TheSixthAxis presents the descriptions of the features that are offered in the four options for premium PSN services as appeared in the recent IPSOS survey.
Being that I'm mainly a PlayStation gamer, I'd consider it. I've never been too against paying for features, it was just paying for online play that annoyed me (if it comes with the game, I should be able to use it without pay more). They're talking about adding and a gambling flavor with the tokens, access to other medias that Sony owns, free access to PSN content, cloud storage... It goes on forever! They have some lofty dreams, I wonder how much they'll deliver when it actually launches.
omg if this is true im definitely getting the premium service.
Does this not trump "Live"? It looks like a big step above if you ask me. I wonder why there's no full game digital rental service available currently?
This article has me excited. I was wondering what Sony might consider "premium" and I'm very pleased with the features they've shown thus far.
It seems that none of the options they are providing offer everything? Option 1 looks the best but you don't get token wagering or the free access to PSone/PSPminis.. in fact, looking at that table, you can't even get two options that provide everything.
The "Token Wagering" is an awesome idea, and if done right, could change gaming in a big way. I can only imagine how popular it would be with racing games.
# Token Wagering Get a fixed number of tokens per month you can wager with other players in competitive online games. These tokens could then be built up and redeemed for free PlayStation Network games and other content. # Free Access to PSOne Classics, PSP Minis, and PS3/PSP Themes Get a fixed number of PSOne Classic games, PSP Minis (bite-sized games), and PS3/PSP themes per month to keep for free for as long as you are a subscriber. The PlayStation Store offers these types of content for $2-6 each. # Discounts on Store Content Get weekly member-exclusive discounts on specific games, game add-ons and themes on the PlayStation Store. Discounts may range from 20-50% off regular retail prices. # Cloud Storage Space for Games Store your game saves on a virtual secure saver. This would allow you to access your game saves at any point in time, and from any PlayStation 3 or PSP console you are logged in on. But I don't know about this one though... # Member Only In-game Content Get exclusive member-only in-game content for your PS3 or PSP such as new game play options, unlocked in-game weapons or player slots, exclusive levels, costumes/skins, and PlayStation Home spaces. I hate buying a game and feeling like I'm not getting the full experience, especially when it's already on my game disk and just needs to be "unlocked" to access Cross game chat is in there also for those of you waiting for it. Other great stuff is in there too
I thought I would stay free, but damn that a ridiculously long list of features. Warranty, tokens, free psone, x-chat, etc etc. Sign me up!! SIGN ME UP!!!!!
This disturbs me!! "Cross-game Voice Chat Access Get exclusive member-only access to cross-game voice chat. This is the ability to use your headset to voice chat with friends on your PS3 regardless of what they are doing on the PS3." And you have to pay for it!! Why!!!!! It should be for free too.
THE MAIN REASON I BOUGHT PS3 IS BECAUSE IT IS FREE FOR ONLINE GAMING! Now if they charged for it premium service that make them same as M$. So if they do this then why we PS3 owners stay loyal to Sony. Paying for Live is better option they are longer in this online pay business and got more expertise.
But they should bring cross game chat for free too all gamers. Community was/ is very vocal about lack of it. That would be pretty unfair if they'd charge for it.
silverbeld Im with ya bro... Cross games Texting Sux. All I want is cross game chat, (its so much easier to set up a co-op experience with my mate across multiple games in 1 sitting) and it seems I can for a price. $29.99 US (probably $50 Australian here even though $1 us = 88 cents Oz) F'ing Pricks.
Gaming online is still free and if that is all you want, like me, then you pay nothing. But I do have to admit, these features are quite appealing.
Gaming online remains free. That is all that matters. I would like the cloud storage and the store discounts will pay for this by itself if you purchase enough PSN games throughout the year. X-game chat should be standard and free just to smack live in the face, but I see why they would want it under subscription... its a good incentive.
These are some good features, some should be free but most are worth paying for. Token Wagering sounds good, if I wip your @ss in call of duty I can win your tokens to buy stuff on the store.
Token Wagering is such a Great Idea, this options are Awesome
Seriously, most that list is a load of BS. Sony would lose an ENORMOUS amount of money even if the service included a few of those features. There's no way in hell it would only cost $69.99 for the plans that supposed survey listed. Where's the hardcore proof that the survey is even real? ANyone could easily type that up and claim it to be true just to get traffic. These are the BS features that stand out to me most: "Full Title Trial – 1st Hour Is Free Download full versions of select Blu-ray and PSN game titles and have the chance to play the entire game (single or multiplayer) for free for the first hour. After that time you will have the option of purchasing the game to continue playing." ^ No way in hell that's true. "Token Wagering Get a fixed number of tokens per month you can wager with other players in competitive online games. These tokens could then be built up and redeemed for free PlayStation Network games and other content." ^ First off, that's like gambling. Second, Sony isn't going to give away games and other content for free just because you beat another player. "Free Access to PSOne Classics, PSP Minis, and PS3/PSP Themes Get a fixed number of PSOne Classic games, PSP Minis (bite-sized games), and PS3/PSP themes per month to keep for free for as long as you are a subscriber. The PlayStation Store offers these types of content for $2-6 each." ^ Again, Sony isn't going to give away a bunch of free content just for you paying a subscription fee to get all the other free stuff too. Even if you could download 1 per month, Sony wouldbe losing more than they make off of your subscription fee. 12 $9.99 PS1 games a year would be $120! "Discounts on Store Content Get weekly member-exclusive discounts on specific games, game add-ons and themes on the PlayStation Store. Discounts may range from 20-50% off regular retail prices." ^ AGAIN, Sony would lose more money that what they get from your subscription fee. "Online Music Video Service Get a streaming music video service on your PlayStation 3 that lets you stream music videos from a continuously growing catalog of music and allows you to create a custom playlist to play back. [Presumably an ad-free VidZone? ~Watchful]" ^ More lost money for Sony. "Loyalty Program Rewards Get rewards the longer you are a subscriber and also earn rewards by engaging with PlayStation such as buying games, downloading movies, and rating products. Rewards can include full versions of PlayStation Network games and digital movie rentals from the PlayStation Store." ^ If that were true, it'd be like a credit card where you would have to spend thousands of dollars to get something good. Seriously, what a joke! These alleged feature are such BS.
AWESOME!!!!!!(if its true which is hard but maybe possible lol), Sony never disappoints LMAO WHERE ALL ALL THE 360 FANBOYS!
I hate paying for online services (XBL), but if premium really does all that, this is something i would have to pay for....imagine if this is also cheaper than XBL.....uh oh spaghetti ohz! Watch out MS!
Is this why it took so long to come out??? They knew everyone wanted it so they want to charge for it??? Thats the only feature I want and I'm not paying for it.
The only problem I have here is paying for X-game chat. Yes, I know M$ charge you to play online, Yes, I know that you pay M$ for Cross Game Chat etc and Yes, I know SONY has provided us with a lot of free stuff and because of that I love my PS3 -- BUT, I still think Cross Game Chat should be free. The reason is simple. This will kick XBLA in the nuts and thus SONY will see a huge boost in sales both in harward and software. I know they are doing absolutely fantastic numbers after PS3 Slim but it could get even better if they add XGC for free. Secondly and most importantly, my main concern is if I do opt to become a premium member, that doesn't mean my friend is going to become one as well. He has free online gaming and he is very happy with it and won't pay for premium membership. Now if my friends aren't willing to pay for premium membership, who am I going to talk to? That being said, I know I won't be paying for XGC alone and I'd defenitely use the free PSP Minis/PSN games etc and this Token Wagering idea is great but one of the premium features will be rendered useless only because it's not universal. I seriously hope SONY reconsiders this. If the price is right, I am defenitely going to go for the premium service but they have got to keep the XCG free man!
I wish there was an option for all features. As well as cheaper prices. So far Option 3 is looking to be the best though. Other options all charge $70 a year for almost nothing that extrodinary. Option 3 gives you what you need for only $30. Cheaper than Xbox Live and well under half the cost of the other options. PC platform still gets free Cross game chat though, but its not hosted on a restricted Console platform.
they had included Qore....
First, I don't believe many of those features. Second, some of them, if true, are a big slap in the face. Like getting access to certain content before everyone else. This mean "it's ready for release to everyone, but we will purposely keep it away from our non-premium users."
i had never ever thought about paying for something online.....but this sure changes my mind :O
That is what I want full game rental service, if they included that it would be definate for me but I may just stick with free, free is still awesome.
Wow, if all those feature are true, PSN will be above and beyond what MS could ever hope to offer. I mean, just look at it. So much good stuff. It's definitely better than paying 50 bucks for crossgame chat, twitter, and facebook. @the people complaining about xgame chat Sony said everything free RIGHT NOW will remain free. The PS3 hasn't offered X game chat for the past 3 years so if you've never had it I don't think you'll miss. Besides, for everything Sony is offering, you might as well go premium.
^^^ My friend, not all of us are complaining. Please check my post above to see what I mean. Btw, I just gave you a bubble because of your comment on another story :) Cheers :)
I dont like this one: "Get exclusive member-only in-game content for your PS3 or PSP such as new game play options, unlocked in-game weapons or player slots, exclusive levels, costumes/skins, and PlayStation Home spaces." That means they're cutting off some content from the disk that should have been paid for all ready with our $59.99 + tax and we have to pay for the rest, especially if it's a map pack or extra level.
What a bunch of hypocrites, anyways I'll probably end up paying for.
Token wagering and catch up tv seem like good add ins. It's good that PSN will finally get cross game chat because the way its set up now is too much of a problem. I have a mic, so why would I want to go through all those screens to send someone a message? Overall, these features are well worth it, but there are still a few issues I don't like that still remain that LIVE has over PSN. If your friend is in a game, you don't have to sit and wait for an invite, you can just jump in when you see a spot open. On LIVE, you get a demo for almost every game. PSN only gives you demos for some games and usually after the game is released. More importantly (for me anyway), on LIVE, the demos download quicker and once it is downloaded I can play it right away. PSN takes a little longer to download and then I have to wait longer to install it and sometimes I have to wait longer to update it... also I have to leave the Ps3 on to finish downloading, on the 360, I can turn it off and it still downloads, charges my zune and my controller. Also, the interface for PSN reminds me of XBL before they gave the update that got rid of the traditional blade system. I'm not talking bad about the Ps3, just pointing out a few problems I wish were different. PSN is a good service and these will be welcome additions for those who are willing to pay for them. Out of curiosity though... I wonder how many people who complained about paying for XBL will pay for PSN premium? They probably won't admit it, but i'll ask anyway.
okay lets create the longest list of extra features in the world; the list is as long as king kong's dong.. so when premium access does come we are bound to get some points right.. seriously i rather go to a fortune teller.. the list is so fricking long some of the points are bound to be right..
This is well worth the price, if they dump the 4 options and have a full service $60 and a limited service $20 (while keeping the free PSN). Token Wagering is going to be problematic, it's borderline gambling and that's illegal for minors. I guess you aren't paying for the tokens, but the service which is how they can get around it, but expect someone to fail a law suit. But everything else looks great. Make it happen Sony. This should be launching March 2010 after your fiscal period.
Its not set up based on what features WILL be offered, its set up to see which features your interested in and how much you will pay for it. IF you all select 60 bucks for cross game chat, then Sony knows they can get away with ripping you off. If you all pick the cheap 20 dollar selection that doesnt have very many features, they know price is the important factor. Things like Xgame chat, Netflix without a disc, trophy update, and other crap like that SHOULD be in a FREE update. Its just bs to make people pay for something that should already happen.
so is this XBoxLive x99999? but only on ps3 :P
but the highest plan cannot be more than xbox live gold. i will not pay more than xbox live and i know no one will. if they introduced paid subcriptions for ps3 at a higher price than xbox live then basically sonys gunna have the old console launch expierence again. plus people like me will lose faith in them cuz if they do that im going to assume theyve gone cenial or crazy. theyll be just giving xbox live the advantage. and theyre poor choice would all be cuz theyre getting greedy. they could mnake the service 10 dollars and thats still 10 more than what theyre getting now plus people would jump from xbox live to psn way cheaper more features think about it. if sony prices this service right they could cut into the 360's live base substantually. they better not f this up by charging more than xbox live. or even more than they have too. look at like this sony the more people u sway to buy it the more money u make even if the fee is tiny. it will work to your advantage. CUZ WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT WHICH ONE HAS MORE FEATURES, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PRICE.....EXAMPLE: PLAYSTATION 3- BLURAY, WIFI, HDMI 1.3, 7.1 SURROUND SOUND, BUILT IN HDD,(UPGRADEABLE), BLUETOOTH, 4 USB PORTS, MORE COMPATIBILITY, BROWSER.) THEN THE 360 WHICH HAD DVD PLUS ALL THESE ADD ONS THAT STILL DIDNT COMPETE WITH PS3. BUT THAT DIDNT MATTER CUZ THE 360 WAS CHEAPER SO EVRYBODY BOUGHT IT instead. SONY DROPS THE PRICE TO THE 360'S LEVEL NOW PEOPLE PREFER PS3 ITS ALL ABOUT THE PRICE, AMOUNT OF FEATURES DOESNT MEAN CRAP TO MOST CONSUMERS......UNFORTUNATE FACT.
1.9: it doesnt say that you have to pay for online multi player. Your still getting that for free its just the premium thing they are are charging for it.
BLOWS Xbox Live out of the Water in every single way. WOW.
All you ps3 fanyboys need to stop acting like you're not butthurt. I'm a big sony supporter, but if i have to pay to play broken online (which is still better than Live.) I will drop them so fast it'll make your head spin. Keep PSN free, all i want is Cross game chat, Sony can get all that other stuff + the $69.99 price tag and shove it up their ass. "1 hour time trial" How about you release a F'ing demo.
But a combo of some of these features, it would be hard not to. Exclusive Experiences with Sony Brands Extended Console Warranty 3 Years Access to Beta Games Member Demo Sharing of Full Game Full Title Trial - 1st Hour Is Free Token Wagering User-to-user Challenges Free Access to PSOne Classics, PSP Minis, and PS3/PSP Themes Discounts on Store Content Member Only In-game Content Cloud Storage Space for Games Online Music Service Online Music Video Service Loyalty Program Rewards A lot of these "freebies" make sense considering it would mostly boil down to data fees and licensing, could be a great revenue stream and customer experience if done right.
This was expected. In order to bring PSN to the same level as Xbox Live, Sony to had to charge for the extra features. Now if they just force everyone that's playing games online to pay then Cross Game Voice Chat might actually be worth it to people.
they need to just throw that all into one package and price it at 39.99, 49.99 at the most
cant imagine them charging less than the post $70 a year amount.
id pay the highest package, but i want to get all the content wherever i live, no region lock on music, vids etc
yeah just keep it 39.99$. Not that 50$ isn't bad for PSNP, heh worth more than the other service, so i actually wouldn't mind paying the 50$ for this one, being that there are more special things than just a 50$ Xgame chat.
I dont care whats offered, but im not willing to pay more than 30 to 40 bucks for this service, and even taht is pushing it for me. Pile on college bills, internet, and the Star Wars MMO I want to play...
since I gave live a chance I'll sure as hell will give my ps3 the same chance. especially since ALL my favorite games are on the ps3 this gen
How much? that is my question.
That is the only question is have for now . and the answer will depends whenever i said F*** you or Thanks. SO sony , make the right choice ...
agree, but screw how much as of now. "Is this real!?!?" is my question.
Now this is an online service you should be paying for...
would give it a go. love the idea about the 1 hour time trial for games.
Poor bots. They pay $50 a year for the revolutionary Twitter/Facebook integration, cross-game voice chat, and advertisements. This premium service is superb just like the PS3. It only does superior premium service.
PSN Premium Option Details *Customer Service Priority Access Priority access to PlayStation’s customer service both online and via phone should you need technical help or have questions about your products. This feature gives you support with little to no waiting. *Exclusive Experiences with Sony Brands Get member-only access to attend exclusive Sony events and experiences throughout the year, including those offered by PlayStation, Sony Pictures, and Sony Music. *Extended Console Warranty 3 Years Get your PS3 warranty extended to 3 years as part of your overall subscription (requires you to keep your subscription active). The standard warranty on your PS3 is 1 year. *Access to Beta Games Get access to Betas of popular games not yet released at retail (Betas offer bigger experiences than typical game demos). You will have the ability to play these games before others do. *Early Access to All Store Content Get early access to select free and purchasable game related content on the PlayStation Store before it’s available to everyone else. This includes games, add-ons, themes, avatars, as well as free game demos. Member Demo Sharing of Full Game Share a level of a game that you just purchased for your PS3 with a subscriber who doesn’t own the game. Your friends could do the same. This would be an exclusive demo not available otherwise to those who haven’t purchased the game. *Cross-game Voice Chat Access Get exclusive member-only access to cross-game voice chat. This is the ability to use your headset to voice chat with friends on your PS3 regardless of what they are doing on the PS3. *Full Title Trial – 1st Hour Is Free Download full versions of select Blu-ray and PSN game titles and have the chance to play the entire game (single or multiplayer) for free for the first hour. After that time you will have the option of purchasing the game to continue playing. *Token Wagering Get a fixed number of tokens per month you can wager with other players in competitive online games. These tokens could then be built up and redeemed for free PlayStation Network games and other content. *User-to-user Challenges Unlock developer-created challenges while playing games. Compete with your friends to see who can be the first to complete these challenges. The PS3 will automatically offer and track challenges and winners and would post results. An example of a challenge is ‘first to get 10 trophies’ in a particular game. *Free Access to PSOne Classics, PSP Minis, and PS3/PSP Themes Get a fixed number of PSOne Classic games, PSP Minis (bite-sized games), and PS3/PSP themes per month to keep for free for as long as you are a subscriber. The PlayStation Store offers these types of content for $2-6 each. *Discounts on Store Content Get weekly member-exclusive discounts on specific games, game add-ons and themes on the PlayStation Store. Discounts may range from 20-50% off regular retail prices. *Member Only In-game Content Get exclusive member-only in-game content for your PS3 or PSP such as new game play options, unlocked in-game weapons or player slots, exclusive levels, costumes/skins, and PlayStation Home spaces. *Trophy Alerts Get automated alerts on your PlayStation XrossMedia Bar, PlayStation.com, and via text message (if you so choose) that alert you when your friends get any trophy or a specific one. This feature is customizable – you can choose which friends to receive alerts from and what kinds of alerts. *Cloud Storage Space for Games Store your game saves on a virtual secure saver. This would allow you to access your game saves at any point in time, and from any PlayStation 3 or PSP console you are logged in on. *Online Music Service Get a streaming music service that allows you to choose your channel based on music style, artist type, etc. and listen to an unlimited number of tracks. This service would be for use outside of playing a game and similar to Pandora or a Last.fm. *Online Music Video Service Get a streaming music video service on your PlayStation 3 that lets you stream music videos from a continuously growing catalog of music and allows you to create a custom playlist to play back. [Presumably an ad-free VidZone? ~Watchful] *Automatic Downloads and Updates Customize the types of updates you want your PS3 to download automatically. These include game updates (patches) for games that you own, firmware updates, and game demos downloaded on your PS3 without manually having to select them and wait for them to finish downloading. Your PS3 can be set to automatically turn on for updates and turn off after completion. *Loyalty Program Rewards Get rewards the longer you are a subscriber and also earn rewards by engaging with PlayStation such as buying games, downloading movies, and rating products. Rewards can include full versions of PlayStation Network games and digital movie rentals from the PlayStation Store. *Facebook Connectivity Access to member-exclusive Facebook features on your PlayStation 3, such as viewing and linking your Facebook accounts with their PSN ID’s, updating your status, editing, uploading and sharing photos, and viewing photo albums of your friends on your TV. *Catch-up TV Get access to popular TV shows and movies through service providers such as Hulu, simply by clicking an icon on your PS3 XrossMedia navigation bar. *Netflix Access Without Disc Access the Netflix video streaming service on your PS3 without the need to insert a special disc into the drive each time to access the service. A separate Netflix subscription would also be needed to enjoy the service. Netflix offers over 17000 popular movies and TV shows for streaming on your laptop or a supported device such as a PS3
^^^ Blind fanboys so loyal to Sony. I am not going to pay for any service so that i can play online. I pay for my ISP is more then enough! PSN premium should be for free too. EDIT: Especially Cross Game Voice Chat Should be for FREE too.
Silver you don't have to pay to play online, ps premium is optional.
There is still a free option, and how are we blind fanboys when the bots have been paying for it all along, and this is just an option. We still get free access to online play and everything that we've always gotten for free, this is just an option, and if it is not that expensive it sounds like a good option to me.
If this catches on, this could move MS in the same direction and allow Live users to game for free online, but pay for exclusive features. Here's hoping.
Netflix Access Without Disc, and Cross-game Voice Chat Acces only for premium members that is just F'ed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on at least give us Netfix without cd were already paying for Netflix, and cross-game voice chat really I mean really, yu let me down Sony!!!!
Yes, because the competition provides that stuff for free right? Hell you can't even play games online or netflix jack without paying on the other console. At least Sony lets you do both for free. So people who pay get more features,that sounds fair to me. I won't be getting it because I won't be using 99% of that stuff but to say Sony is screwing people is a bit ridiculous in comparison to Microsoft.
This is why I think we are taking a step back from innovation, at the price of nickel and dimming the consumer, we are unable to move forward. Putting a cd in to watch netflix might aswell take me back to the stone age. Forget about what Microsoft does, don't justify Sony's methods based on wat Microsoft does. I people like me and yu will be using 99% to 85% of that stuff, then why not have us pay for wat we want sepratly, but no this is all about profit and sonys hope to get us hooked like microsoft does with xbox live.
I agree with you. Sony should keep it for free. Now Sony is trying to be cheap! BAH! Even if it is 1$ i still not gonna take that premium service! Sony playing cheap I will do SAME!
No sh!t its about profit. Sony is a business not a charity. And they can do whatever they want with their business. If you don't like it then sell your PS3 and be rid of them. Sony have taken a blood bath on the PS3 since launch. Heaven forbid they should try and make some money back. They have already provide a ton of services for free. But I guess you would want everything for free until they were driven out of business. I mean they already let users upgrade their hard drives and allow any kind of memory card. No proprietary charging kit, no new generation a/v cable (heck you can use a 10+ year old PS1 video cable if you want). They made NOTHING off any of that stuff. They have bent over backwards giving owners more freedom then any other console manufacturer in history and lost a ton of potential revenue in the process. If I was a Sony investor I would actually be pissed that MS is raking money in from all that stuff while Sony gave consumers a free pass. Now they try to add some pay services and you cry like a little girl. Like I said if you don't like it then sell you ps3. But you know as well as I do that the other options out there are far worse.
I don't agree with the cross-game voice chat, it should be a standard PSN feature.
why? Xbox live force people to pay for their online system with the cross game thing so why should sony give it for free? as long as playing online remains free I think this is a great deal
it should be standard period. too bad for XBL subscribers that they have to pay to Play online. I guess I see your point, coming from PC gaming, that feature needs to be standardized. Although I need third party software to text/voice chat with friends, I pay nothing for it. I guess sony needs something to pull users into paying for premium. if they Slap a $25/year on that then i'm sold.
It's definatly not gonna be $25/year when Qore costs $24.99, and look how little we get out of qore which is only worth it in the long run for betas, themes, early demos, and a few free games.
^^ Qore is epic fail! Edit: @below. Cross-Game Voice Chat should be free!!! I pay for my ISP is more then enough. I not gonna pay for play online for some premium crap.
paying for cross-game voice chat is a major letdown for me and i think also for many gamers too, Sony thumb down for this one :(