A "Multi-Console Online" Game Would Be Logical

IronstarMovement writes: "Everyone has thought it, others have said it, and I am here to elaborate on it. If there was a game that allowed PS3 and 360 users to play together, we all would play it! Could you imagine if this heated console war that has been raging across the internet made it's way into an online game? Or even being able to play a game with your friends who currently play on the other side? Well in imagining so myself, I've come to the conclusion that a game of this nature would not only be revolutionary, but also a huge success for the industry as well."

[tdrules]

no it wouldnt.

360 side, Microsoft would see no point in charging to play online.
PS3 side, the game itself is much different.
the author clearly has a limited knowledge of networking

[ThaTruthMVP]

Well aware of the limitations. Hence writing "Right off the bat, lets go ahead and forget about all of the limitations, hardware and business wise, that have kept us from seeing a game like this surface. It's time for us all to use our imaginations."

[YungXclusive2K9]

lol @ 1 Do you know how many PC games play on different hardware?

[tdrules]

theres a difference between a pc game running on a different CPU/GPU and a console game running on the overly complicated Cell and the 360 architecture.
and to 1.1 I missed that I apologise

[YungXclusive2K9]

Well according to Square Enix, the PS3 version of FFXIV is compatible with the PC version. If the previous online FF game on PC (FFXI) is compatible with the 360 version, why can't a PS3 version of the same game be compatible with 360???

Plus I don't think PC and 360 processors vary that much when developing on them.

[SilentNegotiator]

PSN users might let it slip that not everyone charges to play the second half of your games (MP).

And customer knowledge is their biggest enemy in this market.

[p3rf3ctgam3r]

Article said "Well in imagining so myself, I've come to the conclusion that a game of this nature would not only be revolutionary, but also a huge success for the industry as well."

I know he is talking about PS3 and XBOX360, but to say it would be revolutionary is misleading. FFXI already did it and PS2, XBOX and PC users all were able to enjoy the game together. I think the user is also referencing Shooter type games but still, AGENCY will do it at least with the PC and PS3.

I'd like to see all online games that are multiplatform (i.e. COD) allow gamers to play together (or against each other) regardless of platform.

We can't forget FFXIV may make it's way to the XBOX360 as well, and thus will be the 2nd game to cover 3 major platforms.

[DarkTower805]

My ATT LG phone can't send a text to your Verizon Samsung phone. Of course it can happen, it's just a matter of getting both parties to give the nod.

Personally, I've always wanted something like this to happen, and I'm sure one day it will.

[RockmanII7]

I don't really see this happening. If it does happen, my biggest problem is if someone hacks, you may not be able to report them because they are on the other online service. I would, however, love to see a game where it is PS3 players and PSP players both playing with each other or something around those lines.

[Guitarded]

An excellent shooter. One of my favorite games this generation. You never could tell who was on a PC without asking which I found surprising. Technology is probably not the major stumbling block preventing 360/PS3 cross play from happening.

One thing is for sure, if it happened, that would be the one PS3 game where every one would have a mic and the trash talk from both sides would be out of control.

By the way, 360 would win over PS3 in a cross platform tournament for two reasons. #1 360 controller. #2 Larger and more experienced(1 year head start unless you count the orig. Xbox then longer) Shooter community so more talent and more experienced talent to choose from. Have to admit my logic is solid.

Take that PS3 fans! Just a joke. Don't attack me.

[Shotgun_Roamer]

I love the console war! It drives both companies to make the products better for the consumer. Heil free markets.

[Saaking]

Fanboy wars? That'd be pretty fun actually. Seeing which side plays better. haha. Now THAT would be competitive to the max.

[Prototype]

Final Fantasy 11 with Ballista says hi

[YungXclusive2K9]

hmm

[multipayer]

It all sounds good on paper, but in reality we would just have a bunch of pissed off live customers that can't find people to annoy over a mic and PSN users who really enjoyed the peace and quiet anyway. Than all the developers work would be for nothing.

Syncing Live for windows and xbox will probably continue and it should, but even than, mouse vs analog doesn't make much sense.

[Guitarded]

Hi Final Fantasy XI with Ballista. How are you? You sound lonely. I guess you probably don't get too much play time these days. Cheer up!

EDIT: @ slugboss. I believe my scenario above is more likely than yours. The popularity of N4G illustrates my point for me. Also mouse/keys vs. controller worked well in Shadow Run, as I also stated in a comment above.

EDIT#2: @ #2 qface64. Are you being serious? The first game that made me appreciate the mute button was the very first game I ever played online with a headset. Rainbow Six on Xbox original. It was also the first time I appreciated being able to verbally communicate with my teammates. Voice communication is a double edged sword. The mute button dulls the bad edge quite nicely.

[Traveler]

Yeah let's take this console war online and we'll see which side are better gamers. I think it is a great idea. The only problem is, some of us wouldn't know which side to play for. :(

[presto717]

Killzone 2: ISA vs Helghast
Uncharted 2: Heores vs Villins
Unnamed project: Team Sony vs Team Microsoft. Who's more hardcore?

Lol!!

[Redempteur]

logical maybe ... but everyone want to mark his territory ..

so it won't happen ...
Basicly they would need to use a protocol to communicate that would negate the differences in processing power on each system .. not impossible ..but not that easy .
It would at least prevent the numerous devs to create game that pushes the hardware of each console since they will be limited by that protocol .

PS: the example of game on windows and PC are null and void ( ff11 used a Square enix system ..and by that i mean for( designed for ff11 ) and the others example for the first xbox are null since the first xbox is just a pc in disguise ..not much to do .

actually it's impossible to this for each game ( technicaly ) and when it's done you can bet that you won't exploit your hardware to the max ...

Sure like FF11 you can design your own connexion protocols but let's face it only a few devs actually polish their online tools ( most of them use standars networks tools to bluid their online parts ..)
Doing so is NOT easy and require a lot of work so most of them won't ..

[Persistantthug]

The reason that this won't happen aren't technical. I don't care what kind of network is running, there is ALWAYS a way to make 2 different networks talk to each other. It might take alot of servers and engineers to make it, but it could be done.

The reason that this is likely NOT to happen, even with Final Fantasy 14, is because Microsoft will not allow XBOX LIVE to be compromised.
In FF14's case, for example, what if Final Fantasy 14 becomes a hit and goes on to compete with WoW? Final Fantasy, as a franchise, is already a system seller by itelf, so why would Microsoft allow FF14 on XBOX LIVE if it's already free to play on PSN? Potentially, that game could singlehandedly cause the downfall of XBOX LIVE because people may just choose to not renew LIVE subscriptions in favor of PSN. Microsoft would never allow that to happen...never ever, and they'd be fools to let it happen.

[multipayer]

Games lag enough without this stupid scheme... I'd really like to hear the argument of how crippling mouse control to play competitvely vs analog makes a heap of sense. I'll give you a bubble, because I pity the foo' Guitarded!

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

U guys mess it up for all of us..

[GameGambits]

Final Fantasy XI says hello from PS2, PC, and Xbox 360(plus you can play it on your PS3 if you wish to).

FFXIV will surely do the same IF they really do bring it to 360 later on.

[Redempteur]

you should read my comment one more time .

i said it's possible
i said each company is marking his territory (making exchange of information difficult)

and i said that while possible it would prevent the full usage of one console

in short you disagree with me on something we both agree on ... congrats

[qface64]

i can picture said game in my head would be a nightmare to play online

would probably be the first game that would make me happy the mute button existed

[PhoenixDevil]

It would definitely cut down some fanboys if a games cross platform online, or at the very least contain them into more secluded area of gaming

Another great thing would be tournaments PS3 Vs 360 : modern warfare 2, the elite vs the elite, you just know the fanboys would give it everything they got to win

That could be some pretty awesome gaming, and it would be good for the people who don't have both consoles but with friends that do (me) unfortunately I don't see it happening soon

[Timberland2K9]

That would be awesome

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

It would be perfect....they probably would sell the same amount of games

[Ps_alm3k]

M$ is like the North korea in Online gaming, that is why....

[DaReapa]

Worst...Idea...Ever!

[Dutch Boogie]

Nar i'd rather stick to playing on psn with less annoying racist extremists.

[Guitarded]

They are just to ignorant to buy a headset!

[DelbertGrady]

No! PSN gamers are all blonde, blue-eyed, highly intelligent and physically superior to other online gamers. That's FACT.

[BurninDragon08]

Anyone that isn't okay with it is just a fanboy. Plain and simple.

[RamiHixxy]

meh would be good but i would not play with XBL people because all they going to do is swear to ur family lol.

so ill stay with PSN

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Great article. I whole heartedly support this idea.

[DRIIV]

is what to do if someone has the same gamertag as someone another person's PSN id.

[kneon]

The system would just display the system they are on as part of their ID. Such as adding an _X or _P postfix

[The BS Police]

Especially since both Xbox Live and PSN are completey diffirent services.

[Persistantthug]

Final Fantasy 11 did just fine with XBOX 360 and PS2 AND PC.

Doing it for PS3 can't be that far of a stretch.

[Advari]

I'll stick to PSN no annoying little kids yelling and screaming along with racial names being called because they suck at a game

[Fragger2k8]

I have both an Xbox 360 and a PS3, and they both have stupid annoying kids and people being complete idiots over mics. The only reason it seems worse on Xbox is because there's like triple the amount of players, or more, compared to Playstation.

Anyway on topic with the article, I've always been waiting to be able to play games online with other consoles. I'm really surprised it hasn't became something most games do yet. I would at least love to have one game where 360 and PS3 players can battle it out, that could be great as long as it was a fun game to play.

[kneon]

Really? The number of people on each service is irrelavent. There are only so many people on each game and if it's a multi-platform game then it's usually the same number on every platform.

I agree there are idiots on both services, but it does seem to be that there are fewer of them talking on PSN. That's the upside of not providing everyone with a mic.

I think it also depends on the game. I find a lot more morons with mics on COD than on Killzone for example. It seems the Killzone demographic is typically a bit older than the average COD player. In fact I find most Killzone players to be very helpful and cooperative.

[Traveler]

Uncharted 2 is a game I play all the time on the PSN and believe me there is a lot of trash talking, racial slurs and general verbal abuse being slung around. It's honestly no better in that regard than some of the games I play on xbox live.

[outlawlife]

the only difference I see when I play on psn is the fact that not nearly as many people have mics but you still run into idiot, if the same percentage of players had mics on psn you would see the same garbage just as often

[GamerallDay]

When I played "MAG" Beta that was the first thing I thought of.
Xbox 360 gamers vs. PS3 gamers.
To be honest I don't know which side I'll join.

[ThaBx]

No it wouldn't, that wold spell the end of a console and the start of a one system Industry. Just think abut it, if a game did this and then others games fallow suet there wold be no need 2 have distinctive consoles which means the end of the gaming Industry

[Foliage]

I don't know about this...

Think about the xbox user. How do they possibly limit the speed of the Playstation online play to give the xbox user who has suffered with lag in almost every game a fair chance? It wouldn't be fair. Also, I don't want to deal with the little homo kids on xbox live, it's the reason why I sold my 360. You feel like you are in a suit playing in a sandbox in an elementary school yard. It's pathetic.

Please leave the online PS3 experience strictly for mature individuals.

Then you have the terrible dead zones on the 360 controller. The more precise and reactive PS3 controller would have PS3 users running circles around the xbox users.

[talltony]

I think it would be unfair mostly because of the higher precision in the dualshock 3 joysticks vs. The 360 controller joysticks.. If this was a competetive fps mp game, 360 users wouldn't stand a chance with this kind of disadvantage. If you can't turn fast you can't shoot fast.

[King Hippo]

Then I'll laugh at all the xbots and tell them how much of an idiot they are for paying to play the game online while I play it for free. Then I can listen as they all cry about how people stole their kills/weapon.

[Domer25]

Hell yes, i'm all for this. The competitiveness would reach new heights.

[TheTeam06]

I wish

[MajestieBeast]

Hehe it would bring the console wars to live.

[gamingisnotacrime]

Just because N4G is full of fanboys, does not mean the real world of gaming is full of fanboys, and having cross platform online action would increase the value of multiplat games significantly, because there will be a lot more people to play online and probably the comunity will grow stronger. This would make console makers to relly more heavily on exclusives, because it would not matter what console most of your frind had, online is all in.
Good idea, might happen but not for a long while.

[ZombieAutopsy]

If FF14 comes to xbox360 i believe it will happens as i think FF11 servers were ps2,xbox360, and pc. I wouldnt be against it though it would be funny seeing all the xbox vs ps3 clan type matches.

[bjornbear]

I'm intrigued.

[UrbanJabroni]

Tech-wise, no. But neither MS nor Sony will allow it. Many have tried, and the answers are always the same. It won't happen. Never.

[Digitaldude]

Meh I dont have a problem, More people to play with.

[LostCypher11]

I think it's a great Idea on Paper. shadow run was able to Pull it off. I think if any company was able to make this happen it would be EA due to the fact that they always use there own servers. Question is if MS or sony would ever allow it.

[UrbanJabroni]

It isn't like this is some revolutionary idea no one in the industry has ever thought of...we all have. All of us.

In fact, from a networking perspective, it is quite trivial. We had cross-platform play on one of our titles (in house) very early on. There are two main issues that prevent this from happening:

XBL security layers in the protocol make it virtually impossible to interface. Throw in that you can't duplicate any functionality that exists via XBL (matchmaking), it won't happen.

Platform owners don't want it. Period. Many of us have fought for years to get this going...it just isn't going to happen. Ever.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Wouldn't work PS3 fans don't play online... or buy games. Kinda need both to play online.

[Oner]

^^^

[ZombieAutopsy]

all of your other accounts down to 1 bubble??

[Magnus]

I honestly would not mind trying out a multi console online playing againest 360 owners that own the same game i have on my PS3 I am down for that and vice versa.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

If we were to all demand such a game it would happen.....We are the consumer we have the power

[Bush]

Shame it does not happen i think the demand is there for a game that allows PS3 vs 360 online. But both companies are full of pride and it won't happen its a shame thoe.

[kewlkat007]

why I hate the PS3 controller for shooters..haha

[ksquared]

MS would never allow it. Plain and simple. Why would they let non-paying people play with their superior paying customers?

[LinuxGuru]

Final Fantasy XI has been doing this for *years*

PS2 / PC / Xbox 360

[rob6021]

The reality is Microsoft won't let this happen. It would undoubtedly educate 360 owners that PS3 owners actually don't pay for online. You can imagine the smack talk, and every single ps3 owner would be slamming the fact MS charges for online, and what is essentially the same thing that Sony offers. Until Microsoft stops selling the illusion that their service is better than Sony's, this will never happen. Xbox live is a closed network.

FFXIV won't happen on 360 for this reason alone, MS wants their own servers, they don't want to mix with other consoles - not to mention catering an MMO to 13gb hard drive owners on 360. MS let it slide when it was just PS2 owners and they were desperate for a Final Fantasy game with FFXI.