic games Wii fit plus Mario part 8 Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Games that reached 3 million on the wii: (8) GH III (4.5 million) Links Crossbow training Animal Crossing Carnival games GH World Tour Big Brain Academy Lego Star Wars Kung Fu Panda Games that reached 10 million on the 360: (1) Halo 3 Games that reached 5 million on the 360: (6) COD MW2 COD MW1 GTA 4 COD WaW Gears of war Gears of War 2 Games that reached 3 million on the 360: (6) Assassins Creed (4.7 million) Halo 3 ODST (4.5 million) GH III FOrza 2 (4 million) Indiana Jones Fable II Games that reached 10 million on the ps3: (0) N/A Games that reached 5 million on the ps3: (3) GTA 4 COD MW2 COD MW1 Games that reached 3 million on the ps3: (6) MGS 4 (4.5 million) COD WoW Resistance Assassins Creed Motorstorm GT5 P Arguing over whether the ps3 or 360 selles games more is really irrelevent compared to the wii. But if you must then the ps3 doesn't have the huge selling games of its competitors but it can easily compete with the relatively lower big selling games. The wii however is king no matter how you spin it.
PS3 has more games to buy! Simple as that! With 360 you have to wait till November to buy games, at which point there are only 3 and what are you going to do, not buy games? It is practically a feeding frenzy! I really can't buy all the games I am interested in on PS3; There are just too many. Console A has 30mil users and 2 exclusive games a year! Console B has 25mil users and 7 exclusive titles a year! It is like 360 owners like/are proud of having only 2 exclusive titles a year. This is particularly strange given the low quality of multiplatform games this gen!
PS3 exclusives don't sell as well. No one is saying they don't sell, but there's definitely something to be said when the top 5 exclusive 360 titles have sold better than the top PS3 exclusive.
360 exclusives sell better for a couple of simple reasons the main one being fanboys buying it simply because they are fanboys. You think everybody who bought Halo 3 actually played Halo before? Or really even liked the game? I doubt half Halo players even like Halo. I'm not saying it wouldn't have sold a good few million but in reality them sales were fanboy sales with the hype massively helping it. People here Halo and go nuts not even knowing if its any good. The second reason is bundling MS is the KING at this. with the RROD especially early in the consoles life the arcades were selling like wildfire as replacement consoles not only making the 360 console sales numbers a complete and utter lie but included with them arcades were free copies of any game MS wants to boost sales of to make its console look good including Halo 3. I know somebody with 2 copies of Halo 3 because of this very reason. Of course they all end up in trade bins. You look at the trade section of any shop. the game most featured? Halo and not 3/1 like sales would suggest more like 50/1 compared to any other game.
You really are biased vhero arent you. SO giving games with a console is bad now? Jesus. Here in the UK the ps3, wii and 360 can all be bought with 4 games coming with the console. Its the retailers that decide what they want to push.
I buy the PS3 exclusives on a regular basis because they are always awesome games. Infamous, Killzone2, and Uncharted 2 all in 2009 prove my point, and that is just a few games. It's a good time to own a playstation
there are many factors to this one of them is diversity and the diversity of the PS userbase, you look at the 360 whose userbase is made up of frag heads, something like gears ,halo and cod will sell 5 million in a week but its not like that with the ps3 not all ps3 owners are intetersted in games like killzone 2 , resistance 2 or mgs 4, and never bought those games ,but those same people bought uncharted 2, infamous, LBP,valkyriya chronicles the day those games came out .Also ps3 games sell at a very slow rate i mean this leaves the impression on a lot of gaming media to think that those games are a flop, people said that about killzone 2 now look at it just under a year and already its sold over 2 million by the end of this year it will reach 3million promise you i mean is killzone 2 still a flop now that its nearing 3million, same with uncharted 2 it will most likely sell 3-4 million by the end of the year i mean LBP is nearing 3 million already is that game still considerd a flop? Slow sales and diversity thats all it is. Something like FF13 will most likely reach 5 million on the ps3 by the end of the year it will probaly sell better on the ps3 than on the 360, GT5 a huge system seller will probaly sell 10 million by the end of the year and it will do circles on forza 3 i suppose that games gonna be considerd a flop right?
It's not a bad thing to bundle games. But don't try to use bundled games Like they are selling like hotcake. When they aren't. And it doesn't mean Its convincing to but anything. It could simply mean that retailer have games they can't move. So they are giving them away. Just to get rid of copies of games collecting dust. I don't know where you get the idea like I haven't playing my 360 in like two years. Excuse me I have to laugh at that one. Sorry little boy. I've been playing 360 everyday. To bad ps3 doesn't have anything interresting. Else I could help with some sells. Since I actually do but games. Uncharted2 I rented. KZ2 I sold after 3 days. Infamious waas worth the buy after I played the demo. Yet I've had more fun with multi-plats and a few 360 exclusive. So what are you talking about.
i bought my ps3 solely for the exclusives, i havnt had it long, i got the slim at launch, but ive bought six games so far, all but one are exclusives. sure they may not sell as well as some 360 exclusive games, but aslong as theres games like uncharted and MGS4 to keep me entertained im happy.
They don't sell at Halo 3/MW2 levels. They don't sell well the first day or week. That's the real issue.
If you want Halo/Mw2 levels, then wait for GT5,because GT is the only Sony franchise that sells on that level. Just like Halo is the ONLY Microsoft franchise that sells 'on that level'
I don't want to defend any side, I don't care who's winning or who is losing as long as all sides provide good games to compete each other, but I think Halo 3 flawed our perception of success. Few games manage to reach the million milestone, 2 millions is even harder. Fight Night Round 4 hardly reached it, Forza 3 as well, Motorstorm Pacific Rift didn't even touch the million, neither did Ninja Gaiden 2, Mass Effect sold a bit more than 2 millions, both Left 4 Dead only sold around 2 millions on 360, etc... So if such games barely pass 2 millions, which games can be considered as successful if we take Halo 3 as a reference? Assassin's Creed is not successful then, it "only" sold 8 millions, Fallout 3 sold only 4.5 millions on consoles, Bioshock only did 3 millions on console, etc... The only games that can be considered as successful if we take the Halo 3 reference are GTA IV with around 14 millions on consoles, Modern Warfare 1 & 2 with 13 and 14 millions on consoles. So taking Halo 3 as a reference for sales cannot be good. Yes, Halo 3 sales are extraordinary, but they are a world apart to the market. If we had to talk about success, then Fable 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Gears of War are major success, because they sold around 4-5 millions without Halo-like marketing campaign.
Sony games tend to sell over a long period of time, unlike Micorosft games that seem to sell fast and then die quick. I have theory as to why this is but it is just a theory and I don't really have a way to prove it, so it really is upto people here to either agree or disagree. We already know that the 360 has a younger userbase than the Playstation 3, and that when a new game is released children up to the age of 16 will want that game straightaway. Whether they get this through their allowance or via their parents is up for debate I suppose, but I remember when I was a child I had to have the game as soon as it came out. The thing is, after the initial release the sales will quickly dry up because everybody who wants the game has already bought it. Whereas on the Playstation 3 with it's older install base, people are more willing to wait to get a game until it has either dropped in price because we don't need to be the first the complete it. We can wait until bills have been paid off, because they will always come before games. Or we will buy the kids their game because they have been asking for it which means we have either wait to get our game or will just play the multiplat on their 360, because the begged for it, no point in us buying it again. But with the PS3 exclusives, we can wait, and that is why the Sony titles appear to be steadily growing in sales. But I can assure you, they will reach high numbers it will just take a long time to get there, at which point Sony doesn't mind because that is how it has been since PS2 days. Alot of us were students then and had to wait to buy the games.
"Sony games tend to sell over a long period of time, unlike Micorosft games that seem to sell fast and then die quick"-halo 3 says hi. plus i don't see any of sony exclusive still selling months to years after there release.if you know one name it. "We already know that the 360 has a younger userbase than the Playstation 3, and that when a new game is released children up to the age of 16 will want that game straightaway"- news flash... theres kids on all systems. so this applys also to ps3. and the fact that the ps3 doesn't come with a mic. doesn't mean annoying kids don't exist. "Whereas on the Playstation 3 with it's older install base, people are more willing to wait to get a game until it has either dropped in price because we don't need to be the first the complete it"- whatever help you sleep at night there buddy. i guess those older people you are referring to don't play games also. being as sony exclusive aren't selling that great. and the games in this article are bundled games. the reason why sony games don't sell as people would like for them too. is because sony don't advertise,promote,hype their games. look at the ps2. sold 150 million systems. yet gta,gt are the only games that sold over 10 million copies. i don't know if sony know how to sell these games or just don't care if people will buy them are not. sonyfanboys claim ME was a sells flop. because it didn't sell halo numbers. yet it wasn't bundled. so by the regards. it did well for a new IP from bioware.plus MS gets behind dev's when i comes to marketing games. at least far better than sony. stop with the excuse that kids is the reason why MS games sell better. the truth is. sony needs to do a better job in moving games. @rezenu i completly understood what he was saying. as well as anyone reading it. he's making lame excuses as to why 360 games sell as apose to ps3 games. it's B.S. and you know it. so lets stop with the "kid" arguement and let stop with all the other B.S. ok. he doesn't have a clue as to what he's talking about. so he's pulling S##t out his @ss as a reason to why.
You completely missed the point of what reddragan was trying to say and instead turned this into a war. What's with the hatred of the PS3? Can't both systems coexists without fanpeople terms? @ edit: That's why it's called a 'theory'? You know, something that has yet to be proven true? He's just stating an opinion as to why PS3 games sell the way they do. He didn't say his comments were true. That proves you didn't read what he said thoroughly and are just showing immense hatred towards the PS3 for whatever reason. Let me ask you something-Does a game have to sell five million copies in one day to be a success? How do you define a game? I'm just curious about this whole sales talk. I mean, since when did gamers become armchair analysts?
@ Sangria FYI: Motorstorm Pacific Rift sold 1 million shortly after a month of release. http://playstation.joystiq.... One of the most underrated PS3 exclusives and is one of the top 3 games that I played the most this generation.
@Vega75... First off, this is the gamer section. What you wrote belongs in the Open Section so take you crap there mate! Secondly, what I wrote is my opinion and is also most likely to be correct. The PS3 is the console with the older audience, and the Xbox 360 is console with the younger audience. In no way at all did I disrespect any of the two different audiences, in no way did I try to shout down any of the two different consoles. If you have a problem with me, you PM me and if we both live in the UK... we'll sort it out.... MATE!
It seems as if there's plenty of cowards on this site. If you disagreed with me, give a reason why. I read Reddragan's comment as an opinion.
I don't understand the hatred and banter being spread around regarding which system sells more and has better games and blah blah blah blah. Both the Xbox360 and PS3 have their share of great games and exclusives. I am fortunate enough to own both systems and use each one pretty much equally. If you troll and fart around on forums trying to make the impossible point of which is better you are not a real gamer and need to STFU. I learned my lesson not to engage in such crap talk living through the era of the Sega Genesis and SNES.
Well, redragan-what i think backs up the "older demographic" claim about the PS3 is the way multiplatform games with a long PS history have done better(either by attach rate or in total, all out worldwide sales)on the PS3 than the 360. RE5,TR:U and SF4 all fit that pattern in, I think selling more copies worldwide on the PS3 and you could add both DMC4 and GTA4 as games that sold to a higher percentage of PS3s solfd at the time than to 360 owners at the time(as then the gap was bigger I expect). this suggests to me that a lot of people buyuing Ps3s are older gamers and have a history with these series from PSx and PS2 days, isn't that a fair point? They're also a fair spread of tjhe genres while the two highest selling 360 games(exclusive wise) and four if you count MW1 and 2 are shooters which I feel is largely the Halo effect which means a whole lot of 360 owners are Halo fans first and also big shooter fans. these two thuings (the older PS3 demo graphic and the shooter crowd on 360) have been way overstated, imo, but there's an effect there and it's undeniably affecting sales as we see them and means the PS3 userbase is a less shooter heavy and slightly older brigade on average and goes a long way to explainuing some of the sales foibles we see-though, undoubtedly, the difference in marketing between sony and MS is an equally large issue and something Sony still need to look at as they just don't support their devs as well as MS do multi plat devs!
first off 1) i don't have a problem with you. just your "theory" which has so many holes in it. i'm about to make a sandwich and your "theory" reminded me to put swiss cheese on it. 2)your thoery should have some facts to back up your claim. so that it has some truth to it. not something that can be easily discredited. like a link,source,poll,survey,ect. yours has none. i can easily say. well if ps3 has an older audience. they must be casuals or movie buffs. since they don't buy alot of games. how much truth is in that. you say 360 games start fast but slow down later. while ps3 start slow and sell over a long period of time. again where is your proff of this. it seem more like of your opinion then it does a theory. example: in my opinion. i think the ps3 has a more mature audience. as they tent to buy more mature games and sony makes more mature games. while 360 games are more aimed at the younger audience. thats an opinion. @rezenu "Let me ask you something-Does a game have to sell five million copies in one day to be a success?"- are you asking me for reel. or isthis a trick question. answer- there isn't a game out( past or whatever)that has sold that many copies in a day. and if it does. then my hats off to the dev. "How do you define a game?"- gameplay,fun factor,replayabillty,value,con trolls. that i look for in a game. not a score,not sales,not graphic. i have played many games. some that may not have had the best graphic. but i still had fun playing it. we all here know that some games get sores they don't deserve. and some games that should have gotten better scores than they did. so that why game rating are BS. how do you define a game? is it based off graphic? a rating? maybe you only like first party dev's? just asking
The theory makes some sense...although not supported by proper data...so here is a link to a site that reported the Nielsen Media Research findings on the usage demographics of all three systems. http://gamer.blorge.com/200... If you don't feel like clicking I'll sum it up with this: Wii---males aged between six and 11, and females aged between 25 and 34. 360---males aged between 12 and 17, and females aged between 25 and 34. PS3---Both males and females saw the largest usage amongst the 18 to 24 age range. I REALLY don't care about sales, as long as my favorite IP's continue to get the support that they need for the next iterations. However, there must be a reason for this "gap" in initial sales between the 2 systems. Why not offer up a theory. According to this data, the Wii and 360 demographic would be more prone to the "impulse" or "initial" buy. Not saying that there aren't several "tweens" that would as well with the PS3. But, that 18-24 age group is more likely to be occupied with life issues (that have an effect on cash flow) and might not be the ones waiting at midnight launches. Just a thought!!! Either way...to each his own....GAME ON!!!
the proof is this....... 4.not one of sony's in-house developers closed during the worst recession in years based on game unit sales. 1.not one developer who works for sony has stepped forward and said sony sucks as a publisher. 5.the games sell well enough that exclusive developers are making sequels or new IPs when the previous game didn't sell 10 million or 5 million. 3.sony's games are advancing foward with 1080p titles,40/60/256 players,3D gaming,motion control instead of being stagnant. 2.sony doesn't seem to be bothered.and are allowing great developers like the ICO team make artistic games when sales would be considered to be a flop compared to others.leaving gamers who look forward to visionary masterpieces to salivate thinking about release dates. 6.even when developers leave the company like jaffe,they end up still making games for sony anyway.at least THOSE THAT MATTER. **NOT IN ANY ORDER FOR ANY PS3 FAN TO CARE ABOUT SALES LIKE THOSE OTHER GAMERS DO**
Moderate sales keep a company pushing harder and harder. Massive sales give developers a comfort zone.
Very true, and its because the PS3 has so much variety that most games sell low at the start but picks up in sales over time. You can't put a lifespan on great games, even if a year has passed people will still buy it just because its so damn good.
I wish we had just fifty or sixty more FPS games though, I don't have enough! ICO = WIN Guerrilla = WIN ND = WIN Insomniac = WIN 4 WINs = Quad-Win Domination!!!
If Massive sales give developers a comfort zone. Then Bungie would never have left.
This is the best point: "Sony doesn't seem to be bothered.and are allowing great developers like the ICO team make artistic games when sales would be considered to be a flop compared to others.leaving gamers who look forward to visionary masterpieces to salivate thinking about release dates" This is just GREAT, thanks to that Team ICO can make Amazing Games and don't be bothered about the sales and we have a great Variety of games
Sony caters to customers who are gamers and play games! Microsoft has customers who are analysts and play sales! Sony cares about gamers while Microsoft cares about sales! It is probably clear now that Bungie just wanted to try making another game and taking the time to do it well and MS wasn't having that! MS probably only let them go because they were going to lose all their staff anyway; No creative outlet in a creative career choice!
Comfort zone proven (perhaps even too comfortable). I agree with everything you said.
Not really...Bungie KNOWS where it's bread is buttered...and so does MS. They have a great partnership that basically gives BUNGIE the freedom to choose if they would like to go multiplat with their new IP's. Thus, the opportunity to make more money. MS keeps the sacred HALO for their coffers and everybody is happy. It's a great example of mutualistic symbiosis in business.
360 fanboys say so P.S speaking of fanboys, Where is Bungie (that guys funny)
bots.. ps3 soldiers enjoy not sales but the quality of exclusives of sony ;) quality>>> sales fact.
There's a big difference between being a bot and being a droid. A droid is an advanced technology device with feelings, reasoning and love, whereas a bot is a bot, made with scraps and nuts. Therefore, the droids will always have the favor of the people. Long life to the droids!
You are the two most pathetic individuals I've seen in a while.
Thanks! That's the most beautiful thing a bot has ever said to me!
When you look at how Killzone 2 did (only around 2 million copies) and how Infamous(around 1 million copies) did, I can understand where the claim comes from. Both of those games are great and few people bought them. I mean, Sony wanted Killzone 2 to sell like MGS4; I don't think it has reached even half that. I can point to MGS4 and Uncharted 2, but few PS3 exclusives sell "great". R2 hasn't broken 2 million copies, neither has Heavenly Sword, Valkyria Chronicles, or Ratchet and Clank Future. How about instead of being defensive, why don't we try to convince others to buy these great games? Shoot, I still haven't picked up VC! It's only 20 bucks now!
Those games were launched within 2 months of each other right on the heels of LBP, VC, Motorstorm:PR and Resistance 2 and still Killzone 2 launched around six months after MGS4. Which of those games sales would Sony have sacrificed so Killzone 2 could sell MGS4 numbers, in less time than MGS4 has been out. When has any big 360 exclusive released within a year of another? Yet, all those games went on to sell 1+ miliion and all those developers are planning sequels!
its just a stupid defense the xbox fanboys chose, I dont even know why its an argument, the PS3 outsells the 360 thats the main thing!
The main thing is that the PS3 is a better piece of hardware with better quality games - the numbers of hardware/software sold are irrelavent to the PS3 experience.
I thought the main thing was that we all enjoy the games we play, irrespective of what console we happen to own?
^THIS. Could you imagine this place if everyone just talked about games they enjoy instead of console wars. I'd actually post alot more >_>
You were the worst fanb*y on this site when Ghostbusters released. Do you remember that?
PS3 owners don't buy games... they only watch blu-ray movie films.....
for the hd-dvd addon
We do both actually. It's pretty sweet. Modern technology. Gotta love it. ;-)
LOL ! Don't beat a dead horse Once I went to Fry's Electronic and I saw some HD-DVDs for $4 LOOOL !! All of them in the bargain bin looking unorganized. I bet the store manager must be thinking, why can't we give this piece of craps away so we can use the space for something more useful ? Once again, LOL !! On topic: PS3 exclusives sell well enough for the developer to plan and make sequels. Do we need more proof ? R2 isn't selling so well according to media's view but that doesn't stop Insomniac to make the sequel, right ? And where is Gears of War 3 again ? Just as I thought
Bill gates buys lots of copies for himself so that the console looks better
theres only 5 pieces of evidence there lol or am i just missing the other 2?
since they all seem to guarantee sequels. I must admit that I often do not understand why certain PS3 exclusives do not sell more than they are doing right now, but I do know that they are generating such a buzz among gamers, because of their quality, that I think that now the install base of the PS3 consoles is growing rapidly, future sales of exclusives will increase accordingly. I short, PS3 exclusives are doing just fine according to me.
Games that barely reached 2 million on the 360: Mass Effect Bioshock Games that failed tor each even 1 million: Ace combat 6 Lost Odyssey Blue Dragon Star ocean Tales of vesperia Kameo Banjo Kajooie
All 360 fans need to read the above post which proves not everything sells well on the x360, infact the same game TOV came to PS3 later and already has sold just as much.PS3 caters to a wide range of users, X360 caters to people who love shooters (as proved by halo, mw2, bioshock, gears as they are the games that have sold better than most games on the X360)
Games that reached 10 million on the wii: (6) Wii Sports Wii Play (25 million!) Wii Fit (23 million!) Mario Kart (20 million! - Best selling racing game of all time) Wii Sports Resort Super Smash bros wii Games that reached 5 million on the wii: (6) Super Mario Galaxy (8.5 million) New Super Mario Bros (8 million) Mario and Sonic at the olympic games Wii fit plus Mario part 8 Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Games that reached 3 million on the wii: (8) GH III (4.5 million) Links Crossbow training Animal Crossing Carnival games GH World Tour Big Brain Academy Lego Star Wars Kung Fu Panda Games that reached 10 million on the 360: (1) Halo 3 Games that reached 5 million on the 360: (6) COD MW2 COD MW1 GTA 4 COD WaW Gears of war Gears of War 2 Games that reached 3 million on the 360: (6) Assassins Creed (4.7 million) Halo 3 ODST (4.5 million) GH III FOrza 2 (4 million) Indiana Jones Fable II Games that reached 10 million on the ps3: (0) N/A Games that reached 5 million on the ps3: (3) GTA 4 COD MW2 COD MW1 Games that reached 3 million on the ps3: (6) MGS 4 (4.5 million) COD WoW Resistance Assassins Creed Motorstorm GT5 P Arguing over whether the ps3 or 360 selles games more is really irrelevent compared to the wii. But if you must then the ps3 doesn't have the huge selling games of its competitors but it can easily compete with the relatively lower big selling games. The wii however is king no matter how you spin it.
That must have taken quite some time to compile, but all that it tells me is that list includes just one wii game that I would like to play. Mario kart is probably also the worst racing game of this generation in every respect, the AI rubberbanding takes the cake. And the other lists simply show that MGS sells as much as Gears, Halo sold a bit more than the usual GT game, and sales of CoD/GTA/Assasin creed are in line with console install base (360 is about 1.5x in western countries, and was close to 2x till 2008). Its just that MS has rushed out with shovelware like Halo 3 or Gears 2, poorly made sequels with marginal gameplay or graphics improvements, coupled with severe issues such as host lag / online glitches in Gears, while PS3 studios have taken the time to create far more polished games such as MGS, KZ2 or UC2
Those plus 2 gears and 2 Halo's are the entire 360 non casual exclusive lineup for the entire 4 years! That is like one year for PS3 and Sony has two other consoles on the market! Not to mention like 4 of those are going or went multiplat!
That was so true. Good stats. @ mint royale 360 has a bigger install base and so does the Wii. So it should come as not shock that those games have sold more. The debate is not about if the 360 sells more games. It is about the rumor that no one buys PS3 games which is factually wrong.
Software ratio goes to xbox, not that i care really... Im a 360 owner, but want a PS3, not only for killzone 2 but for blu ray, it's healthy to have 2 different consoles it makes the others raise there game even higher. 360 is a great console, all your friends have one, if you worked for a satelite company, heating or a job where you have to go to peoples homes to work, you will see that every 6 or 7 homes at least 3 of them have a xbox 360, only every other day do you see a playstation 3. As for failure rates, sony are having issues still with older consoles. Online, im not the only one who thinks live is better, it's microshaft, they know a thing or two about interwebz and community (why havent they got Ie8 on the system yet i dont know, they say it's all about choice, give us the choice then) Although, with live being so good it makes every update for sony's console a little bit better, therefore there will always be the catch up scenario. Drakes fortune 2 although a very clever and graphically excellent show piece, it just hasnt got that clout that say Halo or Gears of War has, yes it may be a better looking game. People just love Halo for some reason, you guys can shout at how bad it is, but it's not as half as bad as you guys think, go and tell the millions of people who purchased and play online. Bungie are master at story telling, big epic fantasy space battles, one man to save us all, it's a story i like.
Sales don't matter to me. When I buy a shirt I don't care who else bought the same shirt. In fact, I hope nobody does. It's absurd when you see more than 1 person running around with your shirt on. Aside from that fact, though, I could care less if a game sells 10 copies or 10 million copies. If it interest me I'll buy it and love it. I'll even tell people how great it was in hopes they'll buy it but if they don't it doesn't cheapen the experience for me. Best movie of 2005 was "The Ice Harvest" how many of you even know what that movie is? Better yet, how many read the book it was based on? See my point? Go buy the games that interest you and leave the numbers to Sony. If the games didn't sell well we wouldn't have so many of them coming out, think about that. Motorstorm Little Big Planet Ratchet & Clank Resistance Killzone 2 Infamous Uncharted Soccom & about 10 others all have follow ups in the works. Do you think these developers and Sony would sink millions into development just because a small "niche" group of gamers who get it want them? F*CK no! They're in development because they made money and there is a demand for them, and, along with that, a window of growth for the industry. Get real and stop being blind system jockeys.
Again, why does a game have to sell five million a day just to prove it's greatness? I never understood the concept of sales. Sales talk barely existed when I started playing videogames. Playing the games and enjoying them was what mattered. Only fanpeople would sit there and judge a game by sales instead of how good it is. If you go by sales, then Wii Fit is the greatest thing ever made.