Game censors make a bold claim about the ability of gamers to separate what goes on their television screen and reality.
I thought that's what they said about attorney generals.
and 48 out of a 100 statistics are made up on the spot... his actual claim basically says 1-2% of gamers will commit horrible acts of violence because of video games.
oh just STFU! If he said this regarding pot heads, sure I'll beleive that... But gamers?!?! come on?!...
I'd actually say that about 90% of people can't tell fantasy from reality. =/ But I find it unlikely they'll accept the fact that supernatural stuff isn't real.
Did you make that up?
I wish all of these people would just accept the fact that some people are smart and some people are dumb! It is irritating that they always try to place a label and cause for why things happen. Crazy stuff has happened since the dawn of man. No matter how much we would like to believe we are civilized... we are only that way because we were trained to be that way! In all of our hearts lies an animal. Provided the right situation, that beast will come out! What videogame was Adolf Hitler playing? What rock n roll music was he listening to? This is all BS! Don't believe me? If someone was trying to hurt someone very close to you, would you roll over and let them, or would you try to kick the s... out of them? I know some of you will probably say roll over, but then again, you are probably the type who doesn't stand up for yourself in the first place. When you have kids, you will understand what I mean!
How about those who can't tell reality from fantasy are more than likely on drugs? [and the 1 disagree that I currently have is from a person on drugs! Lay off the crack pipe!]
my principle told me the same thing when i slayed this ogre that was giving out knives to 29 other mini-ogres. he told me that the ogre was my teacher and that the mini ogres were my other classmates and the knives were pencils. HA! seems to me like HE was the misinterpreted one....
1 out of every 1 Attorney General likes to pull craptastic statistics out of his arse.
Congratulation Sir, you rise the bar on stupidity This by far is the most stupid comment in the Year, poor soul I don't why but a huge amount of Dinosaurs tend to think that way, they have a Shield-mind closed to anything new, they can't understand that gaming is a way of entertainment like black and white TVs were in the Mesozoic Era XD
I'm going to PWN him with mah lvl 70! "This is a question of a small number of very zealous gamers trying to impose their will on society, and I think harm society" We should show up at his front door in game T-shirts. I'll bet he would crap his pants and maybe run inside and shoot himself, fearing the worst.
1-2 sounds pretty normal.
He censors adults right to enjoy mature content such as violence and sex. He can't trust adults to think for themselves and thinks that he needs to control what they can play.
I have no respect or patience for these white, old fart bureaucrats of Washington that have never even picked up a video game let alone play it but still pass judgement as if they know what they are talking about. 1-2 of every gamer can't tell fantasy from reality? Well seeing as many of hour highly esteemed senators and lawmakers don't believe in evolution or thinking outside their tiny box, then 35-50 out of every 100 Washington bureaucrats can't tell fantasy from reality. Video gamers win, Washington old farts lose.
Good thing no one knew about the Javelin glitch back then. >_< Btw, this guy made me forget that other dude's name... I know his initials were JT.
Omg! Not true! Im gonna kill him and all his famlily for lying! And then Im going to run over some hookers, jump on a few mushroom people and pee on dogs on my way home! Then Im gonna go and drink some old unflushed raidiated toliet water, yum. ...
This guy clearly has never touched a game in his life and never will. I can't wait till these old f*cks die off. That's a HUGE claim to make. Fantasy from reality? Really? That's like 1-2 people out of every 100 million. Ridiculous claim. People who know nothing about a subject should have no right to say anything about it. Sadly, they do, and because they have such a high and mighty authority, their word is taken as gospel by similar clueless morons.
Don't worry, their time is receding. In 30 years it will be hard for anyone to say that they haven't played a game sometime in their life.
No, it's not really that low of a statistic. You have to understand there are hundreds of millions of people out there who believe in extraterrestrials, Global Warming, all animals need ethical treatment, that Iraq still has WMDs, that the world is going to suddenly blow up in 2012, and that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and not as a naturally influential "human being". And the list goes on... and on... So, yes. 1 or 2 in 100 is actually a very accurate number, in terms of the world population.
ChrisW ... Half the things you list have evidence for them or are ethically/morally right, Global Warming is an issue, man-made or not, animals should be treated well, we also need them to survive (PETA are nuts, but beating a dog isn't right is it? Don't need lunatics like PETA who burn down labs to know that), Iraq may have tried to acquire WMDs, but more likely there ARE other nations who are moving forward to and it is also a serious issue. I wish I could say Religion wasn't serious, but it's one of the biggest threats to humanity on the planet. I hope you yourself can tell the difference between fiction and reality. You easily lumped legitimate real causes for concern in with BS like alien visitors and 2012. Not everything is a conspiracy. Believing that is something only wack jobs do.
didnt know Patcher's brother was into politics
Believing is all there is. How was anything ever proven without first BELIEVING it could be proven. And what good is proof if nobody BELIEVES it. When has any conscious ever performed anything without BELIEVING? A belief may torn out to be false, but everyone believes in something.
Not everything relies on belief for it to be true. Many people believed the world was flat, until it was proved otherwise. We know there is gravity and can see all of it's effects, yet what exactly causes it is unknown, yet gravity isn't a belief, it's a fact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Science is founded on disproving theories, not coming up with far fetched ideas and trying to prove them, otherwise you'd have people trying to prove they can fly by jumping off of buildings and crossing their fingers. A scientific hypothesis or belief and a supposed or un-informed belief are very different things as one is subjecting itself to questioning and scrutiny and the other is propping itself up with often nothing more than a gut feeling. Saying: I believe the evidence for global warming makes a good case. Isn't quite the same as saying: I believe my first cat who passed away is doing quite well in kitty-heaven. There is a very distinct line between something that is believed based on evidence and a belief based on a lack of evidence. "And what good is proof if nobody BELIEVES it. " BTW If there is empirical, testable and observable evidence for something aka: "proof", it has to be accepted by science until it can be proved otherwise. It's not a question of preference.
I'm only contending your comment that "believing that is something only wack jobs do." All I'm saying is the knowledge of man quickly runs out and we soon enter into the realm of belief. Like the child constantly asking why. How do you know? How do you know that you know? How do you know that you know that you know? You soon have nothing but belief. How many scientists claim "energy cannot be created or destroyed." Then laugh at a believer in God. Then claim that all time, space, matter, and energy spawned from nothing in a "Big Bang." We should all understand there are ideas, and beliefs, and remember that our own beliefs may not always turn out to be correct, and we should respect the beliefs of others especially when we have no evidence to the contrary. A person believes in God. You have no evidence to the contrary. Why not show some respect? And they should respect your belief, whatever it may be.
No, Proxy, you soon only have chaos. Didn't you listen to Kratos? But seriously, about the actual story, I'm wondering about the news report- he "cited" that statistic. Was that from research? Why can't they tell that part of the story?
I'm not sure I get your meaning. But I'll just say, in order for anybody to believe that everything is a conspiracy, such as global warming, 911, 2012, etc, They could only do so with a lack of evidence. (or in the case of treating animals kindly, a lack of knowing what is ethical). The problem is we have now, is that legitimate issues are getting muddled up with fiction. By having actual issues like 911, which was a terrible religiously motivated attack turned into some silly conspiracy, it takes the focus off of the issue at the heart of it. Fanatical religion caused the attacks, not some "inside-job". Same for global warming, it's an absolutely relevant issue, and we need to start telling our politicians we want them to reduce emissions, and make us more eco-friendly cars (and make them not cost an arm and a leg...also think of a less annoying term than eco-friendly or green) Whether or not global warming is man-made, it does seem it's happening and I think were better off playing "better safe than sorry" with this one. People who like to come up with silly notions which have poor evidence (or in most cases none, or straight up lies) can go on and create as many conspiracy theories as they like about UFOs and Mayan calendars and ghosts, I could care less. But leave the real (factual, evident, verifiable) issues out of it. Truth be told, I've subjected myself to too many hours disproving conspiracy theories. As most don't even merit anybody's time. But for some reason I am still compelled to. If my one comment can shed some common sense on an issue for one person than at least I feel a little better. "How do you know? How do you know that you know? How do you know that you know that you know? " I think I'd see that as a great time to teach the notion of critical thinking as that is exactly what a child asking those questions is doing!. They are being critical. And I'm happy to say I'd sit there all day and answer their questions. And maybe hand them over a few science books ;) If a child can make you that unfounded in your own beliefs or assertion that you know what you know, maybe you have your own doubts? I base my beliefs in things that are quite easily proved, so for me it's easy to show children "why" I think it's true, but for people who have no REAL evidence for why the believe things I guess I could see why that question would seem loaded. "How many scientists claim "energy cannot be created or destroyed." Then laugh at a believer in God. Then claim that all time, space, matter, and energy spawned from nothing in a "Big Bang."" Interesting story about that.. they are still laughing (as am I), and it has to do with dark matter and dark energy. Watch and enjoy this mind bender, 'A Universe From Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss, AAI 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watc... "A person believes in God. You have no evidence to the contrary." You cannot disprove a negative. It's like me claiming that there are invisible elves making the earth rotate...prove me wrong.
@Great Melon: Totally true, these technophobes are just afraid of the future and there inability to adapt with the changing times.
PeTA, I find the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals to be a terrorist supporting organization, if not terrorists themselves. In reference to what I stated, "All Animals" I was mostly referring to livestock which is a main part of all countries staple diet. And it isn't the mistreatment of them, it's the "slaughtering for food" part that I disagree with PeTA on. In other words: it's not okay to beat a cow, but it's okay to kill it for food. And as for Global Warming... I believe that it's a worthy cause to advocate for stricter anti-pollution regulations world-wide. For example, China, which is currently the world's largest emitter of CO2. However the US no better. The US produces only approximately 10% less than China does. In addition, better measures need to be taken to reduce and ultimately prevent illegal toxic waste dumping. But is all of this contributing to Global Warming? Not directly... or to the extent most people would want us to believe. Earth has gone through numerous warm and cold cycles over thousands of years, which is a fact many believe... unless they are ones to believe the world was created in 7-days and only a couple thousand years ago. Basically, I believe that Earth is a heck of a lot more resilient than Global Warming Doomsday Sayers are giving it credit. BUT regardless of its resilience, we still need to reduce pollution to keep plants and animals from becoming endangered and to [more importantly] keep our planet clean. As for all of the other conspiracies, what-nots, and in addition to the aforementioned, I will end with this: Lawrence Krauss, "What you take from it depends on your metaphysical and religious beliefs..." Meaning there's always someone who will agree with you. Someone who simply has different points of view. And someone who, regardless if there is empirical, testable and observable evidence for something aka: "proof", will subject it to nihilism.
100/100 people can't tell the difference between the attorney general and someone who needs to look at the real world and do some research on the subject in hand before shouting their load, hate spewing mouths. I am sick and tired of people focusing on the bad in gaming and not the facts, gamers are intelligent well manored people that deserve far more respect than society grants them.
Have 1-2 out of 100 politicians played enough videogames to get anywhere close to making an informed statement on the matter? Anyway, I think at least 1-2 out of 100 of the population have done REALLY stupid things anyway so why concentrate on videogames in that respect?
Bubbles to you!!
In other news, 9 times out of 10, an old man will take a pop at the video game industry.
so long as they dont act on it.
this guy is acting on it. he's the reason there's no R18+ rating on games in Australia which means games get effectively banned- Left 4 Dead 2, Aliens vs Predator etc. are all banned from sale in Aus.
if the AG really made such a preposterous statement?.......then, he's a fool.
I hate politics they get in the way of everything I love.
92.623% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
I beat you to that joke :D (1.1)
can't even remember where he placed his car keys.
"Where's my car keys? Wait, I don't even own a car." "Where's my car? Oh, yeah. I lost the keys" etc
Studies also show that 1 out of 2 gamers cant tell Uncharted 2 from a movie.
It would have been better to say MGS4. You know, 45 minute cutscenes and so on. But DAMN! That was a good movie... I mean game!
I guess you haven't gotten out from under your rock to see the commercial I was in with uncharted 2:among thieves. But I wont make fun of you. Are you sad that a "movie" outscored all of your games and became 2008 goty? BOOM
and we vote this ppl into office
It's true though, my RL avatar has a green mohawk, chiseled abs, rogue armor, +60 sniping, +30 spell casting and a satchel to hold on my loot... Every morning I steal a new car, deliver a few packages of magic drugs, grab a cup of coffee, and kill 3 hookers. Around 10am, I clock in at Burn Baby Ind. We specialize in fire casting and shielding technology. Currently we're developing a flame retardant car that also happens to be ON fire... For lunch, I kill a dragon with my bare hands, because it gets me more XP that way, then I wolf it down with some A1 steak sauce, which also happens to be currency. I go back to work then immediately leave on a business trip to the woodlands plains of More-Doors. Wood is gathered, villages are pillaged and women are raped. Holy **** I forgot the mob boss of Crimetopia wants Jun Kim Do Nutting dead! I fly into Vegas on my mount... an F117 Nighthawk, I park on LV Boulevard and use my jetpack to get a good vantage point atop the MGM hotel. Pow! Headshot. Mission complete. +200 XP +$4000 +Jun Kim Do Nutting Safehouse Man my life is hard...
*standing ovation*, that was epic
That was just an awesome story...Bubble up!
Attorney General can kiss my ass
I hope he dies and doesnt re-spawn
And that's probably a fairly accurate statement. I have a bachelors degree in History and I can safely say most people I see in Gamestop are living in fantasy land and should not be legally allowed to pro create. I have some loser friends that do nothing except game 24/7. I love gaming, but responsibilities come first.
People who hear voices in their heads and talk to make-believe beings probably shouldn't procreate either eh. And I do think that the 1-2 % figure sounds somewhat correct, but I don't think Michael Atkinson himself understands that it's not a complete detachment from reality but rather the way in which the brain reacts in some people when engaging in certain tasks, real or virtual.
there's a difference between gaming addiction and what this guy is claiming.
Bachelor's degree in history, huh? What kind of job does that get you?
and 99% of all attorney's are in it and will say anything For money
He's not a lawyer- he's the Attorney General of South Australia- AKA the guy responsible for that State's policies regarding 'law and order' issues- one of which is censorship. He's a politician which means he's either in it for his ego or he wants to make a difference... I'm tipping ego with him. South Australia is an insignificant State in Australia, nobody cares about it- it's capital is the most boring, dull, small 'city' in Australia bar Canberra. Being a politician in South Australia is probably more insignificant in Australian politics than being a local councillor in any other State. This whole game rating debate is the most press this guy has ever gotten. Nobody would know who he is otherwise, so he just relishes the challenge and media coverage (albeit the little that it gets).
Well obviously if those 1-2% are include children. I mean i have teach some 3rd graders once and they all believe that video game stories are real. Seriously i'm not kidding they all thought that somewhere out there is a green suited one man army killing aliens.
He says that it's a 'small vested interest' trying to impose its will on the wider population. 4 of the 5 State Attorneys General all support the introduction of an R18+ rating for games. He is the only one that does not, which is a block to the whole process (all 5 need to agree in order for the law to change).
I'm sorry, but I can't put any faith into a man who's view on current entertainment is hindered by the fact that he grew up pushing a hoop with a stick. With a stick! A STICK!
It'd be helpful if you could remind me which Movie that dialogue was in.. Because its damn funny..
Title should read: Attorney General Claims 1-2 of Every 100 People Can't Tell Fantasy from Reality, and the Australian people keep electing them. I can so totally see one in every hundred gamers turning off AVP and being all like "WHOA I have to go kill people now because they all look 12 feet tall,have bullet proof skin and acid for blood!" Can't wait for the news article "SA Attourney General killed with chainsaw after being 'mistaken' for a zombie"
well I'm pretty sure the delusional 1 percent isn't able to use invisibility and laser beam aliens when they go outside. I guess the crazy Australians will have to settle for petting skulls. Oh the horror of it!
i wonder how the gaming corporations will respond to this!
NINJA ASSASINS PLEASE
The new PS3 ads poke fun at the old "push hoop with a stick" game. The SONY guy is making fun of a kids gramma. It's funny.
What where am I !?!?!?! Is this Hades I see many trolls. I must take vengeance on the Gods. Do you hear me Zeus I Kratos will have my revenge. Mt. Olympus will fall to my blades!!!!!!!!!!!!.......!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait ok I'm in the real world again. No but this world kinda seems like grand theft auto 4. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
thats a possible 1 person here....O.o? Is this playstation Home? o.o
1 or 2%. Who gives a F*&k. Probably 80% of smokers will die of some form of cancer. Wheres the governments social outrage on that issue. Oh, thats right, they get billions of dollars a year in taxes to look the other way. He talks about gamers are minorities and then babbles on about 1 or 2%. He talks about a minority impossing its will on others while he, a minority of one does exactly that. Does anyone else see a fundemental flaw in this argument.
Who does that giant panda think he is telling me I'm delusional. I have half a mind to take away his bamboo supply.