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God of War 3 Dev's Message to Bayonetta, Dante's Inferno, etc.

Split-Screen: "Bruno Velazquez is Lead Game Animator for SCEA and working on God of War 3, and not too long ago, he delivered a message to all upcoming action/adventure contenders, namely Bayonetta, Dante's Inferno, Darksiders and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow."

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danthegardner5242d ago

Really talk about Dante's Inferno etc. He just said the team is trying to make the best game possible.

Lifendz5242d ago

is about as much of a ripoff of GOW as possible without having Kratos. Too bad the visuals on it don't even match GOWII.

gaffyh5242d ago

This is how a developer with any amount of decency speaks, take note Turn 10 and Greenburg.

DarkTower8055242d ago

Who cares if it's a ripoff. I played the Dante's Inferno demo and it was amazing, I seriously can't wait for it. I'm also going to buy GOW3 day one.

All you should care about is playing great games, both of which will be.

cereal_killa5242d ago

DarkTower805 is right the good thing about having the chance to play both means you get choices yes it's a clone but it looks like its going to be a good game to play and that's really all that matters.

wages of sin5242d ago

Feel free to add Ken Kutaragi and Kaz Hurai to that list as well. The king of talking crap is Sony. Such classic comments like...

“The PS3 is not a game machine “

“Beating us for a short moment is like accidentally winning a point from a Shihan (Karate master), and Microsoft is still not a black belt. Just like with their operating systems, they might come out with something good around the third generation of their release.”

“I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architect’s blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. It’s the same as that.”

“Microsoft shoots for the moon. Sony shoots for the sun.”

"This time, Microsoft has stated clearly that it is going after PlayStation. However, they're going not after the PlayStation 3, but the PlayStation 2. They were looking at 2, and that's why Xbox 360 became like that."

“With the PS3, our intentions have been to create a machine with supercomputer calculation capabilities for home entertainment.”

PS3 is “for consumers to think to themselves ‘I will work more hours to buy one’. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else.”

“The PS3 will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline.”

“Microsoft is trailing behind us, but they are not a threat. They are good at improving [on products], but we will be advancing to the next level with revolutionary technology.”

“We’re not going to equip the PS3 with a HDD by default, because no matter how much capacity we put in it, it won’t be enough.”

http://www.ps3today.com/Blo...

Yeah, Mircrosoft is SO arrogant. Find me an equivalent statement by Microsoft or Nintendo. You can't. PS3 fanboys are delusional.

DarK-SilV5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

"Too bad the visuals on it don't even match GOWII"

you made me laugh

the game looks fine

don't downgrade the game blindly for the sake of another game

buying both day one

Timesplitter145242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

Too bad I don't give a damn about visuals as long as they're ok.

Seriously, this is all very sad. We all know this is PS3 fanboyism in all its glory (PS3 guy here). GOW3 graphics are nowhere close to Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2. They're just above-average. And Dante's Inferno demo was just as amazing as GOW3's demo.

Both games will be great. Get a damn life and stop complaining for the sake of protecting your system of choice from an imaginary threat.

gaffyh5242d ago

@1.5 - Dude just look at anything Don Mattrick and Aaron Greenburg has said, and it outweighs that list completely.

There's a difference between what Sony was saying and what MS say. Sony said certain things in order to stay in the competition, you really think they would just say "yes Xbox 360 is better," are you so f***ing stupid that you can't understand that this is PR speak?

Microsoft's PR on the other hand go directly for developers and games, calling the worse than their own games.

Seriously people are really stupid if they believe all the PR babble that goes on, do you really think that Sony didn't want rumble in the PS3 controller? They said rumble is last gen, remember that? Why? Because they were locked in a suit with immersion and didn't want to seem like they WANTED or NEEDED rumble.

raztad5242d ago

As the first post stated, there is NO message to Bayonetta or any other game for that matter. This is just a hit whoring title.

Guy is just saying they know there will be competition next year but they are committed to make GoW3 the best game possible.

wages of sin5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

Seven disagrees with factual statements. You fanboys are just as bad as the press you claim disses the PS3. Why can't you just be fans of gaming? All the companies do and say things, good and bad. Stop being so damn ignorant.

wages of sin5242d ago

That is going to be how you support your argument?

I would like for you to list these equivalent comments. Feel free to do so.

You say that Sony only said those things to stay in the competition. So, if that's the case, how do you differentiate between that and MS or the big N making comments about their products? Surely if your going to be intellectually honest, you'd have to agree that given your explanation, they are ALL going to say and do things too compete because that is the nature of business is it not?

Again, where are these equivalent statements? I don't know about you, but telling me that I'll feel the need to have a second job to afford your product when it took you several years after release to give me a reason to own one, pretty ballsy. Sony's problem is they assumed that they had no competition and it bit them in the rear.

2009 has been the beginning of a huge increase in gaming value for the PS3 and I'm loving it, but, let's not be selective with our memories about the recent past. I give props to Sony for turning things around. I have three awesome consoles to game on this generation so I don't' have to be an ignorant hater.

How about you and the rest of the PS3 fanboy crew?

IdleLeeSiuLung5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

agreed!

Sony was known as the company being arrogant! That is how I have always perceived them until recently when their new CEO took over and turned it around.

MS is no better though. However, I have never heard as insulting statements towards consumer as much as Sony has.

PS3 is “for consumers to think to themselves ‘I will work more hours to buy one’. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else.”

“The PS3 will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline.”

I do find this one funny:

"This time, Microsoft has stated clearly that it is going after PlayStation. However, they're going not after the PlayStation 3, but the PlayStation 2. They were looking at 2, and that's why Xbox 360 became like that."

Yet ironic, since the PS3 has been copying the 360 like no other console this generation!

This one from Kaz actually bothers me:

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"

They are intentionally making it more expensive for gamers to buy games and holding back development so they can have a 10-year lifecycle!

MS says some arrogant stuff, but usually it is directed at the competitor. Sony just shots themselves in the foot sometimes. Never insult your customers!

HighDefinition5242d ago

If everyone is soooooooo unconcerned w/ good graphics, why even own a PS3 or 360.

Stick w/ the PS2, it has the best games of any console made.

I like great games, and I like them even more when they look like Uncharted2, Killzone2, Heavy Rain or GOW3.

HighDefinition5242d ago

I have both of the consoles that matter to me if I own, the 360 and the PS3.

The PS3 is the better system.

PS. The PS3 isn`t just a gaming machine, I`ve when weeks w/o play any games and still used the thing everyday for something. Music, BR Movies, Internet, Pics.

You want a better quote from MS, I don`t even need to find a link.

MS has said multiple times that the 360 is the best console ever made w/ the best titles ever made.

That`s arrogant and delusional.

danthegardner5242d ago

Or confident if my consoles won the last 2 console generations. Beating out the competition by tens of millions of units. I think anyone in their situation would be arrogant. It was annoying and Sony is paying the price with the bad media image. But they are trying to bring high quality games to their console, and that is what they are doing. And wages of sin, even of what you say is true, people are going to disagree with you because they don't want to what you are saying. If I said something you didn't like that was true, you would most likely disagree with me.

Lifendz5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

I'm tired of people acting like graphics are so insignificant. I know gameplay makes a game but graphics are right there with it. Like HD said, I didn't spend almost 600 bucks on a PS3 to see sub-par visuals. I also didn't pay that to get sub-par gameplay. If a game has a problem in either area, I'm probably passing.

And a rip-off isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Kratos is merely three months away. Why buy this game when the game they copied is coming out in a few months is all I was saying. If you enjoyed the game good for you. I'd rather wait for the real thing-God of War III.

Protecting my system of choice? Bro, stop projecting. I stated my opinion. I wouldn't care if all of you bought Dante's over God of War III. I'd feel the same way if a 360 only owner passed on Quantum Theory because, say, Gears of War 3 was on the horizon.

TheTruth20095242d ago

You have to understand something.
The PS3 Supporters on this website are cowards.
Instead of a factual rebuttal, they resort to name-calling, diversions, bubble taking, and phantom disagrees.
They have no proof of what they say, so they take the desperate route.

It's typical.

I find it hilarious.

But they lack the intelligence to give a rebuttal. It's just the way it is.

I want to thank you for that article though. Never read that before.

Even SONY says it's not a games machine. WOW.

More proof for the hypocrites. :-)

ActionBastard5242d ago

I too didn't spend the amount of money I spent on my 60GB in May of 07, to play games that look like Fable 2. Graphics are why we buy HD consoles people. It just so happens PS3 gives you graphics and gameplay. Dante's Inferno was a fun demo. So was Bayonetta. But GoW3 will eat those games alive...and those will be great games imho.

heroicjanitor5242d ago

Look at that list then look at yourself in the mirror. You really need to find something better to do than keep a black book of comments Sony made.

sikbeta5242d ago

They don't need to bash other games ala T-10 lol

GOW3 is going to be pure EPICNESS, for sure

Gamers FTW!!!

fallingdove5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

@ wages of sin

You must be blind to the disproportionate dirt that microsoft flings. Let me help restore your sight. Turn 10 comments omitted -

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It's pretty clear to any gamer out there that you can already count 6-7 blockbuster exclusive titles that are coming in 2010. Halo: Reach will clearly be the biggest game of 2010 hands-down"

"The big thing about next year is that every single month we have a AAA title starting in January."

"We're the only console offering digital distribution of entertainment content,"

"You can't underestimate that we're half the price of the PS3 at a time when consumers were looking for great value,"

"The PS3 was down in February two percent even with the launch of Killzone 2 -- that's months of year-over-year declines. Xbox continues to head north while the PS3 is heading south. We're gaining share.

"But what we hear from our partners is that it's not just PS3, it's also PS2 down 62 percent year over year. With that business declining, and with the PS3 business declining, it's been described to me as hemorrhaging at retail right now, and it just keeps getting worse. What we're finding in our research is that a large portion of the volume we're driving with Xbox 360 purchasers is actually PS2 owners choosing Xbox for the next generation. We're switching people from the PlayStation brand over to the Xbox brand."

"The Lost & Damned had sold at retail, it would have outsold Killzone 2"

"Xbox 360 titles currently have over 130 titles rated over 80 on Metacritic, while rival platforms don't even have 100."

"We have been fighting Sony's promises from the day we entered the market. Three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get Killzone out the door."

"Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays for a product that has appears to have little to no buzz. Where are the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where is the long-promised video store?"

"Where are all the other products using and networking with their Cell chip? How come Blu-ray did not result in better games? What happened with Sixaxis and rumble? Where is the complete 1080p game library we were promised? If Blu-ray, as they said, would be such a catalyst to PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months not seen any lift since the format victory?"

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Shall I continue??

Every company uses investor speak, Microsoft notoriously so. Don't be so naive.

The business compensations vary among the big 3: Sony is associated with Arrogant comments, Microsoft uses smear campaigns and anti-competitive tactics, Nintendo uses denial.

solidjun55242d ago

I find it funny you call people delusional when you need to look at the mirror. You seem to be loving all of the arrogance MS spews around. You can find all the sony execs from 2006 but you can't seem to find the equiavlent from MS execs? please...just type Aaron Greenburg and you'll find your gold at the end of the rainbow you enthusiast.

cmrbe5242d ago

The difference is if you read what Sony said anyone with half a brain can tell its just PR talk and most are not serious and are borderline jokes.

For example.

Sony :
“Beating us for a short moment is like accidentally winning a point from a Shihan (Karate master), and Microsoft is still not a black belt". ????. I don't know about you guys but i think that was fu*king hilarious.

MS :
"The PS3 was down in February two percent even with the launch of Killzone 2 -- that's months of year-over-year declines. Xbox continues to head north while the PS3 is heading south. We're gaining share.

Can you tell the difference?. The difference is MS is serious about what they said when they are bashing competition. They are not good sports like Sony.

It is freaking hilarious that x360 fans like you take what Sony said seriously. Thats you guys problem. We all know Sony always say outlandish stuff when Ken was in charge of the SCE. PS2 controlling missiles anyone??. 4D and 120 FPS??. Come on!. When Ken said those i just laugh my head off. Ken always say outlandish stuff. Thats why he is called Crazy Ken!! for christ sakes but we love him for it.

@DarkTower805. I agree. I played the demo and it awesome. There is no reason why PS H&S fans should miss out on DI. I am getting it day one as well.

cyberwaffles5242d ago

i thought all three games, or rather demos, were a lot of fun. just played the GOW3 demo last night and it was pretty good. bayonetta wasn't bad either except it doesn't seem to have much of a story. dantes inferno was really fun for me.

yes it's a rip off, but it's still its own game. i like the atmosphere and upgrade system a lot.

don't see how anyone could complain about any of the demos, they were all solid. i was kind of expecting more of GOW3 though. graphics aren't bad and kratos has an excellent character model, but i wasn't blown away by the visuals. i know i won't be saying that around the game's release though since it's surely upgraded by now.

either way, i know for a fact i'm getting GOW3 and inferno (i love visceral); not too sure if i'm going to rent bayonetta however.

AKNAA5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

I'm playing the god of war collection at the moment(freakin' awesome!), so when I played the gow3 demo, in all honesty... I was not really impressed, looks the same, just with more detail and framerate was not consistant but I'm sure the finished product will be great!

Dantes inferno was a complete ripoff of gow, but I luved it regardless! it played so smooth at 60fps! unlike bayonetta... I thought it played and looked okay,until I tried gow3 and DI. now that game just looks sloppy imo... can't say about the 360 version though, I hear its better...

bnaked5242d ago

GOW is the only game without competition..

And btw, who the f*ck likes copies?

WildArmed5242d ago

Basically says:
We are competing with the best..
oh wait, THATS US! LOL

RememberThe3575242d ago

Another hypocrite to add to the list of N4G hypocrites.

The funny thing is that most of the quotes from Sony are true, but the fact that Sony said it makes it bad.

Hell even most of the stuff MS said was true. How are you going to try an take PR talk and throw it in the faces of Sony fans, like we don't agree with it?

Your first post only made me laugh.

Saaking5242d ago

Wow, notice how Sony devs (such as this one and the KZ2 dev) speak about other games. No bashing whatsoever. Now compare that to MS devs. I wonder why there's such a big difference.

Greywulf5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

#1. Gameplay is always most important(we are playing games)
#2. This is "NEXT GEN" which was illustrated with HD visuals, bigger and better games. No one was awed by pre-rendered "gameplay" mechanics, no. Everyone has been hyping up this gen for the visuals.. Resident Evil, Madden, Gears.. etc.. Because gameplay is pretty much the same for games. Not too many new genres are going to be made kids.

I laugh at all the people who pretend "well graphics don't matter!", yet are the same ones hovering around Cynamites latest comparison thread.

Graphics + Good Gameplay > Gameplay + 4 discs.

Graphics don't matter when your game looks underwhelming. But when a blurry texture is less blurrier on the 360, stop the presses.

Just don't mention Uncharted Or Killzone, or hell.. even ratchet or flower..

it only does.......

"Next Gen" Visuals.

Enigma_20995242d ago

... You do know that Kutaragi is gone, and Hirai corrected him later by clarifying that "the PS3 is a game machine, period."

Oh, but if you don't remember, here...

http://www.wired.com/gameli...

I'd go further with this, but it looks like they've got it covered.

DaTruth5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

Sony was arrogant. But nobody gets too upset at well deserved arrogance. The problem with Greenturd and Turn 10 was "Douchebaggery"!

This is the difference. You guys keep pitting "arrogance" against "douchebaggery"!

Sony is entitled to their arrogance because everything they said was true! Nothing entitles you to be a douchebag!

What Sony said is the equivalent of Stephen Hawking saying "I'm the smartest man in the world"; However arrogant that might be, it is entirely true and you can't fault him for stating about himself, what everyone knows to be true and state about him all the time! Nobody would fault MS if they stated "we have the most successful OS in history!"

goflyakite5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

the good thing is that, I, a playstation3 owner, have the chance to own all of them.

although, it's only GOW3 for me. played the demos for Dante's Inferno and Bayonetta and thought they were good. maybe it's just that i actually find the GOW storyline appealing.

anyways, good statements by the dev, unlike some of the recent 360 devs.

masterofpwnage5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

wages of sin haha
omg you got pwn so bad ha imean look at all the comments of comebacks about ms pr

bro you must be a very very stupid person to think that sony pr is the worst. all in all every pr will the same thing but to think sony is worst then ms wow your really just blind and stupid. if ms said they found the cure for cancer and told them to worship them i bet you will the first person on all 4.

why did you even post up that retarted comment, trying to prove something.
ha and 360 fanboys complain when we go in there article.
i say go ahead troll but atleast do it good.

YoungKingDoran5242d ago

whoa... those quotes wages of sin busted out with seriously are pretty awesome, and i agree with them all. thanks buddy for making me think sony is that little bit more kickass

DevastationEve5242d ago

cmrbe is so right!

seriously, when crazy ken made sony fanboys believe they need to spend 600 for twoaxis and memory stick readers so that they can play games in hd i laughed my ass off!

hahaha, gosh ps3 was ken's ultimate joke...too bad it got him kicked off sony's stage ;-)

Christopher5242d ago

Good comments from a dev. Like to hear more of this rather than trash talk.

As far as Dante, Bayonetta, and Darksiders compared to GoW3... I say bring them all on. A good game is a good game, even if it's #2 or #3 in the same genre.

IdleLeeSiuLung5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

Every company will talk smack about their competitor, regardless of if it is Sony or MS or any other company.

However, Sony is the only company I remember that insults their customers!

PS3 is “for consumers to think to themselves ‘I will work more hours to buy one’. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else.”

“The PS3 will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline.”

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"

By the way, saying your product is better than someone else is one thing, but saying someone else product is terrible or inferior is another.

"This time, Microsoft has stated clearly that it is going after PlayStation. However, they're going not after the PlayStation 3, but the PlayStation 2. They were looking at 2, and that's why Xbox 360 became like that."

Anyone with a half wit can see that! This is not some developer or lower ranking employee talking. We got the father of PS talking trash here. MS isn't much better, but the way Sony put things are far more insulting.

UNCLEFESTER5241d ago

GOW3 dev showed some class didn't run anyones game down take notice Turn 10 as far as insulting goes how bout puttin a broke ass console on the market which people put their hard earned cash on

potenquatro5241d ago

A bunch of no lifers that are on this site EVERY DAY, ALL THE TIME claiming the ps3's non-existant "superiority", acting like they make love to the damn thing, calling somebody else a no lifer. At least he posted facts.

It is a GOW3 thread so he shouldn't comment on anything 360. But still, the irony was too much, and I had to comment on it lol.

Srsly though, ps3 fanboys are the biggest no lifers on earth this gen. I'm kinda trolling so I'll be leaving now. I hope all the other trolls leave aswell so that real gaming fans can enjoy this info.

Enigma_20995239d ago

Tell me, did you type this with one hand while jerking off into your 360 disc tray?

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Fishy Fingers5242d ago

Acknowledging there existence is hardly a "message to". Headline is well off. Doesn't that make a change.

lightningsax5242d ago

Yeah, at first I thought we were in for yet another unprofessional comment from NeoGAF or something. This was a fine comment to the fans. There's no problem in acknowledging your competition, and it's certainly not a "message." If each company knows what they're doing, they should know who their competitors are.

Great job on the dev's part.

To sum up the headliner: "This just in: GOW3 Dev knows there are other action games coming out next year! Newwwwws, ladies and gentlemen!"

FiftyFourPointTwo5242d ago

“I understand that next year we will have lots of competition with games like Bayonetta, Darksiders, Dante’s Inferno, and Castlevania but we all we can do is worry about making our game good and making it a fitting end to the trilogy…"

Out of the four games he mentioned I am most interested in Castlevania.

Kain815242d ago

2.CASTLEVANIA: LORD OF SHADOWS (must Buy/ Day one)
3.DANTES INFERNO (must Buy)
4.DARKSIDERS (on my Buy list)
5.Bayonetta (on my Radar, maybe buying this later)

Lifendz5242d ago

Wow. Did you play the demo?

Timesplitter145242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

Dante's Inferno's demo was awesome

You're mad

Rock Bottom5242d ago

I'm getting Castlevania, and maybe Bayonetta... and of course GoW3. :)

Lifendz5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

I didn't really see anything special. With God of War III being so close I don't see any reason to pick up a rip-off. But hey, if it interests you then to each their own. I seriously was only asking you a question and not trying to be sarcastic with you.

And there's only one "e" in my name. If you're going to make my name grammatically correct then you might as well insert a space between the two words ;).

lightningsax5242d ago

Played the Dante demo, and I'll give it a rent. Impressed by the out-of-game cutscenes, but not nearly as impressed by the controls. Maybe I'm just spoiled after playing Bayonetta.

GOWIII on the other hand... it could play like a ton of bricks and I'd still get it for the epic method of storytelling they do!

badz1495242d ago

bayonetta's control? you mean like this one?

badz1495242d ago

I've played DI's demo and I think it's quite good. although I'll be honest here that there's still a lot to be desired in graphical department but it plays smooth 60fps and I'm a fan of a good story! as long as the game has good story (looks promising), I'm in! but looking at my budget for next year, I'll definitely buy GoW3 and finish that 1 first before getting DI. not saying that GoW3 will definitely be better than DI, it's just that I mainly buy exclusives early on and multiplats later on when I have finished all the exclusives I bought - like Dead Space, Bad Company, Bioshock etc.

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PimplePopperMD5242d ago

You young fools need to raise your standards. God of War 3 is not that great. The graphics are mediocre at best. Do you know that word, mediocre?
Been there, done that...twice. And God of War is still the best in the franchise. No Jaffe, no sale. If darksiders is on your 'buy' list, move those sport games over! Sub standard idiots.

Oldsnake0075242d ago

lol without jaffe GOW is fail ???

Did you ever played GoW2 ??? IGNs best PS2 game of all time?
to be selected best game from over 2000 is a big archievement.

Scarfy5242d ago

If God of War 3 isn't that great, then why is everyone else copying it? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. GOW3 is the leader, not the follower.

Oh, and just for you,

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riksweeney5242d ago

lol! Good one scrappy, so true!

Sarcasm5242d ago

Who's going to take a guy named PimplePopperMD seriously?

Then again, people always take it to the heart on everything I say and my handle's sarcasm.

badz1495242d ago

you do know that Jaffe just made the 1st GoW, right? and then he left Sony for his own company. Cory Barlog was the lead for GoW2 and that bettered everything the 1st one did and regarded as among the best PS2 game of all time! and that guy also left Sony after that for the reason I don't remember (too lazy to look for it)! GoW CoO also had someone else as the project leader! GoW series has never had the same lead dev since the 1st one on PS2.

the graphic is mediocre? really now? and be there done that? that is pretty much every other games on the market now except for some! don't even try talking about standards when sub-HD FPS are the most popular games on the market now!

diatom5242d ago (Edited 5242d ago )

PimplePopperMD?

Should have been BubblePopperMD...

YogiBear5242d ago

Mediocrity is what your post is full of. GOW III is obviously too much for you.

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yog-sothot5242d ago

It's good to read that kind of stuff. Not PR BS as usual.

And I really wonder how good was the game build shown to the press this month...

It's true there are some good action games in 2010. Well, the demos of bayonetta and Dante's Inferno were slightly dissapointing for me, but I am more interested in Castelvania, Darksiders and, obviously, GOW3 (and I'm also quite interested in Warhammer 40k Space Marine... but that's maybe not for 2010)

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JL2930169d ago

Both requels over 2 and 3? Clowns. Those are two of the most boring games I've ever played.

Snookies12169d ago

GoW 3 was amazing, but I personally hated just one thing. (This is on me alone, because I was dumb, lol.) I hated that you couldn't skip cutscenes on repeat playthroughs. I had to go back through the game a third time because I missed one trophy accidentally on my way to the platinum... The cutscenes were great the first go round, even the second... But the third was pretty agonizing.

Haven't played Ragnarok, but I still think GoW 4 is a wonderful game in its own right. Not sure how I would stack them up against each other honestly.

Monstieur169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

I don't consider the reboot part of the original series. The original series were high-skill games with combos and rewards for mixing things up.

solideagle168d ago

lol square, square and triangle is the only combo you needed. I have played all of them on the hardest difficulties...

Golfcoachh169d ago

Maybe I’m just old school but I just couldn’t get into the last two. Maybe it’s the slower action and more story telling but the original trilogy was by far my favorite.

Crows90169d ago

It's not that youre old school. They're different genres

JL2930168d ago (Edited 168d ago )

Me either, at all. It's just yap yap yap. They try to be a RPG's instead of being action games like they used to be.

Fluke_Skywalker168d ago

I'd put the two psp games over 3 in terms of story any day. But not over 2.

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TheEnigma313169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

My favorite was part 2 and I think Ragnarok is better that 2018.

Shane Kim169d ago

The newer games are better imo.

ravens52169d ago

There is no worst. Except for Ascension, only cause I didn't play it lol. They are all masterpieces. 1,2,3, 2018 and Ragnarok. 1 of, if not the greatest video game franchise...besides MetalGear.

Snookies12169d ago

Oh wow, I actually forgot that Ascension even existed... I never played it either.

Crows90169d ago

I like ascension. It was different and some interesting combat additions.

darthv72169d ago

If you didnt play it, how could you call it the worst? Its not as bad as the media portrayed it. Honestly the worst are those flash games. they arent even considered true GoW games but in name only. At least Ascension is a real GoW game.

ravens52168d ago

Not saying it's a terrible game. Just mean it's at the bottom of my list. I played a little bit of it. Jus to me, compared to the other main games, it's last.

Fluke_Skywalker168d ago

Ascension is the only GOW game I never finished. Hated it.

Inverno169d ago

Can't agree, older games do so much more than the last two. More weapons, magic abilities, enemies are more varied, level design is also more aesthetically pleasing, and agree with those who say that they shouldn't have removed jumping. Was a time I'd agree, but those old games are so so much better, that they really should've looked into bringing into the reboot/sequels.

Crows90169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

If a game is good then a game is good. Doesn't matter what came before or what comes after.

Inverno169d ago

Of course it matters. If not for what what came before there wouldn't be an after. And if something is great before then you strive to make it just as good if not better, after. I personally don't think there's a fair way to judge the new with the old because the newer games are still essentially a reboot, and went a way different direction. But I still believe the old games did it better. I'm probably bias though since I've been going back to old games and have been finding that they lack all the annoying aspects that devs have shoehorned into new games to fluff out game time.

Crows90168d ago

@Inverno

Im not talking about the passage of time here. Im talking about individual pieces of software. If a game is good then it is good. Thats not a controversial statement. You can compare good with good...sure. But you still end up with good. Now if there is a bad game in the mix and you compare you do end up with some differentials between them...makes sense to compare and see where it went wrong.

But theyre different genres and styles which were individually executed very well.

And no. The new games are not a reboot. Theyre a new direction but simply a continuation.
Tomb raider was a reboot.

Inverno168d ago

The new games are definitely a reboot, and a continuation, it can be both which it is. And a good game might be good, but my point is that if there are things done better before it then there's plenty of room for critiquing and trying to make whatever comes after better rather than just good.

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5 Of the Most Unlikeable Video Game Protagonists

There are good video game protagonists, and there are bad video game protagonists.

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GhostScholar207d ago (Edited 207d ago )

I disagree that max is unlikable. Chloe is infinitely more unlikable in my opinion.

gold_drake207d ago

omg chloe was awful. i really hated her at the end haha

Cacabunga206d ago

Abby was absolute trash protagonist in every way..
Tidus was so meh to me..
On villain side, the one i didn’t like wa Micah, because they wanted him to be that way and it was brilliant👍🏽

Rancegamerx206d ago

I agree, I liked Max, Chloe was a horrible friend and a bad influence.

Cacabunga206d ago

Everyone agrees on chloe, I’m sure even ND do.

H9206d ago

Both are horrible, granted Chloe is infinitely worse, it feels like Chloe is just fanservice for people who too over the edge and wasn't written to be a character that makes sense

GooGobbler207d ago

What about that Forspoken Tw*t

MrChow666206d ago

exactly I was expecting it to be a the top of the list

ravens52206d ago

Ye I was expecting her too. Guess they actually played the game. Unlike you and whoever agrees.

gpimlott205d ago

I played through the whole game and think she is one of the worst character Ive ever played as

ravens52205d ago (Edited 205d ago )

gpimlott. How?

Stanjara196d ago

Why would I payed and played the game if the whole internet is making fun of a character?

-Im here to kill Chaos...are you Chaos?

Yeah, I didn't play that game either.

Christopher206d ago (Edited 206d ago )

She's actually not bad. It's the writing itself that is bad overall, but she's fine overall. She's no worse than Miles Morales IMHO. Both thrust into a spotlight and receiving both praise and blame and dealing with it.

Forspoken is a bland game because it's 75% bland, boring, repetitive going through the motions and diversions that add nothing of the value with purposefully gated memory moments that don't feel organic or like you're discovering things but waiting for others to reveal things.

ravens52206d ago

Exactly Chris. Even though I liked the game. I kno u played it. People who actually played it and went thru her dream saw she was a good likeable person who really just acted out due to being alone and unloved. I think your problem is it was open world, I think if it was more linear you may have liked it better.

savedsynner206d ago

Oh no she's bad. Very unlikable even before you add on the bad dialogue. The game could have been quite good with a good protagonist

ravens52206d ago

For all the people like synner. Shes actually half white lol. Inferior complexity is a hell of a thing. You'll be ok.

Nerdmaster207d ago

Most of these aren't even that bad. Especially comparing to others like Squall "Whatever" Leonhart, Forspoken's Frey, and the guy from Atomic Heart.

-Foxtrot206d ago

Squall is one of the best developed main FF characters so...

People talk about his "whatever" thing thats at the start of the game, not the character he eventually becomes in the end.

Nerdmaster206d ago

No amount of "character development", (especially the ones that for me feels sudden and undeserved like Squall's), will justify him being a d**k to my girl Quistis. Even if he found the cure for cancer, from that moment on, I would never like him.
The article is about being unlikeable, and he was indeed unlikeable for at least half of the game.

BrainSyphoned206d ago

Squall is the best protagonists in FF so you can go whatever yourself.

H9206d ago

My good sir, I need to steal that "you can go whatever yourself" because it's gold

BlaqMagiq1206d ago

Except Squall has actual character development.

gold_drake206d ago (Edited 206d ago )

the "watever" is only present in the english localisation.
so your argument doesnt rly ... stand imo.

Nerdmaster206d ago

Good for you that you could enjoy the japanese version. That's not the case for me and the majority of people here, though.

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gold_drake207d ago (Edited 207d ago )

i had to stop reading after the "blatant misogyny" in the Dantes inferno section.

i actually liked Max haha.

the forspoken chick is missing tho

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