AnalogHype: With Left 4 Dead 2 breaking top 10 sales in Japan, is the console finally succeeding?
Being #6 in the top ten list does not mean that it's popular. Besides that this is actually doing the 360 a disservice. 360 games have been in the top 10 before.
this must be a joke.one game in top 10 and that means that x360 is accepted in japan?
I guess that's why it was a question, not a statement.
Well, it's a really stupid question to say the least. The 360 is being outsold by nearly 100K every month and the sales are virtually non-existent. For 360 to be 'Accepted' in Japan, either the PS3 and Wii have to stop selling or else M$ should bag in a FF title exclusive (either of the 2 happening has a probability approaching ZERO). As for L4D2, frankly I am surprised. Rarely have I seen a 360 game beside a RPG feature in the top 10 list. Probably bought by the American living there cause Japan does give a F about FPSes
1) It was one of three new games. 2) It sold 28,000 in its first week. Where exactly does that info point towards the 360 being accepted as a viable videogames console in Japan?
NATAL will save japan
If by accepted he means selling on par with wii or ps3 in Japan, then the answer is NO. If by accepted he means continuing to grow and having a few good weeks every once in awhile in a territory that is very loyal to homegrown gaming, then the answer is YES. Oh wait a minute, 360 was pronounced DEAD along time ago so how is this news possible, microsoft must have paid them off.
No it's just that half of those 1 million 360 owners, are probably non Japanese natives (Former Americans that moved to Japan, etc...) so they picked the game up. Not to mention that the games it did beat have been on the list for 2 or more weeks (with the exception of Mario and Sonic which sucks on Wii and even more on DS). Don't make it into anything bigger than that, because it's not. The 360 is still in the same place it's always been in Japan.
you guys really failed to see that an american game breaking top 10 in Japan is an accomplishment in itself no matter what console it's on. It really shouldn't be titled "Has the 360 in Japan Finally Been Accepted" but "Left 4 Dead Is proof that the times are changing in Japan." This goes hand in hand with what those Japanese developers have been saying in that Japanese game development is at a standstill and have been overtaken by Western developers.
Are you insane? You can't put an article to make people discuss like human beings here! Did you forgot that we have trolls and fanboys here?
there's been over a million 360 sold to date in Japan, so for once in a while if there's one game entered the top 10, it's not even worth a news article!
Ridiculous. This isn't the first game on the 360 to be in the top 10 and did any of those past titles save it? No. And Hisiru, for an article to be discussed like human beings it requires the piece contain, at the very least, a modicum of common sense. This one is utter balderdash and deserves ever ounce the derision with which it has been greeted.
I mean, many western games are starting to sell at a decent clip like CoD, GeoW, Halo and now L4D.
Answer to stupid question: NO
About LFD2, JAPAN love Zombie related games and everything that have some Survival Horror Elements, don't forget that one of the most RECOGNIZED franchises is Resident Evil About M$ in Japan: Well, we can say that in some way M$ played a good card with those "BETAs JRPGs" in Japan, imagine what could happen if they didn't put anything that Japan can appreciate And then Fanboys say JAPAN doesn't mean anything, GOD! they can't be more blind
Do we mean total sales or only across the 360 (remember that L4D2 is on the PC, too)? I don't really want to give this site the hit it doesn't deserve, so can someone tell me this?
It seems that morganfell is the only person actually talking sense in this thread. This article is stupid and irrelevant simple because there have been other Xbox 360 exclusives that have broken into the top 10 in Japan. Forza 3 is a recent example which sold I think ~70k in its first week, and I'm pretty sure Halo 3 and Gears did decent numbers during the first week. This doesn't really mean much for Xbox 360 being accepted.
360 games are in the bargain bin in JP.
What kind of stupid question is this?
This is retarded...
Not a chance.
28000 = success for the 360 in Japan? Contrast and compare once FF13 is out.
LOL Bungie. That made my day.
Regardless if a question or a statement, The 360 is an american piece of hardware and if were to be sold at half the price it is now being sold in japan it still would not sell
I bet most of those were bought by soldiers stationed at the the US base there.
Those guys are likely buying it from the Military PX/Exchange. I doubt those sales are being calculated into this.
You mean marines? There are very few soldiers in japan.
Well considering it's selling 3k a week on average across the entire country, I'd say no. It's fighting with the PS2 over there.
Fighting between the PS2 and PSPgo you mean. Sandwiched between them actually.
It's not the first time a game is on the top10, for example Tales of Vesperia and the other ones, they didn't sell bad.
tales of vesperia 360: 60 k ps3: 150 k 360 sells around 3.k in the week in japan ( lol) ninja blade: around 20 k in the japan around 1.0 m sells 360rrod in japan ps3: 5.0 m ---------------------------- yep. 360 finaly is accepted..
I think the 360 is on the ropes world wide at this point. Where else has it got to go but down? M$ has price cut the hell out of the system way too early from a sense of pure desperation, and now they can't really play even that card anymore. They've price cutted the thing so much that they are actually STILL losing money on the stem sold. They haven't got any system selling exclusives, and the brand is in tatters thanks to the RRoD debacle
Dead in Japan and always will be.
Yes, Project Natal could be the breakthrough that Microsoft wanted in Japan. But most likely, it won't be. It'll make a splash, but a temporary one. A natal-embedded Killer Instinct will be MASSIVE, but it'll be short-lived. Japan has turned their sites onto the handheld market over the last two years, and home consoles like the Sony PS3 and Nintendo Wii are left picking up the scraps. Japanese Developers are even frightful of what's been happening with Japanese Game Development over the last five years. It's getting scary. Japanese games are usually at the pinnacle of popularity, and the West seems to be taking over the genre. So NO... Microsoft has not been accepted in Japan. And it never will be. To use my own words.... XBOX360... In Japan... NO. ONE. CARES. :-)
^^ thats the only thing you had to say. XBOX 360 isnt even in the japs vocab lol
ahaaaaaaaaa!!! you are BLADESTAR!!! you pathetic id!0t!
look at all those sony trolls tracking u just to hit disagree. if they'd actually even read your comment they might have realised it wasn't anti-PS3. shameful. notice how this never happens the other way around? proof that n4g sony trolls are some of the worst scum EVER.
The headline should read - 'Clutching at straws again.'
"tales of vesperia 360: 60 k ps3: 150 k " lol you owned yourself hard with that comment. PS3 = 4 time sbigger in Japan and it sold only double the amount! Semms like the japanese also buy the PS3 only for watching movies.
And how much are PS3s compared to games in Japan? Yeah, you're not a complete moron.
so when ps3 games outsell 360 in america i guess thats really bad for MS since they have an install base of about 5-6 mil more right?
And where did you get your 5 Million PS3s in japan from?? LINK of i dont believe it.. according to VGC its at 3.92 Million. So show me a more accurate site where you got your 5 Million from. You sound a little bit desperate.
"according to vg charts", vg charts is full of fail you noob, they cant get ps3 hardware numbers right or high profile ps3 games such as gt5p and mgs4, yet they over track 360 hardware and software numbers.
I wouldnt say its a sign the 360 is going to thrive in Japan. Unless the Japanese just go ape over Natal, MS will continue to have a tough go over there. But considering how poorly the 360 sells in Japan,making their top 10 list in game sales is impressive IMO.
rely no natal will save japan no it will not you still need the 360 to use it and we have seen ms is incapable of fixing the 360 so that like putting a new hat on a dead guy it helps nothing the only thing that can help the 360 in jp is reliability that not going to happen
Heck no. Xbox is Xbox.
Console sales haven't gone over 5K in the past 4-6 months, so I have to say no. All that L4D being in the top 10 says is that it could have sold more on the PS3.
almost any article that is written and posted on N4G these days has a comment section filled with the same old vitriol toward the 360. I will never understand people loving one product while deriding the competition. MS has to be happy with any sales in Japan, since the Japanese obviously have more nationalistic pride in their companies than say all you MS hating Americans I share a country with. The fact that a FPS even managed to chart amazes me due to the historic issues many Japanese have had with motion sickness while playing FPS's. Maybe its more akin to what my 18 year old son said "Dad, everyone loves Zombies except you", and maybe that include ex-pats and some open-minded Japanese.
Dude they only hate the xbox becuase it broke on them. Some gamers failed to remeber that the ps1 And2 did the same things. Yet all is forgiven now that the ps3 has not broken yet xxfinger crossedxx. So they like most hd gamers owned two systems so buying another does not make sense when ms does really make new games any way .
yep the ps1 and ps2 did have a failure rate but it was no where near as high as the 360 which in case you didn't know has the highest electronic failure rate in history, yes the 360 is the most defective console in gaming history, so i really don't know why people cling on to the ps1-ps2
no its not because there have been other games that broke into the top 10 and the console dies right after.
LOL... man that was awesome!!!
How was that 'awesome'. It wasn't even remotely funny. Your sense of humor fails.
ok, then give me real numbers.
Nothing to see here folks, but a huge helping of delusion. :)
xbox is already dead in japan... itll never be accepted. FF13 decide
360 had games in the top ten before... Problem is that they're not even in the top 50 the following week.
nope its still dead! lo-mo
360 titles top the Japanese top 10 all the time. One more game doing doesn't mean the 360's fate in Japan will change. Now if there were 5 360 titles in the top 10 in one month, then I'd take notice.
This is not fanboy talk....it's about loyalty. Sony is Japan, so the 360 really never had a fighting chance. The only reason they sell from time to time....is because the PS3 is always out of stock over there.
YOu seems to forget that ps3 is a more attractive machine, has better games since two years, and a better reliability (important for japanese) After that, it's a japanese product.
The things people DO for hits...... -End Statement
just a plain stupid article who cares if japs want 360 or not.
I agree. The 360 is a success with or without Japan. The 360 is neck and neck with the PS3 in Europe and the US now, the PS3 is bigger in Japan, is it really a surprise that the 360 isn't? Not to mention, the PS3 gets more games over there than it does in Europe or the US, just like the PS2 and Playstation before it. Its a no-brainer as to why the Japanese favor the PS3 the most. On a more relevant note, I just purchased a PS3 Slim earlier this week and have been playing Uncharted 2, definitely a great game yet even moreso to me, a great movie. Its the type of game that I personally enjoy watching other people play. Some things irk me about the PS3 though, like madatory installs and constant software updates and long-ass load times. Like, when downloading from PSN, it downloads the file than installs it whereas on XBL it downloads and installs at the same time. I like the system and can't wait to get into some Demon Souls but I just thought I'd share some of my personal experiences with you all. Game on!
The only software updates I ever download and install are firmware updates, which are far from constant or game patches, which are also hardly considered constant nor are they anything to do with the PS3 itself. The same can be said of some games requiring mandatory installs. I understand these things can be a little anooying, bvelieve me I feel the same but you make it sound like it's the platform's fault.
Well O suppose its just the fact that it is a new system but I just recently purchased Bioshock, and it immediately had to download and install a patch than the game begins to load and I have to wait for a 5 gig install of the game for 15minutes, which is just crazy. Also I downloaded the Battlefield 1943 demo and started to play it and I have played the Xbox 360 version before, I am running in HD 1080p, with optical audio and there are jaggies everywhere! No anti-aliasing. Same with Bioshock, some textures are in higher resolution compared the the 360 version yet there are jaggies on everything, which is kinda disappointing, seeing as how the PS3 version of Bioshock was released a year after the 360/PC versions. I am of the opinion that gfx aren't everything but with the 'power of the PS3' I was hoping to see better clarity with the PS3 version of the game, o well. The 360 version had better water effects and better color. So I guess this is where people start blaming devs yet as I understand the 360 has anti-aliasing built-in to the hardware whereas the PS3 doesn't and if devs use it the game takes a performance hit. Uncharted 2 looks amazingly great, because its an exclusive no doubt, yet now I can understand why people want to play multiplatform titles on their 360's mainly because of the anti-aliasing I would imagine. With Uncharted 2 if its installed on the HDD why doesn't it load faster? There's a good 2 minute load sequence when you first start the game where the septer is spinning round and round in the bottom right-hand corner, same with initiating online matches yet I must say that the matches run buttery smooth thanks to dedicated servers. There is an amazing amount of mental clarity when you have both systems and reflect on the differences between both. I still like the PS3 a lot but I just have to get used to these minor annoyances since I have had quite a bit of experience with the 360. Downloading system updates and software patches from XBL is done in a snap whereas with the PS3 thru its mandatory installs, downloading than installing processes will require a bit more patience from me to get used to. Its all good, I'm just happy I have both now, gonna get into Demon Souls, Infamous and future releases next year.
this article says WHAT?!