Will Powers from TPR writes: "Despite being an incredibly innovative game [ICO] in the sense of gameplay, musical scores, graphics, and story, the game largely fell under the radar for the mainstream market."
its possible that the sales will start out slow but it will only increase more as time goes on...either way it wont stop me from buying this game day 1 and enjoying every last bit of it... this game has masterpiece written all over it
One point I forgot to make in the article. Is that those first two games only had those sales on the PS2 which had a MUCH LARGER install base than the PS3 currently has. Trust me, I'd love to see The Last Guardian sell 2-3 million, I just don't see it happening right now in the current climate. But for sure it'll break 1 million this time around
Wii Sports & Wii Play are the best games ever made! /sarcasm
PS3 gamers strongly support the console and it's game, and always buy the high quality exclusive games. If even inFamous can be a new IP on PS3 and break 1 million, than The Last Guardian will probably break 1-2 million as well.
The audience this game is geared towards will buy it. But Team Ico isn't Bungie, so all their games can do is move the medium forward as a storytelling art-form.
Remember people, sales don't matter to us. They're only important for the company to make their money, and everybody here seems to think that if a game doesn't sell 1 million then it isn't a success and didn't turnover any money. As long as this game has quality written all over it (and we know it does) then I couldn't care less how many people buy it. I could be the ONLY person in the world to spend my money on it for all I care. A lot of you need to take the same stance on this, and stop worrying about things that don't affect you.
The difference this time is that the media actually care about this game . all it needs is attention ( done at E3 ) and some ads correctly placed .. maybe a demo too , but that would be difficult ...
Its going to be a great classic and It will sell at least 2 M or more. Since when sales only matter the first two weeks or month of release? Long Live to The Last Guardian Lol im Pirate Patcher
Use your brain and humor me for just a moment. How exactly do you expect Team Ico to keep making games if they don't sell? If this doesn't sell around a million copies, they can't make another game. It does matter to you if you are the only one to buy the game, because if you don't help a game sell you'll never see a sequel. I just don't understand how people can't see this. Why do you think there isn't a true Okami sequel?
ico flopped big time. but shadow of colossus was still made. this is sony we are talking about. no EA or Ubisoft. Sony cares about their fans. sony is pushing to make videogames more mature as an art form unlike ms churning out halo and gears for tweeners. that's why we have heavy rain, flower and stuff like this.
I heard an inside rumor that this games power level... it's OVER 9000!!!!!! :D I'll be buying it day one. ;)
Clearly you've never heard of the term "hyperbole". Obviously I'm not going to be the only person who buys the game, and Team Ico will undoubtedly make enough money to be successful (around 500,000 - 700,000 is considered commercially "successful", in case you didn't know). And there's no set number of sales to warrant a sequel, ESPECIALLY with SCE's games. happy_gilmore said the rest.
So? Ico and SOTC didn't sell that well yet they're some of the best games I've EVER played. Sales =/= quality. The game will be rated much higher than Call of Duty, Halo, or even GT5.
It's too bad that some great games don't get the retail success that they deserve. Okami, Beyond Good & Evil and Shadow of The Colossus spring to mind. It's sad, because despite what some people say sales do matter. Developers need to feed their families and beyond even that I also feel that if a developer puts in the talent and hard work to create a great game they deserve to be rewarded accordingly, not just barely make a living.
The Power Review...already has fulfilled it's destiny of mediocrity...
i want to know more about the game, but so far its the only exclusive on ps3 im interested in for 2010, so i hope its good.
Just like Valkyria Chronicles or Demon`s Soul, or Uncharted 2. Bt the reality is that we live in world, where casual games have more appeal, than hardcore games or games, which we could consider as piece of art, like Ico or SotC. Anyway, both VC and DS are on the way to 1M, so will and The Last Guardian sell over 1M, i`m pretty sure about that. Anyway, this game is a MUST BUY. That`s all what should matter to a real GAMER. http://www.gamersyde.com/st... - JUST WATCH THIS!
"The game will be rated much higher...." Ico: 90 SOTC: 91 Halo 3: 94 COD4: 94 yeah...... about that..
@Rampant - Yet despite that, ICO and Sotc are two of the best games ever made, and Halo 3 and COD4 are two of the most overhyped games ever made. Guess how I know that, because I played all 4 of these games myself, and didn't look at the Metascore at random.
-Says who? It's subjective. Even if a bunch of reviewers thinks so, it's still subjective. For example, there are lots of times where the stuffy movie critics think a movie is great that I think just sucks, and movies that they criticize that I think are some of the best movies I have ever seen. Edit: Halo 3 and MW2 are awesome games. Do you think I care that you don't like them? Like I said, it's subjective.-
@above - Do you think I care what you think? A random fanboy isn't going to change the minds of the 2.5 million Ico and SOTC owners that KNOW that these are two of the best games they've EVER played. Argue all you want, COD4 and Halo 3 are extremely low on the list of best games ever. :)
^^^^^exactly gaffyh, and rampant stfu, maybe you should play those games then maybe you would actually undertand why theyre so masterfull. I dont care for this article because ill be contributing to the sales for this game as i did for the other 2, and im glad i did, money well spent. people seriously need to open their eyes and smell the sh1t theyre eating cause theyre ruining gaming and ill be damned if i can only play mediocre fps, and one more thing just got Demon Souls for Christmas, AMAZINGG game and people werent kidding on how hard that game is, all i can say is DAMN!
It would be great to see some advertising for this game around it's launch but I doubt we will. I think we owe it to Team Ico to do what we can through word of mouth (I know I'll be telling people who come through my checkout about it). They've given us some of the most amazing games ever created and deserve massive sales.
Who gives a rat ass about sales? it'll be another GOTY like U2 & DS.
As long as it sells two copies (divideby0's below and mine), I'm happy. But for Team Ico's sake, and gamers' who like quality games, I hope they sell millions.
and what makes it worst is the fact that it's about sales!(again!) if we are really gamers, why should we care so much about game sales? shouldn't we be more about the quality of the game? TLG is a game made buy the highly acclaimed ICO and SoTC devs! they have huge credibility on their name alone and to think that TLG is going to be amazing is just natural! I'm also hoping that the game I like will sell a gazillion copies but to argue about sales month before the game release like this game, which we don't even have the release date yet for god sake, is beyond STUPID! talking about anticipation, or what we want it to be is ok but sales?? what are you guys? investor?
Fumito Ueda Games are Masterpieces despite the sales Who in his right mind will care about sales when is already known: QUALITY > everything
Oh dear, heaven forbid a game doesn't sell five million in one day. It's deemed a flop already. I'm, sorry abut games for the PS3 are even spread out so sales are evenly spread out as well. Everyone has different tastes. Some games aren't for everyone. Again, sales doesn't equal quality.
What no guns?! Meh, no buy for me. /s
The argument of "PS2 had a bigger install base" is retarded. If install base was the only thing that mattered, shouldn't 3rd parties be supporting the Wii in droves instead of next-gen consoles? Their games have flopped on the Wii, which is why 360 and PS3 are their bread and butter. Many non-FPS games have sold better on PS3 than 360 despite 360s headstart. So no, install base does not correspond directly to game sales. PS2 was one of the most pirated consoles in history, if not the most, which hit its game sales. Also, PS2 was owned by dozens of millions of casuals, making it irrelevant for hardcore games like ICO if the PS2 sold 100 million more or not. These games have a market, and just like MGS4 and FFXIII have sold pretty well, Last Guardian will sell as much as ICO and SOTC did. I love it when somebody says "OMG GOW2 ONLY SOLD 2.5 MILLION ON 150 MILLION INSTALL BASE THEREFORE GOW3 WILL ONLY SELL HALF A MILLION AT BEST!!!11111111". It just confirms how mentally handicapped the fanboys of a particular business are (I'll let you guess the names), which only validates the decision NOT to sign-up for the competing service. What, to game against retards and listen to their pre-pubescent tweenager voices? No thanks. Edit: "HALO 3 AND CODMW2 SCORED BETTER THEREFORE THEIR BETTER" I had to LMFAO at this retarded argument. Seriously, Halo 3 and CODMW2 = $$$$$$, the companies that make those games couldn't afford to get bad ratings because the people that buys those games rely too much on review scores (Which is why you see them screaming in multiple threads AAA!!!!!!11 AAAa111111111!!!!!!! OMG ITS AAAaaaa111111111) rather than buying the games based on their actual content. Games like Last Guardian, Indigo Prophecy, Heavy Rain, ICO, Demon's Soul, Odin's Sphere, etc... are usually bought by well informed gamers (and those that rely on word of mouth), which is why they sell slow, have long legs, and have a niche yet hardcore fanbase. Its userbase doesn't rely on a game being "AAA" which is why you see more honesty in these reviews, both from those that praise the games and those that plain don't get them (i.e. EDGE).
I played all of them except COD and I would rate them: Ico: 9 SOTC: 9.5 Halo 3: 10 See how that subjective opinion thing works now ;)
That's BS because this generation there's more generous reviewers who hand out 10s to every game.
This game will be as epic as the Titanic or the Dark Knight movies, and it will only be on the PS3, you know the consoles that houses the best games of this gen outside of sales. Sales did not earn Sony exclusives VGA's GOTY awards 2 years in a row, it was the quality and the labor of love that Sony devs put in the games. A Sony exclusive will win GOTY in 2010 again mark my words. If you want to experience "next gen" you get a PS3 and invest in its exclusive titles, if you want to sit and count monies/profit/sales, then go apply for a job as a tax collector and stay out of gaming.
Dreamcast was a good console with great games, didn't sell well, got canned. There's a lesson to this.
The sales will probably be 2 million or more, which is excellent for any kind of games. Btw, it just won best trailer from GT. This will be the most epic game in 2010 along with 2010. PS3 exclusives continue to shine in the coming year.
Uncharted 2 hasn't even sold that much, what makes you think this will?
Uncharted 2 HAS sold 2 million. FYI.
Uncharted 2 has sold 2.3 millions. http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... "what makes you think this will?" Say what? LOL
Always, ALWAYS on the ball.
LOL, I haven't looked on that list in a while. Took them long enough. It was probably that christmas / black friday boost.
That's the point, isn't it? Ulloa getting owned left and right, as usual.
I know I won't buy it if it doesn't sell 5 million as that means it's not good. seriously, who cares how much it sells, this game will be INCREDIBLE
I agree. When SOC first came out the sales weren't that good. Nonethelss it's one of the best games ever made in human history. The presentation alone still looks a lot better than a lot of current gen games.
this game will sell around 1.5-2 million but i dont care as long as its a great game, im guessing its gonna get 94+ review scores!
the only sale that counts is MINE... this game will be epic....developers know that...they know the market...guess what..they are OBVIOUSLY good with it... move on...
love the random disagrees I see here...
flamebait title and article.
Not really. As a big fan of Team ICO, I think I can agree with the article. These games never sell so much.
I love how all of the users of N4G read the articles before commenting... /sarcasm
Yeah, so? Both Ico and SOTC are regarded as masterpieces, lets see sales achieve that.
the next: heavy rain ( aka movie rain) no doubt this game gonna sell like crap mag: another flop in 2010 mark my words uc2: base install of 30 m and only 2.0 m of salles after hype and marketing the ps3 flop in exclusives.. only ps3fanboys blinds not know this ;)
You forgot to add Flopza 3 - 35 million install base and didn't even reach 1 million sales.
Well, 360 has more install base than PS3 but Flopza 3 of yours hasn't even reach 2 mill. That says a lot. The 360 no real exclusives.. only xbots blindly think they have ;) Edit: Flopza still not 2 mill. I love how bots use the word "around 2 mill" LOL
You guys miss out on so many games because it doesn't meet the 3m sale mark =X
the forza 3 sell around 2.0 m.. check the google for see the numbers
A pathetic troll wearing a badge of mediocrity (Nice Halo ODST Avatar) is always one of the first, if not THE first to come in here with disguised jealousy and mediocre grammar skills; "the forza 3 sell around 2.0 m.. check the google for see the numbers" Well you're a big boy. Why don't you provide us with the link to the forza 3 sales from the google for we can see the numbers? Back up your own claims. Do your own homework, son! Or are you just some pathetic little kid who loves to filibuster and just hates what he can't have?
Many exclusives haven't sold a gazillion copies on both sides of the pond but WHEN I ask does 1+ million constitute a flop. If you constitute critical appraisal + comparatively low sales a flop then basically many of the greatest games this gen and last are flops. Let me ask you this: Have you played any of Tim Shafers games before Brutal Legend? Fumito Ueda's games? Nix Quest? because basically all of those are flops in sales. If you see the PS3 in a bad light because many of it's amazing games have sold bad of which it has a plenty (great games that is), I doubt your tainted eyes could ever see that. But then thats your issue but don't downplay thes games because they certainly don't deserve it, especially from someone who wouldn't even consider playing them based on immature prejudice.
Both consoles have great games. You guys need to stop bickering so much.
You made fun of Uncharted 2 for selling 2 million yet say nothing about Forza selling 2 million with an even bigger install base? Lol...
Man the bots are getting more desperate everyday... PS3 = GOTY Exclusives.
-Oh really. So, you are saying that every PS3 exclusive gets GOTY? Or that a PS3 exclusive wins GOTY every year? Sorry to burst your bubble, pal, but neither of those things is true. I seriously can't believe how quickly you guys get arrogant after the PS3 has one good year. It's one year out of many. One year doesn't define a rule. Many PS3 exclusives are mediocre.-
and to the morons who use sales numbers to compensate for the lack of independent judgment, you really are experts in mediocrity
Ah!! A late christmas present. You're back so I can take all of your bubbles all over again. I loves me a repeat offender! (1 bubble by dec 31st!)
2 good years, 2008 was a close call but MGS4 took the prize in my mind. Then again it's up to preference (for the most part) but this year if you don't like at least some of the PS3's line-up I am sorry but that is your problem not mine and if that is the case then maybe you should get you head examined.
Heavy rain will be excellent. This will be excellent.
This is a good sign then, because a lot of the best games on PS3 seem to sell "respectably," as opposed to ten million day one. The less they sell, the better the game!
Wow.. thats it, i'm not buying this game then!
I'm ashamed to say I've never played Ico or Shadow of Colossus :( But damn, The Last Guardian is looking really really good.
same, i remember playing the ico demo back in the day. i think cus of my age when these games came out i wasn't really interested, looking back now tho i really wanna give sotc a go cus now i bet i'd love it, but alast my launch ps3 died so no more bc for me :(
Its not too late to try those games. I think they are gonna re-release those games in HD before the Last Guardian comes out like with what they did with God of War.