Xbox Evolved writes: "Speaking on the latest 4 Guys 1UP Podcast, David Ellis states Halo: Reach is already playable from beginning to end. "
Nice. So if development does end July that leaves at least 2-3 months for them to just fool around with and test extensively. Then got the beta in the spring so multiplayer should run pretty smooth without the outbreak of glitches like some games (MW2). Still surprised how Halo 3 needed no update to this date to fix any glitches or exploits. Unlike Halo 2...ulgh. SUPER JUMP!
All Halo games are finished from a couple of months to a half year early so this is not really surpising, wasn't Reach playable at E3. Can't wait for the Reach Beta.
True, Bungie has really turned things around this generation, the few months they will have before launch can be put to bug fixing, polishing, etc.
Yep, I hope they get the gameplay darn near perfect.
More time to polish the game and fix any issues. What's the release date? Kinda of like late 2010 or summer 2010? Has Bungie said anything about it?
Nah reach wasn't playable at E3. No doubt it will be next year though.
It probably looks like sh1t right now, 6 months of polish will improve that. Now hurry up and get that beta out their.
That gives them almost 6 months to work out bugs, shine the visuals, and make sure it's ready for a fall release date.
With all the hype, most Halo fans are hoping/expecting to be blown away by Reach. I am, and I hope they deliver. The gameplay isn't the issue - I think most people would agree with that (it's a blast, quite literally). But I'd like to see Bungie deliver a wow factor in some way shape or form. The graphics need to be more than Halo 2.51 -> visuals have come too far since '07 for Bungie to just deliver more of the same.
@Saaking - they just said fall 2010 as for basically finishing the game...all they have left is polishing and even possibly adding little things that can only make the game better really looking forward to this game and its beta
Yeah that's true, this game should be shipped finely tuned with all the extra time they will have to polish it. I can't wait.
The thing that makes halo different than other games is that they do not simply release it as soon as it becomes playable, they refine the gameplay mechanics to near perfection. I always look forward to halo games because they always show you something that you did not think xbox was capable of.
it's not just polish. It's play-through-able (not a word). that doesn't mean it's anywhere near finished. You could have entire sections that are just framework and wiring...no skins or textures. still pretty cool that they are nearly a year from launch and have the hardest part out of the way. I'm sure they still have a ton left to do with the multiplayer though. like designing maps. esp since halo seems to be one of the few games anymore that actually uses unique maps for the MP rather than just taking small sections from the single player. very excited for the beta...guess i'm going to have to buy a used copy of odst around that time...or re-rent it.
bug fixing i hope they get all out to keep the game a damn great experience..
That's definitely good news. It seems like a huge project and if they already have the basic layout from beginning to end it means they will have more time to polish everything. Which is amazing to me because the trailer already blew me away with its graphical quality. If the gameplay graphics are anywhere close to that it is going to be one of the nicest looking games around. Very, very excited for this.
2010 looks promising already!
Just like Halo 3 and ODST.
no doubt they'll be using the extra time to do some dlc ready for a few weeks after launch, seems to be the norm just lately
Yeah it only makes sense to release Halo at the optimum time of the year for video games. It's a guaranteed heavy hitter.
as a Halo fanboy I don't like hearing this If the single player story is already done it most likely means it's short and has little depth... I was hoping for something epic this time around, but I learned my lesson after Halo 3 You can spend a year polishing it but that won't fix a bad story or repetitive gameplay
I'm sure that Bungie's been working on it since Halo 3 and only released ODST because of the span in time between Halo 3 and Reach.
I know Bungie and MS keep saying that "every new Halo game will be completely different" and honestly I'm hoping that's the case with Halo: Reach because they flat out lied about all the rest of the games about being completely different/better than the previous entry. I'm tired of them abusing the Halo name. Notice the complete lack of attention ODST received from GOTY awards? That's right, because it wasn't deserving of anything and that game - according to MS and Bungie - was also suppose to be "different" and it turned out to just be "more Halo". *crosses fingers*
that vision flew out the window as soon as they realized they could get away with charging $60 for it.
I just wonder how different the multiplayer will be this time around if at all. If it's too much the same then it's just like...the same stuff. They change it up too much then people are like, wtf is this!? The violence thing sounds good though. On the level of Gears of War type gore apparently.
Your right about the MP part, people want some of the same but also improved/news features, one thing people don't want is a perk system for Halo.
I sort of want a darker Halo. The Halo 3 enemies for me was quite... cartoony in nature they need to be made more dark in nature. The combat feel good. Graphics need updating AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THAT DAMN GIRL OUT MY DAMN HELMENT. Basically after killing 1,000's of enemies I am slowed down BY A HOLOGRAM. It breaks pace too much. Just imagine in MW2 is every too often you are forced to stop and look at a static for 10-15 seconds out of combat. Because that's what it is doing.
I kind of took the slowing down to be more like slowing down time rather than slowing you down physically.
actually Microsoft and Bungi both stated that ODST would be nothing special, it was originally supposed to be even less than it is, that is why they were going to charge less than 60 bux for it. Where do you people get your info from, do you actually know anything about the 360? Or do you just hate on it with a blindfold on?
yea, where does bungie and ms get off giving us "more halo" for a game about halo...i mean, thats completely outrageous...giving us "more halo" for a game about gears, now thats understandable, but "more halo" for a halo game, wtf is that?!! /s what do you expect when your playing a game about halo? seriously and personally, i think leaving out matchmaking for firefight was where they really dropped the ball...if they added that, then it would still be played by countless amount of players
the halo 3 beta was different from halo 3 the graphics were different i think they added motion blur and it looked slightly better the gameplay was a little different the sniper was easy in the beta and in halo 3 it's harder so i expect the full version will be a little bit different than the beta version
Actually ODST did have a lot that was different about it. I honestly don't understand how anybody that has actually played the Halo games could claim that it is just the same. Expecting a game franchise to radically change is completely stupid anyway. If you change it too much it just upsets the fanbase and makes the game no longer feel like the same game. Uncharted 2 wasn't fundamentally different from Uncharted 1, it simply had some enhancements and improvements, just like we have seen in the Halo games. I don't get what is with this double standard that some people have. Halo Reach will offer probably some of the biggest changes we have seen in the franchise so far, but if you are expecting it to be fundamentally different in a huge way your expectations are way out of line. I want it to continue to improve, but I don't want it to fundamentally change its nature.
Wow Bungie sure does work fast. Anyone how big their team is?
They have the motivation of "money microsoft" behind them.
2-3 years is more than enough time to make a Halo game over there. They started shortly after finishing Halo 3
Wikipedia said they have 163 employees, IDK about how big the teams are still, thats still alot of people, and their really good at what they do.
163 employees as of June of this year. http://seattletimes.nwsourc... "With 163 employees now, Bungie has outgrown the offices Microsoft developed for it, a former Kirkland hardware store converted into a futuristic, metal-sheathed studio known as the "the Bunker."" With Halo 3 they also had credits for FASA Studios, Rare, and I think Lionhead as well so perhaps they also contribute to development, most likely beta testing though.
but they work on multiple projects at one time. It's not like all 163 work on a single game the whole time. For example, ODST was done by a small part of the team while the others worked on Reach, halo 3 map packs, and other stuff. Probably for a few weeks before Reach launches everyone will be working on it just for the final push, but they don't have 163 people working on Reach for the whole 2-3 years.
Great, this game looks good.
Considering its been in development since Halo 3 its not too surprising. At least now they got plenty of time to make sure the game runs flawlessly and doesnt get delayed.
*yawn* Bring on motion-controlled Resistance 3 and Killzone 3!
Those two games will blow Halo Reach out of the water easily graphically & quality... ;) I'll be fine with my Dual Shock 3. :)
Same graphics, same game play, nothing new, just the same refurbish turd.
Resistance 1 & 2 were a bore for me. Killzone 2 was decent, especially the multiplayer, but lets see if they can improve the campaign for Killzone 3. Halo is still more fun that either of those games and it is obvious you guys are just hating on it because you are jealous of its success.
@FiftyFourPointTwo: Interesting. Your mother was also asking to bring it, literally begging for it. And she still hasn't stopped asking. I think she's a sick skank, but man, she goes down so good makes me wonder how she was able to have you. @Saaking: Everything you say begins and ends with "PS3 is great". NO ONE CARES. No one will love you because you support one system more than the other. Get over it and just focus on finishing 6th grade before worrying about the internetz being mean to you. @OmarJA-N4G and djtek184: Could your names be any more proof that you both have ADD? "Ooooh, Halo. Halo Halo Halo Halo". If you hate it so much, why talk about it? Not even HALF the number of people who play Halo are reading your comments. Why bother? So your PS3 brothers will love you and cuddle you and make you feel wanted while daddy's belting mommy? God, you and your filth are pathetic.
lol you didn't even brought the resistance 2 lol that game probably still struggling to reach a million. killzone 2 nobody give a rat ass about it look at the sales 2million for game that had 5yrs worth of hype and it got killowned by a rts game halo wars.
Lol @Xbots Let me use your argument. Halo 3 blows sh*t because it only sold 10 mil units compared to the glory that is Wii Fit. Just because more people buy it doesn't make it better.
Try to copy Halo but fail, even insomniac was disappointed with its own creation. http://thegamingliberty.com...
"put my wii fanboy hat on" lol everygame out there is a flop, Wii is leading this gen, i mean look at the sales of our games, they are so insane compared to ps3 and 360 sales. "take off the hat" I love the Wii, well some of there games like mario, metroid and zelda, but come on those are like the only titles (there are more) that sell more and still have qualitie. Honestly using sales bots, its funny cause the wii has more sales then ps3 and 360 for system, and software. So for bot logic all games on ps3 and 360 are fails compared to the wii i'm not trying to diss the Wii btw, like i said i love me Wii its collecting dust but wen i get one of those games i like then i sit there for hours playing it
Resistance 2 sold pretty good. personally, I was like Resistance 1 better, but I still enjoyed Resistance 2 a lot. Not a disappointment at all. At least to me.
Have you bought Flopza 2.5? Fable 2? Mass Effect? Lost Odyssey?
KillZone 2 is best FPS with a graphical overhaul I have ever seen and played the game looks more realistic then any of the Halo games, Halo reach looks like another ridiculous halo game that brings nothing new to the table even Resistance 2 looks far better then Halo Reach.
You are a complete imbecile, crywolf. You are actually trying to claim Resistance 2 (which was boring, by the way) is better than Halo Reach which we know almost nothing about? Eres un verdadero pendejo. Graphics wise, the graphics we saw in the Halo Reach trailer blow away the graphics in Resistance 2.
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Of course it's fully playable in some form. They have been developing it for over 2 years now. I guarantee it's not in any way, shape, or form close to being done. Games are always fully playable pretty early. I know people are freaking out about this because ODST was done so far before release, but it doesn't seem to be the same thing with Reach. Being playable now doesn't mean it'll be done months before release. People forget Halo 3 was announced to be fully playable long before release. Chill out.
Now they're going to polish- wait, market it everywhere.
halo 3 shipped out glitchless (or practically glitchless, i dont know if there are any) so i wouldnt doubt on them polishing the game as for marketing a game heavily...now your gunna make that out to be a bad thing?
Id rather have this in the spring than Crackdown from MS. Cant they switch them? :(
I can't wait for some Crackdown 2!
i cant wait til halo reach is released . i know the upgrade in graphics , physics and gameplay will be like the upgrade from halo 3 to halo odst so i cant wait . the engine suppose to be some x engine which will show the xbox is a force to be reckoned with.
This is good but I hope they aren't just delaying the game because of the Christmas, I hope they fully polish and teak the game because that what turns a great game into a AAA.
lol.. 2 halo games in space of 1 year.. facepalm for this ;)
dont forget , its 4 gaylo games in 4 years. halo 3 in 2007, halo wars this year, halo 3 odst this year and halo reach next year. talk about milking it, but bots are too stupid to be able to count.dee dee dee
Well, Halo Reach will only be the second full Halo game on the 360 and there probably won't be any more Halo games this generation. So that means there will be 2 full Halo games in one generation. On the other hand, we will likely get at least one more Uncharted this generation, which means that there will have been 3 full Uncharted games in one generation. There were only two Halo games last generation, just as there were two God of War games. So, I really don't see how you can say that it is being milked. Let's be fair here guys.
Lol.. and you still paid FULL PRICE for an incomplete game? LMFAO
I think it is an illusion and some fact that bungie worked fast. I believe they just withheld a development process for REACH that was already in progress. Bungie is notorious for being secretive in what, when, and how they reveal development of games. And MS is strategic about game releases. I am sure Reach won't hit stores anywhere near other big 360 game releases.
Considering they started development on this game after Halo 3 that's not bad. They had 2 years of actually putting it together, and 1 more year until it is launched for polish. This could end up being a real gem in the Halo franchise. It is Bungie's last Halo game on the 360 and one would think they would want to go out with a bang. Despite whatever O.D.S.T. was, I think this will be a hit both critically and sales wise. Best of luck Bungie, can't wait to play the final game!
THE MOST OVERRATE GAME OF 2010,LIKE ODST AND L4D
dont mind this...it was a mispost
in fact, the majority of the staff was working on reach even while odst was being developed. I don't know why people are surprised by this.
Its sad that Halo reach are offering the same graphics that are in Halo 2 on the original xbot even with a new so called graphical engine and how overrated the Halo series is.