As the first week of Final Fantasy XIII ends, Total Manga takes a look at the sales of the game and compare them to every major title in the series.
Added consoles sales numbers for Final Fantasy VII in 1997 and Final Fantasy X in 2001.
FF13 is the worst in the series. It's also the most linear game in the series (if not the most linear RPG of all time). It feels like a very linear turn-based action game. Even Pac-Man has more freedom.
U manage to write a comment with out trashing or blaming the 360. You want more freedom? Got play Fallout3 or Oblivion.
Or are you just going by what you've read in reviews?
of course he's only read reviews, you really think the kid bought FF13, put in the more than 50 hours worth of gameplay, then came on here to talk trash about it, fully knowing everything about the game? I think not. It would make more sense for Indiana Jones to survive a nuclear bomb in a refrigerator than to actually think he's basing his opinions off of personal experience. Thats how this site works, in case ya didnt know.
dude you re an idiot for saying that.i don't care if square went soft on us and let 360 dumb it down.ff13 is going to be great and be the the first to rival ff 7 and 8. overkill confirmed.you should be hung for this blasphemy!
From the reviews I've seen, FFXIII is way too linear for an RPG. I think SE focused way too much on the presentation and forgot to add some focus to the actual gameplay. I'm still getting it though...along with White Knight Chronicles, End of Eternity, and Star Ocean The Last Hope: International....then 3D Dot Game Heroes soon after =D First half of 2010 = RPG heaven!
well i want FFvs13 the most and its the 1st mature FF game.
FFXII says hello.
Less PS3s in Japan than PS2s back @ the time when older FFs came out= LESS SALES since theres Less consoles. It's not about What you heard on the game you fools.
Rather than being immature and calling people names on the internet, state some proof to back up your "claim".
haha, these article trying to put down the FFXIII's huge success on PS3 make me laugh. The attach ratio for the game is IMMENSE (as big as MW2 to 360, maybe even bigger). When FFX-2 released, there were a LOT more PS2s than there are PS3s. These hate articles are just getting beyond ridiculous. Only fools would say the PS3 is "doomed" at this point in time (when it's CRUSHING the 360 in worldwide sales month after month).
on a few negative sentences, but I've read a few COMPREHENSIVE reviews written by people who have actually gotten through the game, and they say it's great. All of you haters are judging the overall game's quality based on this single sentence: "It's too linear!" All you people saying this game is a flop and that it sucks...you already had that particular mindset beforehand and are just using this article to confirm you preset thoughts. Flop? At 1.5 million copies sold in the first week? Do you know how many PS3 owners there are in Japan?! I encourage you guys to read full reviews written by people who have beaten the game, not just single sentence remarks like "This game is the worst in the FF series!" or "This game is way too straightforward!"
Yeah, it would be nice if these articles used reason, looked at install base and the general time the games were introduced, but then if they had used reason in the first place they'd have no reason to written the articles.
Come on. FFXIII sold 1 mln. in 24 hours and 1.5 mln. in 4 days of first week. Why this is a problem??? I think, this is because many haters expected FFXIII to sell below 1 mln. on first day, and around 1.2 mln. first week. BUT FFXIII sold MUCH better, than haters hoped. Yet, they still trying to downplay FFXIII success. And THIS looks soo stupid now. FFXIII did respectable numbers. DEAL with that, haters! FFXIII on PS3 had highest opening week for a home console game this gen in Japan. FFXIII is best selling home console 3rd party game this gen in Japan.
Is anyone really surprised something positive for the PS3 is getting spun into something bad? For crying out loud, it's 1.5 million sold out of 4 million. By the end of the month it's going to be 2 million, which is a 2 to 1 ratio.
THE MAX SPEED 21 immature ? i dont necessarily agree with a lot of his comments ... but in this instant he is kinda right to have a short temper and burst ... Where the hell is there any small hint or correlation between sales (wich arent even low to begin as the title imply) and something about the game being linear ? You are just repeating the same crap like a catchphrase , caught on some "articles" from some occidental guys . Last time i checked bethesda games and other non-linear games arent making any dent in japan . Those that do are basically consoles mmos such as Monster hunter , the rare dungeon crawlers like Demon souls and a few titles like WKC . Too linear ? they've always been linear , except some form of semi-freedom in a title like FFXII ...
I hate these "news" stories. They are just trying to downplay the game because is exclusive to the PS3. I haven't played any Final Fantasy game so I don't know if they are any good, but come on! they are writing these POS articles even though they know the PS2 had more fanbase at the time, the games were cheaper, the economy didn't suck as much, and Final Fantasy 13 sells from Media Crate are from FOUR days, not a WEEK... LAME... I'm waiting to see tons of articles about how the 360 version sold more (hopefully not, since is clearly an inferior version), but if it does, they won't care about the difference in market share, or any other factor for that matter, instead they will bash the PS3 to death... ohh..and if that happens, there will be TONS of articles saying: "Why would Final Fantasy Versus 13 should go Multiplatform", "Ten reasons why FFv13 should go to the 360" Hate this generation of gaming....scratch that.. this generation of so-called gaming journalism
There is NOTHING wrong with FF13, NOTHING. So what if you have to follow a specific path up till mid-point of the game, it STILL has tons of exploration and optional things to do just like all its predecessors. How can anyone call a game that lets you keep playing after beating the final boss linear?
I actually hope it's "too linear" . The more linear the more plotted out it will be . I'm tired of people wanting every rpg to be alike wrpg or jrpg ... every fps to be modern warfare (remember the "waaah kz2's controls are not like MW1 fiasco ?) ... every action game to be like god of war . Variety exist for a great reason , if you dont want linear stuff , find another game .
I'm at Chapter 11 in the game. The first 10(40hours) you do not get any side quests, there are NO towns, there are no puzzle dungeons, there are no mini games, there are no choco rides, there are no airship destination picks, no back tracking for giggles to find random things you missed, and no maze dungeons either. It's pure story and very little in difficulty of battles once you have the hang of it. Once you hit Chapter 11 though? It's like a totally different game. One that deserves the Final Fantasy name sake. However, since most reviewers will play 5-10 hours tops of this before tossing out a score here in the west...it's safe to say this game is doomed score wise. For all RPG enthusiasts, and FF fans.... just play 40 hours for all the side questing zaniness you have ever wanted. Probably more so than any other FF. It pays out in the long run and DOES cater to those who just want to bum rush through the story AND to those who want to do a ton of extra things to prove their worth and have fun.
Cool zlatko , it is exactly as expected and what i want from the game . The side stuff at the side and end game . Since ff7 is the barometer and best ff for me people (myself not included) , just remember that you dont go seek the Arms right at the start ...
lol looking at these comments it would be hilarious if 360 ff13 sales destroyed ps3's hours and hours of entertainment for me I'll even do my part and buy the ps3 version.
@Saaking Excellent point, I was going to say the same thing. The current PS3 audience in Japan IS a lot smaller than the PS2 audience at the time of X2's release. So this information can't be looked at straight up. You would have to put sales:console ratios in to consideration.
Quite a few of you guys are making some horrible misstatements here and misleading the rest, (falsely) asserting that this is somehow an indication of smaller console market penetration. Here are the facts (and FFS keep in mind these are JAPANESE numbers): The following are comparisons of each FIRST FF title that was released for each respective PS hardware. The first number is the week 1 sales figure (from the link), and the second figure represents the number of consoles available IN JAPAN during the respective launch week. FF7 (Jan 1998): 2,025,834 sold from 5mil PS1 users FF10 (Mar 2001): 1,906,152 sold from 4mil PS2 users FF13 (Dec 2009): 1,508,558 sold from 4mil PS3 users Here are some clear conclusions: 1) The PS3 has THE SAME NUMBER OF units in Japan as the PS2 did during FF10's launch (in both cases, 4 million). So, you CANNOT BLAME the low sales on the PS3. 2) FF13 has the lowest attach ratio out of the three (at 37%), so LESS PEOPLE are buying it, period. --- Now, I am REALLY disappointed that NOBODY seems to make the connection between the lower sales and the HIGHER PRICEPOINT. This game is $90!!!! The correct way to read these numbers is: "One out of Five potential FF13 players chose not to buy it due to the higher price" Yes, the linear nature and suspect quality of the game itself will EVENTUALLY hurt FF13's lifetime sales (and consequently, the brand value itself), but these are FIRST WEEK SALES that we're talking here. The chances of someone not buying the game the first week due to word-of-mouth is MUCH smaller than six weeks or six months later. Please think in terms of dollars more. Plz.
A lot of people got burned..
hum ?? so what oh yeah ..sales again .. some of you sure have a lot of time comparing sales each week, month, day ... Anyway i've finished uncharted 2 four times( very easy , normal , hard , crushing )NOT IN THAT ORDER and i recently started AC2 while grinding in "agarest generation of war" ... So i'll not be part of this intelligent discution ... i'm busy playing . /*goes back into the mod nation beta ...
Video games do not have uniform retail prices in Japan like they do in other territories. High profile games in Japan (and FF is one of the very highest) sell at $80-90 USD. That has been true for a very long time and likely is not affecting people's decision to buy it any more than normal. (I won't bother to post any links since this was covered exhaustively when Square first announced the price this fall.) On topic: If price were actually a factor, the sales numbers would be even more impressive imo.
34 hrs and finally up to Chapter 11... gaaah... i knew i shouldn't have stuck around and grind at Chapter 9, but yes Chapter 11 is sooo different. Those Behemoth's are huge, tried to attack one, one stomp obliterated two members in the blink of an eye :S After being directed for so long, i have no idea what to do now!!! :D No more corridors and straight paths... Good times. XD
I don't think handhelds have ever been as popular as they are now in Japan and, in that same breath, that makes consoles less popular. So that might be why it suddenly doesn't sell quite as much. Though nobody can really say anything about its sales. It sold more in Japan than most games sell worldwide. People are just trying to find any fault they can.
Just stop, is not gonna change anything, people will buy this game no matter how the previous Games sold Gamers FTW!!!
the game just got out give it a break well yah ?
Final Fantasy Tactics says double-hello.
Your logic fails because 2 main points: 1. Game price 2. Worldwide Economy In 2001 how much cost a FF game? vs 2009 FF game cost of $90 in Japan. In your logic, 2001 worldwide economy was as bad as 2009's, right? So FF XIII selling around 2009's 1.5M is like selling 2M or more of 2001'S units. And don't come arguing that 1 unit is the same now than in 2001, is like saying that 1 dollar in 1890 is like 1 dollar in 2009. Think a little to find out why.
Bubbles. FFTactics FTW. That game has the most punishing A.I. I've ever seen, and still crushes today's games in that respect. Plus, it's one of the more darker games around, filled with more plot twists, death, and betrayal than I can imagine. I have the original version and the PSP version. Decided not to buy the PSN version since that would be overkill. lol. But damn I love that game. Even though it's perfect the way it is, I kinda want to see how it would play in the combat style of Valkyria Chronicles.
Again, people on the internet put words in my mouth. I never claimed that sales were bad. All I said was, the unit sales are NOT weaker because of a smaller install base of the platform. That said: @ lordgodalming: Yes, I know. I've bought every version of Final Fantasy in the Japanese version, so I know FFs tend to carry higher pricetags. Still, FF13 has the highest price EVER. Also, to your point "If price were actually a factor, the sales numbers would be even more impressive imo", factoring the price into this, FF13 made the SAME amount of Gross Revenue as its predecessors. And I NEVER SAID the sales were not impressive. I only said the PS3 should not be blamed for it. @ SCThor: You need to be more educated. You don't even seem to realize that YOU ARE AGREEING WITH ME. That's how poor your reading comprehension is. Also, the world economy in the year 2001 was JUST AS BAD as 2009. I guess you aren't old enough to remember the dot-com crash, but I do very clearly. It was quite horrible (arguably more horrible than now, depending on which sector you're looking at).
SE did the right move on making this game multiplat.
I'm starting to think the reason they made it multiplat is because they knew they did a half assed job with the game and needed to sell as much as possible to get the money they wasted on it back. Since they're stationed in Japan, I guess releasing it on the 360 in Japan would be like a death sentence =0
Good for you, dude. You buy it, as for me no thanks, not gonna buy this sh1t.
This game sucks. Don't buy it!
so they can sell 1k more copies? lol. 360 owners don't buy jrpg.
No, you must buy this sh1t! It suits you cuz you suck too.
Ever since the game was announce multiplat I started to love the game, before that I hate it FFXIII because it was exclusive. I getting the 360 version and I don't care what you say.
If you don't have a ps3 then I understand. Well have fun playing with the inferior 3 disc gimped version. :)
It's all sony's fault. They failed on marketing the PS3. Thats why SE made FFXIII the why it is because it wasn't going to sell as well as the others.
But of course, it's just an emo crap game. Even the music suck monkey balls, as for the story...well...just another anime story, nothing special. yawnnnnnn
Sooooooooooooo..... 1.5mil is bad now? Think about that before you reply. ;)
I'm sorry but if you had read mangas like berserk,monster,death note,pluto,vagabond,20th century boys and other great mangas (which have better plot than 90% of games) then you wouldn't have mentioned the word "anime" as something bad :P
shysun, it's just a matter of opinion, you can like it if you want, no one is forcing you. "1.5mil is bad now? Think about that before you reply. ;)" Sales don't equal quality. So it's you who should think before you reply me. Owned by your own words eh? ;) Hakimy, I do read manga. I read them since I was 6. So I know all of those stuff you mentioned. I even know your avatar is from the manga GTO Great Teacher Onizuka, In fact I read manga every week "Shounen Jump" but you should know better Anime and Manga are not the same thing. Most of the Anime come from Manga and they suck. So most anime suck monkey balls except Akira which is the best Anime ever made. So do not assume anything if you don't know me :P Note: Berserk and One Piece are my favorite manga.
Not surprised you don't like it, it doesn't have enough run and gun in it for you and requires patience.
bu but... this game is exclusive in japan for ps3!!!
LOL wow even a Japanese knows that Western RPG's games like Mass Effect and Elders Scroll NON LINEAR games are the future.
Yeah, that must be why only 17,000 people bought Mass Effect in Japan on Day One. Have you seen the first day sales of FF?
Proves how stupid Xbots are. FFX-2 sold around 1,561,533 on an install base of 12-14 million PS2 owners. Now factor in FFXIII's high price point and the economy... FFXIII sold 1,508,588 on an install base of 4 million, 10 million less owners to play around with. Now you do the math. If you can't, which is obvious..then that means FFXIII is SELLING BETTER THAN FFX-2 and FFXI. Dumb bots
I find WRPGS to be bland and boring for the most part, the fanbase of WRPGs and JRPGs is also split about 50/50 so you implying that WRPGs dominate over JRPGs in the fanbase is just asinine. Some WRPGS get it right like Dragon Age but those are few and far between. You can say you don't like jrpgs or that you personally think wrpgs are better but to say WRPGs are the future is stupid. Bioware was wrong when they said it and lost alot of my respect for them, and you're wrong when you say it.
Square needs to go back to it's FF roots. Wizards, white mages, dragons and stuff. Enough of this future look and you playing the rebel forces against the empire. Or has that been the story for every FF? Anyways enough with the Star Wars themes. P.S. Square should bring back a proper FF Tactics or Vagrant Story.
That's what the series has been since FFIV. It was just more steampunk than outright sci-fi.
It has always been steampunk like said above . It just didnt register well with most people , since it was less obvious and ambitious with the 16 bits technology ... PS : i'd love that , but i have no hope of any good vagrant story sequel , or FFT or Ivalice related good title , without Matsuno . it was all his universe , his vision , and it could only be meh without him ... or someone as dedicated . I sure would love him back with a project though , of the same style and caliber , but obviously in another universe and title .
Yeah, even the 1st FF was sci-fi. Its just that the technology was so advanced yet so forgotten it may as well have been magic.
I wonder if it sells at all on the 360, does equal or even better than on the PS3, are we going to see, "360 new JRGP King" articles? or is that just a stupid question?
lol all the rpgs get bad scores on it ;p. even if they r good. no one liked star ocean or infinite undiscovery but i did. ps3 had my fav jrpgs so far, with valkyria and demon souls being on top so i dunno. how bout who cares bout consoles and we start carin bout games? *sigh
I'm more waiting for some "mwahahaha another playstation exclusive , sells as well/better on 360" . While of course ignoring the idea that by then , the japaneses sales would probably be doubles of the western ones . And with the ps3 us western , if behind only by a 200-400k margin in the US ... while ahead in EU and japan .... But hey , whatever small victory , will still be victory i guess
thank you for having a brain =]
everyone thought it was gonna be amazing since 10 was, its like them releasing ff7-2 and the sequal sux but wud still sell lots. , they dont remember that ps2 install base was huge by the time ffx-2 was released. this is the first ff of this gen. dammit 1.5 mill week one in japan is not that low. everyone expects every game this gen to be 11/10 dammit. what jrpg isnt linear? its an interactive anime obviously, aslong as its still fun and awesome. come on look at ff7, u were trapped in midgar most of the first disc, game wasnt open till u got out so pfft to u all who judge with out playing it urself
I knew some one would try to down play 1.5 mill sold(first week) but it still makes me think WTF!?! For a PS3 game in a global economy low, it did AWESOME. Thats the true story.
Again, what's with the sales talk this generation? What happened to judging games based on quality? I also have a feeling this is downplaying the PS3's success in Japan.
You're right. I remember when some 360 RPGs sold 150THOUSAND and the media went crazy! I remember all of the positive 360 jrpg king articles. Now we have a PS3 game selling 1.5 mill and it's a disappointment? Even after they all estimated the game selling much lower!W...T.....F...?!? I'm looking more forward to FF vs but damn you can ignore thoes great numbers.
they have been judging sales over quality since this gen started.and microsoft created these stupid number counting "achievements" the system sales the game sales the amount of players playing halo3 at one time these same people don't or didn't see the quality of beyond good and evil,okami,psychonauts,etc.did n't see the quality in ps3 exclusives,the system reliability,the built in features.nope.microsoft pushed the idea that if it's not breaking sales records DAY ONE,it's a flop. so gamers from the other camps had to counter with numbers or truth to shut them up.ffxiii is selling well.there are no "BUTS." but now nintendo has passed microsoft's sales for consoles and game sales with casual stuff.and sony has passed microsoft on game quality,awards and sales in other regions beyond the US. but you still got diehards still holding out hoping microsoft doesn't fade away in obscurity.
Dammit, those sour grapes are turning people stoopid!!! FF XIII has been bought by close to 50% of PS3 owners in Japan, yet some people's skulls seem too thick for this fact to penetrate. Poor souls...
Just comparing the amount of consoles at the time of the 2 games then it is painfully obvious that FF 10-2 would do better. However if you compare the attachment rate of games to console then around 40% of all the Ps3 in Japan has a copy. This is a great success and if ppl try to downplay it then they are just stupid.